[00:01] its not that I can't switch its that I can't unlock the window [00:02] so you don't have the password? [00:03] harrisonk, i'm looking at the syslog file, what are we looking for? [00:06] a crash some where [00:07] its a friends computer I am trying to fix [00:08] harrisonk, have you searched the file for the word "error" yet? [00:08] I think it has somthing to do with X [00:08] I might have, Did you? [00:09] yeah, i'm doing it now. i don't know what device "sr0" is [00:09] i would think that anything that might have caused the crash would be logged as "error" [00:10] I just did and there are lots but They might not be realated to the system crashing [00:11] seidos what browser are you using? [00:11] harrisonk, this link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=678096 says sr0 is probably just a dirty optical drive, so, nevermind that. [00:11] harrisonk, firefox, why? [00:13] harrisonk, when did the system crash? [00:17] it crashes often at unexpected times [00:18] about the browser in chrome the word search funtion shows where the found words are on the scroll bar [00:18] i don't know, i'm not that good at reading the syslog. but it doesn't look like it logged anything that is necessarily causing the problem. [00:18] harrisonk, i don't use chrome because i can't select my own colors for web pages [00:19] harrisonk, maybe try to use the system without attaching removable devices, and using the optical drive? see if you can recreate the problem? [00:20] or just don't use the optical drive, keep the other drives attached [00:20] see if it happens that way [00:23] seidos sorry my laptop battery died === harrison is now known as harrisonk [00:24] about 2/3 of the way throught the log there are errors galore [00:24] harrisonk, my laptop battery is truly dead. it can no longer hold a decent charge. [00:25] harrisonk, sr0 i/o errors? [00:27] my friend did say that she had problems with the cd drive not reading cds [00:29] well, that could be a hardware problem [00:30] if you have an extra optical drive, you can swap it out see if the errors persist [00:30] maybe the optical drive errors are related to the system crash? [00:30] at around sep 7 12:17:42 there might be the sulution to the problem [00:31] no the optical drive bearly gets used [00:34] 42. [00:34] i don't know what bonobo-activation-server is. [00:36] around there I just picked that time to get to that area [00:36] harrisonk, you might be right. it does appear that bonobo-activation-server is a necessary component for gnome [00:37] also my friend said that banging the mouse around helped with the crashes and right before the gpu hangs the mouse is doing something [00:37] harrisonk, did your friend upgrade her kernel? maybe try booting with a different kernel from grub? i noticed i915 errors also [00:39] it happened right from the start with 10.04. 9.10 worked perfectly except the usb modem she recived doesn't connect in 9.10 [00:39] harrisonk, can you do an alt-f1 to got a terminal when the desktop sessions crashes? [00:39] no [00:40] it goes to a screen with the ubuntu above the 5 dots and flashes betwean that and a screen with black bars [00:41] i've had bad luck with 10.04 as well. i thought it was my hardware though. [00:41] harrisonk, is it a desktop? or a laptop? [00:42] if you can't get to the login screen, then the error is occurring before xorg. [00:44] its a desktop [00:44] she can login and do things like that its just the desktop crashes from time to time [00:47] seidos you might be right about the sr0 being some of the problem [00:48] harrisonk, i don't know. i didn't catch those i915 errors. it would be interesting to see if the system could run in a terminal without crashing. [00:49] it sounds like a video driver error. i don't know about the i915, i'm pretty sure the drivers are included in the kernel. [00:49] i have an intel gm960/965 [00:51] in one of the logs she sent me I found that device sr0 had a problem right before the system rebooted but in the log you see it looks diferent [00:51] the other log is: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/489758/ [00:53] what was that ubuntuforums thread about sr0? [00:58] harrisonk, it just said that sr0 is usually an optical drive [00:58] harrisonk, i have to wash dishes, brb [00:59] okay [01:06] harrisonk, i'm back [01:06] that was quick [01:06] for washing dishes [01:06] there weren't that many [01:07] I found the ubuntuforums page [01:08] harrisonk, i don't see how sr0 would cause a desktop crash. let me clarify, it crashes the whole system? so is it a freeze or a reset? [01:08] a freeze [01:09] the reboot is by the button on the front of the computer [01:09] harrisonk, have you considered installing the karmic kernel, to see what that does? [01:09] harrisonk, a reset can occur as a result of an error [01:09] ? [01:09] Karmic is already installed [01:10] harrisonk, earlier you said 10.04 was installed. you are using kernel 2.6.32, that's the lucid kernel [01:11] harrisonk, 9.10 is karmic koala, 10.04 is lucid lynx? [01:11] sorry I had a mixup there [01:11] it's 8 PM here and I am not quite awake [01:11] well, actually, using the karmic kernel in 10.04 is probably a bad idea [01:12] some software might not work. it would probably be better just to install 9.10 again. [01:12] what about installing the lucid kernel in karmic? [01:13] harrisonk, you would still have problems with certain software packages, i mean, it's your system, you can try whatever you want, really. [01:13] harrisonk, i had installed kernel 2.6.30 in jaunty, and couldn't get virtual box to work, but otherwise the system was fine. [01:14] 9.10 won't work unless an at&t usb modem works with it. [01:14] the at&t usb modem works with 10.04? [01:14] yes [01:14] not 9.10 [01:14] my thinking is that the problem you are having is caused by a driver issue with the i915 graphics chip in the system [01:14] posibly [01:15] you could try kernel 2.6.32 in karmic, just to confirm if the problem is with the kernel [01:15] if it is, you should create a bug in launchpad. i could help with you with creating the bug if you'd like. [01:15] the expantion is limited to 3 pci slots, so to use a video card it would be a pci one [01:16] yes please, its just the computer is an hour away [01:17] would that be a problem? [01:18] * harrisonk is away for a moment [01:19] harrisonk, the computer being an hour away, i don't know if it's a problem. is it a problem for you? [01:21] I'm trying to install vmware server on ubuntu server and I'm Stuck [01:21] * harrisonk is back [01:22] lets go with the bug report [01:24] harrisonk, all right. http://launchpad.net/ubuntu. you can search to see if there is already a bug for your problem. [01:25] Can anyone help with getting vmware for ubuntu installed? [01:25] johnny_, vmware isn't free software is it? [01:25] Yes [01:26] johnny_, does vmware offer support? [01:26] They provide you with a key for both windows and linux [01:26] yes they charge for it. [01:27] I want to play aroud with it and see how it works [01:27] johnny_, you could try #vmware. they might be more help. [01:27] o'okay thatnsk [01:29] harrisonk, sorry, here's a more specific link [01:32] harrisonk, are you suspending the system before it crashes? [01:33] no you can be working away and poof it crashes [01:40] seidos still there? [01:41] harrisonk, yeah, i'm search launchpad to see if someone else created a bug similar to yours, but i can't find anything. [01:43] okay did you search for i915 [01:44] harrisonk, yeah, i searched for "i915 crash" and "10.04 crash" but nothing really seems like a hit [01:44] harrisonk, what kind of video chipset do you have on your personal system? [01:45] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/528467 [01:45] Launchpad bug 528467 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "[i855] GPU hung (drm i915 intel) on Lucid Lynx (affects: 74) (dups: 2) (heat: 246)" [High,Confirmed] [01:46] I honestly don't know. [01:48] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/563455 [01:48] Launchpad bug 563455 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) "Xorg crashes (affects: 1) (heat: 26)" [Undecided,Confirmed] [01:48] If I have a movie-dvd that ubuntu refuses to read, what can I do? (I can see other movie-dvds and play them in vlc) [01:48] harrisonk, in this bug, a reinstall of lucid is said to fix the problem. [01:49] bobo123, er, i've heard of this problem before. i think there is a directory that you have to empty or something [01:50] ok....? [01:51] some .hidden directoy in my homedirectory or? [01:52] bobo123, scratch that. i don't remember now. i am checking the forums: http://ubuntu-virginia.