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nigelb_james_w`: ping?03:13
james_w`hi nigelb_03:13
nigelb_james_w`: just letting you know that its our month for package training :)03:14
nigelb_I managed to get one class, though we need a few more03:14
ajmitchnigelb_: what do you plan to teach us?03:14
james_w`nigelb_: nice, thanks :-)03:14
nigelb_ajmitch: I plan to find people who can teach us :p03:15
nigelb_subtle difference03:15
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james_w`nigelb: I'm can give a session on something, which is how I usually reduce my workload when it is my turn :-)03:25
nigelbjames_w`: \o/03:30
nigelbjames_w`: emmet has agreed too done and I need to poke maco again03:30
nigelbso, one more and we've filled the schedule except for 9th Sep03:31
james_w`you rock03:31
james_w`that's tomorrow03:31
persiaHow badly do you need one today?03:31
persiadepends where you are :)03:31
nigelb(its today for me)03:31
nigelbpersia: If you can do one or find somone to do it, I owe you big time ;)03:32
james_w`oh yeah :-)03:32
persiaIf you've a bundle of clamouring students, I'll spend an hour documenting something, but I'd rather not plan a proper session that would be unattended.03:33
persiaAlternately, I'd be more than glad to spend an hour doing Q&A on "How can I review Debian RC bugs to make sure they are closed in Maverick?"03:33
nigelbtumble weed's session had very poor attendance, so I'm not sure about bundle of students :(03:33
persiaYeah.  Generally students like advance notice, so they can plan the time :)03:34
nigelbSince we have 5 Thursday's this month, we'll just take an off today :p03:36
ajmitchpersia: you actually use the rcbugs page?03:36
nigelbPrecisely why we need that class :p03:37
persiaajmitch, Sadly, only about 6 weeks a year, but during those six weeks, very much so.03:37
persiaBasically, once we hit final freeze, I try to spend time closing as many of them as possible, as we *know* those are critical issues.03:37
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persia(plus it typically smooths the FFe process when one can point at an RC bug in Debian showing why it's important)03:38
ajmitchpersia: right, I've been meaning to get to it asap, I checked that it's looking at maverick now & that there aren't many comments yet03:38
* ajmitch did manage to break it the other day, too03:40
persiabreak it?  How?03:41
ajmitchbecause the quick & dirty code that I had for multiple ubuntu releases wasn't very robust03:43
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robert_ancellStevenK, do you know about bug 251709?07:17
ubottuLaunchpad bug 251709 in rdesktop (Ubuntu) "rdesktop works bad with several keyboard layouts" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/25170907:17
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StevenKrobert_ancell: Only vaguely. What about it?08:02
glatzortkamppeter, morning. Is there a way to map packages to printer drivers in Ubuntu yet? I was just looking at the sessioninstaller bug and was wondering if there have been some changes recently.08:08
glatzortkamppeter, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sessioninstaller/+bug/612140f sessioninstaller08:08
ubottuLaunchpad bug 612140 in sessioninstaller (Ubuntu) "session-installer crashed with AttributeError in InstallPrinterDrivers() when setting up a printer" [High,Fix committed]08:08
robert_ancellStevenK, I think you applied the path initially.  It looks like the patch causes a lot of problems and a lot of people are asking it to be removed.  I'm not sure if it's trading one set of problems for another though08:09
StevenKrobert_ancell: I didn't even write the patch, I just sponsored it. Since then I've not had time to investigate.08:11
tkamppeterglatzor, no, Red Hat's idea to add tags based on each supported printer device ID to Red Hat's RPM is not yet ported to DEB. AFAIK it not even reached RPM upstream yet.08:12
sabdflupdate-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.35-20-generic08:15
sabdfl.: 6: Can't open /scripts/casper-functions08:15
sabdflbut will it blend?08:15
glatzortkamppeter, so it would be best to disable the call to PackageKit in the gnome print manager08:15
tkamppeterglatzor, if the patch fixes session-installer to at least not trigger Apport it is OK, the unneeded PackageKit call does not need significant time. Not patching s-c-p now avoids the risk of regression and keeps the deviation to upstream lower.08:18
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tkamppeterOdyX, hi08:25
