[00:17] <Shootmeplz> hello?
[00:17] <Shootmeplz> Anyone on this evening?
[00:18] <Shootmeplz> Hello?
[00:19] <Shootmeplz> I guess this is just another lame 'support' channel full of AFK people and bots....... Nice
[05:23] <xubundude> my fresh xubuntu 1004 install has been update now for 24 hours?
[05:23] <xubundude> i wonder if this has something to do with the fact that i installed it next to xp pro on its on separate partition?
[05:24] <xubundude> own*
[05:24] <xubundude> the bar graph continues to show that update is undeway and eery so often i look and something has installed successfully but geez 24 hours to do 198 updates?
[05:25] <ridin> xubundude: kernels? same problem here
[05:25] <xubundude> ah kernels, something i know lil to nothing about
[05:26] <xubundude> but i do have xubuntu on a stand alone computer..exact smae make model and hardware and it went in and run perfect everyday...but i have to admit that one i sxubuntu 9004
[05:27] <xubundude> and for me 9004 has always been perfectdid they do something weird to 1004?
[05:28] <xubundude> i have 2 identicals computers one love 9.04...and one is taking 24 hours to update?
[05:28] <xubundude> i dont know whete to assume someting is wrong and stop it or just let i go
[05:28] <ridin> if you're happy with what you have, you don't need to upgrade
[05:29] <ridin> if you can use a older kernel, maybe that would work
[05:29] <ridin> idk 9.10's kernel
[05:29] <xubundude> as i say i left my stand alone computer as is with 904
[05:29] <xubundude> it seems everything that they have done since 904 has been weird
[05:29] <ridin> eh
[05:30] <xubundude> i wonder they broke a near perfect os
[05:30] <xubundude> i have 2 identical dell 8250's
[05:30] <ridin> if you still have the 9.10 kernels, hold shift while booting
[05:30] <xubundude> one runes 904 perfect one is all screwed up with 1004
[05:30] <ridin> i'm using karmic too, lol
[05:31] <xubundude> how would i now if im using 910 kernals i dont even know what a kernal is hehe
[05:31] <ridin> i'll say core
[05:31] <ridin> you have multiple cores, and you're using one
[05:31] <xubundude> i never had 910
[05:31] <ridin> o
[05:31] <xubundude> i heard too many stories about it
[05:31] <ridin> you can't get the 9.10 kernels then, someone said
[05:32] <xubundude> when i noticed how good 904 was i made one dell 8250 a stand alone 904 computer and left it that way
[05:32] <xubundude> i thought they had 1004 down pat
[05:33] <ridin> it's just the kernel, not the actual os development
[05:33] <ridin> if that makes sense
[05:33] <xubundude> in fact im talking to u on a new laptop that is running ubuntu 1004 and it seems perfect
[05:33] <xubundude> well why are they using a faulty kernal
[05:33] <ridin> ubuntu 10.04 works fine, but xubuntu 10.04 isn't in internet connection?
[05:34] <xubundude> hmmm so maybe ill stop this update from hell, delete the xubuntu partiton and stick ubuntu 1004 there?
[05:34] <ridin> mmmm
[05:35] <ridin> i'd pick the ubuntu version right for you
[05:35] <ridin> like for me, karmic and distributions that are based on karmic
[05:35] <xubundude> i like all of em
[05:35] <ridin> lol
[05:35] <ridin> i like lucid and maverick, but internet speed omg
[05:36] <xubundude> until this bs happened
[05:36] <xubundude> so are u saying the kernal in 904 is different than the kernal in 1004?
[05:37] <ridin> mmmmmm
[05:37] <ridin> yes, how hardware is used
[05:37] <ridin> (quote from someone)
[05:37] <xubundude> bummer
[05:37] <xubundude> that means my other 8250 is gonna have 904 forever
[05:37] <xubundude> wonder if i can do that
[05:38] <xubundude> which is fine with me
[05:39] <ridin> it'll be 'end of life' by april 2011 i think
[05:39] <ridin> meaning it'll get no more updates
[05:39] <xubundude> i see that so iwonder what problems that causes
[05:40] <xubundude> bythen all the bugs are prolly gone, since i never had any to begin with in 904
[05:40] <ridin> lucid is an lts, usually a 'stable beta'
[05:40] <xubundude> hah
[05:40] <xubundude> thats wut i was hoping
[05:40] <xubundude> now i gotta reinstall ans find my ole 904 disk or something
[05:41] <xubundude> i wonder if im crazy tot hink that this 2 day update will eventually make the computer run peoperly
[05:41] <xubundude> whew typos...