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1264978 [01:52] ok [01:52] seidos what bug? [01:54] harrisonk, this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/563455 [01:54] Launchpad bug 563455 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) "Xorg crashes (affects: 1) (heat: 26)" [Undecided,Confirmed] [01:55] harrisonk, was going to ask, was your install an upgrade to 10.04 from karmic? or a clean install? [01:59] bobo123, from http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-194469.html: Looks like you don't have libdvdread3 installed. You can search for it in Synaptic. Install it. [01:59] Then run "sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh". [02:04] seidos I submited a bug. [02:05] I will wait and see what happens and maybe come back here and ask again. [02:05] * harrisonk is offline [02:09] seidos: I have libdvdread4 installed though... but no 3 [02:12] bobo123, what error do you get? i am just going to google it, since i don't watch dvd discs on my laptop. [02:13] bobo123: what aer you trying to do? [02:14] bobo123: do you have libdvdcss installed [02:15] bobo123: your going to need that ^^ to play encrypted movies [02:15] yes I have libdvdread4, libdvdnav4 and libdvdcss2 installed [02:16] brb shower time [02:16] bobo123, can you take a screen shot of the error and post it on http://imagebin.org? [02:16] i just need something specific to search for on google. [02:17] when I play other dvds (and they work fines), when I insert them in to the drive the filemanager opens a window for that disk btw, but not when I insert this disk. I have played it on another computer with windows so it shouldn't be a bad disk. (I havent tried with windows on this computer though) [02:18] ok I make some screenshots [02:18] i just want the specific error in totem, if there is one [02:18] and what movie [02:20] bobo123, do you have ubuntu-restricted-extras installed? [02:23] wait while I look. [02:25] http://imagebin.org/113307 small errormessage in swedish that isn't verry important. [02:25] http://imagebin.org/113308 the message window ← this is the interesting one I guess [02:25] http://imagebin.org/113309 the message window but with information level set to 2 instead [02:27] If I check 'no dvd-menus' checkbox I get these instead: http://imagebin.org/113311 and http://imagebin.org/113313 [02:29] yea, gotta get those ubuntu-restricted-extras [02:31] bobo123, a quick way, just type "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras" in terminal [02:32] pedro3005: no I don't have the metapackage ubuntu-restricted-extras installed since I don't want to have java installed. The packages that is non-java that it depends on seems to be gstreamer0.10-pitfdll, gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse, gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse, libmp4v2-0. It allso mentions upgrading of 'tzdata'. Perhaps I should install those? [02:33] bobo123, couldn't hurt [02:42] seidos, pedro3005, now I have installed them but no difference. [02:42] bobo123, why not install ubuntu-restricted-extras, see if that fixes the problem, if it does, you can remove the java stuff you don't want? [02:45] seidos: I have installed all ubuntu-restricted-extras that is not java now so it shouldn't mather now... [02:46] seidos, bobo123: What seems to be the problem? [02:46] when I try open it in gnome mplayer instead of vlc I get this message "Couldn't open DVD device: to socket. mplayer: No such file or directory. Failed to open LIRC support. You will not be able to use your remote control. libdvdread: Using libdvdcss version 1.2.10 for DVD access. libdvdread: Could not open /dev/dvd with libdvdcss. libdvdread: Can't open /dev/dvd for reading. Couldn't open DVD device: /dev/dvd (No medium found). No str [02:47] same text here with linebreaks http://paste.ubuntu.com/490665/ [02:48] bobo123, what dvd is it? [02:48] bobo123: did you run the install-css script? [02:53] seidos: it is some stupid for-kids-video that my sister want to look at that she borrowed from a friend "Pauline på bondgården/op de Borderij" seems to be two-language Swedish/Dutch. It allso says EDITION ATLAS (c)2007 nomet management services (c)2007 ASTER [02:53] allso is printed on it PAL and ALL ZONES [02:54] aveilleux: yes [02:55] bobo123, did you install w32codecs? it is supposed to be included in ubuntu-restricted-extras [02:55] bobo123: It sounds like the DVD you're trying to play isn't encoded for the US (NTSC is most of North America) [02:56] bobo123, i'm assuming you are using a standard 32bit install of ubuntu [03:00] aveilleux: it was libdvdread4/install-css though, not 3... I guess it is just newer? here is the output from when I was running that; http://paste.ubuntu.com/490669/ [03:01] seidos: yes it is standard 32bit ubuntu 10.04 [03:01] bobo123: Wait, you're Swedish? That would have been nice to know haha. Disregard my conclusion. [03:03] seidos: I can't find any package w32codecs in synaptic... perhaps I am missing some repository? [03:04] bobo123, try "sudo apt-get install w32codecs" in a terminal [03:05] bobo123: You have to install the Medibuntu repository. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu [03:07] seidos: when I do it answers http://paste.ubuntu.com/490672/ that translated to english whould be "Package w32codecs is not available, but another package refers to it. This could mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is available from other sources E: Package w32codecs has no installation candidate" [03:08] aveilleux: yeah I will try Medibuntu repository now [03:18] bobo123, if that doesn't work, you can try out this guide for anything we all might have missed: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Lucid#DVD_Playback_Capability [03:23] now I have installed medibuntu-repository and w32codecs. seems to be a nice pack of divx/quicktime/realvideo/windowsmedia etc codecs [03:25] * bobo123 wishes the authentication keys for all these extra repositories was in ubuntu from the start.... (not the repositories but the the keys) [03:25] i think i'm going to have to install some food in a minute :) [03:25] hehehe [03:25] bobo123, me too, but i think there are copyright problems. :( [03:27] can someone help me out with rhythmbox plugin? [03:27] the upnp one? [03:27] bdogg, i would, but i don't know what upnp is [03:28] http://coherence.beebits.net/wiki/RhythmBox [03:28] upnp is a somewhat badly named protocol for punching holes in your firewall/homerouter [03:28] this plugin [03:29] oh, *that* upnp. universal plug 'n play? [03:29] i just want to stream my music to my xbox [03:29] but i dont know how to configure the plugin to do that [03:29] I can't think of anya other upnp ... are there others? [03:30] bobo123, probably not. i was just surprised to hear it. i haven't heard it in awhile, and didn't know it related to rhythmbox [03:30] its included with the maverick rhythmbox [03:30] bdogg, can't you just use samba to share your files on your network, then tell your xbox to play them from there? [03:31] files == mp3 files [03:31] O.o [03:31] whats samba [03:31] I guess if you want to stream *from* rhythmbox (didn't know it was possible) to a computer *outside* your home network, you would need upnp (or open up the ports manually), but I guess your xbox are at your home? you shouldn't need upnp then.... right? [03:31] samba is a file server for sharing files. i haven't used it in years though, but i think it should work. [03:31] yes [03:32] so samba? [03:32] any tips? [03:32] bobo123, that's true, it would be on the same LAN [03:32] yes its on the same network [03:32] bdogg, you could try sudo apt-get install samba, then google for "ubuntu samba guide" [03:32] will do [03:32] bdogg, good luck, come back and let us know how it goes :) [03:33] kk [03:33] brb need to install food into my stomach [03:33] bdogg: (samba = smb = cifs = the normal file&printer sharing in windows etc) [03:33] sudo apt-get install sandwich? [03:34] :-D [03:34] sudo apt-get install sandwich && sudo apt-get install tornado [03:34] lol why tornado? [03:34] is that some sort of snack or somthing? [03:35] tornado is like this brand of taquito [03:35] chips? [03:35] whats taquito? lol im hispanic... tacos? [03:35] lol [03:35] they swirl around in your stomach around round round... or? ;-) [03:36] kind of like this: http://www.elmonterey.com/mexicanrecipes/quickcombos/ [03:37] why am i still sitting here?! [03:37] lol go! go eat! === [styx] is now known as [sleepy] === [sleepy] is now known as [styx] [04:19] I hope the sandwich&tornado was good seidos :-) [04:19] bobo123, it was good thanks for asking. [04:22] Now that I'v read some more I guess the unplayable dvd here is probably having some evil™ copy protection like ARccOS or something I guess so we can't see it without using some special (windows) ripping program first :-/ [04:23] bobo123, only a windows ripping program? for your kid dvd? [04:33] I don't know. I guess there must be something for linux too. [04:33] bobo123, i don't know, there was something about dvd ripping software in ubuntu in that guide i sent you. [04:33] and strange that least interesting things are hardest too see :-D [04:33] but i closed it [04:33] hehe [04:34] bobo123, it's like that with other least interesting things. like math. it is hard for me to see math. [04:34] hahaha [04:37] oh math is simple. 1+2*3 and differentials of functions... [04:38] it's easy for me up until double and triple integrals. [04:38] I am having problems with my wireless connection [04:38] well, as long as i can remember the axioms and theorems [04:38] Sharla, what ver of ubuntu? [04:38] Netbook remix [04:39] Sharla: What kind of problems are you having? [04:39] Sharla: Also, which version of UNR... 9.10, 10.04, etc [04:39] it won't connect. it acts like it is searching, then says disconnected [04:39] Sharla: Do you use encryption/security on your wireless network [04:39] ?