[03:08] FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (fhudfdhfd appears to be abusive - 5) === Amaranth_ is now known as Amaranth [07:32] i think cryptopsy is a problem user in the #ubuntu channel. [07:33] seidos: I'm reading backlog now [07:33] Flannel, acknowledged [08:14] Good day all , why my user is banned without any notice a mistake maybe ? [08:22] hi all i have a favour to ask. Can i get an unban from the channel. someting went rong. [08:23] just want to know if its possable [08:27] not at this time [08:27] alabd: I'll be with your shortly [08:27] its-me-again: apologies, that was meant for you "not at this time" [08:28] alabd: are you awake now as its-me-again does not appear to be at his keyboard [08:30] i am here lol [08:30] y am i blocked [08:30] its-me-again: you know why you are blocked [08:30] it's been explained to you multiple times [08:31] yes i know y the mixup happened. [08:31] just want to know how long i would have to wait that is all [08:31] my ubuntu os is neding help i cant find myself [08:31] it wasn't a mix up [08:32] this is why you are not unbanned as you still think it's acceptible or amix up [08:32] i do not think its accectable to break the rules. [08:32] then why did you persist after multiple warnings including kicks and messages [08:33] but if i could not use mint to ask for help with my other computer to help get it going then i dont understand howelse i could get help [08:33] . i can see y you thought i was breaking the rules so i accecpt that i got things mixed up myself not you guys [08:33] its-me-again: it's not about what computer you are on, it's about what operating system you are asking for help for [08:33] you could be on a windows computer asking for help with ubuntu, that's fine [08:33] its-me-again: there is no "why you thought" - you WHERE breaking the rules, after being told multiple times not to [08:34] and this is the reason the ban is still in place [08:34] there was no mixup [08:34] well i think i did gget things mixed up [08:34] i tend to do that. [08:34] no you didn't [08:34] i hae appoligesed [08:35] and i do say i am sorry [08:35] you where sat in a mint channel saying "I'm using mint, I'm having this problem" [08:35] then you joined the ubuntu channel and removed the word "mint" and just pasted the exact phrase into the channel [08:35] so you knew exactly what you where doing [08:35] so oneday when i get the unban i knowthati will be more careful [08:35] this is after you have been told on multiple occasions not to ask for mint help in #ubuntu [08:35] untill that time i just wont use ubuntu much [08:35] its-me-again: there is no "careful" the fact that you are claiming it was a mixup/accident is why you are still banned [08:35] ok point. [08:36] i thought i was banned for the last time i used it to get help with ubuntu [08:36] nowi see [08:36] that makes no sense [08:36] I'll explain it one more time, then you need to go and think about it [08:36] 1.) you where caught asking for mint help in #ubuntu - you where told not to [08:36] 2.) you where caught asking for mint help again in #ubuntu - you where kicked and told not to [08:37] 3.) you where caught in the mint channel saying I'm using mint and having $X problem [08:37] i have thought about it alot [08:37] 4.) you then removed the words "I'm using mint" and pasted the same problem in #ubuntu [08:37] you where banned [08:37] so a.) you are breaking the rules [08:37] b.) you are telling me lies about it being a mix up - as you removed the words "I'm using mint" in the #ubuntu channel [08:37] c.) you've done this a few times now and been given chances [08:38] if i dont get an unban soon i will just uninstall ubuntu from my other computer adn install another os. a shame after all the work i did getting ig set up [08:38] that is why you are still banned [08:38] its-me-again: you're welcome to remove ubuntu and use another OS [08:38] its-me-again: please go and take some time to think about what you say and how you present yourself next time you ask for this ban to be removed [08:38] honesty is the key [08:39] ok i see it now its never been explained to me likethat. [08:39] yes it has [08:39] i was mixed up untill just now. [08:39] and to be honest, it shouldn't need to be, as you know what you did [08:39] its-me-again: I think we are done here, please leave the channel and come back in a few days and think about how you present your case to have the ban removed [08:40] how many times do i need to say i am sorry [08:40] maby thats the thing [08:40] i get mixed up [08:40] :( [08:40] I think we are done here - it's been explained to you [08:41] alabd: are you active now [08:41] ok, not then === Gary_ is now known as Gary [10:17] is the metabot stil up in #kubuntu? I don't see any questions fed in from that channel [10:20] Do many folks use that? I hung around in what I thought was the right place for a while, but saw few questions and no answers beyond my own. [10:26] persia: I do, I might just not be there when you are :) [10:49] persia: hanging in the #ubuntu-metabot channel enables you to see which questions in the channels go un answered, then you can answer them in the channel. [10:53] jussi, hei! [10:55] rww called the ops in #ubuntu-offtopic (Emanon) [10:56] gnomefreak: was that reall y necessary? [10:57] jussi, can i have access to @bt [10:57] jussi: i am fixing it [10:57] knome: no :P [10:57] knome: Ill get it for you at some point, but not right now [10:58] jussi, okay. but why you have to be so rude, daddy? ;'( [10:58] its not working [10:59] anyone know why /unban c-67-183-42-162.hsd1.wa.comcast.net isnt working [10:59] gnomefreak: because that's not hostmask, but only part of it? [11:00] Emanon ~Emanon@c-67-183-42-162.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [11:00] i humbly accept your invitation [11:01] that is the hostmask. script isnt working ether [11:01] Emanon: working on it. [11:01] gnomefreak: that's Emanons hostmask, but the ban is... [11:02] gnomefreak: which channel is this? [11:02] ops [11:02] Tm_T: the ban istm-ot [11:02] damnit -ot Tm_T [11:02] dude your like one character off from being ninja turtles [11:02] it should work [11:02] gnomefreak: *!*@c-67-183-42-162.hsd1.wa.comcast.net was the banmask [11:03] yes i know [11:03] brb let me see something [11:04] Emanon: try joining [11:04] still banned [11:04] Tm_T: that didnt work either [11:04] join it and im sorry [11:05] use the wrong script and banned instead of kicked huh [11:05] dont worry bout it its funny [11:05] Emanon: yep [11:05] gnomefreak: the ban is removed [11:05] (: [11:06] Tm_T: i know :) [11:06] gnomefreak: what doesn't work? [11:06] i forgot the *!* [11:07] now baack to what i was doing [11:08] ah (: [11:08] Emanon: all sorted? [11:08] oh yea forgot to part ops channel [11:08] (: [11:17] Just a reminder peoples, that quiets can be very effective. Please remember to use them. [11:31] jussi, Oh, I'm supposed to go answer in the original channel? I thought that the idea was helping the helpers: meta-support. I can never keep up with #ubuntu: it scrolls too fast. [11:31] persia: yeah, its about missed questions and catching them. [11:32] Ah. That makes sense. I just misunderstood. [11:32] persia: :) glad you got it now :) [13:10] jussi: back to my previous question: could somebody reactivate the meta-bot for #kubuntu, please? [13:16] red2kic called the ops in #ubuntu (mr-rich #fix-your-connection) [13:17] sorted [13:24] ikonia: ahem. [13:31] ? [13:31] +m to #ubuntu [13:31] 08:16:24 >>>> mode/#ubuntu [+mr-rcfnt] by ikonia [13:32] whoaaaa [13:32] I didn't see that [13:32] I know. [13:32] sorry about that [13:32] Its okay, just wanted to let you know that you did it. [13:32] clearly, I didn't see it at all [13:32] thank you for resolving [13:33] I only noticed because someone in -ot said they couldn't talk in #ubuntu [13:33] good eyes [13:33] must have missed it in channel scroll [13:34] thank you for resolving though [14:04] FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join (1363 users, 8 overflows, 1371 limit)) [14:52] < lep-work> jpds, that's just silly .... you should always set a root password on a server [14:52] Uh-huh. [14:53] riiight [14:54] It's critical to enable remote exploits. Whatever would we do without full support for botnets? [15:37] persia: We would have nothing to fill the oceanic fibre cables with. [15:49] That would be sad. traffic drives capacity. Capacity makes me happy. [15:51] persia: http://weathermap.es.net/ [15:51] Now that is impressive. [15:54] Too bad it's geographically limited, although I'm happy to see more full-function bunkers than ARPA deployed. [16:48] FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (E1we11 appears to be abusive - 6) [16:48] Lorez: Someone on the internets hates you, sorry. [16:49] Well, if they use ! ops then it shows up in red here, much easier for me to catch it. [16:51] Yep. [18:01] Good day all , why my user is banned without any notice a mistake maybe ? [18:05] Not necessarily. [18:05] ikonia: ↑ [18:12] Would an OP check reason it is mistake probably [18:12] It isn't as far as I can see. [18:21] ... [18:40] FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join (1392 users, 12 overflows, 1404 limit)) [18:40] FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join (1391 users, 14 overflows, 1405 limit)) [18:40] FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join (1394 users, 12 overflows, 1406 limit)) [18:42] Nice. [18:56] hi I need console