[03:49] <nigelb> AlanBell: doctormo has a way with words :)
[06:22] <dholbach> good morning
[06:22] <nigelb> dholbach: morning! I've poked the LP folks about a session
[06:23] <nigelb> when you come in, my irssi lights up like a christmas tree :p
[06:23] <nigelb> all the good morning in many channels
[06:23] <dholbach> nigelb, I saw it - I hope we can get the schedule finished up RSN
[06:24] <nigelb> lifeless said its a good idea, I'm just waiting for uk to wake up so I can poke jml and ask him if he's interested
[06:25] <dholbach> excellent :)
[06:25] <dholbach> thanks
[06:31] <dholbach> nigelb, what is the pollka session about?
[06:31] <nigelb> dholbach: elky and I still haven't decided what to say, but something about development with php
[06:32] <dholbach> ah ok
[06:32] <dholbach> thanks
[06:32] <nigelb> dholbach: pollka.net
[07:40] <dholbach> hola ara
[07:40] <ara> morning dholbach, all!
[07:41] <nigelb> morning ara :)
[07:44] <dholbach> query ara
[07:45] <ara> sorry?
[07:45] <dholbach> forgot a / :-P
[07:55] <dholbach> hola dpm
[07:55]  * nigelb waves to dpm 
[07:56] <dpm> hola dholbach, hola nigelb!
[07:56] <dpm> good morning everyone!
[09:19] <czajkowski> aloha
[09:19] <dholbach> hola czajkowski
[09:25] <czajkowski> dholbach: last day eh ;)(
[09:26] <dholbach> :-D
[09:27] <czajkowski> dholbach: bags packed and at the door already
[09:28] <dholbach> czajkowski, not quiet, but at least at my parents' place now, where I'll leave the dog
[09:28] <dholbach> still a bunch of things to do and finish before my dad will take me to the airport tonight :)
[09:29] <czajkowski> great
[09:29] <czajkowski> murphy staying there
[09:30] <dholbach> yep
[09:36] <czajkowski> dholbach: can you poke or leave a comment on https://rt.ubuntu.com//Ticket/Display.html?id=14129 before you go ?
[09:36] <czajkowski> PLease
[09:40] <czajkowski> dholbach: congrats 5 years Canonical :)
[09:47]  * czajkowski hugs dholbach thank you
[09:48]  * dholbach hugs czajkowski back
[09:48] <dholbach> de rien
[10:02] <matti> Hey folks.
[10:34] <G> dholbach: wow, congrats on the 5 years
[10:34] <dholbach> G: gracias
[11:01] <AlanBell> so on wiki.ubuntu.com there is a new theme called "light"
[11:01] <AlanBell> how do we file bugs against it?
[11:02] <AlanBell> and can we contribute to the code somewhere, is it on launchpad?
[11:06] <czajkowski> a lot of the images that worked under Ubuntu theme don't work under light  :(
[11:14]  * popey hugs dholbach 
[11:15] <popey> AlanBell: file against ubuntu-website I would imagine
[11:15] <popey> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website/+bugs
[11:15] <popey> others have done already, e.g. 632179
[11:20]  * dholbach hugs popey back
[11:56] <AlanBell> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website/+bugs?field.tag=light-wiki they appear to be assigned to /dev/null
[12:41] <czajkowski> does anyone remember where the 10.10.10 reference to H2G2 was on a blog post or a wiki ??
[12:44] <nhandler> czajkowski: It comes up in this thread https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-marketing/2010-May/003987.html
[12:45] <czajkowski> nhandler: thanks
[13:42] <akgraner> dholbach, congrats!  maybe Canonical should have a wall of acrylic circles of friends with your name and 5 year anniversary etc like Red Hat has the wall of hockey pucks...
[13:42] <dholbach> akgraner, I have holidays - that's like a big celebration to me :)
[13:57] <Pendulum> dholbach: congrats on 5 years! and holidays are a good way to celebrate ;-)
[13:59] <dholbach> Pendulum, right you are :-D
[13:59] <dholbach> thanks for the flowers :)
[14:27] <doctormo> Morning all
[14:27] <Pendulum> morning doctormo
[14:27] <doctormo> Hey Pendulum :-) everythng well
[14:28] <Pendulum> yeah, things are pretty well
[14:28] <Pendulum> how're you?
