[00:15] <blasenmich> I had one problem
[00:16] <blasenmich> when I pointed the grub at the new kernel, it didn't come back with the exact same confirmation lines as your text.... no errors though is that a problem?
[00:41] <seidos> how do i select objects in gimp?  i keep creating new text objects, instead of selecting the object that i want to modify.
[00:44] <seidos> oh, i guess i have to select the layer, then the text object
[00:44] <stlsaint> seidos: have i ever told you that youtube is awesome?!;
[00:44] <seidos> i guess those other text objects are just not really existent
[00:44] <seidos> stlsaint, is there an answer to my gimp question on there?
[00:44] <seidos> stlsaint, i mean, i agree with you.  but why are you bringing it up?
[00:44] <stlsaint> seidos: yes
[00:45] <seidos> stlsaint, thanks for the tip.
[00:45] <stlsaint> :D
[00:45] <seidos> tips hurt
[00:46] <stlsaint> seidos: what doesnt kill you makes you stronger :D
[00:46] <seidos> stlsaint, we are all dying slowly.
[00:48] <stlsaint> seidos: but while we are here we have youtube :D
[00:48] <stlsaint> seidos: better yet we have gimp on youtube :D
[00:49] <seidos> stlsaint, true.  but while we are all dying slowly, what isn't killing us that is making us stronger?
[00:51] <stlsaint> tips
[00:51] <seidos> i guess it depends how you define strength :)
[00:53] <seidos> but maybe it depends.  maybe tips don't have to hurt.  i guess it depends on how they are inserted.  some medical personnel are better with injections than others.
[04:20] <tenach> How do you find what version Xorg is?
[04:23] <paultag> tenach: Xorg -version
[04:23] <paultag> BBL
[04:23] <tenach> thanks paultag
[04:24] <tenach> :(
[04:24] <paultag> <3 tenach
[04:24] <paultag> BBL for realsie
[04:42] <seidos> anyone have any ideas why my usb flash drive isn't mounting?
[04:44] <aveilleux> seidos: Have you tried mounting it manually?
[04:44] <seidos> aveilleux, no, not sure what the device name should be
[04:44] <seidos> aveilleux, it's just mount devicename, right?
[04:45] <aveilleux> seidos: you have to make a mount point directory, so sudo mkdir /media/usb
[04:45] <aveilleux> seidos: Then sudo mount /dev/<devicename/partition_number> /media/usb
[04:45] <seidos> ah lsusb to get the device name
[04:46] <seidos> hmm, no, that doesn't seem to work
[04:46] <aveilleux> seidos: what error do you get?
[04:47] <seidos> aveilleux, i don't know where to get the devicename/partition_number
[04:47] <aveilleux> seidos: How many internal hard drives do you have?
[04:47] <seidos> just one
[04:47] <seidos> i have my ipod/DAP connected too
[04:48] <aveilleux> seidos: actually, can you pastebin the output of: ls /dev/sd* ?
[04:49] <seidos> aveilleux, http://paste.ubuntu.com/490156/
[04:49] <aveilleux> seidos: You have two partitions on your Flash drive?
[04:49] <seidos> aveilleux, not that i know of
[04:49] <seidos> maybe i should start gparted up
[04:50] <aveilleux> seidos: Is it a U3 drive?
[04:50] <seidos> aveilleux, yeah
[04:51] <aveilleux> seidos: AH! That would explain it. U3 drives have two partitions on them.
[04:52] <seidos> it's miraculously showing up in gparted now
[04:52] <seidos> aveilleux, after i unplugged it to check if it was a u3 drive
[04:52] <aveilleux> seidos: sudo mkdir /media/usb && sudo mount /dev/sdb2 /media/usb
[04:52] <seidos> in gparted it is listed as /dev/sdc1
[04:52] <aveilleux> seidos: Oh, is it something else?
[04:53] <aveilleux> Hmmm, I was wondering why there were only two drives.
[04:53] <seidos> ah sdb1 and sdb2?
[04:53] <seidos> i wonder if i could just make it one.
[04:53] <aveilleux> seidos: No. sda* and sdb*
[04:53] <seidos> sdb is my ipod/DAP
[04:54] <aveilleux> seidos: I figured, but I saw no other drives
[04:54] <seidos> well sdb1 and sdb2?
[04:54] <seidos> er, no
[04:54] <seidos> i guess that's all my DAP
[04:55] <seidos> i just looked at gparted, and the flash is listed as /dev/sdc1
[04:55] <aveilleux> seidos: the drive format is sd + X + N , where X is a letter and designates the physical drive, and N is a number and designates the partition
[04:55] <seidos> aveilleux, sorry, i didn't understand the designations until now.  thanks.
