[11:47] <duanedesign> morning all
[11:48] <mkarnicki> morning duanedesign :)
[11:49] <duanedesign> hey there mkarnicki
[11:50] <mkarnicki> I'm thinking of taking part in tomorrows bug day, I'll read the wiki today
[11:53] <duanedesign> mkarnicki: cool
[11:54] <mkarnicki> duanedesign: I always wanted to take part, but never had courage and time to start
[11:54] <duanedesign> mkarnicki: i need to do some bug work. Been really busy lately...
[11:54] <mkarnicki> duanedesign: good luck :)
[11:54] <ajmitch> hi
[11:54] <mkarnicki> hi
[12:13] <duanedesign> rye: what should we do about Maverick bug reports having trouble authenticating? Is their a master bug report? Should we be recommending the workaround with the ubuntuone-auth-old.py script?
[12:14] <rye> duanedesign, as of yesterday, the fix was deployed to staging and  staging is used by the sso client... and let me see what is the current status of sso client
[12:14] <ajmitch> duanedesign: something like bug 628118?
[12:14] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 628118 in ubuntuone-servers "OAuth tokens are not added to Ubuntu One after /sso-finished-so-get-tokens/ (affects: 13) (heat: 72)" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/628118
[12:17] <rye> duanedesign, the bug with sso client is bug 627700
[12:17] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 627700 in ubuntu-sso-client (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 2 other projects) "pinging of ubuntuone url is done using http address resulting in 403 FORBIDDEN response (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/627700
[12:58] <mkarnicki> sweet, I like the new pastebin :)
[14:04] <rye> duanedesign, nessita just confirmed that the updated sso client will be available today, the update is the only missing link between maverick and ubuntuone
[16:31] <popey> wheeeeee
[16:31]  * popey files some bugs in u1 :)
[16:31] <popey> where "some" = 2
[16:33] <beuno> what?!  we have no bugs!
[16:34] <popey> bug 633280
[16:34] <popey> :)
[16:34] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 633280 in ubuntuone-client (Ubuntu) "U1 Preferences sign up screen, captcha never loads (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/633280
[16:34] <beuno> interesting
[16:34]  * beuno pokes nessita 
[16:34] <popey> note that I'm behind a proxy
[16:35] <popey> so at a wild guess the preferences dialog takes no notice of my gnome proxy settings
[16:35] <nessita> beuno: hum
[16:36] <nessita> beuno: we're not dealing with proxys, as far as I know, let me grab some opinions
[16:37] <nessita> popey: could you please file a bug?
[16:37] <popey> look up
[16:38] <nessita> popey: for ubuntu-sso-client project
[16:38] <popey> ooo
[16:38] <popey> well, i just filed bug 633285 also, which may be related I guess
[16:38] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 633285 in ubuntuone-client (Ubuntu) "U1 Preferences sign up screen, T&C doesnt load (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/633285
[16:38] <popey> and bug 633280
[16:38] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 633280 in ubuntuone-client (Ubuntu) "U1 Preferences sign up screen, captcha never loads (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/633280
[16:38] <nessita> popey: I'll handle that, thanks!
[16:38] <popey> np
[16:39] <barry> hi all.  on a maverick desktop i go to System -> Preferences -> Ubuntu One and get the pref window, but see no way to register my computer.  under Account, i see Unknown for name, email, plan, links to manage account and support options, but that's it.  i've run thru the faq but u1sdtool -c does nothing.  thoughts?
[16:39] <popey> barry: there's a link at the bottom "Already have an acount? Click here to sign in"
[16:40] <barry> popey: nope, i don't have that link :(
[16:40] <popey> oh, sorry, i thought you got the create account thing, sorry, ignore me
[16:40] <popey> barry: is your system fully up to date? I had to uninstall/purge ubuntu-desktop and then reinstall to get the new sign up dialog
[16:40] <barry> popey: i think the preferences window is borked
[16:41] <popey> no, its blank like that normally :)
[16:41] <popey> i suspect you just dont have the new code which has the "Create Ubuntu One account" thing in it
[16:41] <barry> popey: i just apt-get updated and rebooted on this box
[16:41] <popey> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/55218601/Screenshot.png
[16:41] <popey> ^^ that thing
[16:41] <barry> popey: i don't see anything like that :/
[16:42] <popey> you could try:-
[16:42] <popey> sudo apt-get remove --purge ubuntu-desktop
[16:42] <popey> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[16:42] <popey> see if you get any new ubuntuone related packages come down
[16:42] <popey> (I did this 10 minutes ago and I did)
[16:42] <barry> popey: nod, trying... thx
[16:43] <barry> popey: no new u1 packages coming...