[14:30] <doctormo> Pendulum: Looking after a friend's 5 year old
[14:31] <Pendulum> doctormo: aww. cute kid?
[14:31] <doctormo> hyper at that age
[14:31] <Pendulum> heh
[15:06] <dpm> have I ever said our translations community is awesome? I send an e-mail to translate a wiki page - 10 min later I see the first edits on the page
[15:06] <dpm> go translators! :)
[15:06] <czajkowski> yes to be fair they are pretty damn good alright
[15:08] <dpm> :-)
[15:16] <nigelb> hrm, anyone seen jono around lately?
[15:17] <kim0> nigelb: he's on a vacation this week
[15:17]  * nigelb shudders
[15:17] <nigelb> there goes kernal triage
[15:17] <nigelb> wanted to get it on the .lernid file on his server :(
[15:19] <pleia2> nigelb: doh, no redirect installed?
[15:19] <nigelb> pleia2: nope :(
[15:20] <nigelb> pleia2: I mailed him too!
[15:20] <pleia2> :\
[15:20] <nigelb> He must've been busy :(
[15:26] <nigelb> doctormo: lol, having a good time? ;)
[15:30] <nigelb> dholbach: train to Tehran? WOW
[15:31] <nigelb> I'm so jealous about a 3-day train trip more than anything!
[15:34] <dholbach> nigelb, to Tabriz but yeah :-)
[15:35] <nigelb> :)
[15:37] <czajkowski> so no jono this week ?
[15:45] <nigelb> wow, the video of the train trip is interesting :)
[15:45] <jcastro> he's on holiday
[15:45] <jcastro> hi everyone!
[15:46] <nigelb> welcome back jcastro
[15:46] <nigelb> jcastro: what is this: all the community team on vacation one-by-one ;)
[15:46] <jcastro> I had no idea, lolz
[15:47] <czajkowski> jcastro: welcome back
[15:47] <czajkowski> tis tag team holiday in here
[15:48] <jcastro> thanks!
[15:48] <jcastro> dholbach: I have a wi to invite upstreams to app developer week
[15:48] <jcastro> er, opp dev week
[15:48] <jcastro> which one is it again?
[15:48] <dholbach> jcastro, app dev
[15:49] <nigelb> app dev :)
[15:49] <dholbach> jcastro, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuAppDeveloperWeek/Timetable
[15:49] <dholbach> 4 slots left
[15:49] <nigelb> jcastro: I'm looking for somone on LP to talk about how LP is awesome for app dev, any possible candidate you can recommend?
[15:50] <jcastro> rockstar's always good
[15:50] <jcastro> also, bueno owes us from the last week
[15:50] <nigelb> wait, your doing it :)
[15:50] <jcastro> so feel free to blackmail him
[15:50] <nigelb> building our package daily?
[15:50] <nigelb> I'm also trying to get jml, he too owes us from dev week
[15:50] <jcastro> Oh, I was doing that
[15:50]  * nigelb hugs jcastro 
[15:51] <jcastro> we need a telepathy guy
[15:51] <jcastro> I will go hunting
[15:51] <nigelb> \o/
[15:51] <jcastro> what other upstreams would we want in on this?
[15:51] <nigelb> wasn't there a ruby talk scheduled?
[15:52] <nigelb> JFo: you do know you scheduled triage summit on the weekend of OLF? ;)
[15:53] <nigelb> jcastro: do you have access to jono's server (by any chance)?
[15:53] <jcastro> no
[15:54] <jcastro> I didn't even know he had a server
[15:54] <JFo> nigelb, I do
[15:54] <jcastro> dholbach: hmm, what's up with daily builds?
