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blasenmichI had one problem00:15
blasenmichwhen I pointed the grub at the new kernel, it didn't come back with the exact same confirmation lines as your text.... no errors though is that a problem?00:16
seidoshow do i select objects in gimp?  i keep creating new text objects, instead of selecting the object that i want to modify.00:41
seidosoh, i guess i have to select the layer, then the text object00:44
stlsaintseidos: have i ever told you that youtube is awesome?!;00:44
seidosi guess those other text objects are just not really existent00:44
seidosstlsaint, is there an answer to my gimp question on there?00:44
seidosstlsaint, i mean, i agree with you.  but why are you bringing it up?00:44
stlsaintseidos: yes00:44
seidosstlsaint, thanks for the tip.00:45
stlsaint:D00:45
seidostips hurt00:45
stlsaintseidos: what doesnt kill you makes you stronger :D00:46
seidosstlsaint, we are all dying slowly.00:46
stlsaintseidos: but while we are here we have youtube :D00:48
stlsaintseidos: better yet we have gimp on youtube :D00:48
seidosstlsaint, true.  but while we are all dying slowly, what isn't killing us that is making us stronger?00:49
stlsainttips00:51
seidosi guess it depends how you define strength :)00:51
seidosbut maybe it depends.  maybe tips don't have to hurt.  i guess it depends on how they are inserted.  some medical personnel are better with injections than others.00:53
tenachHow do you find what version Xorg is?04:20
paultagtenach: Xorg -version04:23
paultagBBL04:23
tenachthanks paultag04:23
tenach:(04:24
paultag<3 tenach04:24
paultagBBL for realsie04:24
seidosanyone have any ideas why my usb flash drive isn't mounting?04:42
aveilleuxseidos: Have you tried mounting it manually?04:44
seidosaveilleux, no, not sure what the device name should be04:44
seidosaveilleux, it's just mount devicename, right?04:44
aveilleuxseidos: you have to make a mount point directory, so sudo mkdir /media/usb04:45
aveilleuxseidos: Then sudo mount /dev/<devicename/partition_number> /media/usb04:45
seidosah lsusb to get the device name04:45
seidoshmm, no, that doesn't seem to work04:46
aveilleuxseidos: what error do you get?04:46
seidosaveilleux, i don't know where to get the devicename/partition_number04:47
aveilleuxseidos: How many internal hard drives do you have?04:47
seidosjust one04:47
seidosi have my ipod/DAP connected too04:47
aveilleuxseidos: actually, can you pastebin the output of: ls /dev/sd* ?04:48
seidosaveilleux, http://paste.ubuntu.com/490156/04:49
aveilleuxseidos: You have two partitions on your Flash drive?04:49
seidosaveilleux, not that i know of04:49
seidosmaybe i should start gparted up04:49
aveilleuxseidos: Is it a U3 drive?04:50
seidosaveilleux, yeah04:50
aveilleuxseidos: AH! That would explain it. U3 drives have two partitions on them.04:51
seidosit's miraculously showing up in gparted now04:52
seidosaveilleux, after i unplugged it to check if it was a u3 drive04:52
aveilleuxseidos: sudo mkdir /media/usb && sudo mount /dev/sdb2 /media/usb04:52
seidosin gparted it is listed as /dev/sdc104:52
aveilleuxseidos: Oh, is it something else?04:52
aveilleuxHmmm, I was wondering why there were only two drives.04:53
seidosah sdb1 and sdb2?04:53
seidosi wonder if i could just make it one.04:53
aveilleuxseidos: No. sda* and sdb*04:53
seidossdb is my ipod/DAP04:53
aveilleuxseidos: I figured, but I saw no other drives04:54
seidoswell sdb1 and sdb2?04:54
seidoser, no04:54
seidosi guess that's all my DAP04:54
seidosi just looked at gparted, and the flash is listed as /dev/sdc104:55
aveilleuxseidos: the drive format is sd + X + N , where X is a letter and designates the physical drive, and N is a number and designates the partition04:55
seidosaveilleux, sorry, i didn't understand the designations until now.  thanks.04:55
aveilleuxseidos: If it's an IDE drive, it's hdXN04:55
aveilleuxseidos: I believe...04:56