[05:42] <ridin> he
[05:42] <xubundude> id have to be nuts not think its a sign that 1004 doesnt like the computer
[05:43] <xubundude> yet its still goin in
[05:43] <xubundude> i noticed on the update progress text it said..."that it noticed xp on dev/ something
[05:44] <xubundude> why is my update looking at a separate partition?
[05:44] <xubundude> just sort of letme know it sees it
[05:45] <xubundude> hmmmm
[05:45] <xubundude> maybe it doesnt like its partiton
[05:45] <xubundude> sure does boot nice though
[05:46] <xubundude> to each separate partition so i thought that was all cool
[06:17] <xubuntu851> hello every1
[08:08] <hhgyt> is it ok to have partitions set up like this: 1st one 15 gigs (xp pro), 2nd one 15 gigs (xubuntu 904), 2rd one 15 gigs( not in use yet), 4th one 2 gigg swap, 5th one 10 gigs ( not in use yet) ??? or does the swap partition have to be beside the last used partition???
[08:08] <hhgyt> ooops i said 2nd on twice....the 2nd 2nd is the 3rd
[08:10] <hhgyt> or can i just size these partitions any way i want?
[08:10] <Sysi> you can't have 5 primary partitions
[08:11] <hhgyt> o
[08:11] <Sysi> swap can be basically anywhere
[08:11] <hhgyt> ok
[08:11] <hhgyt> so its installing now so im gonna have a problem roght?
[08:11] <hhgyt> right?
[08:12] <Sysi> you can't create that fift partition
[08:12] <Sysi> unless you use logical partitions
[08:12] <hhgyt> ok so its running now...as i wrote it now what
[08:12] <hhgyt> what should i have done
[08:12] <hhgyt> i have a about 57 gig HD
[08:12] <hhgyt> i want xp and xubuntu on it
[08:13] <Sysi> patience..
[08:13] <hhgyt> maybe 30 1st....25 2nd....2 swap?
[08:14] <Sysi> !partitions
[08:14] <hhgyt> gotta run downstairs and see wut the install is doing now
[08:14] <hhgyt> thanks..i have read everything i can on partitions...still just dont get it
[08:15] <hhgyt> even watched videos
[08:15] <hhgyt> didnt see anything about bit having 5 partitions
[08:15] <hhgyt> i mean nothing said i cant have 5 partitions
[08:16] <hhgyt> be back....
[08:20] <Sysi> hhgyt: you can't have 5 *primary* partitions
[08:21] <Sysi> hhgyt: feature of msdos prtition table
[08:31] <hhgyt> ok u said that so now wuts gonna happen too me?
[08:31] <hhgyt> i did it already and now i restarted it and it offered me ubuntu or xp so i booted to xubuntu and now its in the process of doing 230 updates?
[08:32] <hhgyt> so can  goe back after all the updates and fix this pertition issue or am i porked?
[08:32] <Sysi> seems that prtitioning was succesfull, install updates and you should reboot after that
[08:33] <hhgyt> well since i built too many am i in for some kinda trouble?
[08:33] <Sysi> ubuntu don't let you make broken partitioning :P
[08:33] <hhgyt> oh great
[08:33] <Sysi> you don't have too many _primary_ partitions
[08:33] <hhgyt> and i used the partiton manager in xubuntu?
[08:33] <hhgyt> oh ok
[08:33] <Sysi> it's not possible to create
[08:33] <hhgyt> so u think i might be ok
[08:33] <hhgyt> whew
[08:33] <hhgyt> scarin me dude
[08:33] <Sysi> enjoy your xubuntu :)
[08:34] <hhgyt> well i had to delete the partiton with 1004 on it cos it wouldnt update
[08:34] <hhgyt> so i decided to toss 904 in there
[08:34] <hhgyt> cos all my 904 installs work perfect
[08:34] <Sysi> !9.04
[08:35] <hhgyt> i guess 904 likes old dell desktops?
[08:35] <Sysi> when's the end of life..