[04:55] <aveilleux> seidos: If it's an IDE drive, it's hdXN
[04:56] <aveilleux> seidos: I believe...
[04:56] <seidos> aveilleux, it's SATA i'm pretty sure...not sure if linux treats that as "ide".  i guess not.
[04:57] <aveilleux> seidos: No, SATA is read as SCSI, which is where the s comes from. SD = SCSI Drive
[04:57] <seidos> aveilleux, well, looks like mount wouldn't have worked anyway.  because only now /dev/sdc and /dev/sdc1 are showing up
[04:57] <aveilleux> Though it could really be changed to SATA because they have the same first letter :P
[04:57] <aveilleux> seidos: Well give it a shot with sdc1
[04:58] <seidos> aveilleux, it is already mounted as CRUZER
[04:58] <aveilleux> seidos: So it was just not plugged in properly. Problem solved :3
[04:58] <seidos> aveilleux, i guess, but the drive lights up O_o
[04:58] <seidos> maybe the drive is faulty
[04:59] <seidos> well thanks, at least i got a lesson in ls /dev/sd*
[04:59] <seidos> and the scsi ide thing
[04:59] <aveilleux> seidos: Indeed
[05:14] <seidos> arg, now making the usb flash drive a start up disk isn't working
[05:15] <seidos> hmmm, maybe it doesn't work if the flash drive is formatted with ext2
[05:20] <seidos> that seems to have been the problem O_O
[05:32] <seidos> i was trying to do tar -t backup-10.09.tar to list the contents of the file in a terminal, but it would just sit there
[06:09] <hoober> hello
[06:10] <hoober> i am the ultimate hack god master of the internet. however how do i run a .bundle extension file so it install on my 64 bit ubuntu
[06:10] <hoober> i want to install the infamous vm player
[07:50] <uchobby> Help! my Ubuntu box does not boot now. Some recent update I'm guessing.. I can boot from CD, I ran disk test, all OK, constantly restarts wtih error "Init:ureadahead main process (343) terminate with status 127" what should I do now?
[07:52] <seidos> uchobby, when does the error happen?  before xorg starts?
[07:52] <uchobby> at boot
[07:52] <uchobby> before I see anything
[07:52] <uchobby> well I see the PC logo screen then when the boot process starts, that error then it restarts again
[07:53] <seidos> uchobby, well, you can try reinstalling from cd, without repartitioning/formatting.
[07:54] <uchobby> that would not remove what I have?
[07:54] <seidos> uchobby, i can't think of anything else.  i don't know if there is a failsafe option in grub for your installation.
[07:55] <seidos> uchobby, well, your /home/username directory will stay intact
[07:55]  * uchobby nods
[07:55] <seidos> uchobby, do you have anything in any other directories you want backed up?
[07:55] <seidos> uchobby, i'm not sure if it will work, but did you try accessing your local harddisk from the live cd?
[07:55] <uchobby> I was able to back up my home directory with the boot CD
[07:55] <uchobby> yes
[07:55] <uchobby> and I had not trouble accessing the disk
[07:56] <uchobby> I ran a full disk check with no errors as well
[07:56] <seidos> uchobby, oh, then at least your data isn't an issue.
[07:56] <seidos> uchobby, well, reinstalling will hopefully fix it.  i'm not sure how to make it work without reinstalling, unfortunately.
[07:56] <uchobby> well all the stuff I did to get Ubuntu working and software installed etc..
[07:56] <seidos> uchobby, you might want to back up you /var/log folder?  if you want to try to get some info on what might have caused the problem.
[07:57]  * uchobby nods
[07:57] <seidos> uchobby, you can try hitting the shift key when grub is starting, see if it might be a problem with a new kernel?
[07:57] <seidos> before installing from livecd that is.
[07:59] <uchobby> I got the grub menu! Progress
[07:59] <uchobby> recovery mode maybe?
[07:59] <seidos> uchobby, you can try recovery mode, and booting a different kernel?
[07:59] <seidos> !tab | uchobby
[08:00] <uchobby> so try the latest version in recovery first
[08:00] <uchobby> ?
[08:00] <seidos> er, uchobby you can use your "tab key" to complete my nick.  just type "se <tab>" and it should auto complete, that way the window alerts me when you are telling me something
[08:00] <uchobby> if that fails, something up with the kernel update, try the older one, maybe in recovery?