seidosaveilleux, it's SATA i'm pretty sure...not sure if linux treats that as "ide".  i guess not.04:56
aveilleuxseidos: No, SATA is read as SCSI, which is where the s comes from. SD = SCSI Drive04:57
seidosaveilleux, well, looks like mount wouldn't have worked anyway.  because only now /dev/sdc and /dev/sdc1 are showing up04:57
aveilleuxThough it could really be changed to SATA because they have the same first letter :P04:57
aveilleuxseidos: Well give it a shot with sdc104:57
seidosaveilleux, it is already mounted as CRUZER04:58
aveilleuxseidos: So it was just not plugged in properly. Problem solved :304:58
seidosaveilleux, i guess, but the drive lights up O_o04:58
seidosmaybe the drive is faulty04:58
seidoswell thanks, at least i got a lesson in ls /dev/sd*04:59
seidosand the scsi ide thing04:59
aveilleuxseidos: Indeed04:59
seidosarg, now making the usb flash drive a start up disk isn't working05:14
seidoshmmm, maybe it doesn't work if the flash drive is formatted with ext205:15
seidosthat seems to have been the problem O_O05:20
seidosi was trying to do tar -t backup-10.09.tar to list the contents of the file in a terminal, but it would just sit there05:32
hooberhello06:09
hooberi am the ultimate hack god master of the internet. however how do i run a .bundle extension file so it install on my 64 bit ubuntu06:10
hooberi want to install the infamous vm player06:10
uchobbyHelp! my Ubuntu box does not boot now. Some recent update I'm guessing.. I can boot from CD, I ran disk test, all OK, constantly restarts wtih error "Init:ureadahead main process (343) terminate with status 127" what should I do now?07:50
seidosuchobby, when does the error happen?  before xorg starts?07:52
uchobbyat boot07:52
uchobbybefore I see anything07:52
uchobbywell I see the PC logo screen then when the boot process starts, that error then it restarts again07:52
seidosuchobby, well, you can try reinstalling from cd, without repartitioning/formatting.07:53
uchobbythat would not remove what I have?07:54
seidosuchobby, i can't think of anything else.  i don't know if there is a failsafe option in grub for your installation.07:54
seidosuchobby, well, your /home/username directory will stay intact07:55
* uchobby nods07:55
seidosuchobby, do you have anything in any other directories you want backed up?07:55
seidosuchobby, i'm not sure if it will work, but did you try accessing your local harddisk from the live cd?07:55
uchobbyI was able to back up my home directory with the boot CD07:55
uchobbyyes07:55
uchobbyand I had not trouble accessing the disk07:55
uchobbyI ran a full disk check with no errors as well07:56
seidosuchobby, oh, then at least your data isn't an issue.07:56
seidosuchobby, well, reinstalling will hopefully fix it.  i'm not sure how to make it work without reinstalling, unfortunately.07:56
uchobbywell all the stuff I did to get Ubuntu working and software installed etc..07:56
seidosuchobby, you might want to back up you /var/log folder?  if you want to try to get some info on what might have caused the problem.07:56
* uchobby nods07:57
seidosuchobby, you can try hitting the shift key when grub is starting, see if it might be a problem with a new kernel?07:57
seidosbefore installing from livecd that is.07:57
uchobbyI got the grub menu! Progress07:59
uchobbyrecovery mode maybe?07:59
seidosuchobby, you can try recovery mode, and booting a different kernel?07:59
seidos!tab | uchobby07:59
uchobbyso try the latest version in recovery first08:00
uchobby?08:00
seidoser, uchobby you can use your "tab key" to complete my nick.  just type "se <tab>" and it should auto complete, that way the window alerts me when you are telling me something08:00
uchobbyif that fails, something up with the kernel update, try the older one, maybe in recovery?08:00
seidosuchobby, right08:01
uchobbyseidos, OK08:01
uchobbyseidos, I tried recover mode boot on both versions and normal boot on the older, all result in the same error08:04
uchobbyas described, no change08:04
