=== bjf is now known as bjf[afk] [03:09] RAOF: got a min? [03:09] nigelb: Yeah; shoot. [03:10] RAOF: When the lucid live cd doesn't work at all thanks to intel 855, is there any possible way to install lucid and beyond? [03:10] The tricks linked to from the release notes should get you a working livecd. [03:11] tried and failed :( [03:11] Failing everything else, I think the “xforcevesa” option should get vesa loading. [03:11] aha, that should be tried [03:12] If you've tried i915.modeset=1 *and* forcing vesa doesn't work, then… complain bitterly about your hardware sucking. [03:12] haha [03:12] I did try the modeset, no go. [03:12] trying vesa in 5 mins. restarting [03:24] RAOF: I got 127 apport_gpu_intel crashes today on resume from suspend and LP is having trouble letting me submit it, does this sound like something that'll be helpful? [03:24] * micahg was only going to submit 1 [03:24] micahg: One (the first, preferably) is enough. [03:24] RAOF: k, but do you think it'll help with something? there were a few similar ones showing up as possible duplicates [03:25] micahg: It's hard to tell without the dump, basically. [03:25] RAOF: k, I'll try to file later [03:25] micahg: Our ability to automatically determine duplicates of GPU dumps is poor. [03:26] right, I just want to make sure I'm not adding to an endless pit of bugs that no one wants [03:41] OK, so I'll just complain bitterly about my hardware sucking :/ [03:47] nigelb: vesa doesn't work for you either? [03:48] nigelb: Does kms bring up the splash-screen before X starts? If so, you could install from the alternate CD, add an xorg.conf specifying the “fbdev” driver, and set i915.modeset=1 [04:28] I'm looking forward to “kill it with fire” at XDS :) [04:32] RAOF: Adding vesa didn't help. I did get the splash screen, but some error shows up glibc error [04:33] That glibc error is benign, and unrelated. [04:33] ok, then it just gets stuck there, doesn't move on [04:33] I shall try with alternate CD tonight. [06:40] ccheney: ping? seems gvfs-fuse with OO.o is busted in lucid, it can't open any files behind sftp mounts [06:42] could be bug 433944 === tkamppeter_ is now known as tkamppeter [08:06] good morning [08:13] Good morning. [08:25] morning didrocks, afternoon RAOF [08:25] hey ara, RAOF [08:25] Good $TIME_OF_DAY ara ;) [08:25] :) [08:29] hey didrocks, morning. We've got already quite a few translations of the ubuntu one e-mail. Do you think we could put them in the package already? I still think we should wait until the deadline on NonLanguagePackDeadline, but I think it would be good to make another upload before that, so they can be tested. [08:29] They are here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/Wanted/UbuntuOneEmail [08:29] hey dpm, sure, I can try to get a free slot today for testing that [08:30] hum, the email is signed and such, so it can take time… [08:30] I have to check how it is [08:31] didrocks, cool, thanks. Let me know if I can get them in a format that's easier for you to fetch them. They are all in the subpages there, and I asked translators to enclose them in {{{}}}, so it might be easier to collect them per script and ignore all the rest of text in the wiki pages [08:32] dpm: yeah, I think I'll use a script :) [08:32] so {{{ and }}} [08:33] argh, can't get https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/Wanted/UbuntuOneEmail/fr?action=raw from wget [08:34] oh, does it need authentication? [08:37] didrocks, you can get the html page though: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/Wanted/UbuntuOneEmail/fr, and all translations should start with 'From:' and end with 'http://one.ubuntu.com', although I'm not sure this applies to those with RTL languages such Hebrew :( [08:37] dpm: yeah, can do that, or rely on html tags [08:38] * didrocks can let rodrigo_ doing that too :) [08:39] hahaha [08:41] well, u1 people commited to doing that patch :) [08:41] as evo doesn't have i18n support for that [09:32] morning [09:34] salut huats [09:35] hello didrocks [09:39] hello [09:40] hi seb128 [09:40] how are you? [09:41] hey chrisccoulson [09:41] I'm fine, a bit angry at xorg though [09:41] or whatever decided to stop turning on my screen when my laptop is docked with lid close [09:42] very confusing, I tried to figure for a while what's going on [09:42] that's not good :/ [09:42] it seems it decides