[16:43] <popey> :(
[16:44] <barry> no change in preferences window either :(
[16:44] <popey> have you ever used u1 on that machine before?
[16:44] <barry> popey: nope
[16:45] <popey> barry: do you have a package called ubuntu-sso-client installed ?
[16:45] <barry> popey: apparently yes :)
[16:46] <barry> popey: interestingly, on my other mav desktop, i have no u1 entry under System -> Preferences.  but u1 still works (e.g. tomboy sync).  doing the apt-get dance above definitely does install a bunch of new u1 packages
[16:46] <popey> tomboy sync is a bit different from u1 file sync
[16:47] <popey> i suspect you can make tomboy file sync work without actually having any of the u1 packages installed
[16:49] <barry> popey: ah.  on that other desktop, the preferences panel comes up and i do see that i have the free plan, but still unknown name and email (which is odd, but that machine's an upgrade from lucid - the broken machine is clean mav from alpha)
[16:50] <barry> my browser has all the right account info though
[16:51] <popey> barry: what happens if you open a terminal and run "/usr/bin/python /usr/lib/ubuntu-sso-client/ubuntu-sso-login" ?
[16:52] <barry> Ubuntu One login manager already running, quitting
[16:52] <barry> (on the broken mav desktop)
[16:52] <popey> hmm
[16:53] <popey> well, I'm afraid you've exhausted my level of expertise here, sorry
[16:53] <barry> popey: no worries, thanks for the help :)
[16:53]  * beuno summons rye 
[16:53] <popey> unless you open a terminal and "ps aux | grep sso" and then kill the existing ubuntu-sso-login
[16:53] <popey> and try starting it again?
[16:53] <beuno> rye barry is one of my personal heroes, can you help him out?
[16:54] <popey> oh, blimey, I just realised to barry is
[16:54] <beuno> popey, so you where being all nice for free?
[16:54]  * popey waves a stick at barry after he just had to moderate 2700+ mails in a mailman list
[16:54]  * beuno pokes Chipaca in the knee
[16:54] <popey> thats how i roll
[16:54] <barry> popey: oh shit. i guess i'm glad you didn't realize who i was :)
[16:55] <popey> :)
[16:56] <beuno> nessita, maybe you know?
[16:56] <barry> beuno: the feeling is definitely mutual :)  and i like feeling the pain so our other users won't have to.  i am the Breakor of Systems, but it's usually the case that i'm not alone
[16:56]  * beuno hugs barry 
[16:57] <barry> popey: ftr, on the other mav machine, the one with the weird, but working preferences panel, i can definitely connect to u1 in nautilus and see my files
[16:57] <nessita> beuno: one sec, hasta las manos
[17:01] <beuno> barry, hold tight, I'll find someone who can help  :)
[17:01] <popey> Priority service huh
[17:01] <beuno> rye is our ninja suport guy
[17:01] <popey> :)
[17:02] <barry> beuno: no problem.  just ping me, i've got 5 irc sessions going on :)
[17:02] <beuno> popey, anyone who feeds me for a week gets priority anything!
[17:02] <popey> hehe
[17:03] <barry> popey: you're welcome at my place anytime.  ask beuno: every meal was a winner :)
[17:03] <beuno> yes it was!  I never thought I'd associate washington with good food, but there you go
[17:03] <popey> Very kind of you!
[17:04] <barry> we *really* should have a uds here :)
[17:05]  * popey wonders how barry would house 300+ geeks, let alone feed them
[17:06]  * barry has nice neighbors
[17:11]  * Chipaca pokes beuno back
[17:11] <Chipaca> beuno: qué?
[17:12] <Chipaca> beuno: I'm stopping for lunch. Holler if it's urgent (you've got my phone#)
[17:12] <beuno> coward
[17:12] <beuno-lunch> rye, if you check back, please help barry  :)
[17:19] <nessita> beuno-lunch: shoot
[17:23] <Chipaca> barry: what's the issue?
[17:23] <barry> Chipaca: hi!  i have a maverick desktop that i cannot register w/u1
[17:24] <Chipaca> barry: ok!