seidosuchobby, hmmm, well it might not be an issue with the kernel per se08:06
uchobbysomething wrong with HD I guess seidos08:06
uchobbyI'm giving up for the night, thank you for the help seidos08:08
seidosuchobby, try installing.  only way you'll know if it's the HD.  good luck, and good night.08:09
uchobbythank you seidos08:10
praktykantHey all. I would appreciate if some1 could tell me how to check what compiler flags where used when I installed (i.e. nagios) through apt-get install.08:39
seidospraktykant, whoa, i have no idea.  i'm not even sure if this will help, but you can download the source for nagios and try compiling it yourself?08:42
seidospraktykant, are you using the nagios3 package?08:44
praktykantI`ve manage to get it running on ubuntu on test network and now need to get it done on slackware but the point is that the admin wants as minimalistic the system as it can be.09:37
Silver_Fox_Hello.10:02
duanedesignhello Silver_Fox_11:47
Silver_Fox_Hello duanedesign . How are you ?11:47
Puck`this looks greaT: http://www.turnkeylinux.org/blog/announcing-tklbam13:08
uRockIf there is a grub pro in the house, this guy needs some specialty care, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9820872#post982087216:01
Mohan_chmlubot2: tell him to update grub16:09
ubot2Mohan_chml: Error: I haven't seen him, I'll let you do the telling.16:09
ubot2Mohan_chml: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)16:09
Mohan_chmlawww16:09
Mohan_chmluRock: I told him to update16:10
uRockcool, I didn't know that worked with wubi, thanx16:12
Mohan_chmluRock: lets see what happens if he update16:17
uRockMohan_chml, yup16:19
Mohan_chmlsup uRock ?16:19
uRocknot much, getting my little one ready 4 school16:20
Mohan_chmlah. okay!16:21
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Mohan_chmluRock: I think people don't respond to a thread if they find their problem solver18:15
Mohan_chmlL.18:15
Mohan_chml:/18:15
Silver_Fox_That is how it generally goes Mohan_chml . You will get use to it18:16
Mohan_chmlSilver_Fox_: but people must be aware that people will use the forums in the future and they must say that their problem is solver so that the thread will be meaningful18:17
Mohan_chmlerr solved*18:18
uRockMohan_chml, I figured there would be more questions from the OP.18:23
uRockat the same time, if he/she is playing with Back|Track, then I would hope that the simple stuff would be easy18:23
Mohan_chmlyeah! coz backtrack is a nice OS to learn ethical hacking (:18:24
Silver_Fox_Godbye18:24
uRocklol, it is a piece of work that takes more than entry level knowledge to use18:25
uRockI gave it a whirl a while back and even with learning a bit about network forensics, that OS is still beyond me18:26
Mohan_chml:o18:40
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sebsebsebHi19:19
sick_foxhi19:22
Mohan_chmlhey guys! hows life?19:24
sick_foxstill alive19:24
sick_fox:)19:24
sick_foxwhat about U19:24
Mohan_chmlsick_fox: dead before 4 hours :(19:25
sick_foxMohan_chml :( but now alive I hope19:26
Mohan_chmlidk19:26
sick_foxidk stands for ?19:27
Mohan_chmlI dont know19:29
hobgoblinthen why say it ;)19:30
sick_foxR U using Ubuntu?19:30
Mohan_chmlhello hobgoblin :)19:33
hobgoblinhi Mohan_chml19:33
Mohan_chmlsick_fox: I am not using ubuntu19:33
Mohan_chmlhows life hobgoblin ?19:33
hobgoblinsame old19:33
Mohan_chmlchildren?19:33
sick_foxtoo yuing for them19:34
sick_fox*young19:34
hobgoblinMohan_chml: they are good - at least I assume the eldest two are anyway19:34
hobgoblinsick_fox: what do you mean?19:34
sick_foxI m too young for children19:34
sick_fox:)19:34
hobgoblinoic :)19:34
hobgoblinsick_fox: so - are you after help with something ?19:37
sick_foxhobgoblin yes I am - I wanted to register my nick, I ve done it now19:37
sick_foxThanks with help to all19:37
hobgoblinaah - k19:38
sick_foxhobgoblin yes k (they say sometimes)19:39
sick_foxhobgoblin but thats an opinion19:39