to turn on the laptop screen which is lid closed and turn off the external monitor on the dock station [09:42] oh, so they're not even both switched off? [09:42] I can hit enter and type my password though [09:43] then the screen comes back with the session [09:43] seb128: I fixed the enter crashes GDM bug [09:43] well the display capplet thinks both are activated in mirror mode [09:43] bilalakhtar, oh? great, what was it? [09:43] seb128: see my comment on bug #626723 [09:44] Its wierd, but it works like magic! [09:44] no bot today? [09:45] hey! ubot2 where are you? [09:45] on vacation, I suppose [09:46] seb128: Its a regression of a bug that matches the day when we began to face this issue [09:46] * debian/apache2.2-common.apache2.init: Add stty sane so that users will get a [09:46] password prompt when using apache-ssl. (LP: #582963) [09:47] hmmm, i don't have apache, and i still get the issue [09:47] and my issue is clearly because X starts on top of getty [09:48] chrisccoulson, I think you have a different bug then others [09:48] yeah, possibly [09:48] chrisccoulson, the few duplicates I marked last week had xorg on the right vt [09:48] chrisccoulson: YEs your bug is different [09:48] hmmm :/ [09:48] cf comment #9 [09:49] chrisccoulson: Yours starts on tty2 and is #625239 [09:51] have to go now [10:55] seb128: do you know if there will be a new rhythmbox release before maverick? or should I backport the fix http://git.gnome.org/browse/rhythmbox/commit/?id=d7c99f82fad19078a0da1d882bde35445ca1a58f ? [10:56] didrocks, backport, we got a release this week I doubt we will get any other [10:56] seb128: ok, doing it, thanks! [10:56] thank you [10:57] did you confirm the fix works for you? [11:02] chrisccoulson: hmm.. is there some serious memory leak in current firefox from maverick? [11:03] kklimonda, not that i'm aware of [11:03] hmm.. mine is using over a GB right now :/ [11:03] and I have restarted it recently [11:03] that's not good. does it do that without any extensions installed? [11:06] chrisccoulson: good idea, I've restarted it with add-ons disabled and will report later :) [11:06] thanks [11:14] Laney, around? [11:15] rodrigo_: yep, hi [11:16] Laney, 2 things, I've just released libu1 with your dllmap fix, and I'm trying to do the same for tomboy -> https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~rodrigo-moya/ubuntu/maverick/tomboy/fix-dllmap [11:16] ah, excellent! [11:16] Laney, but I still don't get libsyncdaemon-1.0 as dependencies for the .deb file, so what is missing? [11:16] what does dh_clideps tell you when you build? [11:16] hmm, let me find it [11:17] oh -> dh_clideps: Warning: Could not resolve moduleref: syncdaemon-1.0 for: WebSyncServiceAddin.dll! [11:17] hmm [11:17] that's what you have to make go away [11:17] oh, the DllImport is syncdaemon-1.0 and the dllmap is libsyncdaemon-1.0 [11:17] :) [11:17] so, I need to use the same name, right? [11:17] seems that is a common problem [11:17] yes [11:17] ok [11:18] there are other warnings btw [11:18] * rodrigo_ pastebins [11:18] they arent always a problem [11:18] look at the ones which were present in the last upload I did [11:18] any new ones are bad [11:19] right, it complains about libtomboy [11:19] which is the source, so I guess it's no problem === bilalakhtar is now known as cdbs === cdbs is now known as bilalakhtar [11:28] Laney, ah, the .dll.config file needs to be installed with the .dll for dh_clideps to find it, right? [11:28] right, it needs to be alongside it [11:28] and with the same name + ".config" [11:28] ok, that's what's missing === bilalakhtar_ is now known as bilalakhtar [11:43] Laney, still getting -> dh_clideps: Warning: Missing shlibs entry: libsyncdaemon-1.0.so or syncdaemon-1.0 for: WebSyncServiceAddin.dll! [11:43] but I have: [11:43] + [11:43] + [11:43] + [11:44] it gets ok gobject-2.0 and proxy, why not syncdaemon-1.0? [11:45] can you show me a build log? [11:46] Laney, yes, sure [11:46] preferably in a chroot [11:50] Laney, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/490289/ [11:50] no chroot sorry, just building with bzr bd [11:51] I believe you can get that to run pbuilder [11:53] you're not using a custom build of ubuntuone-client & libsyncdaemon on the system? [11:54] rodrigo_: try libsyncdaemon-1.0.so.1 [11:54] ok [11:56] yay [11:57] Laney, ok, pushed to