[15:55] <nigelb> jcastro: the one his site is running on
[15:55] <dholbach> jcastro, one of the bugs will be fixed in the next release
[15:56] <nigelb> JFo: heh, you're evil ;)
[15:57] <jcastro> dholbach: so ... are we deferring our stuff?
[15:57] <jcastro> nigelb: oh, I thought he just used wordpress.com or something
[15:57] <nigelb> jcastro: jonobacon.org
[15:58] <dholbach> jcastro, what exactly?
[15:58] <jcastro> dholbach: I have all these work items on blogging about the features, etc.
[15:58] <dholbach> I'm not sure it's worth making a very big deal about it now
[15:59] <dholbach> jcastro, best talk to the daily builds folks what the situation is over there
[15:59] <dpm> and I did that awesome blog post with locked content
[15:59] <dholbach> (in terms of build machines, etc.)
[15:59] <dholbach> dpm, same here
[15:59] <dpm> :)
[15:59] <jcastro> dholbach: have you gotten it to work?
[16:00] <dholbach> jcastro, I had one daily build succeed and didn't have time afterwards to mess around with it
[16:04] <jcastro> ok
[16:04] <jcastro> I am going to postpone all mine and then catch up with bacon
[16:05] <jcastro> hey
[16:05] <jcastro> now that jono is gone maybe I should go bother every person in the channel every 2 hours about work items
[16:05]  * jcastro runs
[16:05] <czajkowski> heh
[16:05] <nigelb> lol
[16:06] <czajkowski> jcastro: spot the person back from holidays, full of energry! eh
[16:06] <jcastro> it was over 2 weeks
[16:06] <jcastro> I was lost
[16:06] <jcastro> didn't know how to have fun
[16:06] <nigelb> lol
[16:07] <nigelb> happened to me once when I was away for a week
[16:15] <nigelb> ok, so one slot down!
[16:15] <nigelb> 3 to go
[16:18] <jcastro> save one for me for telepathy!
[16:20] <nigelb> jcastro: first come, first served :p
[16:21] <dholbach> nigelb, Harold → Harald :)
[16:21] <nigelb> aaaaah
[16:22] <nigelb> dholbach: done :)
[16:22] <dholbach> :-)
[16:22] <nigelb> dholbach: gosh you're fast!
[16:30] <nigelb> oh, buxy has a nice blog post :)
[16:39] <sense> good afternoon
[16:39] <nigelb> afternoon sense :)
[16:39] <sense> hi nigelb!
[16:51] <nigelb> ugh, debian fails at utf8 out of the box
[16:51] <nigelb> at least the terminal does
[16:55] <doctormo> nigelb: How are you this morning?
[16:55] <nigelb> doctormo: sort of evening, having a really busy day
[17:10] <jussi> doctormo: ping
[17:13] <doctormo> jussi: png
[17:16] <vish> svg
[17:17] <G> jpg
[17:19] <jussi> doctormo: I seem to remember you were one of the people proposing that SVG could be used for most things that flash is used for. I wonder if you would care to advise me on how to actually do some of that.
[17:19] <jussi> vish: exactly! :D
[17:20]  * vish <-- mind reader :)
[17:21] <G> jussi: I'd say the idea was for presentations etc, different SVG layers in sequence etc
[17:22] <doctormo> jussi: OK so your svg is limited by browser, each browser supports a different level of svg.
[17:22] <G> demos etc which previously might be in flash etc
[17:22] <doctormo> jussi: So your prettymuch limited to some of the svg basics.
[17:22] <G> but yeah
[17:22] <jussi> doctormo: hrm, can you create something slightly interactive with links in it?
[17:22] <doctormo> jussi: You've got the option of writing things in inkscape and then doing transitions with javascript or writing the xml by hand.
[17:22] <jussi> lemme find an example...
[17:23] <doctormo> It's much like html
[17:23] <doctormo> jussi: http://svg-wow.org/
[17:24] <Pici> http://tavmjong.free.fr/INKSCAPE/DRAWINGS/clock2.svg
[17:24] <doctormo> got to head out!