* [04:39] hmmm, i've had that happen with my wireless chipset [04:40] it's an atheros 5001 [04:40] I just downloaded it a few weeks ago [04:40] i am new to this so i don't know what version [04:40] Sharla: So you're using 10.04. [04:41] the network is encrypted, and I don't get an error when I type my passphrase [04:41] Sharla: Can you open Terminal and run the following command: lspci -v | less [04:41] Sharla: Then paste the output at http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/. [04:41] er, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/ (without the period) [04:45] after the first command, it won't let me type the http://pastebin.ubuntu.com [04:45] Sharla: Try this. lspci -v | less > wireless.txt [04:46] Sharla: Then upen your Home directory (Places > Home Folder) and open the text file wireless.txt [04:46] Then paste its contents into the box at http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/ [04:46] upen -> open [04:46] that command didn't do anything [04:47] Sharla, lspci | grep Ethernet in a terminal? [04:47] i don't think i know enough about programming to even be in here. :( [04:48] i was advised to install ubuntu on my new netbook because it would take less memory than windows but i didn't realize it would be troublesome to set up [04:48] i appreciate the help guys but i have no idea what any of it means. [04:48] Sharla, we're trying to figure out what wireless chipset you have. [04:48] Sharla, there's no problem. we're all just sharing our computer experience :) [04:49] Sharla: I'm not asking you to program. Do you know how to copy text from the Terminal? [04:49] i know and I appreciate it [04:49] well I'm chatting on my desktop [04:49] with my netbook in front of me [04:49] Sharla, would you like to start with something simpler? [04:49] sure, like what? [04:50] Sharla, is there a button or a switch to turn off the wireless on your netbook? [04:50] yes, and i did try to make sure it is on [04:50] the light was flashing earlier when it was trying to connect [04:50] Sharla: Are you making sure all the symbols are correct? | is a bar, not a lowercase L. [04:50] Yes, I typed it that way [04:50] are they case sensitive? [04:51] Sharla: Yes, very [04:51] Sharla: All commands in Linux are lowercase, with a few exceptions [04:51] OK that is how i typed it [04:51] i will try to log in to chat on the netbook since i'm wired in right now. [04:51] Sharla: Can you get to your Home folder? It's like My Documents in Windows. [04:52] OK [04:53] looking at it now [04:53] it only has one other folder in it, the one withmy username [04:53] Erm, yes. That's the one I'm talking about. [04:53] OK [04:53] Sharla: See the file wireless.txt in it? [04:54] yes [04:54] hello [04:55] could anyone help me setup a ubuntu vps? [04:55] Sharla: Open it, then copy and paste its contents into the pastebin I linked earlier [04:55] sthd56: Is this a standard Ubuntu install? [04:55] yea, it's already installed I'm just trying to change the port which putty connects on [04:56] i tried editing the sshd_config but i keep getting fatal errors when using that port [04:56] OK I am going to try switching to chat from the netbook [04:56] do you need ALL the info in that wireless text file? [04:56] is that safe? [04:57] Sharla: nothing in there can bring you any harm. It's just hardware diagnostic information. [04:57] OK [04:57] OK that's me, firecracker. Logging out on this screen. [04:57] Can anyone tell me how to change my time zone? [04:57] sdrennan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime [04:57] Thanks let me look there [04:58] sthd56: Networking in general isn't my strong point, but here's a good starting point for VPNs https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VPN [04:58] ok pasted [04:58] firecracker: I need the Pastebin link to look at it.... [04:59] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/490708/ [04:59] sthd56: Wait no, you said VPS, not VPN. My mistake. [05:00] yea [05:00] Sarla, we have the same wireless chip :) [05:00] right now im connecting with putty on the default port 22 and I would like to change that [05:00] sthd56: http://forums.spry.com/centos-fedora-redhat/98-change-ssh-port.html This forum post was linked to from a guide I found [05:01] ok i'll take a look thanks [05:01] seidos: is that a good thing? should i not be having any trouble with it? [05:01] I don't have the option to adjust time and date. System/Admin/Time and Date is ghosted. It doesn't give me an option to authenticate. [05:01] sdrennan: Is this the normal Ubuntu install, or Netbook Remix? [05:02] Normal on a notebook [05:02] sdrennan: Let me get my Ubuntu machine up [05:02] firecracker, we have the same wireless chip. what works for me when i can't connect to the access