https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~rodrigo-moya/ubuntu/maverick/tomboy/fix-dllmap <- if you like it, I'll dput the package and propose the branch for merging [11:58] rodrigo_: build it in a chroot, check for errors, check the dependencies [11:59] run the package [11:59] if it all works then upload [11:59] ok [12:07] rodrigo_: you should probably add the appropriate version to the other libs in that dllmap [12:07] ok === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [12:49] good morning everyone! [12:53] hey nessita [12:53] hey didrocks, how are you? [12:53] nessita: I'm fine, thanks! you? [12:54] pretty good, thanks for asking :-) [13:41] packaging question: I need to remove a few conffiles in the new version of a package, and I've applied what http://wiki.debian.org/DpkgConffileHandling describes. The files are smoothly removed but the directories that used to hold the conffiles are not. Shall I remove those explicitly? [13:52] nessita: yeah, you should, you can test if the directory is empty or try a rmdir <…> || true in the postinst [13:52] or preinst [13:53] depending on your upgrade case :) [13:53] didrocks: right... so if I'm removing no-longer-needed conffiles I should remove the directories on postint, right? [13:54] nessita: right [13:54] and in postrm as well, I think? [13:54] nessita: depends, is it in upgrade? where do you remove your conffiles? [13:55] didrocks: this is an upgrade, and I'm removing on preinst, postint, and postrm as per dpkg-maintscript-helper instructions [13:55] didrocks: seems like on preinst the conffiles are automaticlaly just moved [13:56] nessita: just put the rmdir /etc/<…> || true in the same place your remove conffiles [13:56] didrocks: perfect, thanks [13:57] you're welcome [13:57] mvo: hi [13:58] mvo: the number calculation in the show/hide stuff that just got merged into trunk is a bit odd. It gives show 32000 items and hide 1638 items for provided by ubuntu in installed software === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [14:01] scott 9904 91.6 10.2 390056 209252 ? SLl 13:59 1:41 evolution [14:01] le sigh [14:02] scott 9904 92.4 14.3 475296 294240 ? SLl 13:59 2:16 evolution [14:02] it's sitting there churning CPU and going OM NOM NOM MOAR MEMORY MOAR! === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan [14:10] kiwinote: hi! thanks, I have a look (or make gary having a look ;) [14:10] kiwinote: thanks for your fix btw [14:10] devildante: I'm merging your removal branch currently \o/ [14:11] mvo_: thanks, I'll ping tremolux once he's around [14:11] thanks kiwinote! [14:36] kenvandine, hey [14:41] hey seb128 [14:41] kenvandine, how are you? [14:41] good [14:42] and you? [14:42] I'm fine thanks [14:42] kenvandine, I've assigned bug #628967 to you [14:42] Launchpad bug 628967 in vino (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 4 other projects) "vino crashes on desktop sharing with Empathy (affects: 2) (heat: 14)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/628967 [14:42] ok [14:42] it's due to the indicator change [14:43] i'll try to get to both that and the empathy notification bug today [14:46] kenvandine, thanks [14:47] np [14:52] mvo_, thanks :) [14:52] mvo_, and sorry for the late reply :p [14:53] seb128: hi, is the plan for the keyboard indicator to have an icon next to it? https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/631384/+attachment/1549115/+files/indicator_color.png [14:53] Launchpad bug 631384 in hundredpapercuts "Keyboard Layout Indicator Style (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] [14:54] or is icon meant to be removed.. with the layout alone [14:57] devildante: no worries :) [14:57] ;) [15:00] vish, unfortunately it needs a generic icon for Maverick (unless klattimer has done some amazing last-minute stuff). The problem in that bug seems to be that it's not using the panel-style icon that it was using in 10.04. [15:01] rodrigo_, hi [15:01] mpt: there already was a generic icon, but this seems to be using the non panel icon. [15:01] hey seb128 [15:01] exactly [15:02] rodrigo_, do you have a GNOME 2.32 g-c-c build locally? [15:02] rodrigo_, jhbuild or similar? [15:02] seb128, yes, jhbuild [15:02] rodrigo_, could you check if gnome-display-properties crashes on apply as well? [15:02] seb128, ok, checking [15:02] rodrigo_, it does in the maverick build [15:02] rodrigo_, thanks [15:03] rodrigo_, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/631217 [15:03] Launchpad bug 631217 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 1 other project) "Can't save dual monitor configuration (affects: 21) (dups: 4) (heat: 101)" [Low,Triaged] [15:03] rodrigo_, comment #11 [15:03] mpt: hmm , so i guess there already a bug for that.. me goes hunting.. ;) [15:04] oh, i was going to try and debug that issue when i get some spare time later [15:04] seeing as i don't do much GNOME work these days ;) [15:04] seb128, compiling to make sure I've got the latest [15:05] * vish just noticed , we have a new menu item "Monitors" which does not use Humanity icon.. o.0 [15:05] chrisccoulson, we are not running you of issues or hacking need if you want to do some [15:05] seb128, no crash [15:05] seb128, only 1 monitor though [15:05] rodrigo_, ok thanks [15:06] rodrigo_, and the ubuntu version? you are on maverick? [15:06] yes, maverick [15:06] although I run it with jhbuild run, so it gets the jhbuild libs [15:06] do you want me to run on its own? [15:06] rodrigo_, no, just check if the maverick version crashes for you [15:06] if you can [15:06] thanks [15:07] ok [15:09] seb128, no crash, but it offers me to run the nvidia tool instead, and then fails to save, with the same warnings as in #11: [15:09] (gnome-display-properties:10113): Gtk-WARNING **: Ignoring the separator setting [15:09] (gnome-display-properties:10113): Gtk-WARNING **: No object called: [15:09] ** (gnome-display-properties:10113): CRITICAL **: gnome_rr_config_save_to_file: assertion `error == NULL || *error == NULL' failed [15:09] rodrigo_, ok thanks, seems a bug in our distro changes [15:09] seb128, if a user service (dbus activated) needs to be restarted on upgrade [15:09] is it safe to put a killall for it in a preinst? [15:10] kenvandine, i suppose it depends on hwo the user service handles the signal [15:10] the service won't work for any logged in user unless it restarts [15:10] nessita, ^^ [15:10] will it cause data loss for example? [15:10] doubt it... nessita, can you confirm? [15:10] if the service has a proper signal handler and exits cleanly, then maybe it might be ok [15:11] i don't think it actually holds onto any data [15:11] but then again i don't understand why it keeps running :) [15:11] kenvandine, usually we teach those service to reload on sighup [15:11] kenvandine, this is U1? [15:11] then send a sighup from the posinst [15:11] the postinst [15:11] chrisccoulson, yes [15:11] sso client [15:11] it's cleaner [15:12] ok [15:12] nessita, ^^ [15:12] nessita, would that work? [15:12] kenvandine - it keeps running because nautilus keeps activating it [15:12] that's what gconf, gvfs etc do [15:12] (unless that wasn't what you were asking) [15:12] there is a bug about that [15:12] they should fix it for maverick [15:12] kenvandine: yes, it doesn't hold yo any data [15:12] yeah, i'd like to be able to stop it when i need to work :) [15:13] nessita, so maybe fix that bug instead of making it restart :) [15:13] chrisccoulson, so do you want to help on some desktop bugs? [15:13] chrisccoulson, will you have time for those or maybe time? [15:13] kenvandine: which bug? I think u1-client and sso is being confused [15:13] kenvandine: have a bug report? [15:14] seb128, ^^ [15:14] about what? [15:14] seb128 - yeah, i should have some time. other than localization issues in firefox, it's looking pretty good [15:14] the nautilus thing? [15:14] nautilus keeping sso-login running [15:14] I'm not sure the one I read was about sso [15:14] or rather the sync service [15:14] let me check [15:15] seb128, the problem we hit was nessita's latest version of sso-client is without killing the service it looks like it works but it doesn't [15:15] do you have time to do the sighup thing? [15:15] kenvandine: the bug is about nautilus starting u1 syncdamoen, not soo [15:15] nessita, hey [15:15] seb128: hello! [15:15] seb128: not sure what the sighup thing is :-) [15:15] nessita, so ideally for sso you would reload on sighup [15:15] nessita, it's an unix signal [15:16] seb128: right, but the "thing" would be ading a handler? [15:16] adding* [15:16] seb128, but... if we fix the long running problem... we don't need to [15:16] nessita, yes, to add an handler in sso reloading the service of whatever you need to do after an upgrade to get