tkamppeterHi, can someone upload my fixed Jockey package? I have fixed bug 574396 and bug 604698. The fixes are important to support manufacturer-supplied printer drivers.08:26
ubottuLaunchpad bug 574396 in jockey (Ubuntu Lucid) "Jockey very slow when searching/downloading/installing printer drivers from OpenPrinting" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/57439608:26
ubottuLaunchpad bug 604698 in jockey (Ubuntu) "Automatic printer driver download should support signed packages" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/60469808:26
wzssyqacan somebody help to rebuild ibus-sunpinyin?08:39
persiaIn what way do you need help?08:40
wzssyqapersia: it is FTBFS because of lack of dep, now it can build sucessfully08:41
wzssyqapersia: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ibus-sunpinyin/2.0.2-0ubuntu108:42
persiawzssyqa, Oh, heh.  Then certainly this is the place to ask.08:44
persiaThe way such a thing is usually requested is "Could someone please give-back ibus-sunpinyin on all architectures?"08:44
persiaI've just done so.08:44
wzssyqapersia: i see08:44
wzssyqapersia: i have wait for it several days.....08:45
robert_ancellslangasek, I'm looking at the differences between our version of cdrdao, you have listed "Add armv7l target" but I can08:59
robert_ancell't fine any change for that08:59
slangasekrobert_ancell: that's not me who listed this08:59
slangasekrobert_ancell: it may be that this was a no-change rebuild with the toolchain targeting armv7 by default; but perhaps you want to check with JamieBennett to be sure09:00
robert_ancellslangasek, ok, thanks.  I'm guessing it's nothing, because there doesn't seem to be any delta09:01
persiaMade more confusing because there's no matching prior changelog entry to which that might refer.09:01
robert_ancellah, I found it - it's one of those confusing packages that has a modified source tarball.  I'll convert it into a patch09:03
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amitkseb128: who is the best person to update powertop with a patch?09:47
seb128amitk, not sure, pitti? he will be back monday if that can wait09:48
cjwatsonsabdfl: hm, I thought we'd fixed all the bugs of that form.  can you  fgrep -r '. /scripts/casper-functions' /usr/share/initramfs-tools  to find out where that is?09:48
cjwatsonsabdfl: (it probably will boot if that was the only error, but even so!)09:49
amitkseb128: ok, we can wait till monday, thanks09:52
ograamitk, do we have a wikipage or something about the kernel options that need to be enabled for powertop to work ? i'd like to have it working in the ubuntu kernels09:53
ogra(and i know that iotop and powertop moaned for me in the past about missing kernel features)09:54
amitkogra: there isn't an explicity page I know of, but the patch that we're trying to push to ubuntu should make powertop work on omap HW09:55
ograah, k09:55
amitkand others implementing cpufreq and cpuidle09:55
ograi hope it applies on omap4 too :)09:56
amitkthe other options should already be enabled09:56
amitkogra: it will since they use the same PM arch, but we can't verify since we don't have omap4 HW09:56
amitkyou can try it from amitarora's ppa though09:56
ograwe dont have PM enabled on omap4 yet09:56
sabdflcjwatson: /usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/casper-bottom/46disable_census:. /scripts/casper-functions09:57
ograHW lacks full support yet09:57
sabdfland thanks for the reassurance :)09:57
tkamppeterglatzor, mvo, the patch in bug 612140 did not help. It only reveals another problem.09:57
ubottu'Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: HTTP Error 503: Service Unavailable\nResponse headers:\n---\nconnection: close\ncontent-type: text/html\ndate: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 08:57:43 GMT\nstatus: 503\ntransfer-encoding: chunked\nvary: Accept-Encoding\nvia: 1.1 wildcard.edge.launchpad.net\n---\nResponse body:\n---\n<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">\r\n<html 09:57
cjwatsonsabdfl: what does 'dpkg -S /usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/casper-bottom/46disable_census' say?  I don't have that file here10:00
cjwatsonactually I can probably check the archive for that ...10:01
cjwatsondoesn't seem to be in the archive10:01
cjwatsonsabdfl: if you could put a copy of that file somewhere, I can advise on fixing it in-place10:02
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Laneyit's that canonical-census thing10:03
