| === FireCrotch_ is now known as FireCrotch | ||
| Blank__ | :o an iphone user! shun! | 07:03 |
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| ryanpg | hi all... can anyone explain to me (or point me to a url) what is going on with jackd in ubuntu 10.10? | 15:32 |
| ryanpg | attempting to install jackd2 results in many many apps being removed, conversely, certain apps seem to require jackd2 | 15:33 |
| ryanpg | this is very frustrating, and I'm concerned with the release of 10.10 a month away | 15:45 |
| ryanpg | anyone? | 15:45 |
| holstein | ryanpg: hello | 15:49 |
| holstein | phone... | 15:49 |
| holstein | bbib | 15:49 |
| holstein | biab | 15:49 |
| ryanpg | thanks holstein | 15:52 |
| holstein | alright | 15:52 |
| ryanpg | holstein, I'm also in -devel :) | 15:52 |
| holstein | ryanpg: are you running 10.10 beta | 15:52 |
| ryanpg | holstein, yes | 15:53 |
| holstein | ryanpg: AH | 15:53 |
| holstein | i see you got ScottL talking to you over in -devel :) | 15:54 |
| ryanpg | yeah, should we continue in -devel ? | 15:54 |
| holstein | sure | 15:54 |
| holstein | ryanpg: the OSMP channel i was referring to is #opensourcemusicians | 16:09 |
| ryanpg | holstein, oh cool - never heard of that one | 16:10 |
| === olinuxx_ is now known as Olinuxx | ||
| musotek | hi guys | 18:27 |
| holstein | musotek: hello | 18:28 |
| musotek | Cannot get my M-Audio Delta 66 to work properly on Lucid. | 18:28 |
| musotek | Any suggestions? | 18:28 |
| musotek | INFO: | 18:28 |
| musotek | ******************** | 18:28 |
| musotek | :~$ lspci|grep audio | 18:28 |
| musotek | 00:0a.0 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies Inc. ICE1712 [Envy24] PCI Multi-Channel I/O Controller (rev 02) | 18:28 |
| musotek | ******************** | 18:28 |
| musotek | :~$ lsmod |grep snd | 18:28 |
| musotek | snd_ice1712 55129 0 | 18:28 |
| musotek | snd_ice17xx_ak4xxx 2547 1 snd_ice1712 | 18:28 |
| musotek | snd_ak4xxx_adda 7364 2 snd_ice1712,snd_ice17xx_ak4xxx | 18:28 |
| musotek | snd_cs8427 6522 1 snd_ice1712 | 18:28 |
| musotek | snd_ac97_codec 100646 1 snd_ice1712 | 18:28 |
| holstein | might want to use pastebin | 18:28 |
| musotek | snd_pcm_oss 35308 0 | 18:28 |
| musotek | snd_mixer_oss 13746 1 snd_pcm_oss | 18:28 |
| holstein | or ubuntu paste | 18:28 |
| musotek | snd_pcm 70662 3 snd_ice1712,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss | 18:28 |
| musotek | snd_page_alloc 7076 1 snd_pcm | 18:28 |
| musotek | ac97_bus 1002 1 snd_ac97_codec | 18:28 |
| musotek | snd_i2c 4398 2 snd_ice1712,snd_cs8427 | 18:28 |
| musotek | snd_mpu401_uart 5617 1 snd_ice1712 | 18:28 |
| musotek | snd_seq_dummy 1338 0 | 18:29 |
| musotek | snd_seq_oss 26726 0 | 18:29 |
| musotek | snd_seq_midi 4557 0 | 18:29 |
| musotek | snd_rawmidi 19056 2 snd_mpu401_uart,snd_seq_midi | 18:29 |
| musotek | snd_seq_midi_event 6003 2 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi | 18:29 |
| musotek | snd_seq 47263 6 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event | 18:29 |
| holstein | http://paste.ubuntu.com/ | 18:29 |
| musotek | snd_timer 19098 2 snd_pcm,snd_seq | 18:29 |
| musotek | snd_seq_device 5700 5 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq | 18:29 |
| musotek | snd 54148 14 snd_ice1712,snd_ak4xxx_adda,snd_cs8427,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_i2c,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_seq_oss,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device | 18:29 |
| musotek | soundcore 6620 1 snd | 18:29 |
| musotek | ******************** | 18:29 |
| musotek | :~$ cat /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf | 18:29 |
| musotek | # autoloader aliases | 18:29 |
| musotek | install sound-slot-0 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-0 | 18:29 |
| musotek | install sound-slot-1 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-1 | 18:29 |
| musotek | install sound-slot-2 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-2 | 18:29 |
| musotek | install sound-slot-3 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-3 | 18:29 |
| musotek | install sound-slot-4 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-4 | 18:29 |