[17:25] <jussi> doctormo: for example, the big thing in the center of this page: http://www.seddiqi.com/en
[17:25] <jussi> doctormo: for example, the big thing in the center of this page: http://www.seddiqi.com/en
[17:27] <jussi> stupid internets
[17:40] <dholbach>  ok my friends - see you in 3 weeks
[17:40] <dholbach>  all the best
[17:40] <dholbach>  and big hugs to you all
[17:41] <doctormo> back
[17:42] <czajkowski> dholbach: bye
[17:45] <nigelb> dholbach: bye!
[17:45] <nigelb> Have a nice trip :)
[17:46] <nigelb> and take lots of pics :)
[17:46] <dholbach> will do - thanks
[17:49] <akgraner> doctormo, just had your Reasons to Love Ubuntu poster printed into and 18 by 24 size poster - laminated  - looks great!!  Thanks for making that!
[17:49] <doctormo> akgraner: Fantastic!
[17:49] <doctormo> The artist is on my back because he wants to make a new version.
[17:50] <akgraner> send a snapshot of it to Facebook - but will take pics for you at OLF this weekend as well
[17:50] <akgraner> pleia2, I'll pick up the same size one of the new UW one tomorrow - I couldn't stick around to wait on it
[17:51] <pleia2> akgraner: woohoo :)
[17:55] <doctormo> akgraner: http://imagebin.org/113088
[17:56] <czajkowski> not sure if folks follow the open source thread on linkedin but http://www.linkedin.com/groupItem?view=&srchtype=discussedNews&gid=43875&item=28058648&type=member&trk=EML_anet_qa_ttle-d7hOon0JumNFomgJt7dBpSBA
[17:56] <akgraner> doctormo, I love it!
[17:57] <doctormo> akgraner: It's not finished going through my personal biased filtering ;-) but when I've done some editing and shading it should be up on spread ubuntu
[17:57] <doctormo> czajkowski: Sorry you are not a member of the group you are trying to access.
[17:57] <pleia2> doctormo: that's great :)
[17:58] <czajkowski> How popular is Ubuntu Linux with the corporate world? I know it's the top version of Linux with individual users, but are corporations bringing it in house and using it?
[17:58]  * vish smiles as jcastro pitches !
[17:58] <czajkowski> it's in the open source group
[17:58] <akgraner> Thanks!  I'll have to hold off getting that one printed into a posted but I'll print some handouts once its ready...
[18:00] <doctormo> czajkowski: I'd say CentOS, Debian and BSD all have their areas of operation. Ubuntu is sneaking in on newer deployments though. As far as I can tell.
[18:03] <akgraner> jcastro, if you have a chance can you show OLF and the UbuCon some blogging luv?
[18:07] <jcastro> nod
[18:09] <akgraner> thank you! :-)
[18:09] <akgraner> only 3 open slots for App Dev Week - woo hoo...
[18:10] <nigelb> akgraner: :)
[18:10] <nigelb> akgraner: make that 2 jcastro reserved one for telepathy
[18:11] <akgraner> jcastro, which time slot so I can take it off the timetable
[18:12] <jcastro> dunno
[18:13] <jcastro> they haven't gotten back to me yet
[18:13] <akgraner> ahh ok :-)
[18:13] <akgraner> mhall said to hold him reserve and if we need someone he will give one
[18:14] <akgraner> so hmm who can I go pester now
[18:16] <nigelb> akgraner: nhandler !
[18:16] <akgraner> nigelb, he can but only outside the timetable shown  - he has school
[18:16] <nigelb> Ah!
[18:16] <akgraner> I'll add his session once we get the timetable filled up
[18:17] <nigelb> see scrollback in backstage where we were firing of ideas
[18:17]  * akgraner looks
[18:17] <nigelb> akgraner: hrm, wasn't there a ruby talk.  I seem to remember something about it from yesterday
[18:18] <akgraner> matti, is checking his schedule
[18:18] <nigelb> aha, so 1 more which we /need/ to fill up
[18:19] <akgraner> yep providing the telepathy one pans out and we use mhall
[18:19] <akgraner> he wanted to give someone else an opportunity
[18:20] <nigelb> we'll end up begging him to do one ;)
[18:25] <nigelb> wow, the eclipse survey is very intesting
[18:25] <nigelb> *interesting
[18:25] <nigelb> linux usage has increased to 33% :)
[18:36] <jcastro> god, I wish the "Jorge Castro" in california would find a job already so his case worker can stop emailing me
[18:37] <nigelb> jcastro: hahha
[18:47] <nigelb> down to 2 more open sessions - this is moving fast!