cjwatsonah, it's in partner10:04
cjwatsonyep, that's the breakage I expected10:04
cjwatsonsabdfl: move the '. /scripts/casper-functions' line down to below the 'esac', and rerun 'update-initramfs -u'10:05
cjwatsonand poke pitti :-)10:05
ricotzseb128, i have an updated cairo 1.10.0-1ubuntu1 package in my staging ppa, perhaps you can have a look later when everything is up again10:24
seb128ricotz, I was going to upload that when launchpad is back10:25
seb128ricotz, thanks for your work, you might want to be on #ubuntu-desktop or tell people before starting changes10:26
seb128ricotz, it seems you often duplicate work we are doing10:26
glatzortkamppeter, ups. I will have a look at it10:27
sabdflthanks colin!10:40
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tkamppeterglatzor, mvo, next session-installer bug reported: bug 633913.11:39
ubottuLaunchpad bug 633913 in sessioninstaller (Ubuntu) "session-installer crashed with ModifyInternalError in _install_printer_drivers()" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/63391311:39
tkamppeterAnyone can upload Jockey for me?11:51
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didrockscjwatson: thanks for the sync11:59
lubossI'm not sure where to ask. I think this is the right place12:28
lubossI'm very curious how ubuntu devs generate Packages index files in repository from deb packages. I know there is dpkg-scanpackages, but this is somehow very trivial. Another less used tool is apt-move but this doesn't seem to do the right job either.12:30
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persialuboss, This isn't a bad place, but it won't necessarily get you the best answer.12:32
persiaThe short answer is that we don't: we rely on the Soyuz component of launchpad to do it for us.12:32
persiaThe longer answer is buried in the Soyuz source.  That said, many of us use a wide variety of techniques for short-term, personal, or other archives.12:33
persiaSomeone in #launchpad might be able to give a more detailed answer.12:33
* ogra_cmpc thinks apt-ftparchive is the current tool of choice for local archives12:34
ogra_cmpc(though i'm personally using dpkg-scanpackage too for that task)12:34
penguin42is there anyway to update an ia32-libs in a ppa?   The 'source' is I think just a big tar of bins which makes it awkward12:35
persiapenguin42, It's the same as one would do anywhere: it's kinda bandwidth intensive.12:37
persiaI haven't looked into it in detail, but it may well be possible to use the new recipe build feature to have launchpad do that automatically daily or something.12:37
penguin42recipe build ?12:38
lubossthank you both persia and ogra_cmpc, I will study those12:38
persiapenguin42, http://blog.launchpad.net/cool-new-stuff/launchpads-build-farm-improvements but you may find more from asking the LP folks12:39
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kenvandinecjwatson, i have another gwibber upload in lucid-proposed that needs accepting, but it is from a re-opened bug which ubuntu-sru is already subscribed13:59
kenvandinecjwatson, can you please look at it?13:59
kenvandinecjwatson, it fixes a pretty significant bug which will likely also reduce the number of requests gwibber makes to facebook, so hopefully getting us back down below our allocation14:00
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dokocjwatson: could you promote https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openjdk-6b18/6b18-1.8.1-2ubuntu1/+build/1950520 ?14:05
dokoor do I have to seed it?14:05
cjwatsonkenvandine: done14:07
kenvandinecjwatson, bug 59526514:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 595265 in gwibber (Ubuntu Lucid) "Can not add Facebook account as add button not displayed after authorisation." [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/59526514:07
kenvandineyou rock!14:07
kenvandineman i hope that helps with the allocation!14:07
kenvandineso many people keep just giving work arounds that really don't help... they just get lucky14:07
tkamppeterAnyone can help me on a package dependencies/upgrade problem (bug 633987)?14:08
ubottuLaunchpad bug 633987 in foomatic-db (Ubuntu) "foomatic-db-compressed-ppds holds back ubuntu-desktop" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/63398714:08
cjwatsondoko: that's fine, component-mismatches lists it (once I fixed it, anyway - the web page is mostly blank right now)14:10
cjwatsondoko: promoted14:10
dokocjwatson: thanks, the arm assembler interpreter wasn't ready for maverick14:10