it to work [15:16] nessita, then the package update would send a sighup to sso after the update [15:17] seb128: I understand [15:17] kenvandine: even if the service doesn't run for long, shouldn't we restart it the same? === bjf[afk] is now known as bjf [15:21] nessita, shouldn't hurt [15:22] kenvandine: I'll do both [15:22] cool [15:22] nessita, let me know when it is ready for review again :) [15:23] nessita, besides those 2 problems, it looks good :) [15:23] kenvandine: awesome, thanks! [15:24] nessita, anytime [15:24] * bcurtiswx realized today was deadline day for sponsorship requests to UDS D: [15:27] chrisccoulson, do you want to take over bug #631217? [15:27] seb128: Bug 631217 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/631217 is private [15:28] seb128 - yeah, sure. i can take that one [15:28] bug #631217 [15:28] Launchpad bug 631217 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 1 other project) "Can't save dual monitor configuration (affects: 21) (dups: 4) (heat: 101)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/631217 [15:28] chrisccoulson, the bug is in 109_screen_resolution_extra.patch it seems [15:28] without it there is no crash [15:28] thanks [15:29] chrisccoulson, thank *you* ;-) [15:33] hey tremolux [15:33] hi kiwinote! [15:33] tremolux: your hide/show stuff got merged into trunk today [15:34] mvo_: hi, I just figured software-center has a plugin system, is it documented somewhere? [15:34] tremolux: I like that it's all in one place now, but there are a few little regressions [15:34] mvo: some background, I'm giving a session at the ubuntu app devel week, and I'm looking for a default ubuntu application written in python with a simple plugin system, [15:34] to show people how easy it is to implement zeitgeist in existing apps. [15:34] kiwinote: yep, I know about two I think [15:35] tremolux: in the installed pane the show numbers are too large, ie show 32k apps against hide 1600 apps [15:35] kiwinote: yep, that's the big one [15:35] kiwinote: what else? [15:35] kiwinote: I need to turn it on for the Installed View also [15:35] tremolux: also we used to show all the installed apps in the smaller channel panes, now we have show/hide for a total of three items [15:39] kiwinote: yeah, I could turn it off for small lists, but now that's we've introduced show/hide for installed items, we maybe ought to stay consistent there [15:40] tremolux: true, that consistency is a good thing [15:41] kiwinote: same situation for partner repository in the availablepane for instance [15:42] tremolux: yep, not sure quite how easy it is to know whether we'll have a short/long list, but if it's possible to not use show/hide in short lists, then that'd be sweet ;) [15:44] kiwinote: well, it's not just a performance tweak to show/hide, its other purpose is to actually be useful by hiding stuff that many people wouldn't want to see === bjf is now known as bjf[afk] [15:45] tremolux: yeah, although if we have one app and two pkgs, then I think we can show them all by default [15:45] tremolux: but that may be an mpt question [15:46] thekorn: there is an example plugin in software-center source [15:47] kiwinote: regarding the "nnn technical items" numbers, we actually almost never get that perfectly right (bug 605446) [15:47] Launchpad bug 605446 in software-center (Ubuntu) "Number of "other technical items" is inaccurate (affects: 2) (heat: 71)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/605446 [15:48] kiwinote: and it occurred to me that we probably should just say "Show technical items" and "Hide technical items"; who cares how many there are? [15:49] tremolux: hey, having "one technical item" in the featured apps and clicking on it doing nothing, known bug? [15:49] kiwinote: except if you are the type to let "show 32000 technical items" scare you off ;) [15:49] tremolux, exactly, so that you know whether you're going to get swamped [15:50] mpt: I guess, but you either want to see them, or you don't [15:50] tremolux: by way of the show 32k vs hide 1600, it used to be a lot closer [15:50] mpt: you can always just click something else if you don't want to wait [15:50] tremolux: oh, seems to be fixed, should have retried today :) [15:50] didrocks: oh good [15:50] tremolux: I think the 32k refers to the number in the available pane, rather than limiting the scope to installed