hobgoblinmany things are19:40
sick_fox:)19:40
Mohan_chmlNight all (:19:49
sick_foxwhat is the time in your room? ;-)19:51
hobgoblinsick_fox: http://time.is/UTC19:54
sick_foxhobgoblin I too lazy to click it19:56
sick_foxi'm19:56
hobgoblinwell do date -u in a terminal - it'll be the same19:58
sick_foxhobgoblin and U know what? I have a question - is there a soft for packaging java program to deb package? I mean something you click and then it is autmatically installed19:58
hobgoblinto install java?19:58
hobgoblinor create a .deb ?19:58
sick_foxI have several java class files and I wanna create a deb19:58
sick_foxto distribute the program nicely19:59
hobgoblinno idea I'm afraid19:59
sick_foxhobgoblin doesnt matter - it was just a question20:00
hobgoblinthere's a howto here http://tldp.org/HOWTO/html_single/Debian-Binary-Package-Building-HOWTO/20:00
hobgoblinanyway - enough for me20:00
sick_foxthanks I ll read it later20:02
sick_foxmaybe it could help me20:02
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linutI have a problem with Ubuntu Tweak in Karmic23:12
linutI took out and reinstalled23:12
linutno good still23:13
linutany ideas?23:13
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seidoslinut, i'm not ignoring you, i've just never used ubuntu tweak23:36
hihihi100hi, can u heko with sound problems?23:37
seidoshihihi100, what's the problem?23:38
hihihi100weiil i am trying to get a midi piano player to work, to not avail so far23:38
hihihi100i recently installed some ALSA packages, I believe thats when my probkem started23:38
seidoshihihi100, oh goodness, that sounds complicated.23:38
hihihi100colume is always shown as muted23:39
hihihi100volume*23:39
seidoshihihi100, don't you need a driver for your midi piano?  you want to be able to play you keyboard and hear the sound from your computers speakers?23:39
seidoshihihi100, how are you connecting the midi piano to the computer?23:39
hihihi100right, thats what I want, I have downloaded alsa-driver-1.0.23, but I dont know what t type in the terminal to actually install it23:40
hihihi100no, not an "external" midi piano, I use virtual midi piano keyboard23:40
seidoshihihi100, i don't know what a 'virtual' midi piano is.  but i am intrigued.23:41
harrisonkanyone here use usbmodeswich?23:42
hihihi100i have been following the instructions found at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=658981023:42
seidoshihihi100, i've never seen this how to before.  and honestly, i don't know what you are trying to accomplish.23:44
hihihi100the aim is to use the key of my keyboard as if they were the keys of a piano23:44
hihihi100actually the software can be found in the repositories23:44
seidoshihihi100, ohhhh23:44
seidoshihihi100, there was another how to a friend found, but i couldn't get jackd working.  let me see if i can find a link for you23:45
hihihi100jack, yeah, dor some reason i also downloaded that23:46
hihihi100for23:46
seidoshihihi100, try these instructions:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=100346623:47
seidoshihihi100, messing with alsa is probably way too complicated if you're starting out.23:47
hihihi100looks good23:48
seidoshihihi100, if you're like me, and don't have luck, you can try this out:  http://www.virtualpiano.net/23:50
harrisonkis there any way to switch desktop evironments without using the gdm?23:51
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seidoswhat does gdm have to do with switching desktop environments?23:55
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harrisonkor the login screen utillity23:55
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harrisonkalso is anyone here good at reading syslog files?23:58
harrisonkhttp://pastebin.ubuntu.com/489914/23:58
seidosharrisonk, well the login screen gives you options to select a different environment.  what environment are you trying to select?23:58

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