[08:01] <seidos> uchobby, right
[08:01] <uchobby> seidos, OK
[08:04] <uchobby> seidos, I tried recover mode boot on both versions and normal boot on the older, all result in the same error
[08:04] <uchobby> as described, no change
[08:06] <seidos> uchobby, hmmm, well it might not be an issue with the kernel per se
[08:06] <uchobby> something wrong with HD I guess seidos
[08:08] <uchobby> I'm giving up for the night, thank you for the help seidos
[08:09] <seidos> uchobby, try installing.  only way you'll know if it's the HD.  good luck, and good night.
[08:10] <uchobby> thank you seidos
[08:39] <praktykant> Hey all. I would appreciate if some1 could tell me how to check what compiler flags where used when I installed (i.e. nagios) through apt-get install.
[08:42] <seidos> praktykant, whoa, i have no idea.  i'm not even sure if this will help, but you can download the source for nagios and try compiling it yourself?
[08:44] <seidos> praktykant, are you using the nagios3 package?
[09:37] <praktykant> I`ve manage to get it running on ubuntu on test network and now need to get it done on slackware but the point is that the admin wants as minimalistic the system as it can be.
[10:02] <Silver_Fox_> Hello.
[11:47] <duanedesign> hello Silver_Fox_
[11:47] <Silver_Fox_> Hello duanedesign . How are you ?
[13:08] <Puck`> this looks greaT: http://www.turnkeylinux.org/blog/announcing-tklbam
[16:01] <uRock> If there is a grub pro in the house, this guy needs some specialty care, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9820872#post9820872
[16:09] <Mohan_chml> ubot2: tell him to update grub
[16:09] <ubot2> Mohan_chml: Error: I haven't seen him, I'll let you do the telling.
[16:09] <ubot2> Mohan_chml: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[16:09] <Mohan_chml> awww
[16:10] <Mohan_chml> uRock: I told him to update
[16:12] <uRock> cool, I didn't know that worked with wubi, thanx
[16:17] <Mohan_chml> uRock: lets see what happens if he update
[16:19] <uRock> Mohan_chml, yup
[16:19] <Mohan_chml> sup uRock ?
[16:20] <uRock> not much, getting my little one ready 4 school
[16:21] <Mohan_chml> ah. okay!
[18:15] <Mohan_chml> uRock: I think people don't respond to a thread if they find their problem solver
[18:15] <Mohan_chml> L.
[18:15] <Mohan_chml> :/
[18:16] <Silver_Fox_> That is how it generally goes Mohan_chml . You will get use to it
[18:17] <Mohan_chml> Silver_Fox_: but people must be aware that people will use the forums in the future and they must say that their problem is solver so that the thread will be meaningful
[18:18] <Mohan_chml> err solved*
[18:23] <uRock> Mohan_chml, I figured there would be more questions from the OP.
[18:23] <uRock> at the same time, if he/she is playing with Back|Track, then I would hope that the simple stuff would be easy
[18:24] <Mohan_chml> yeah! coz backtrack is a nice OS to learn ethical hacking (:
[18:24] <Silver_Fox_> Godbye
[18:25] <uRock> lol, it is a piece of work that takes more than entry level knowledge to use
[18:26] <uRock> I gave it a whirl a while back and even with learning a bit about network forensics, that OS is still beyond me
[18:40] <Mohan_chml> :o
[19:19] <sebsebseb> Hi
[19:22] <sick_fox> hi
[19:24] <Mohan_chml> hey guys! hows life?
[19:24] <sick_fox> still alive
[19:24] <sick_fox> :)
[19:24] <sick_fox> what about U
[19:25] <Mohan_chml> sick_fox: dead before 4 hours :(
[19:26] <sick_fox> Mohan_chml :( but now alive I hope
[19:26] <Mohan_chml> idk
[19:27] <sick_fox> idk stands for ?
[19:29] <Mohan_chml> I dont know
[19:30] <hobgoblin> then why say it ;)
[19:30] <sick_fox> R U using Ubuntu?
[19:33] <Mohan_chml> hello hobgoblin :)
[19:33] <hobgoblin> hi Mohan_chml
[19:33] <Mohan_chml> sick_fox: I am not using ubuntu
[19:33] <Mohan_chml> hows life hobgoblin ?
[19:33] <hobgoblin> same old
[19:33] <Mohan_chml> children?
[19:34] <sick_fox> too yuing for them
[19:34] <sick_fox> *young
[19:34] <hobgoblin> Mohan_chml: they are good - at least I assume the eldest two are anyway
[19:34] <hobgoblin> sick_fox: what do you mean?