pkgs [15:51] didrocks: yes, thanks, if you notice anything, be sure to ping [15:51] tremolux: ping :p [15:51] didrocks: ha! [15:51] tremolux: the home page isn't sorted alphabetically [15:51] tremolux: (we already discussed at the sprint about that one) [15:52] tremolux: in French, we have Accessoires … Accès … Son et vidéo … Éducation [15:52] É should be just after E [15:52] not at the end [15:52] (for the categories) [15:54] didrocks, report a bug, and link to :-) [15:54] didrocks: we oughta fix that! :D [15:54] thanks mpt [15:55] mpt: tremolux doing it now :) [15:55] bahaha [15:57] * mpt just got an error alert that is taller than the screen [15:57] thekorn: hello! there is a "example_plugin.py" in the source [15:57] mpt: turn your computer sideways [15:57] thekorn: but its not really well documented [15:58] * devildante lol'd at tremolux suggestion [15:58] mvo, when I get "Please report this bug against the 'update-manager' package and include the following error message", is that error message logged anywhere I can copy it from? [15:58] tremolux, it has no gyroscope unfortunately [15:58] mpt: ah dang [16:00] * kiwinote has a button on his screen to rotate it, pity it doesn't work though ;) [16:00] mpt, I'll check in source code [16:00] mpt: best is to ship all the files in /var/log/dist-upgrade/* [16:00] (bug #633238) [16:00] Launchpad bug 633238 in software-center (Ubuntu) "categories not sorted alphabetically (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/633238 [16:00] mpt: in what context did you get the message [16:00] mpt, or you could just try what mvo said :p [16:01] mvo_, while installing updates. "Could not initialize the package information / An unresolvable problem occurred while initializing the package information." [16:02] tremolux: hi, the dummy images [/data/images/dummy-screenshot-ubuntu.png , dummy-thumbnail-ubuntu.png ] for SC use the old Ubuntu logo.. we probably need to tell someone :) [16:02] vish: do we use those anymore? [16:02] mpt: uhh [16:03] seb128, i think i am going to have another SRU for gwibber [16:03] kiwinote: hmm.. not sure.. maybe we need to remove them then ;) [16:03] kenvandine: is this for it asking me to reauth twitter every few minutes? [16:03] kenvandine, ok, what changed? [16:03] vish: I think they're just there because the webkit views are still there as a fallback [16:04] mpt: I'm in a meeting now, can we talk later? the output of "apt-get install -f --simulate" would be interessting [16:04] chrisccoulson, if,when you fix that g-c-c bug, could you update the .install to install the new helper binary? [16:04] jcastro, no... didn't know about that [16:04] chrisccoulson, it's not installed right now [16:04] kiwinote: oh if its not important, nvm then.. ;) [16:04] chrisccoulson, the one to set the config as default [16:04] seb128 - yeah, sure [16:04] seb128, i just fixed a problem for maverick's version of gwibber that also affects lucid's version [16:04] and... i suspect it is the root cause for a ton of bugs :) [16:04] ok [16:05] seb128, the problem is scheduled refreshes vs. user initiated refreshes [16:05] vish, kiwinote: I think we don't use them, right, now we just show a small "No screenshot" image [16:05] when a user initiates a refresh it frequently ends up with multiple scheduled refreshes [16:05] so it refreshes more often than it should... sometimes stepping on itself in the process [16:05] vish: thanks for noticing tho, good eye! those should be removed, yes [16:06] and adding to our problem of saturating our allocation at facebook [16:06] last night i did a bunch of manual refreshes over and over again in between a single interval of scheduled refreshes [16:06] then looked at the log in the morning and it was refreshing every 1.5 minutes all night [16:06] and i have it set to 15m [16:07] the fix is to ensure the timer is removed on reschedule [16:07] simple fix [16:07] and actually kind of hard for anyone to notice it is happening... but under the covers it can cause all kinds of issues :/ === zyga is now known as zyga-kids [16:08] tremolux: neat! thanks.. :) [16:10] chrisccoulson, what sort of bugs or components do you prefer to hack on? [16:11] is anybody there wanting to hack on rhythmbox to make it not close while playing but just hides it ui? [16:11] seb128 - i don't mind really. what sort of things did you have in mind? [16:12]