[18:47]  * nigelb is adding one now
[18:50] <czajkowski> jcastro: lol
[19:02] <matti> Can I feel the 30th September hole?
[19:02] <matti> s/feel/fill/
[19:02] <matti> My mind is not with me today ;]
[19:05] <nigelb> matti: what do you want it called/
[19:07] <nigelb> "Starting Rails - Matii"?
[19:17] <nigelb> doctormo: <3 <3 http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs599.snc4/57985_1515914972347_1068640102_1515410_3574863_n.jpg
[20:03] <doctormo> nigelb: <3
[20:10] <doctormo> jcastro: Heh, that's a bit like the calls I get from Banks and Realtors about Canonical employees. Mix-ups happen.
[20:11] <Pendulum> jcastro: at least you share a name. I get e-mails and other things for Patrick Stowe and Paul Stowe all the time
[20:12] <Pendulum> including things like cable internet bills, mates wanting to go out, once I got someone's wife's grocery list
[20:12] <Pendulum> oh, a couple car rental confirmation e-mails
[20:13] <Pendulum> although I'm a bit curious to find out what happened to the guy whose internert bill I was getting since I contacted Virgin and explained they had the wrong e-mail address...
[20:13] <czajkowski> I do get the oddest of random DM's on freenode
[20:13] <matti> nigelb: No. No Rails ;]
[20:14] <matti> nigelb: I need to came up with the title ;]
[20:15] <matti> nigelb: "For infinity and beyond - gentle introduction to Ruby"
[20:19] <AlanBell> matti: just edit the page and put yourself in
[20:19] <matti> Aye.
[20:19] <matti> I have to eat something first ... missed lunch at work and I am starving ;]
[21:14] <jcastro> czajkowski: mission almost successful
[21:15] <jcastro> I have alan's address now
[21:15] <jcastro> any idea what he likes to drink?
[21:16] <czajkowski> I've no idea...
[21:16] <czajkowski> hoping he's coming to ossbarcamp actually need to poke him
[21:17] <jcastro> when is that?
[21:17] <czajkowski> 25/26th september ossbarcamp.com
[21:17] <czajkowski> my wee hobby
[21:17] <czajkowski> :D
[21:17] <jcastro> wait, lol.
[21:17] <jcastro> so this whole time you could have just met him there and given him a gift instead of us digging for his address? lolz.
[21:18] <czajkowski> no I've no idea if he's coming or not
[21:18] <czajkowski> he's unsure
[21:18] <jcastro> oh I see.
[21:18] <czajkowski> I already mailed and asked him
[21:18] <czajkowski> plus you never told me you needed his address now did you :)
[21:18] <czajkowski> bit odd a girl asking a random blokde his address mind
[21:19] <jcastro> it's ok, I conspired with a coworker
[21:21] <jcastro> hey, you drink whiskey right?
[21:21] <czajkowski> I love JD
[21:21] <czajkowski> nyomy
[21:32] <czajkowski> jcastro: I wont drink his pressie on him if that's what yer worried about :p
[21:34] <matti> nigelb, AlanBell: 200 OK
[21:55] <pleia2> anyone else about for the CC meeting in 5 min?
[21:56] <pleia2> looks like emea will run over, and i'm by the poolside (woo sorta vacation!)
[21:58] <czajkowski> will run over by a few
[21:58] <czajkowski> not long
[22:00] <doctormo> pleia2: Sounds nice, but why are you on the computer?
[22:01] <jcastro> indeed
[22:01] <pleia2> doctormo: phone :) I am very comitted!