| musotek | install sound-slot-5 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-5 | 18:29 |
| musotek | install sound-slot-6 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-6 | 18:29 |
| holstein | flooding the channel like this usually makes people sad :/ | 18:29 |
| musotek | install sound-slot-7 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-7 | 18:29 |
| musotek | of course | 18:29 |
| musotek | thanks | 18:29 |
| holstein | musotek: i'll just be a few ticks :) | 18:29 |
| musotek | sorry about that | 18:30 |
| musotek | http://paste.ubuntu.com/489936/ | 18:30 |
| holstein | musotek: no worries :) | 18:32 |
| musotek | :) | 18:32 |
| holstein | well we no that card works well | 18:32 |
| holstein | know* | 18:32 |
| holstein | at least that is what im told | 18:32 |
| musotek | that's what I heard too | 18:33 |
| holstein | musotek: you can paste this here | 18:35 |
| holstein | it wont be much | 18:35 |
| holstein | whats | 18:35 |
| holstein | the output of | 18:35 |
| holstein | uname -a | 18:35 |
| holstein | and | 18:35 |
| holstein | aplay -l | 18:36 |
| holstein | and | 18:36 |
| holstein | arecord -l | 18:36 |
| musotek | 2.6.32-21-generic #32-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 16 08:10:02 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux | 18:36 |
| holstein | AH | 18:36 |
| musotek | aplay: device_list:223: no soundcards found... | 18:36 |
| holstein | hmm | 18:37 |
| holstein | thats not good | 18:37 |
| musotek | arecord: device_list:223: no soundcards found... | 18:37 |
| holstein | hmmm | 18:37 |
| musotek | nope | 18:37 |
| holstein | its a delta? | 18:37 |
| musotek | yeah | 18:37 |
| holstein | 6 6? | 18:37 |
| musotek | delta 66 | 18:37 |
| ryanpg | hi all... back | 18:38 |
| musotek | hi | 18:38 |
| ryanpg | man, for the life of me... I can't get rid of xruns with my edirol usb ua-25 | 18:38 |
| ryanpg | driving me nuts | 18:38 |
| holstein | http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Module-ice1712 | 18:38 |
| holstein | looks like you might need to do some tweaking | 18:38 |
| ryanpg | do we still have to change the priority of the IRQ our audio interface is on? | 18:39 |
| holstein | i was thinking of the 1010lt | 18:39 |
| holstein | ryanpg: dont have to | 18:39 |
| holstein | you getting xruns? | 18:39 |
| ryanpg | oh man yeah | 18:39 |
| musotek | nice one .. I'll give that a read ... thanks | 18:39 |
| ryanpg | just sitting idle I get a burst of xruns every 20 seconds or so | 18:39 |
| holstein | musotek: theres probably something more relevant to ubuntu around somewhere | 18:39 |
| ryanpg | frames 64 periods 6 | 18:39 |
| holstein | musotek: try #opensourcemusicians too :) | 18:39 |
| holstein | ryanpg: what kernel? | 18:40 |
| holstein | uname -a | 18:40 |
| ryanpg | Linux Ryan-Laptop 2.6.33-29-realtime #1-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT RT Thu Aug 5 12:28:39 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux | 18:40 |
| holstein | hmmm | 18:40 |
| holstein | yeah, lets look at you IRQ's | 18:40 |
| ryanpg | holstein, honestly I've never gotten low latency with USB on linux | 18:40 |
| ryanpg | irq 18 is the usb bus I'm plugged into | 18:41 |
| holstein | cat /proc/interrupts | 18:41 |
| ryanpg | nothing else on that irq | 18:41 |
| holstein | and paste that to.. | 18:41 |
| ryanpg | 80 root -90 0 0 0 0 S 4 0.0 0:42.83 irq/18-uhci_hcd | 18:41 |
| holstein | http://paste.ubuntu.com/ | 18:41 |
| holstein | OH | 18:41 |
| holstein | ok | 18:41 |
| holstein | hmmm | 18:41 |
| ryanpg | yeah, PR is -90 | 18:41 |
| ryanpg | jackd is also -90 | 18:42 |
| holstein | ryanpg: let me think a minute | 18:42 |
| holstein | but run | 18:42 |
| holstein | sudo qjackctl | 18:42 |
| holstein | and see if its the same | 18:42 |
| ryanpg | qjacktl is running now | 18:42 |
| ryanpg | but you mean run it as root? | 18:42 |
| holstein | yeah, sudo run it :) | 18:42 |
| musotek | holstein: thanks | 18:42 |
| holstein | musotek: let us know | 18:42 |
| holstein | i think thats do-able | 18:42 |
| musotek | ok | 18:43 |