dokoin b2014:10
cjwatsonI had to peer at madison-lite output for a bit before I worked out what was going on, yes :)14:11
primes2hg. afternoon ara14:15
arahey primes2h14:15
primes2hara: I'm testing Ubuntu One... Do they changed the way to sign in in U1?14:17
primes2hnow it appears a window, no Browser anymore.14:18
arayes, you are right. in that window you get a link to "manage account"?14:18
primes2hI think testcase should be updated.. Could I?14:19
arasure, go ahead14:20
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tkamppeterHi, can someone upload my fixed Jockey package? I have fixed bug 574396 and bug 604698. The fixes are important to support manufacturer-supplied printer drivers.14:21
ubottuLaunchpad bug 574396 in jockey (Ubuntu Lucid) "Jockey very slow when searching/downloading/installing printer drivers from OpenPrinting" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/57439614:21
ubottuLaunchpad bug 604698 in jockey (Ubuntu) "Automatic printer driver download should support signed packages" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/60469814:21
* penguin42 is looking at a bootchart trying to understand a ~30 second boot hang my maverick box has gained14:23
penguin42it looks like the only non-sleeping thing for those 30 seconds is lvm  - which is sleeping on io14:24
sabdfltkamppeter: are there any issues in a recent cups that are causing widespread "printer warning" blockages?14:26
sabdflclan and my printer stopped working recently, i want to know if i should dig into it or just wait for another update :)14:27
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dobeycould i get someone to poke at https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pyinotify/+bug/633405 ? :)15:00
ubottuLaunchpad bug 633405 in pyinotify (Ubuntu) "Raises empty OSError when inotify_init fails" [Undecided,New]15:00
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ricotzseb128, ok, sorry about the duplication15:56
seb128ricotz, no worry15:57
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manjocjwatson, thanks for all the hard work you put in to make 10.10 install on UEFI based system. I was able to install the x64 desktop image on my intel weybridge, intel will show case Ubuntu running on UEFI based system at the IDF next week.16:33
manjosuperm1, ^16:34
tkamppeterOdyX, hi16:37
tkamppetersabdfl, I do not know about such "printer warning" blockages?16:40
tkamppetersabdfl, can you tell me more? Which printer do you have? What exactly happened? What did you try to print? Are there bug reports?16:41
cjwatsonmanjo: fantastic16:42
cjwatsonmanjo: thanks for all the testing thus far16:43
manjocjwatson, ++beer16:43
superm1manjo, ooh great to hear.16:48
mdzmvo, if you're around, I think tkamppeter would appreciate some apt guidance in bug 63398716:49
ubottuLaunchpad bug 633987 in foomatic-db (Ubuntu) "foomatic-db-compressed-ppds holds back ubuntu-desktop" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/63398716:49
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mvomdz: thanks, I have a look, I am debugging a software-center issue currently but I can check it out after that16:54
tkamppetermvo, mdz, I have explained in the bug what I want to have and with which measures I tried to get it. Probably for most people it actually works.16:55
james_wdidrocks: found the cause16:56
didrocksjames_w: really? great!16:56
james_wdidrocks: it's the rename handling again16:57
didrocksjames_w: urgh, any way to bypass it?16:58
james_wdidrocks: I'm trying to figure out a fix. If it's not easy I can do a terrible hack to make it work in this one case16:59
didrocksjames_w: take your time, still fixing other things and testing16:59
sabdfltkamppeter: pebkac17:02
mdztkamppeter, there's nothing too unusual about my system; I perhaps have a few extra packages installed17:02
sabdfli changed the dhcp settings, both of our printers had been setup with fixed ip address configs17:03
mdztkamppeter, the only package on my system which depends on foomatic-db is ubuntu-desktop17:03
mdzso I would expect this problem to affect others as well17:03
ScottKAffected me too.17:03
sabdfltkamppeter: do you know why autodetected printers would use fixed ip addresses rather than avahi ones?17:04
seb128tkamppeter, mvo, that's what aptitude says17:05
seb128The following packages have unmet dependencies:17:05
seb128  foomatic-db-compressed-ppds: Conflicts: foomatic-db but 20100906-0ubuntu1 is installed.17:05
seb128                               Conflicts: foomatic-db-hpijs which is a virtual package.17:05
