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micahgDimmuxx: beta update in topic :)01:19
Dimmuxxmicahg: nice :)01:26
fta2chrisccoulson, mdeslaur: fyi: [Branch ~chromium-team/chromium-browser/channels] Rev 269: linux/stable (6.0.472.53 -> 6.0.472.55)08:09
fta2micahg, didn't you tell me that the icetea6 plugin works fine without the LD_LIBRARY_PATH workaround???13:02
fta2bug 63307513:03
ubot2Launchpad bug 633075 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) "icedtea6 plugin will crash chromium-browser (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/63307513:03
fta2jdstrand, fyi: [Branch ~chromium-team/chromium-browser/channels] Rev 269: linux/stable (6.0.472.53 -> 6.0.472.55)13:21
jdstrandfta2: does this mean we need to reupload chromium or will we continue to wait on the SRU process and upload that after?13:25
jdstrandfta2: btw, the TB has been talking about chromium, but it isn't decided yet13:26
fta2jdstrand, it looks like a bunch regression fixes, nothing security related13:26
fta2http://googlechromereleases.blogspot.com/2010/09/stable-beta-channel-updates.html13:27
jdstrandI would say we could push that to -updates after, but I think we all know by the time what is in -proposed hits -security google will have released a new security fix release :P13:28
fta2jdstrand, there's no activity in sec channel since the last big update, so no idea when the next critical update will be13:30
jdstrandwell, it seems getting what we have out sooner is more important than those bug fixes13:32
jdstrandI'd be happy to upload to -proposed though. ultimately, it is the same amount of work (since I would do that upload to -proposed wither way)13:32
jdstrands/wither/either/13:32
fta2jdstrand, why is the TB taking so long to decide?13:52
chrisccoulsonfta2 - i think it was me who told you that the icedtea plugin works without the LD_LIBRARY_PATH workaround14:16
fta2chrisccoulson, ok, then what is this new bug about? i don't understand14:17
chrisccoulsonfta2 - which new bug?14:18
chrisccoulsonoh14:18
chrisccoulsonhang on :)14:18
fta2bug 63307514:18
ubot2Launchpad bug 633075 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) "icedtea6 plugin will crash chromium-browser (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/63307514:18
chrisccoulsonhmmm :/14:19
jdstrandfta2: I don't know14:19
chrisccoulsonfta2 - ok, i'll have a look at exactly what was changed in a bit14:19
fta2chrisccoulson, jdstrand: http://www.iuculano.it/it/linux/debian/chromium-browser-removed-from-testing/14:39
fta2chrisccoulson, jdstrand: oops, http://www.iuculano.it/en/linux/debian/chromium-browser-removed-from-testing/14:40
chrisccoulsonfta - interesting14:43
chrisccoulsonwow, dpkg is so incredibly slow14:50
chrisccoulsonall i want to do is install a few language packs and it's taken nearly 40 minutes so far14:50
chrisccoulsongrrrrrr14:50
fta2the download part or the install part?14:52
fta2jdstrand, do you think people are using -security but not -upgrades?14:55
jdstrandfta2: yes. -security without -updates is a supported configuration14:55
chrisccoulsonfta2 - unpacking is slow. and then dpkg runs all the triggers after installing each language pack too :/14:57
chrisccoulsonisn't it meant to do that all in one go at the end?14:57
roy_Is the newest Firefox called Namoroka ?15:41
Dimmuxxroy_: that's 3.6.x15:43
roy_Because I added the ppa for the ubuntu mozilla daily build team and it updated my firefox which is now named as Namoroka15:44
roy_I am just abit confused why it changed the name from firefox to Namoroka15:45
Dimmuxxthe daily ppa updates your stable 3.6.x release to an unstable 3.6.x daily build15:46
roy_I was trying to get firefox 4 ?15:47
Dimmuxxthen you should install firefox-4.015:48
DimmuxxI would recommend waiting for the beta ppa though15:48
roy_ok thanks15:52
ftachrisccoulson, did you have a look at the ch/icetea6 bug?16:07
chrisccoulsonfta - not yet, i've got some other things i need to finish first16:07
ftak16:07
ftahm, a new libvpx17:02
micahgchrisccoulson: I'll SRU the gjs/gnome-shell fix for lucid over the weekend17:08
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ftafirefox doesn't have translations for its desktop file??17:13
micahgfta: well, there are some17:13
micahgthe dailies don't17:13
ftai see none in /usr/share/applications/firefox.desktop17:14
micahgI have them on my ssytem17:14
ftathat's from umd17:15
micahgah, yeah, they won't have it17:15
ftawgy?17:15
ftawhy?17:15
micahgnot branded as Firefox17:15
micahgneed different translations17:15
dpmfta, micahg, chrisccoulson: ah, that reminds me... I've been collecting some translations for the desktop file in FF and Thunderbird. If I file a bug, could you include them by NonLanguagePackTranslationDeadline on the 16th? They are here:17:15
dpm  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/Wanted/FirefoxDesktop17:16
micahgdpm: yeah, I can take care of it this weekend17:16
ftasame for chromium: bug 63167017:16
ubot2Launchpad bug 631670 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) "Chromium .desktop file is not using translations (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/63167017:16
dpmmicahg, no rush, I'd like to give translators time until the nonlangpack deadline, as it fits more with the translations workflow, if that's ok with you17:17