| holstein | ryanpg: maybe just try turning it down even more | 18:43 |
| holstein | maybe 512 and 3 | 18:43 |
| holstein | or 1024 and 3 | 18:43 |
| ryanpg | oh man... I want to do live guitar effect processing | 18:44 |
| ryanpg | anything over 10ms is useless | 18:44 |
| holstein | ryanpg: that realtime checkbox is checked right? | 18:44 |
| ryanpg | sure is | 18:44 |
| holstein | in 'setup' | 18:44 |
| holstein | hmmm | 18:44 |
| holstein | if you set it up with the latency around 20ms or so | 18:44 |
| ryanpg | lol, just got another xrun | 18:44 |
| holstein | does it seem solid? | 18:44 |
| ryanpg | let's see | 18:45 |
| holstein | ryanpg: yeah, i dont think its permission | 18:45 |
| holstein | you can run it as normal user | 18:45 |
| ryanpg | k, bumped it up to about 20ms | 18:45 |
| holstein | that might just be all it can do | 18:46 |
| holstein | you might get better performance from your internal card | 18:46 |
| holstein | i hate to say | 18:46 |
| ryanpg | I hope not... others claim to get 4ms of latency from that | 18:46 |
| ryanpg | card | 18:46 |
| holstein | ryanpg: are you sure thats the IRQ ? | 18:46 |
| holstein | the right USB port? | 18:46 |
| ryanpg | absolutely | 18:46 |
| ryanpg | lsusb says bus 7 | 18:47 |
| ryanpg | /proc/interrupts say 7 is irq 18 | 18:47 |
| holstein | ryanpg: just for S&G | 18:47 |
| holstein | maybe try another port?? | 18:47 |
| ryanpg | holstein, have tried every one on the laptops | 18:47 |
| holstein | seems like you got it set up well | 18:47 |
| ryanpg | yeah... uless I can set that irq to realtime | 18:48 |
| ryanpg | can't chrt do that? | 18:48 |
| * holstein is not sure | 18:48 | |
| holstein | BUT | 18:48 |
| holstein | there was a guy in #opensourcemusicians talking about that | 18:48 |
| holstein | i think it was transmorgramofix | 18:48 |
| holstein | the #rakarrack guy | 18:48 |
| Adriannom | hi. i have a laptop with ubuntu studio karmic. since installing i've been unable to read usb drives unless i mount them manually. i've had the same model laptop (hp 550) running hardy, karmic and lucid with no usb problems. any ideas why i'm having this problem, or how i can start diagnosing? | 19:09 |
| holstein | hey Adriannom | 19:11 |
| Adriannom | hi :) | 19:11 |
| holstein | is this an ubuntustudio install? | 19:11 |
| holstein | or an upgrade? | 19:11 |
| Adriannom | install | 19:11 |
| holstein | and the others are standard installs? | 19:11 |
| holstein | ubuntu installs? | 19:11 |
| Adriannom | that's right | 19:12 |
| holstein | that might be a studio thing | 19:12 |
| holstein | im not sure | 19:12 |
| holstein | id have to go and check that out | 19:12 |
| holstein | and i dont have karmic studio installed | 19:12 |
| holstein | i would trouble shoot that just like an ubuntu issue though | 19:12 |
| holstein | i bet its a gconf setting | 19:12 |
| Adriannom | hm | 19:13 |
| holstein | or a package that needs to be installed | 19:13 |
| holstein | Adriannom: do CD's mount automaically? | 19:13 |
| Adriannom | yeah maybe overlooked package, but then more users would be having the same problem surely | 19:13 |
| Adriannom | i'll check | 19:13 |
| holstein | well | 19:13 |
| holstein | somethings are left out of studio | 19:13 |
| holstein | because of performance concerns | 19:14 |
| Adriannom | yeah, but everyone who uses audio uses usb drives, right? ;) | 19:14 |
| holstein | sure | 19:14 |
| holstein | you can mount them though | 19:14 |
| holstein | right? | 19:14 |
| Adriannom | yeah as root | 19:14 |
| holstein | OH | 19:14 |
| holstein | that might be a different thing altogether | 19:14 |
| * holstein missed the root user thing before | 19:15 | |
| holstein | Adriannom: i have a great idea :) | 19:15 |
| holstein | why not upgrade that box to lucid | 19:15 |
| holstein | and then check it out after that | 19:15 |
| holstein | mabye that will fix it | 19:15 |
| Adriannom | cd isn't mounting automatically | 19:15 |
| holstein | then your on LTS :) | 19:15 |
| Adriannom | yeah ok | 19:16 |
| holstein | now i think its a user thing | 19:16 |
| * holstein did 2 studio install upgrades | 19:16 | |
| holstein | and they went well | 19:17 |