tkamppetermdz, what should happen is that ubuntu-desktop gets replaced by the new version which depends on foomatic-db-compressed-ppds instead and the conflict would make foomatic-db uninstalled.17:05
mdztkamppeter, yes, I would expect that too17:06
seb128ubuntu-desktop depends on foomatic-db17:06
tkamppetersabdfl, susyem-config-printer usually prefers Avahi-based URIs.17:06
mdzseb128, ahh, well spotted17:07
mdzseb128, oh, no, that's the old version17:07
mdz1.204 depends on foomatic-db, 1.205 depends on foomatic-db-compressed-ppds17:07
seb128let me try to apt-get update17:07
seb128I did upgrade yesterday evening17:07
mdzso the correct solution is to remove foomatic-db, install foomatic-db-compressed-ppds, and upgrade ubuntu-desktop17:07
mdzbut apt decides to hold back ubuntu-desktop instead17:08
tkamppetersabdfl, which printer model do you ghave? Which is the dnssd-based URI and which the fixed-IP-based one?17:08
mvoprobably because of rdpends on foomatic-db17:08
mdzmvo, a test removal found no other reverse deps on my system17:08
mdzthere could be recommends or suggests but no other depends17:08
tkamppetermdz, mvo, do I perhaps need a versioned dependency somewhere?17:09
ScottKI think you need a transitional package.17:09
cjwatsonmy untested suspicion is that your conflicts are overly *strict*17:09
cjwatsonand that weakening to breaks might help17:09
cjwatsonit's a pain to test this kind of thing17:09
cjwatsonhaving to leave foomatic-db in the archive for other purposes probably doesn't help17:09
cjwatsonScottK: tkamppeter said a few days back that foomatic-db was still needed for build-dependencies17:10
cjwatsonI didn't catch the details17:10
seb128$ grep-available -s Package -F Recommends foomatic-db17:10
seb128Package: foo2zjs17:10
seb128Package: foomatic-filters17:10
seb128Package: min12xxw17:10
tkamppeterScottK, with a transitional package I have the problem that I do not want to remove foomatic-db from the distro, it will continue to exist but only be used as build dependency.17:10
sabdfltkamppeter: Xerox Workcenter 6400X17:11
sabdfladding a printer with system-config-printer, i see two detections of the same printer17:11
sabdflone is "AppSocket/JetDirect network printer via DNS-SD"17:12
sabdflthe other is Host: Port 910017:12
tkamppeterseb128, in foomatic-filters (4.0.5-0ubuntu3) I have already removed the Recommends17:13
sabdflinterestingly, they both have an IP address in brackets in the selctbox17:13
sabdflone is correct, the other is a, which I don't recognise17:14
tkamppeterseb128, in min12xxw (0.0.9-3ubuntu3) foomatic-db is only recommended as alternative if foomatic-db-compressed-ppds is not there.17:15
seb128ok so dunno17:15
cjwatson169.254.0.0/16 is avahi17:16
tkamppetersabdfl, which of the two is selected by default?17:16
SpamapSIt might make sense to filter out 169*'s with identical MAC addresses to routable IP's17:17
SpamapSJust means it got broadcasted while the printer was still negotiating an IP with the DHCP server most likely17:17
SpamapSor maybe the printer retains its' 169.254 address to allow communication with devices that don't receive an IP17:18
tkamppeterseb128, foo2zjs (20100728-0ubuntu1) recommends only foomatic-db-engine, not foomatic-db.17:18
cjwatsonsomebody should try -o Debug::pkgProblemResolver=true on a failing machine17:19
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cjwatsonmvo: hmm, it seems confusing to be using quilt in apt-xapian-index, given that it's a native package?17:38
mvocjwatson: feel free to drop it, I don't mind much. I was using it to organize the patches better, but upstream (enrico) is usually quick to apply them anyway17:39
cjwatsonyeah, mostly looking at bug 26733017:41
ubottuLaunchpad bug 267330 in apt-xapian-index (Ubuntu) "update-apt-xapian-index crashed with OSError in getmtime()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/26733017:41
enricomvo: which reminds me to remind you, apt-xapian-index it's in collab-maint :)17:41
cjwatsonI certainly see some obvious places where pitti's fix was incomplete17:41
cjwatsonas it happens I was going to work on that bug in collab-maint ;-)17:41
mvoenrico: oh, thanks. I'm probably too cautious17:43
neerajHi, I was creating patch using quilt and then I had make changes in various Makefile.am and configure.ac file. Now, the problem is that I can make all changes in these using quilt edit, but I am not sure how the autorunconf file will be called while applying patch.17:50