dpmfta, yeah, same for that one, thanks :)17:17
micahgdpm: k, I can do an upload tuesday night then17:17
ftadpm, i've just merged the 1st batch17:17
dpmmicahg, fta, it's awesome that you are merging them already - I just want to make sure if it's ok with you to receive the last batch on the 16th on NonLanguagePackDeadline17:19
micahgdpm: yes, but that's supposed to be by UTC midnight of the 16th everything is supposed to be uploaded already17:19
micahgdpm: I can do an upload around 0400 UTC on the 16th, and I hope the archive isn't frozen by then17:20
micahgdpm: chromium you have more leeway since it's in universe17:20
dpmmicahg, that'd be great, even if you want to do the upload on the 15th. Time for translations is not that critical in that case, as long it is close to the nonlangpackdeadline17:21
dpmI can tell translators to have them ready by the 15th17:22
micahgdpm: that'll be fine, I'll upload 16th at 0400 UTC (15th 10PM local time :))17:28
dpmmicahg, awesome, thanks!17:29
micahgdpm: np17:29
chrisccoulsonhmmm, firefox needs a source patch to support localized values for spellchecker.dictionary :(17:51
chrisccoulsoni suppose i can at least send that upstream17:52
keesfta: say, can I convince you to build chromium with PIE?17:55
ftakees, PIE? as in -fPIE?17:56
keesfta: yeah17:58
keesfta: could be done either via hardening-wrapper (easy) or via hardening-includes (less easy but still easy)17:59
ftakees, should i expect regressions?18:00
ftakees, i guess i can give it a try with the dailies...18:01
keesfta: if so, it's a horrible bug in the compiler. or chromium is doing something unholy. which, I guess is possible.18:02
keesfta: but in normal conditions, it should be fine.18:02
keesfta: you can use "hardening-check" in the hardening-includes package to validate the results.18:03
ftakees, hmm.. i use the same packaging for the backports.. down to hardy, i guess it's a problem18:15
ftaoh, hardening-wrapper 1.11 is in hardy18:17
keesyeah, should be fine even in hardy.18:18
keesand if it's not, I'd be happy to help with the rules file :)18:18
ftakees, chromium runs in a sandbox, i'm not sure what kind of benefit we can obtain with this..18:20
keesfta: my understanding is that the sandbox isn't actually enabled on linux yet.18:30
ftakees, of course it is. the suid one. /usr/lib/chromium-browser/chromium-browser-sandbox18:31
fta(not the seccomp one)18:32
ftahttp://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=3613318:33
keesah, okay, it's doing containers, not seccomp. okay, cool. I didn't know there were two. still, PIE is yet-another-protection. :)18:35
ftai'm doing a test build in a pbuilder, but i'm not sure it's even being used18:38
ftakees, it's using ccache???19:11
keesfta: what?19:13
ftakees, hardening-wrapper19:13
keesno19:13
keesit's just a wrapper19:13
ftaor is it pbuilder?19:14
ftacube:~/chromium-browser-7.0.519.0~svn20100908r58782# hardening-check debian/chromium-browser/usr/lib/chromium-browser/chromium-browser19:15
ftadebian/chromium-browser/usr/lib/chromium-browser/chromium-browser:19:15
fta Position Independent Executable: yes19:15
fta Stack protected: yes19:15
fta Fortify Source functions: yes19:15
fta Read-only relocations: yes19:15
fta Immediate binding: yes19:15
ftakees, ^^19:16
kees\o/19:20
ftahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ba1BqJ4S2M19:43
ftamicahg, there's a new libvpx, it seems to bring lots of improvements, perf wise19:59
ftai put it in ucd20:00
micahgfta: thanks, I think we're going to stick with in-source vpx for Firefox, but I can check with chrisccoulson20:01
micahgfta: is it worth getting into maverick?20:03
ftamicahg, would be nice imho, but slomo is the owner20:03
micahgfta: oh20:04
ftai'm auto-importing it from the gst-dev ppa and i auto-backport it for all arches for the 4 chromium ppas20:05
ftasomething like this in a daily cron: http://paste.ubuntu.com/490518/20:06
chrisccoulsonyeah, we'll probably stick with in-source vpx for firefox20:23
ftais firefox built with PIC now?21:26
micahgfta: PIC or PIE?21:26
ftaPIE sorrt21:27
ftay21:27
micahgfta: yes, it's been that way since Lucid IIRC21:27
ftak21:28
ftaBUGabundo, hey!21:45
BUGabundohey fta21:45
BUGabundodo tell21:45
fta?21:46
ftahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ba1BqJ4S2M21:46
ftafunny21:46
BUGabundofta: plenty21:49
BUGabundolet me laugh at a blank screen21:49
fta?21:49
BUGabundoor when ever chromium works21:49
ftait's fine here21:49
BUGabundo7.0.519.0 (58782) Ubuntu 10.1021:50
ftasame21:50
BUGabundolet me do a clean profile and gdb21:51
BUGabundo$ chromium-browser -g --temp-profile http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ba1BqJ4S2M21:51
BUGabundoit does work :S21:51
BUGabundoflash21:52
BUGabundomy profile is set to HTML521:52
ftahtml5 too here21:55
BUGabundofta: its working now22:03
BUGabundoit was noscripting addong22:03
ftai don't use that22:04
BUGabundotesting it for two days22:06
ftakees, did some testing of this chromium pie build (maverick 32), worked fine. just committed it in the daily branch (hoping it will work for the backports), next daily planed in a few hours. if no regression emerges, i'll land it to the other branches, and ship it in the next stable update23:58

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