| holstein | upgrades usually do pretty well these days | 19:17 |
| Adriannom | a user thing? what do you think i've done? | 19:17 |
| holstein | well, you might not have done it | 19:17 |
| Adriannom | :P | 19:17 |
| holstein | but some permissions could be set wrong | 19:17 |
| holstein | might need to re-add yourself to a gourp | 19:18 |
| holstein | group* | 19:18 |
| holstein | maybe disk group | 19:18 |
| holstein | not sure though | 19:18 |
| holstein | i would google that before just adding it | 19:18 |
| Adriannom | ok i think upgrade first then | 19:18 |
| Adriannom | thanks :) | 19:18 |
| holstein | Adriannom: let me know | 19:18 |
| holstein | it could be as simple as | 19:18 |
| holstein | sudo adduser Adriannom disk | 19:18 |
| holstein | and that would do it | 19:19 |
| holstein | but i think upgrading is a good idea | 19:19 |
| Adriannom | heheh, i just pasted that in and it fixed it | 19:20 |
| Adriannom | i think i'm better off not upgrading since this is a production machine | 19:20 |
| Adriannom | any changes could be bad | 19:20 |
| Adriannom | using it to dj live ya see | 19:21 |
| Adriannom | but it's great that this is fixed, thanks a lot holstein :) | 19:21 |
| holstein | Adriannom: i hear you | 19:22 |
| holstein | 'if it aint broke' :) | 19:22 |
| ryanpg | holstein, now I'm getting xruns at 23.2 ms | 19:37 |
| ryanpg | :( | 19:37 |
| holstein | what did you change? | 19:37 |
| ryanpg | nothing, power went out - restarted and let jackd run | 19:37 |
| ryanpg | just got two xruns | 19:38 |
| holstein | i get an xrun every now and then | 19:38 |
| ryanpg | jackd -R -P89 -dalsa -dhw:1 -r44100 -p128 -n8 | 19:38 |
| holstein | when i start a program | 19:38 |
| holstein | ryanpg: whats with -n8 ? | 19:38 |
| ryanpg | number of frames | 19:38 |
| holstein | yeah, why 8? | 19:39 |
| ryanpg | bumping up and up and up to find a stable number | 19:39 |
| holstein | try bumping the other one | 19:39 |
| holstein | leaving that one at -n2 | 19:39 |
| holstein | or 3 | 19:39 |
| ryanpg | jackd -R -P89 -dalsa -dhw:1 -r44100 -p512 -n2 | 19:39 |
| holstein | ryanpg: whats that do? | 19:40 |
| holstein | ryanpg: i assume your in #jack ?? | 19:40 |
| ryanpg | period = 512 frames (11.6 ms), buffer = 2 periods | 19:40 |
| ryanpg | running jackd from the command line | 19:40 |
| holstein | ryanpg: does that run stable? | 19:40 |
| ryanpg | so far | 19:40 |
| holstein | 11.6 is not bad | 19:41 |
| ryanpg | well.... 11.6 x 2 | 19:41 |
| holstein | maybe you can get -p256 -n2 | 19:41 |
| ryanpg | 11.6 ms latency for 512 frames, and two periods = 23.2 ms | 19:41 |
| ryanpg | maybe, I'll let this run a bit.... see if there's xruns | 19:41 |
| holstein | i think you can have too many periods | 19:42 |
| ryanpg | but 11.6 ms is really unacceptable for realtime signal processing | 19:42 |
| holstein | and make xruns | 19:42 |
| holstein | not sure though | 19:42 |
| ryanpg | well... | 19:42 |
| ryanpg | I'll go ahead and try | 19:42 |
| holstein | hell | 19:42 |
| holstein | try -p64 -n2 | 19:42 |
| ryanpg | it usually takes around 20-30 seconds for the xruns to start | 19:43 |
| ryanpg | I'll give 64 2 a try | 19:43 |
| ryanpg | lol, xruns galore | 19:47 |
| ryanpg | but... I think I figured something out | 19:47 |
| ryanpg | it's either my graphics card or my wireless card that's interfering I think | 19:47 |
| ryanpg | because I get tons of xruns when starting a web browser | 19:47 |
| holstein | yeah | 19:48 |
| holstein | i get one when i start a browser usually | 19:48 |
| holstein | when i have it set at like 1.2ms | 19:48 |
| ryanpg | wow, well I don't need networking when I'm playing - so I'll just experiment with turning it off | 20:23 |
| ryanpg | holstein, thanks for your help! | 20:23 |
| holstein | ryanpg: anytime :) | 20:23 |
| holstein | let us know how it goes | 20:23 |
| ryanpg | will-do | 20:25 |
| ryanpg | later | 20:25 |
| prep | Holstein, breaker breaker one-nine | 20:29 |
| prep | How can I update to 10.10? Not showing in Update Manager. | 21:46 |
| prep | found it, later | 22:25 |
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