Riddellogra: where's your ARM build failure chart?17:51
ogra_cmpcchart ?17:52
ogra_cmpcoh, the table ... one sec17:52
ogra_cmpcRiddell, http://qa.ubuntuwire.org/ftbfs/17:53
* neeraj got dc again. Not sure whether his query was answered or not.17:53
cjwatsonneeraj: run autoreconf inside 'quilt shell' (you might want to make a separate patch just for that, and remove junk like autom4te.cache before exiting the shell)17:54
Riddellogra_cmpc: thanks.  it's looking good17:55
ogra_cmpcRiddell, well, there is koffice still17:56
neerajcjwatson: ok thanks. Trying that.17:58
manusheelcjwatson: Thanks for the pointers.17:58
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cjwatsonenrico: does http://paste.ubuntu.com/491108/ look OK?  this matches a fix already in plugins/apttags.py18:02
cjwatsonenrico: if you don't mind, I can roll a 0.40 with that18:03
enricocjwatson: it looks good18:04
enricocjwatson: if you're in a hurry you can roll a 0.40. If you're not in a hurry, there's [...]18:05
enricocjwatson: #595916 and #594675 to which I have to dedicate an afternoon18:05
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enricocjwatson: but it won't be this week or the next one, I fear, so feel free to do 0.4018:06
cjwatsonhmm.  I'll have a look at those but may not know the code well enough18:06
james_wdidrocks: I think I've got it18:06
didrockskaoh, great!18:10
didrocksjames_w: great :)18:10
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SpamapSwhen using bzr-buildpackage with 3.0 quilt format packages, is there a way for it to generate the "xxxver changes" patches and commit those on debcommit?18:13
SpamapSthat would be a pretty awesome feature actually. :)18:14
enricocjwatson: #595916 looks like a Xapian python API change (should ping ojwb)18:15
enricocjwatson: #594675 is a tricky one that requires laying out a migration path, which I do have in mind already, let's write it to the BTS18:15
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cjwatsonI think I'm probably best just getting the immediate job done for now, then18:16
enricocjwatson: ok18:16
didrocksjames_w: do you have a patch I can test?18:19
james_wdidrocks: just polishing and committing18:19
didrocksjames_w: great, thanks!18:19
james_wdidrocks: tip of bzr-builddeb should work for you now18:24
didrocksjames_w: grabbing it, should I set some PYTHONPATH and such?18:24
james_wdidrocks: you can use BZR_PLUGINS_AT to run it from an arbitrary directory18:24
didrocksjames_w: trying that18:25
superm1manjo, okay mine got fully installed too, so just need to figure out those nx problems18:25
james_wBZR_PLUGINS_AT=builddeb@/tmp/builddeb bzr mu ...18:25
james_wsomething like that18:25
manjosuperm1, great news, cheers to cjwatson ... yep ack on NX18:25
cjwatsonsuperm1: huh, wasn't that the one that wouldn't boot?18:25
cjwatsonsuperm1: did you use noexec to work around it or something?18:26
superm1cjwatson, i've got both a 6410 and 6510 - noexec works on the 6510, not the 641018:26
cjwatsonsuperm1: right, I tried noexec on mine and it made no difference.  docking station is due to arrive in a couple of days, I think ...18:26
james_wdidrocks: there's a test failure, which isn't a good sign, but it's in a case completely unrelated to yours, so you should be ok for this one branch. I'll work on the failure after lunch.18:27
didrocksjames_w: worked wonderfully well, thanks :)18:27
superm1cjwatson, cool.  if you'd like me to do any other instrumentation with mine in the interim, i'll be glad to18:28
* didrocks now building unity-place-applications18:28
didrocksjames_w: thanks for working on it so quickly!18:28
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neerajfor running autogen.sh function using quilt, will $quilt shell aclocal, $quilt shell autoconf, $quilt shell automake --add-missing and quilt shell rm -rf autom4te.cache is sufficient?18:49
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cjwatsonyou should use 'autoreconf -i' rather than running all those by hand18:50
cjwatsonand I'd recommend running 'quilt shell', running successive commands at the shell prompt it gives you, and then exiting that shell18:51
cjwatsonif there's already an autogen.sh in the package, use that rather than autoreconf18:51
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neerajOk. there is not autogen.sh, should I add quilt shell autoreconf -i \18:56
neeraj> && rm -rf autom4te.cache18:56
cjwatsonrun quilt shell18:56
cjwatsonpress enter18:56
cjwatsonrun the commands18:56