[17:24] <Chipaca> nessita: is the sso with the https ping url out?
[17:24] <barry> Chipaca: i see no link/option to register from System -> Preferences -> U1
[17:25] <Chipaca> barry: give me a sec
[17:25] <Chipaca> barry: /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.6/ubuntu_sso/main.py
[17:26] <Chipaca> barry: at the top of that there is a PING_URL='http://...', yes?
[17:26] <nessita> Chipaca: nopes
[17:26] <nessita> Chipaca: I'm trying to have it released, can I have a couple of reviews?
[17:26] <barry> PING_URL = "http://edge.one.ubuntu.com/oauth/sso-finished-so-get-tokens/"
[17:26] <Chipaca> barry: ok, change that to https
[17:26] <Chipaca> barry: killall ubuntu-sso-login
[17:26] <Chipaca> barry: and you should find peace :)
[17:27] <barry> Chipaca: hmm, i'm a little unconfortable hacking a file from a package.  is there something i should be installing/reinstalling instead?
[17:27] <Chipaca> umm... you might have to close down all the ubuntuone stuff you might have upp, for them to pick up the new ubuntu-sso-login. Not sure.
[17:27] <Chipaca> barry: or you can wait for nessita to package that fix
[17:27] <nessita> barry: I can give a fresh .deb package
[17:27] <nessita> barry: but you'll need latest ubuntuone-client
[17:28] <barry> nessita: if it's coming soon, i can wait til the new packages hit the archive
[17:28] <barry> Chipaca, nessita but what the heck, let me at least try that fix
[17:28] <nessita> barry: it should land today, I'm chasing reviewers :-)
[17:28] <barry> nessita: cool.  i'll wait then.  time for lunch anyway :)
[17:29] <barry> i'll continue to hang out here though and will let you know how it goes
[17:29] <barry> thanks guys!
[17:29] <nessita> barry: :-)
[19:46] <duanedesign> mkarnicki: /38
[19:46] <duanedesign> oops :P
[19:46] <mkarnicki> duanedesign: what was that ^ ^?
[19:47] <duanedesign>   /38 is a shortcut in irssi. I know, i have too many irc windows open :)
[19:48] <mkarnicki> :O holy shoot :D
[19:48] <mkarnicki> duanedesign: (I'm using it too, but I'm at 10 windows at the moment :D)
[19:48] <duanedesign> mkarnicki: i was just telling someone about your project on the forums. I used tab complete to get the spelling of your name and forgot it was still in the window
[19:48] <duanedesign> so when I went to change windows...
[19:48] <mkarnicki> duanedesign: oh! I do the same thing sometimes :) thanks for sharing!
[19:48] <mkarnicki> heheh
[19:49] <duanedesign> :P
[19:50] <mkarnicki> duanedesign: I haven't been on the forums for quite a while..
[19:51] <duanedesign> i go in phases. few days on, few days off
[19:52] <mkarnicki> I've been learning about Bugs and bug triaging today. Read quite a chunk of the wiki
[19:52] <duanedesign> oh cool
[19:55] <duanedesign> mkarnicki: if you plan to do Ubuntu One bugs, this is helpful https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/Bugs/WorkFlow
[19:55] <mkarnicki> duanedesign: quite a flow chart :D thanks for the link!
[19:56] <duanedesign> mkarnicki: this is another helpful one. Though this one is for bugs in general
[19:56] <duanedesign> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Responses
[19:57] <mkarnicki> duanedesign: Oh yes, the Knowledge Base from wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs is on my lecture list :)
[20:07] <duanedesign> mkarnicki: need to do some of my C lessons :) pointer fun. have a good rest of your day if i dont see you again.
[20:09] <mkarnicki> duanedesign: thanks :) happy C coding!
[20:25] <Fishscene> Has anyone had any issues when purchasing songs from the Ubuntu One Music store in the past 24 hours?
[20:34] <Fishscene> The status page says the services are running, but when I go to purchase music, it says "Your credit card couldn't be processed at this time. Please try again later, or use a different card or payment method."
[20:35] <Fishscene> I don't think it's a problem with my card as I was able to purchase a song 2 days ago and just yesterday, I purchased something else just fine.
[20:36] <beuno> Fishscene, I haven't seen problems, but lets check with mattgriffin
[20:37] <Fishscene> How would we do that? :P
[20:37] <mattgriffin> Fishscene, beuno: checked the sales stats. purchases are going through for customers
[20:37] <mattgriffin> Fishscene: what regional store are you using?