[22:01] <jcastro> don't do what jcastro does on vacation!
[22:01] <czajkowski> and burn
[22:01] <czajkowski> do not burn
[22:01] <czajkowski> still baffled how you burnt!
[22:02] <doctormo> Scorch!
[22:02] <jcastro> me too, but I am ok now
[22:02] <czajkowski> yay
[22:02] <jcastro> I think it was the snorkeling
[22:03] <pleia2> but i am only sticking around for another 3 minutes if no one else shows up ;)
[22:03] <czajkowski> nearly finsohed
[22:03] <czajkowski> persia is there
[22:05] <pleia2> he's not cc
[22:05] <czajkowski> ahh
[22:05] <czajkowski> he just turns up
[22:05] <czajkowski> :)
[22:05] <czajkowski> 1 more...
[22:05] <czajkowski> popey gave aplogies for emea so I'd assume same for CC
[22:06] <pleia2> ok, back to pool for me
[22:20] <Technoviking> pleia2: here, just got good wifi
[22:26] <maco> czajkowski: why do you drink whiskey instead of whisky? i'd think whisky'd be easier to import
[22:28] <czajkowski> maco: Whisky (Scottish English) or whiskey (Irish English
[22:45] <maco> fair enough if made in scotland, but scottish whisky seems easier to import than JD (that's american, right?)
[22:47] <czajkowski> aye but I love JD
[22:47] <czajkowski> and souther comfort and red lemonade
[22:48] <czajkowski> red lemonade can only be bought in ireland though due to the ingrediants they won't export it
[22:48] <czajkowski> makes children very hyper active
[22:57] <czajkowski> jcastro: Jettas are very nice and cosy to drive
[22:58] <jcastro> yeah
[22:58] <jcastro> it looks fun
[22:58] <jcastro> the golf too
[22:58] <czajkowski> golfs are nippy
[22:58] <jcastro> what does nippy mean?
[22:58] <czajkowski> fast
[22:58] <jcastro> ah
[22:58] <AlanBell> or cold
[22:59] <czajkowski> for the size of car they are, they are very fast
[22:59] <czajkowski> AlanBell: not in relation to cars thoight
[22:59] <czajkowski> *though
[22:59] <nigelb> matti: thanks :)
[22:59] <AlanBell> true, context is everything
[22:59] <czajkowski> indeed
[22:59] <czajkowski> jetta are a longer body car at least over here
[23:00] <AlanBell> a good evenings work in -accessibility http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/WkO4TZbvWt the start of the personas
[23:05]  * highvoltage misses his golf :(
[23:05] <highvoltage> (the honda is just too slow up hills)
[23:06] <czajkowski> last time I went to play golf I put my back out for 6 weeks and was in traction for 5 weeks , never again
[23:08]  * nigelb hugs czajkowski :)
[23:11] <jcastro> the golf looks cute
[23:11] <jcastro> but it might be too small
[23:11] <jcastro> i will have to test drive both!
[23:11]  * nigelb hugs jcastro 
[23:11] <nigelb> this is what happens when you ask something :p
[23:12] <nigelb> I made the mistake of asking "What's up with featured apps for
[23:12] <nigelb> Maverick?"
[23:12] <jcastro> heh
[23:12] <czajkowski> think the jetta was replaced by the bora over here but then the jetta came back
[23:12] <nigelb> jcastro: btw, I've heard good things about Golf
[23:12] <nigelb> (the 5-door variety)
[23:12] <czajkowski> Vw's hold their value and are good cars
[23:12] <nigelb> +1
[23:14] <nigelb> jcastro: http://www.flickr.com/photos/caribb/4456092906/ :)
[23:16] <jcastro> nice
[23:16] <jcastro> 5 doors for me though
[23:17] <nigelb> heh :)
[23:24] <duanedesign> ha, look at this pimp golf http://tinyurl.com/24opjw4
[23:25] <duanedesign> if you look closely, those are chains for seatbelts
[23:25] <duanedesign> :D
[23:25] <nigelb> lol