cjwatsontype exit, then press enter18:56
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cjwatson(the above will include autom4te.cache in the patch because && is scoped wrongly)18:57
neerajcjwatson: ok :)19:00
SpamapShmm.. can dh_autoreconf run an autogen.sh ?19:00
SpamapSyes.. apparently it can19:01
SpamapSyou don't have to use quilt for autoreconf'ing it seems19:01
neerajhmm.. sorry for my ignorance  but can you please elaborate? Do i have to make changes in some file or run dh_autoreconf?19:08
juliankneeraj: Use dh_autoreconf as documented in dh-autoreconf(7)19:10
neerajok. in the quilt files, there alocal.m4. I guess I had to remove it?19:13
* neeraj don't want to redo all steps from scratch. Can he run quilt shell and add rm -rf ?19:13
neerajok. may be I don't..19:16
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manjosuperm1, do U have that pastebin of the panic ?19:37
superm1manjo, http://paste.ubuntu.com/486907/19:37
manjosuperm1, thanks, on the intel weybridge with UEFI 2.1 NX support Active, we are able to boot and64 kernel normally19:38
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kenvandinecjwatson, do you have any tips on how to get around this error:19:54
kenvandinedpkg-source failed for libdbusmenu_0.3.13-0ubuntu1.dsc [return: 29]19:54
kenvandinetried on multiple boxes, both lucid and maverick19:55
kenvandinecan't get a source package that can be extracted with dpkg-source19:55
kenvandinetedg can't either19:56
smoserKeybuk, around ?19:57
smoseri'm wondering the difference between 'optional' and 'nobootwait' to mountall.19:58
smoseri can't think of an expected difference between them if the device was not present at boot.19:58
smoseranyone know ?19:59
mneptokis it possible to use btrfs for /boot in Maverick (yet)?20:01
smoseri think is see the difference now. optional will still hold up boot.20:03
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cr3is it more common for a project to have the directory doc/example (singular) or doc/examples (plural)?22:07
mdeslaurcr3: a quick non-scientific study of my /usr/share/doc directory says examples is more popular, 275 vs. 1222:11
cr3mdeslaur: I've also found section 12.6 in the debian policy manual: http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-docs.html22:12
cr3mdeslaur: "Any examples (configurations, source files, whatever), should be installed in a directory /usr/share/doc/package/examples."22:12
mdeslaurcr3: well, there you go...unless you only have one single example...then what? :)22:12
cr3mdeslaur: my project doesn't necessarily need to map to debian packaging policy, I might as well use that as a policy22:12
achiangwhat is the proper way to update a package to a new upstream release when autotools are involved? (specifically, i'm looking at libx11)22:52
achiangi was thinking of: untar upstream.tar.gz, cp -a oldver/debian upstream/  and then see what happens from there...22:52
achiangoh, except after unpacking upstream.tar.gz, it won't have the autotools artifacts22:53
achiangoops, i meant to ask that in #ubuntu-packaging22:54
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zyga-gonelucas, ping23:41
manjowhy can't I name my machine with I install maverick ? or am I missing something ?23:46
manjoI don't see a box where I can enter system name23:47
manjoMaverick seems to set the system name based on my user name ... for example manjo-laptop23:47
penguin42manjo: Older ones used to give you that as a default during the install screen as you filled it in but let you change it - is that no longe rthe case?23:48
manjopenguin42, you man change it after the install ?23:49
penguin42manjo: No, during - on lucid and previous as you typed in the username on a fiield below it it filled in the hostname box and you could edit it23:49
manjopenguin42, I want to set the system name when I enter my user name etc ... like I did in lucid...23:49
theGuestmanjo, bug 62808723:50
ubottuLaunchpad bug 628087 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Maverick ubiquity lacks option to change computer name" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/62808723:50
manjoyep it does not let me in Maverick... unless I am missing something23:50
manjotheGuest, thanks .. did not want to open a dup in that case23:50
manjodesign team is making my head ache :)23:53
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manjoI have 3 machines at home, now eachone will be called manjo-laptop... what a PITA23:55

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