[20:38] <Fishscene> uhhh... I have no idea. I'm in the United States though. I did have a question about the card information though..
[20:38] <Fishscene> For example, it asks me for a start date on my card, but I do not have one.
[20:38] <mattgriffin> Fishscene: yeah... confusing field and a long standing bug that needs to get fixed. you can ignore the firle
[20:38] <mattgriffin> field
[20:38] <mattgriffin> :)
[20:38] <Fishscene> lol. That's what I did last time for my very first purchase and it worked :)
[20:39] <Fishscene> ok so, how do I tell which regional website I'm going to?
[20:39] <mattgriffin> heh. go to the home page of the store. it will say "US", "UK", etc.
[20:39] <mattgriffin> at the top
[20:39] <mattgriffin> if you're in the US, you are auto-routed to the US store
[20:39] <Fishscene> "US Top Picks"
[20:40] <mattgriffin> Fishscene: so leaving the start date field blank doesn't work?
[20:40] <Fishscene> Apparently not. O_o
[20:41]  * mattgriffin tries... 1 sec
[20:43] <mattgriffin>  Fishscene: do you get an error in the music store when you click the Continue button?
[20:43] <Fishscene> Just a second here.. lol
[20:43] <mattgriffin> :)
[20:44] <Fishscene> Where is that continue button located? on the creditcard information screen?
[20:45] <mattgriffin> Fishscene: it might not say continue for your. what is the button at the bottom of the credit card entry page for you?
[20:46] <Fishscene> It says Continue.
[20:47] <mattgriffin> Fishscene: ok. what happens when you type in your cc details and click Continue? Does an error message appear?
[20:47] <Fishscene> There is also a field called "Issue Number" (switch only)
[20:47] <Fishscene> I assume I can ignore that too? (Since I did the last time I successfully purchased)
[20:47] <mattgriffin> Fishscene: yeah. not for the US card types. ignore it
[20:48] <Fishscene> ok. When I click continue, the button turns orange and says "please wait" then it loads a webpage with the error saying my card couldn't be processed.
[20:49] <Fishscene> Also, it let me correct the card information and all the fields in gray have been reset. (Card Type: Visa Credit) (Country: United Kingdom) (Start and end dates are all blank)
[20:50] <mattgriffin> Fishscene: have you checked your email just in case? no payment confirmation messages?
[20:50] <Fishscene> uhhhh let me double-check my spam folder
[20:50] <mattgriffin> Fishscene: ok
[20:51] <Fishscene> No e-mails. This would be the 5th time it has failed in the past 12 hours and I have not received any e-mails.
[20:52] <mattgriffin> Fishscene: ok. did you do your first purchase through Paypal? the store should remember your card information from the first purchase.
[20:52] <mattgriffin> if you used a credit card
[20:53] <Fishscene> I used a card and it saved the information, however, that failed too. So in trying to diagnose the problem, I deleted the card and made a new one entry, however, since it won't go through, I seem to be unable to save the new card info.
[20:53] <mattgriffin> Fishscene: gotcha. try closing and re-opening Rbox, add the song/album to your cart, and then try the purchase again (ignoring the extra fields like your first purchase)
[20:54] <mattgriffin> Fishscene: sometimes the store does funky session things if you leave it open for a while without doing anything
[20:54] <Fishscene> Actually, I've done that several times
[20:54] <mattgriffin> Fishscene: heh. ok :(
[20:54] <Fishscene> Including rebooting the computer, just to make sure it clears everything.
[20:55] <Fishscene> one more thing
[20:55] <Fishscene> This is all on Ubuntu Netbook Edition
[20:55] <mattgriffin> Fishscene: 10.04 or maverick?
[20:55] <Fishscene> 10.04
[20:56] <Fishscene> All the latest updates as of last night.
[20:56] <mattgriffin> Fishscene: hmm... that should work fine. tested it myself many times
[20:56] <mattgriffin> Fishscene: i'm going to try a test purchase... gimmie a few min please
[20:56] <Fishscene> I didn't think there would be any difference, but I thought I'd mention it just the same in case there *was* something goony going on.
[20:56] <Fishscene> ok
[20:58] <mattgriffin> Fishscene: hmm... new Interpol for $5 :)
[20:59] <Fishscene> lol
[20:59] <Fishscene> I'm going to try on a regular Ubuntu installation and see if that makes a difference.