point, is i have to turn off wireless on the network icon by right clicking and de-selecting wireless, then i have to turn off the wireless button/switch on the outside of my laptop. leave it for a few seconds, then turn everything back on, and it works \o/ [05:03] interesting [05:03] that guide seems to be for redhat how do i reload a service in ubuntu? [05:03] wonder if i can try that without unplugging the wire? [05:03] sthd56: sudo service restart [05:03] firecracker, yeah, shouldn't be a problem [05:03] ok thanks [05:03] firecracker, it's a good thing because i know a work around, as for whether you should have problems, that's kind of a political/philosophical/technological question O_o [05:04] aveilleux I have ran TXSELECT at the prompt but I no speak the Lynux language [05:04] :) [05:04] well i have three motorcycles, two jeeps and two vintage vehicles. so i am used to workarounds and stuff that breaks. i am just clueless when it comes to electronics [05:05] firecracker, i used to have a ninja 250, but i had to sell it :( [05:05] ok the port was changed thank you so much [05:05] sdrennan: txselect? Just run sudo dpkg-reconfigure yzdata [05:05] sdrennan: that [05:05] 's so much easier [05:05] my marauder is about ready to go down the road [05:05] * aveilleux fumes at the stupid location of the Mac's Return key [05:05] maurader? what is it like 1200cc? [05:06] 800 [05:06] it is the cursed bike [05:06] ment TZSELECT i'll try sudo dpkg-reconfigure yzdata [05:06] my clutch lever broke on my ninja 250 when i had it. i replaced it myself, thankfully they had the part at the shop. [05:07] firecracker, i'm scared to ask, but did it work? [05:07] not yet [05:07] it is still trying [05:07] sdrennan: but it's a GUI-based system... what do you need help with? [05:07] it has asked me for my passphrase twice [05:07] and the little waves are still going [05:07] Can't change time zone [05:08] sudo dpkg-reconfigure yzdata says not installed [05:08] sdrennan: Did you sudo? [05:08] .... [05:08] tzdata [05:08] firecracker, it asked for your pass phrase twice, that's a bad sign. when i turn off wireless in software, then turn off the hardware switch, after i turn both back on, it works fine. [05:08] not yzdata [05:08] going back in [05:09] what does "must be run as root" mean [05:10] sdrennan: It means put "sudo" in front of the command, like I said the first time [05:11] Ok i disabled the wireless [05:11] but now i can't get it to come back on [05:12] I'm not used to this language but it says its where i want it. Will I have to restart to change the time on the clock? [05:13] sdrennan: Logging out and logging back in should do it. [05:13] Thanks a million. let me see what happens. [05:16] leaving briefly to restart machine [05:16] not letting me turnt he wireless back on [05:16] firecracker, well, rebooting should definitely get it working again, but the trick is to get it working without rebooting :/ [05:23] hello [05:23] hello dirgan [05:26] no luck [05:26] hello everybody [05:26] about ready to pitch this thing out the door [05:27] firecracker, restarting didn't get it connect to your wireless network? [05:28] no. [05:28] twice. [05:28] and now i'm getting the "i told you so" speech [05:28] but i already erased windows from my machine [05:28] and i just want to use my computer [05:28] sorry [05:28] well, you made the morally correct choice. [05:29] unless you're really a fan of the bill and melinda gates foundation O_o [05:29] firecracker: Just making sure, did you make sure to flip the switch back on and re-enable the wireless by right-clicking the icon? [05:29] firecracker, i'm trying to think of the next step. [05:29] firecracker: You can't do this if the machine is plugged in, I don't think [05:30] oh i thought i could??? [05:30] Yes i did both of those steps [05:30] firecracker, i could've been wrong. i haven't actually tried it on my laptop. [05:30] Ok going to unplug and try it [05:30] firecracker, i assumed the ubuntu magic would let you connect to the wireless network. [05:31] if only [05:31] let me try it here at home, and see what happens [05:36] well [05:36] apparently it was the router itself. [05:36] rebooted that, and voila. [05:36] *#&@$^(@*(@!*!@#*&@#*&!(@(*!^#@W$^*(@#!( hardware. [05:38] sorry for the dumb questions, and thanks everyone for your help. [05:39] may i Ask why geforce 8400 gs won' work for 10.04 version? [05:42] well, that was an interesting experiment [05:42] it looks like connecting to wired while i was already connected to wireless disconnected me from irc? [05:42] i had two ip's though according to ifconfig [05:42] dirgan: The 8400 GS is supported through the nvidia-glx driver [05:43]