[08:35] <hhgyt> soon i think
[08:35] <hhgyt> but really wut else can i do...mt old dells hate 1004?
[08:36] <hhgyt> i waited 2 days while 1004 was updating then it just stopped?
[08:36] <hhgyt> the updates were doing a bunch of really odd things...made no sence?
[08:36] <hhgyt> now this 904 says its gonna be done updating in like 7 minutes?
[08:37] <hhgyt> hah we'll see if my ole tank can do 230 updates in 7 minutes
[08:38] <hhgyt> i mean i know i can lay down and just do the wubi/ubuntu thing and it does seem to work great but i couldnt  find one of those wubi installers for xubuntu.
[08:39] <Sysi> wubi should work as well with xubuntu
[08:39] <Sysi> how did 10.04 update fail?
[08:39] <Sysi> just stopped?
[08:40] <hhgyt> well it appeared to install on my partiton perfect and i navigated around in it  and all was well..then i let it update!!!
[08:40] <Sysi> did you mean installing updates after installation, or version upgrade?
[08:40] <Sysi> oh right
[08:40] <hhgyt> so hours later its still updating
[08:40] <hhgyt> till i finally had to sleep
[08:40] <hhgyt> and go  to work...
[08:41] <hhgyt> and come and watch it still updating...
[08:41] <hhgyt> ona nd on for 24 hours
[08:41] <hhgyt> then it stops...
[08:41] <Sysi> you didn't try to restart update-manager?
[08:41] <hhgyt> and i was reading all the stupid things it said it was doing....
[08:41] <hhgyt> i gotta tell whoever wrote that was smokin reefer
[08:42] <hhgyt> it seemed to think it had to uninstall and install and uninstall every freakin thing on earth?
[08:42] <Sysi> version update does that
[08:42] <hhgyt> i dunno
[08:42] <Sysi> and it can cause problems
[08:42] <hhgyt> hwat ever comes in with 10.04
[08:43] <Sysi> well, you can use 9.04 as long as it's supported
[08:43] <hhgyt> it said i need all the important security updates so i said....hey who am i to doubt to great coders at xubuntu!
[08:44] <hhgyt> sheez it was the dummest thing ive ever seen
[08:44] <hhgyt> so sysi...can i bask in the glow of 904 forever?
[08:44] <hhgyt> or will it suddently just die
[08:44] <Sysi> repositories go down at some point
[08:45] <Sysi> 10.10 is out pretty soon
[08:45] <hhgyt> so wut does that mean? it just quits on me?
[08:45] <hhgyt> i need 904!
[08:45] <hhgyt> it loves old dells...especially 8250
[08:45] <Sysi> you won't get updates and you can't install anything
[08:46] <hhgyt> install wut?
[08:46] <Sysi> anything
[08:46] <hhgyt> u mean i cant even install all the stuff they already invented for it?
[08:46] <Sysi> software, artwork, anything from repositories
[08:47] <hhgyt> ok so when support for 904 ends...i cannot go into the normal xubuntu synaptic manager and install something?
[08:47] <Sysi> that
[08:48] <hhgyt> did u mean yes
[08:48] <hhgyt> so i better install everything on earth now?
[08:48] <hhgyt> brb gotta see if its really still updating
[08:48] <Sysi> no, better get newer version with security updates working
[09:29] <hhgyt> well i did it
[09:30] <hhgyt> mt dual boot works and it took in 23o updates in like 7-8 minutes
[09:30] <hhgyt> and it runs extremely fast on 512 ram
[09:31] <hhgyt> so it really was the 10.04 edition messin me up
[09:32] <Sysi> what are you talking about?
[09:32] <hhgyt> same subject i was talkin bout before...i just went downstairs to check if the computer was done updating
[09:39] <hhgyt> i suppose it is possible that some bizzare thing happened by chance that caused my 10,04 updates to crash and maybe it wouldnt happen if i tried it again.
[12:24] <nikolam> mousepad again refusing to close right away if not saving text in it.
[12:25] <nikolam> I reported bug months ago and responce was they can't reproduce it..
[12:40] <TheSheep> nikolam: you think they are lying?
[12:41] <nikolam> TheSheep, no, I just I am not sure other think I am lying. ;)
[12:53] <TheSheep> nikolam: apparently the bug only manifests in certain conditions that are present on your system, but not on the default install. If you could isolate those conditions, you could amend your bug report and provide a way to reproduce the bug.