[20:59] <mattgriffin> Fishscene: what card type were you using?
[21:00] <Fishscene> Mind if PM you?
[21:00] <mattgriffin> np
[21:17] <Chipaca> rye: ping
[21:18] <rye> Chipaca, pong
[21:18] <Chipaca> rye: I'm fixing the "sd ends up not connected because it takes too long to local rescan"
[21:18] <Chipaca> rye: :)
[21:19] <rye> Chipaca, how?
[21:19] <Chipaca> rye: waiting for the READY state before telling it to connect :)
[21:19] <Chipaca> rye: yes, I know you'd rather it not take 45 minutes to local rescan on some computers
[21:23] <rye> Chipaca, is there anything possible to delay syncdaemon startup ... i.e. not start it up on nautilus startup?... In order not to kill the login time?
[21:27] <rye> Chipaca, something like fake syncdaemon that will tell the nautilus that there's noone to pick up the phone...
[21:31] <Chipaca> rye: that is a separate bug, worked on by rodrigo. The current behavior is a regression and he's fixing it.
[21:50] <rye> Chipaca, how about adding a new routine in libsyncdaemon that will check whether syncdaemon is running before autostarting it?
[21:50] <rye> Chipaca, by sensing the dbus
[21:51] <Chipaca> rye: libsyncdaemon should not autostart it, that is the bug
[21:51] <rye> Chipaca, should i file it?
[21:51] <Chipaca> rye: if the user has disabled it, she probably did it for a reason
[21:51] <Chipaca> rye: rodrigo is already working on it
[21:51] <rye> ah wow
[21:53] <Chipaca> give me a sec to find it
[21:53] <Chipaca> it's a critical in ubuntuone-client, shouldn't be hard to spot
[21:55] <Chipaca> rye: #613219
[21:55] <rye> Chipaca, today I was bug report writer, not a bug report reader
[21:55] <Chipaca> the critical is a dupe of that one :)
[21:55] <Chipaca> #618225
[21:55] <Chipaca> :)
[21:57] <rye> Chipaca, the one that i submitted with a different title and description :)... well, sorry about original wording
[22:04] <Chipaca> here, a clicky: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+bug/618225
[22:04] <Chipaca> rye: ^ that's a bugreport by you!
[22:04] <Chipaca> which I totally revamped :)
[22:04] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 618225 in ubuntuone-client "nautilus plugin starts syncdaemon (and it shouldn't) (dup-of: 613219)" [Critical,Triaged]
[22:04] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 613219 in ubuntuone-client (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 2 other projects) "ubuntuone-syncdaemon is started even if disabled from "Startup applications" (affects: 4) (dups: 1) (heat: 120)" [Medium,Confirmed]
[22:06] <nessita> rye: still around? get some sleep dude :-)
[22:07] <rye> nessita, will, unfortunately taking a day off tomorrow so no no more bug reports from me
[22:07] <Chipaca> darn!
[22:07] <Chipaca> so i have to get this branch up right *now*!
[22:10] <Chipaca> lp:~chipaca/ubuntuone-client/fix-u1launch
[22:11] <Chipaca> rye: I forgot the --fixes, will commit that, push and do the merge. If you want to test?
[22:15] <dobey> hrmm, it would be nice if we could mark autostart entries as "you can't disable this" someehow
[22:16] <Chipaca> dobey: what for?
[22:17] <dobey> to keep people from thinking that it will actually disable the start-up of certain items
[22:17] <Chipaca> dobey: it's a bug! we shouldn't be starting :)
[22:18] <dobey> it's not a bug. beacause that dialog does not alter any actual configuration data anywhere
[22:18] <Chipaca> dobey: which dialog?
[22:18] <dobey> System->Preferences->Startup Applications
[22:20] <dobey> all it does is copy a .desktop file to the user's $XDG_CONFIG_HOME/autostart directory, and changes a key in it. the two ways to figure out if something is disabled or not, are: 1) evil and 2) more eviler evil
[22:21] <Chipaca> :) now I gotcha
[22:22] <dobey> syncdaemon is going to start if something else in the session requests it to start. that's how DBus works. it's the same as if you disable the keyring or something, and then another app says "hey, guess what, i'm gonna poke at the keyring"
[22:23] <dobey> i think for narwhal we should make it always start at log-in, and have people file a million bugs saying how slow logging in is, and assign them all to foundations+ so they can make syncdaemon fast ;)
[22:23] <Chipaca> rye: is there a bug about syncdaemon metadata usage OM NOMming?