[19:34] <sick_fox> I m too young for children
[19:34] <sick_fox> :)
[19:34] <hobgoblin> oic :)
[19:37] <hobgoblin> sick_fox: so - are you after help with something ?
[19:37] <sick_fox> hobgoblin yes I am - I wanted to register my nick, I ve done it now
[19:37] <sick_fox> Thanks with help to all
[19:38] <hobgoblin> aah - k
[19:39] <sick_fox> hobgoblin yes k (they say sometimes)
[19:39] <sick_fox> hobgoblin but thats an opinion
[19:40] <hobgoblin> many things are
[19:40] <sick_fox> :)
[19:49] <Mohan_chml> Night all (:
[19:51] <sick_fox> what is the time in your room? ;-)
[19:54] <hobgoblin> sick_fox: http://time.is/UTC
[19:56] <sick_fox> hobgoblin I too lazy to click it
[19:56] <sick_fox> i'm
[19:58] <hobgoblin> well do date -u in a terminal - it'll be the same
[19:58] <sick_fox> hobgoblin and U know what? I have a question - is there a soft for packaging java program to deb package? I mean something you click and then it is autmatically installed
[19:58] <hobgoblin> to install java?
[19:58] <hobgoblin> or create a .deb ?
[19:58] <sick_fox> I have several java class files and I wanna create a deb
[19:59] <sick_fox> to distribute the program nicely
[19:59] <hobgoblin> no idea I'm afraid
[20:00] <sick_fox> hobgoblin doesnt matter - it was just a question
[20:00] <hobgoblin> there's a howto here http://tldp.org/HOWTO/html_single/Debian-Binary-Package-Building-HOWTO/
[20:00] <hobgoblin> anyway - enough for me
[20:02] <sick_fox> thanks I ll read it later
[20:02] <sick_fox> maybe it could help me
[23:12] <linut> I have a problem with Ubuntu Tweak in Karmic
[23:12] <linut> I took out and reinstalled
[23:13] <linut> no good still
[23:13] <linut> any ideas?
[23:36] <seidos> linut, i'm not ignoring you, i've just never used ubuntu tweak
[23:37] <hihihi100> hi, can u heko with sound problems?
[23:38] <seidos> hihihi100, what's the problem?
[23:38] <hihihi100> weiil i am trying to get a midi piano player to work, to not avail so far
[23:38] <hihihi100> i recently installed some ALSA packages, I believe thats when my probkem started
[23:38] <seidos> hihihi100, oh goodness, that sounds complicated.
[23:39] <hihihi100> colume is always shown as muted
[23:39] <hihihi100> volume*
[23:39] <seidos> hihihi100, don't you need a driver for your midi piano?  you want to be able to play you keyboard and hear the sound from your computers speakers?
[23:39] <seidos> hihihi100, how are you connecting the midi piano to the computer?
[23:40] <hihihi100> right, thats what I want, I have downloaded alsa-driver-1.0.23, but I dont know what t type in the terminal to actually install it
[23:40] <hihihi100> no, not an "external" midi piano, I use virtual midi piano keyboard
[23:41] <seidos> hihihi100, i don't know what a 'virtual' midi piano is.  but i am intrigued.
[23:42] <harrisonk> anyone here use usbmodeswich?
[23:42] <hihihi100> i have been following the instructions found at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6589810
[23:44] <seidos> hihihi100, i've never seen this how to before.  and honestly, i don't know what you are trying to accomplish.
[23:44] <hihihi100> the aim is to use the key of my keyboard as if they were the keys of a piano
[23:44] <hihihi100> actually the software can be found in the repositories
[23:44] <seidos> hihihi100, ohhhh
[23:45] <seidos> hihihi100, there was another how to a friend found, but i couldn't get jackd working.  let me see if i can find a link for you
[23:46] <hihihi100> jack, yeah, dor some reason i also downloaded that
[23:46] <hihihi100> for
[23:47] <seidos> hihihi100, try these instructions:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1003466
[23:47] <seidos> hihihi100, messing with alsa is probably way too complicated if you're starting out.
[23:48] <hihihi100> looks good
[23:50] <seidos> hihihi100, if you're like me, and don't have luck, you can try this out:  http://www.virtualpiano.net/
[23:51] <harrisonk> is there any way to switch desktop evironments without using the gdm?
[23:55] <seidos> what does gdm have to do with switching desktop environments?
[23:55] <harrisonk> or the login screen utillity
[23:58] <harrisonk> also is anyone here good at reading syslog files?
[23:58] <harrisonk> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/489914/
[23:58] <seidos> harrisonk, well the login screen gives you options to select a different environment.  what environment are you trying to select?