[15:28] <srudes2> Hello all!
[15:29] <srudes2> I would like to know how to prevent the xfce4 from starting as well as the login window. I just want my tty7 just like my tty6. However I do want to be able to start xfce4. Any idea
[15:29] <srudes2> s on how to set this up?
[15:45] <verme94> hi
[15:45] <srudes2> Hey
[15:46] <verme94> i udate ubiquiti in xubuntu 8.04.1
[15:46] <verme94> update*
[15:47] <verme94> bye
[15:48] <xGrind> \o
[15:49] <srudes2> It would be greatly appreciated if someone would look into my problem.
[15:50]  * Sysi is staring
[15:50] <Sysi> can't say a thing about it though
[15:50] <Sysi> remove gdm?
[15:51] <srudes2> tried that... no success
[15:51] <srudes2> thanks for looking though
[15:51] <likemindead> Why not use a minimal Ubuntu server install with no GUI?
[15:53] <Sysi> srudes2: what part didn't work
[15:53] <Sysi> i maybe would like to know *why* :P
[15:54] <schlaftier> also, there's a boot option you can use to boot into text-mode (if you don't want to remove gdm)
[15:56] <srudes2> Sysi: if I use bum or sysv-rc-conf it doesn list gdm and if I use update-rc it says that it has updated all the entries, but when I restart it it still starts everything
[15:57] <Sysi> srudes2: apt-get remove gdm :)
[15:57] <Sysi> you don't necessarily need it
[16:03] <srudes2> I removed gdm... didn´t look for that result... reinstalled xubuntu-desktop. I´m now looking into the grub single boot option schlaftier mentioned
[16:05] <schlaftier> srudes2: no, not single-user boot
[16:06] <srudes2> http://www.gidforums.com/t-1472.html huh?
[16:08] <schlaftier> srudes2: the option is "text" http://ubuntuguide.net/boot-into-consolecommand-line-when-startup-ubuntu-9-10
[16:08] <srudes2> alright... thanks schlaftier!
[16:14] <srudes2> haha how can even that not work when I try that
[16:16] <srudes2> simply: sudo mousepad /etc/default/grub                           add ¨text¨ to the grub_cmdline_linux_default            and then just do sudo update-grub it asks me if it should create a menu.lst file I tell it to do that and still gdm and xfce-desktop start at boot
[16:16] <srudes2> wow this is a pain
[16:25] <srudes2> I even did a update-rc.d -f gdm remove, update-rc.d -f xdm remove, update-rc.d -f kdm remove             to make sure that the services are disabled at startup... I still get a desktop environment... which looks like a really old version of xfce4
[16:55] <srudes2> Woho I got it working
[16:55] <srudes2> finally
[16:55] <srudes2> it
[16:55] <srudes2> s very simple
[16:55] <srudes2> simply move the gdm configuration file
[16:55] <srudes2> mv /etc/init/gdm.conf /etc/init/gdm.conf.noexec
[16:56] <srudes2> lol
[16:56] <srudes2> cya
[19:14] <slow-motion> re
[20:38]  * dreamtraveler is away: -s (gone at 7th Sep, 22:38:07)
[20:39] <Sysi> public away and awaynick won't make you popular
[20:39] <charlie-tca> !away > dreamtravel`away
[21:26] <Ileden> Hi! How do I turn off the xfce power manager? Problem is, my battery reports constant 0%, so whenever i disconnect power cord, I get an annoying dialog about low power...
[21:33] <charlie-tca> !away > tech
[21:33] <charlie-tca> !away > _Techie_
[21:34] <_Techie_> charlie-tca: ffs, i dont change that often
[21:35] <Sysi> i've seen you doing that before, you do :P
[21:35] <charlie-tca> It is "change at all"
[21:35] <charlie-tca> It does not mention how often
[21:35] <_Techie_> so you guys dont like people clearly knowing that im away or offline
[21:36] <charlie-tca> You can use a silent away, which is / away without the space. Then if someone checks, your nick is tagged as you being away
[21:36] <charlie-tca> There is also the thing called "close the im when away" so no one thinks you are online
[21:36] <_Techie_> charlie-tca: how many people check for /away on a regular basis... i know i dont... also freenode webchat doesnt display away status with colours in the nick list
[21:37] <charlie-tca> it is a rule, though
[21:37] <_Techie_> well then, i dont see me providing any help to Xubuntu users in the future then
[21:38] <charlie-tca> okay
[21:38] <_Techie_> goodbye Sysi, been nice working with you in the past
[21:38] <charlie-tca> um, that rule does apply in all Ubuntu/Xubuntu/Kubuntu channels
[21:39] <Sysi> in all irc
[21:39] <Sysi> but well..
