=== FireCrotch_ is now known as FireCrotch [07:03] :o an iphone user! shun! [15:32] hi all... can anyone explain to me (or point me to a url) what is going on with jackd in ubuntu 10.10? [15:33] attempting to install jackd2 results in many many apps being removed, conversely, certain apps seem to require jackd2 [15:45] this is very frustrating, and I'm concerned with the release of 10.10 a month away [15:45] anyone? [15:49] ryanpg: hello [15:49] phone... [15:49] bbib [15:49] biab [15:52] thanks holstein [15:52] alright [15:52] holstein, I'm also in -devel :) [15:52] ryanpg: are you running 10.10 beta [15:53] holstein, yes [15:53] ryanpg: AH [15:54] i see you got ScottL talking to you over in -devel :) [15:54] yeah, should we continue in -devel ? [15:54] sure [16:09] ryanpg: the OSMP channel i was referring to is #opensourcemusicians [16:10] holstein, oh cool - never heard of that one === olinuxx_ is now known as Olinuxx [18:27] hi guys [18:28] musotek: hello [18:28] Cannot get my M-Audio Delta 66 to work properly on Lucid. [18:28] Any suggestions? [18:28] INFO: [18:28] ******************** [18:28] :~$ lspci|grep audio [18:28] 00:0a.0 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies Inc. ICE1712 [Envy24] PCI Multi-Channel I/O Controller (rev 02) [18:28] ******************** [18:28] :~$ lsmod |grep snd [18:28] snd_ice1712 55129 0 [18:28] snd_ice17xx_ak4xxx 2547 1 snd_ice1712 [18:28] snd_ak4xxx_adda 7364 2 snd_ice1712,snd_ice17xx_ak4xxx [18:28] snd_cs8427 6522 1 snd_ice1712 [18:28] snd_ac97_codec 100646 1 snd_ice1712 [18:28] might want to use pastebin [18:28] snd_pcm_oss 35308 0 [18:28] snd_mixer_oss 13746 1 snd_pcm_oss [18:28] or ubuntu paste [18:28] snd_pcm 70662 3 snd_ice1712,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss [18:28] snd_page_alloc 7076 1 snd_pcm [18:28] ac97_bus 1002 1 snd_ac97_codec [18:28] snd_i2c 4398 2 snd_ice1712,snd_cs8427 [18:28] snd_mpu401_uart 5617 1 snd_ice1712 [18:29] snd_seq_dummy 1338 0 [18:29] snd_seq_oss 26726 0 [18:29] snd_seq_midi 4557 0 [18:29] snd_rawmidi 19056 2 snd_mpu401_uart,snd_seq_midi [18:29] snd_seq_midi_event 6003 2 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi [18:29] snd_seq 47263 6 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event [18:29] http://paste.ubuntu.com/ [18:29] snd_timer 19098 2 snd_pcm,snd_seq [18:29] snd_seq_device 5700 5 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq [18:29] snd 54148 14 snd_ice1712,snd_ak4xxx_adda,snd_cs8427,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_i2c,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_seq_oss,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device [18:29] soundcore 6620 1 snd [18:29] ******************** [18:29] :~$ cat /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf [18:29] # autoloader aliases [18:29] install sound-slot-0 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-0 [18:29] install sound-slot-1 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-1 [18:29] install sound-slot-2 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-2 [18:29] install sound-slot-3 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-3 [18:29] install sound-slot-4 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-4 [18:29] install sound-slot-5 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-5 [18:29] install sound-slot-6 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-6 [18:29] flooding the channel like this usually makes people sad :/ [18:29] install sound-slot-7 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-7 [18:29] of course [18:29] thanks [18:29] musotek: i'll just be a few ticks :) [18:30] sorry about that [18:30] http://paste.ubuntu.com/489936/ [18:32] musotek: no worries :) [18:32] :) [18:32] well we no that card works well [18:32] know* [18:32] at least that is what im told [18:33] that's what I heard too [18:35] musotek: you can paste this here [18:35] it wont be much [18:35] whats [18:35] the output of [18:35] uname -a [18:35] and [18:36] aplay -l [18:36] and [18:36] arecord -l [18:36] 2.6.32-21-generic #32-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 16 08:10:02 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux [18:36] AH [18:36] aplay: device_list:223: no soundcards found... [18:37] hmm [18:37] thats not good [18:37] arecord: device_list:223: no soundcards found... [18:37] hmmm [18:37] nope [18:37] its a delta? [18:37] yeah [18:37] 6 6? [18:37] delta 66 [18:38] hi all... back [18:38] hi [18:38] man, for the life of me... I can't get rid of xruns with my edirol usb ua-25 [18:38] driving me nuts [18:38] http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Module-ice1712 [18:38] looks like you might need to do some tweaking [18:39] do we still have to change the priority of the IRQ our audio interface is on? [18:39] i was thinking of the 1010lt [18:39] ryanpg: dont have to [18:39] you getting xruns? [18:39] oh man yeah [18:39] nice one .. I'll give that a read ... thanks [18:39] just sitting idle I get a burst of xruns every 20 seconds or so [18:39] musotek: theres probably something more relevant to ubuntu around somewhere [18:39] frames 64 periods 6 [18:39] musotek: try #opensourcemusicians too :) [18:40] ryanpg: what kernel? [18:40] uname -a [18:40] Linux Ryan-Laptop 2.6.33-29-realtime #1-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT RT Thu Aug 5 12:28:39 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux [18:40] hmmm [18:40] yeah, lets look at you IRQ's [18:40] holstein, honestly I've never gotten low latency with USB on linux [18:41] irq 18 is the usb bus I'm plugged into [18:41] cat /proc/interrupts [18:41] nothing else on that irq [18:41] and paste that to.. [18:41] 80 root -90 0 0 0 0 S 4 0.0 0:42.83 irq/18-uhci_hcd [18:41] http://paste.ubuntu.com/ [18:41] OH [18:41] ok [18:41] hmmm [18:41] yeah, PR is -90 [18:42] jackd is also -90 [18:42] ryanpg: let me think a minute [18:42] but run [18:42] sudo qjackctl [18:42] and see if its the same [18:42] qjacktl is running now [18:42] but you mean run it as root? [18:42] yeah, sudo run it :) [18:42] holstein: thanks [18:42] musotek: let us know [18:42] i think thats do-able [18:43] ok [18:43] ryanpg: maybe just try turning it down even more [18:43] maybe 512 and 3 [18:43] or 1024 and 3 [18:44] oh man... I want to do live guitar effect processing [18:44] anything over 10ms is useless [18:44] ryanpg: that realtime checkbox is checked right? [18:44] sure is [18:44] in 'setup' [18:44] hmmm [18:44] if you set it up with the latency around 20ms or so [18:44] lol, just got another xrun [18:44] does it seem solid? [18:45] let's see [18:45] ryanpg: yeah, i dont think its permission [18:45] you can run it as normal user [18:45] k, bumped it up to about 20ms [18:46] that might just be all it can do [18:46] you might get better performance from your internal card [18:46] i hate to say [18:46] I hope not... others claim to get 4ms of latency from that [18:46] card [18:46] ryanpg: are you sure thats the IRQ ? [18:46] the right USB port? [18:46] absolutely [18:47] lsusb says bus 7 [18:47] /proc/interrupts say 7 is irq 18 [18:47] ryanpg: just for S&G [18:47] maybe try another port?? [18:47] holstein, have tried every one on the laptops [18:47] seems like you got it set up well [18:48] yeah... uless I can set that irq to realtime [18:48] can't chrt do that? [18:48] * holstein is not sure [18:48] BUT [18:48] there was a guy in #opensourcemusicians talking about that [18:48] i think it was transmorgramofix [18:48] the #rakarrack guy [19:09] hi. i have a laptop with ubuntu studio karmic. since installing i've been unable to read usb drives unless i mount them manually. i've had the same model laptop (hp 550) running hardy, karmic and lucid with no usb problems. any ideas why i'm having this problem, or how i can start diagnosing? [19:11] hey Adriannom [19:11] hi :) [19:11] is this an ubuntustudio install? [19:11] or an upgrade? [19:11] install [19:11] and the others are standard installs? [19:11] ubuntu installs? [19:12] that's right [19:12] that might be a studio thing [19:12] im not sure [19:12] id have to go and check that out [19:12] and i dont have karmic studio installed [19:12] i would trouble shoot that just like an ubuntu issue though [19:12] i bet its a gconf setting [19:13] hm [19:13] or a package that needs to be installed [19:13] Adriannom: do CD's mount automaically? [19:13] yeah maybe overlooked package, but then more users would be having the same problem surely [19:13] i'll check [19:13] well [19:13] somethings are left out of studio [19:14] because of performance concerns [19:14] yeah, but everyone who uses audio uses usb drives, right? ;) [19:14] sure [19:14] you can mount them though [19:14] right? [19:14] yeah as root [19:14] OH [19:14] that might be a different thing altogether [19:15] * holstein missed the root user thing before [19:15] Adriannom: i have a great idea :) [19:15] why not upgrade that box to lucid [19:15] and then check it out after that [19:15] mabye that will fix it [19:15] cd isn't mounting automatically [19:15] then your on LTS :) [19:16] yeah ok [19:16] now i think its a user thing [19:16] * holstein did 2 studio install upgrades [19:17] and they went well [19:17] upgrades usually do pretty well these days [19:17] a user thing? what do you think i've done? [19:17] well, you might not have done it [19:17] :P [19:17] but some permissions could be set wrong [19:18] might need to re-add yourself to a gourp [19:18] group* [19:18] maybe disk group [19:18] not sure though [19:18] i would google that before just adding it [19:18] ok i think upgrade first then [19:18] thanks :) [19:18] Adriannom: let me know [19:18] it could be as simple as [19:18] sudo adduser Adriannom disk [19:19] and that would do it [19:19] but i think upgrading is a good idea [19:20] heheh, i just pasted that in and it fixed it [19:20] i think i'm better off not upgrading since this is a production machine [19:20] any changes could be bad [19:21] using it to dj live ya see [19:21] but it's great that this is fixed, thanks a lot holstein :) [19:22] Adriannom: i hear you [19:22] 'if it aint broke' :) [19:37] holstein, now I'm getting xruns at 23.2 ms [19:37] :( [19:37] what did you change? [19:37] nothing, power went out - restarted and let jackd run [19:38] just got two xruns [19:38] i get an xrun every now and then [19:38] jackd -R -P89 -dalsa -dhw:1 -r44100 -p128 -n8 [19:38] when i start a program [19:38] ryanpg: whats with -n8 ? [19:38] number of frames [19:39] yeah, why 8? [19:39] bumping up and up and up to find a stable number [19:39] try bumping the other one [19:39] leaving that one at -n2 [19:39] or 3 [19:39] jackd -R -P89 -dalsa -dhw:1 -r44100 -p512 -n2 [19:40] ryanpg: whats that do? [19:40] ryanpg: i assume your in #jack ?? [19:40] period = 512 frames (11.6 ms), buffer = 2 periods [19:40] running jackd from the command line [19:40] ryanpg: does that run stable? [19:40] so far [19:41] 11.6 is not bad [19:41] well.... 11.6 x 2 [19:41] maybe you can get -p256 -n2 [19:41] 11.6 ms latency for 512 frames, and two periods = 23.2 ms [19:41] maybe, I'll let this run a bit.... see if there's xruns [19:42] i think you can have too many periods [19:42] but 11.6 ms is really unacceptable for realtime signal processing [19:42] and make xruns [19:42] not sure though [19:42] well... [19:42] I'll go ahead and try [19:42] hell [19:42] try -p64 -n2 [19:43] it usually takes around 20-30 seconds for the xruns to start [19:43] I'll give 64 2 a try [19:47] lol, xruns galore [19:47] but... I think I figured something out [19:47] it's either my graphics card or my wireless card that's interfering I think [19:47] because I get tons of xruns when starting a web browser [19:48] yeah [19:48] i get one when i start a browser usually [19:48] when i have it set at like 1.2ms [20:23] wow, well I don't need networking when I'm playing - so I'll just experiment with turning it off [20:23] holstein, thanks for your help! [20:23] ryanpg: anytime :) [20:23] let us know how it goes [20:25] will-do [20:25] later [20:29] Holstein, breaker breaker one-nine [21:46] How can I update to 10.10? Not showing in Update Manager. [22:25] found it, later