[22:24] <rye> Chipaca, bug #436612 ?
[22:24] <dobey> i'm pretty sure there is an "ubuntuone ate my babies" bug somewhere on launchpad
[22:24] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 436612 in ubuntuone-client "Need to profile metadata loading to see if it's too slow (affects: 3) (heat: 8)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/436612
[22:24] <dobey> heh
[22:25] <Chipaca> actually I think "syncdaemon blocks while doing local rescan" is a bug on its own
[22:26] <Chipaca> rye: it was probably something about ubuntuone-launch not connecting or sth
[22:26] <rye> Chipaca, heh, if you search for dbus....
[22:26]  * Chipaca searches
[22:27] <rye> bug #525743 , bug #518027
[22:27] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 525743 in ubuntuone-client "Syncdaemon should reply to dbus call first and then perform fsm metadata index (affects: 1) (heat: 7)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/525743
[22:27] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 518027 in ubuntuone-client (Ubuntu) "ubuntuone-client doesn't start syncdaemon over DBus, timeout (affects: 1) (heat: 16)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/518027
[22:27] <Chipaca> rye: your launchpad fu is 3x mine.
[22:27] <rye> Chipaca, i filed some of them :)
[22:29] <Chipaca> https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~chipaca/ubuntuone-client/fix-u1launch/+merge/34924
[22:29] <Chipaca> rye: ^
[22:31] <rye> Chipaca, hm... your offering pleases me
[22:33] <Chipaca> oh, forgot to mention, it also does not try to start syncdaemon if file sync is disabled (rather than trying and having syncdaemon come back with "nope")
[22:33]  * rye is testing...
[22:35] <Chipaca> dobey: question for you, god of tarmac
[22:35]  * Chipaca grovels appropriately
[22:35] <dobey> hi
[22:35] <Chipaca> dobey: I've linked bugs to a branch, but those bugs are not fixed by the branch
[22:35] <Chipaca> dobey: will tarmac get funny ideas?
[22:35] <dobey> linked how?
[22:35] <Chipaca> launchpad
[22:36] <dobey> i don't think using the lp ui to create bug links adds the metadata to the bzr revision, so it should be ok
[22:36] <Chipaca> ok
[22:36] <dobey> if it does stick it in the branch's revision, tarmac will mark it fix committed
[22:36] <dobey> so i guess we'll find out :)
[22:38] <Chipaca> dear whateveritis: stop disconnecting me
[22:42] <rye> erm
[22:42] <rye> Chipaca, are you 100% sure from ubuntuone.syncdaemon.clientdefs import APP_NAME as .. ?
[22:43] <Chipaca> rye: gimme a sec
[22:43] <dobey> You have exceeded your quota for recipe ubuntuone-hackers/client-dailies for distroseries ubuntu maverick
[22:43] <dobey> what the heck
[22:43] <Chipaca> gah, no
[22:44]  * rye is preparing Needs Fixing stamp...
[22:44] <Chipaca> rye: ubuntuone.clientdefs
[22:44] <Chipaca> pushing fix
[22:44] <Chipaca> my ubuntuone.syncdaemon.clientdefs was bogus
[22:45] <Chipaca> rye: pushed
[22:45] <Chipaca> rye: r686
[22:47] <rye> hm, strange, even w/o launcher i get syncdaemon started
[22:47] <rye> but launcher looks ok now
[22:47] <Chipaca> rye: nautilus bug rodrigo is working on, remember?
[22:47] <Chipaca> rye: not fixed yet
[22:47] <rye> Chipaca, i removed the nautilus module
[22:47] <Chipaca> ah
[22:48] <Chipaca> wee urd
[22:49] <rye> back to testing
[23:01] <Chipaca> barry: no release yet, i don't think
[23:04] <Chipaca> ooh, a rye!
[23:06] <rye> Chipaca, well, i think that branch is ok, so approving it, yet I have something in my system that calls syncdaemon early on login - will find it later since that does not look like ubuntuone-launch
[23:07] <rye> Chipaca, and it definitely got connected after login, so it is awesome
[23:07]  * rye will create 4K empty folders for syncdaemon login lag... but later
[23:09] <rye> okay, later all, see you soon!