[21:39] <charlie-tca> agreed
[21:39] <charlie-tca> Sysi: don't you ever sleep? You are in here helping day and night!
[21:40] <Sysi> i have laptop at school :P
[21:48] <slow-motion> n8
[22:11] <emerson> hi how do I install all the plugins for vlc ?
[22:12] <emerson> ?
[22:13] <well_laid_lawn> in the synaptic package manager do a search for vlc and select all the plugins
[22:19] <emerson> well_laid_lawn: I hope I can solve my problem now..cheers man..
[22:19] <well_laid_lawn> np :]
[22:20] <mancio82> Ciao a tutti!
[22:20] <mancio82> Hello!
[22:21] <Sysi> !hi
[22:22] <Sysi> !it | if you need italian help
[22:22] <mancio82> In XFCE menu, how do to set icon button to "none"?
[22:25] <charlie-tca> Applications -> Settings -> Xfce4 Settings Manager -> Appearance, Settings tab
[22:26] <charlie-tca> mancio82: ^
[22:27] <mancio82> Sorry, you don't understand my question
[22:27] <emerson> well_laid_lawn: look sorry to bother you again but I have a film in .avi and doesn't work..I mean stil doesn't work..any ideia why ?
[22:28] <mancio82> How hide xfce menu icon button?
[22:28] <charlie-tca> the mouse itself?
[22:28] <well_laid_lawn> emerson:  first thing is the file ok? - you've played it before?
[22:29] <Sysi> is avi patented, does it need restricted codec?
[22:29] <charlie-tca> mancio82: The whole applications menu or just the mouse?
[22:29] <Sysi> mancio82: do you mean you want icon for menu in panel away?
[22:29] <well_laid_lawn> emerson:  my avi's play after I install xubuntu-restricted-extras
[22:29] <emerson> well_laid_lawn: well before was okay but how do I know whether the files is good or not ?
[22:30] <charlie-tca> Sysi: asking in two channels or more at once
[22:30] <mancio82> I want hide icon in application menu
[22:30] <charlie-tca> May as well ignore this one
[22:30] <well_laid_lawn> emerson:  start the movie player from a terminal so you get some errors mentioned
[22:30] <mancio82> I want see only label
[22:32] <well_laid_lawn> mancio82:  so you want no icons in the menu at all?
[22:32] <mancio82> I want show icons in the menu
[22:33] <mancio82> I want no show icon only on Application button
[22:33] <well_laid_lawn> k
[22:33] <Sysi> just right click, there's button
[22:33] <Sysi> *tap
[22:34] <Sysi> or well. popup menu → settings → tap
[22:35] <mancio82> where's tap?
[22:37] <Sysi> under under field fore setting label
[22:38] <Sysi> oh wait, it's other way round
[22:38] <Sysi> time to sleep maybe..
[23:15]  * dreamtraveler is away: Auto-away after 30 mins idle (gone at 8th Sep, 01:15:32)
[23:15] <knome> dreamtravele`afk, please
[23:16] <charlie-tca> dreamtravele`afk was warned already today
[23:16] <knome> i saw that
[23:16] <charlie-tca> Hello, knome
[23:16] <knome> hey charlie-tca
[23:17] <charlie-tca> enjoying the anniversary?
[23:17] <knome> wife is sleeping already
[23:17] <knome> but yeah, had a nice time
[23:17] <charlie-tca> well... Had fun already then.
[23:18] <charlie-tca> congrats
[23:18] <knome> thanks :)
[23:18] <knome> didn't he quit after telling him to stop the last time?
[23:18] <charlie-tca> Well, that was better than the last one
[23:18] <charlie-tca> No, that was the other one
[23:19] <charlie-tca> hmm, _Technie_ , I think
[23:19] <knome> hmm
[23:32] <charlie-tca> Works for me