parameters for file linux-install.sh [18:57] madrid_: sorry - you are currently banned from #ubuntu [18:57] for install [18:57] ikonia you are a dictator [18:57] o [18:57] ok [18:57] not more cesure please [18:58] ikonia: Please dictate the following text: "The rain in Spain, stays mainly on the plain". [18:58] I need console parameters for install linux-install.sh [18:59] ikonia you arent very sensible [19:00] madrid_: aka gos Did we not discuss this just the other day. This is not a support channel. Do you want to discuss why you are banned in #ubuntu? [19:01] ikonia is a troll [19:01] madrid_: Please part this channel now. [19:01] madrid_: Takes one to know one. [19:01] jpds: need some rubber & glue? [19:02] !ops | madrid_ [19:02] madrid_: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Tm_T, tritium, elky, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, imbrandon, PriceChild, Madpilot, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, tsimpson, gnomefreak, jussi, topyli, or nhandler! [19:02] IdleOne called the ops in #ubuntu-ops (madrid_) [19:02] User needs to be removed [19:02] he has been told on several occasions this is not a support channel [19:03] Might be a good idea to turn that forward into a ban [19:03] does not want to resolve his ban in #ubuntu and now has become insulting and calling ikonia a troll [19:06] I left the forward in place to catch him trying his other nics [19:06] ikonia: he doesn't come in here with other nicks [19:07] only with god and madrid [19:07] gos* [19:08] anyway I removed the forward and made it a simple ban but if you want me to set it back. [19:09] no problem [19:32] ikonia, Hi did you check ? [19:33] alabd: hi [19:33] apologies for missing you earlier [19:33] noop [19:34] alabd: your ban is not a mistake, it is due to your constant use of #ubuntu for random questions [19:36] can nt get what you mean , would you explain more [19:36] sure [19:36] alabd: do you know what the topic of the #ubuntu channel is [19:36] i was banned from #ubuntu due to my bnc's server problem (join/quit spam) while i was away. CAN THE OPS PLZ UNBAN ME? [19:36] alabd: please wait one moment [19:36] FusionX: I'll look now [19:36] FusionX: all set [19:37] jrib: thanks [19:37] thanks alot!! [19:37] ikonia: pong (got it) [19:38] alabd: we can continue [19:38] alabd: do you know and understand what the topic of the #ubuntu channel is ? [19:39] ikonia, would answer without asking ? what is reason oof my user ban ? it is strange for me [19:39] alabd: do you know/understand what the topic for the #ubuntu channel is ? [19:40] you have said > alabd: your ban is not a mistake, it is due to your constant use of #ubuntu for random questions [19:40] would you show me my constant use of #ubuntu for random questions [19:40] ? [19:40] alabd: if you respond to the question I'm asking, we'll walk through it together [19:41] yes but you know am here to ask another question not answering your questions [19:41] alabd: ok, so you know the topic of the channel is for ubuntu support discussion only, correct ? [19:41] that is your understanding also [19:42] so ? [19:42] !idle > FusionX [19:42] FusionX, please see my private message [19:42] alabd: how is " Good day all , is using mms and mmsh against copyright law ? [19:43] anything to do with ubuntu ? [19:46] you know we have some repositories in ubuntu for property /copyrighted ... ackages and i-humble wanted know using mms is against any copyright law in ubuntu or nor [19:46] maybe my question was not clear [19:46] should you ban me without any notice ? [19:46] alabd: if your using ubuntu or not has nothing to do with copyright law, [19:46] alabd: you have been banned in the past for the exact same behavior. [19:46] alabd: you have been given many warnings about the questions (and banned before) you ask in #ubuntu, you where told when you where unbanned you needed to stop [19:46] alabd: you don;t get warnings any more. [19:47] mneptok, first hi , you me the ban for some month before ? it seems you are making mistake [19:47] while this question is a minor issue, it's the fact that you can't seem to grasp that the channel is for Ubuntu related discussion, not copyright law, or citations, or anything like that [19:47] ikonia, should not you notice me before ban ? [19:47] alabd: you don't get warnings any more. [19:48] despite my question was not unrelated to ubuntu channel [19:48] alabd: it was [19:48] mneptok, doon't tell lie it is not true work to help another op leave us alone [19:48] ikonia, 2 question [19:48] copyright law is not set by ubuntu, nor does it have anything to do with ubuntu [19:48] alabd: yes, it is. you have a legal question that you should ask a lawyer. you do not have a support question related to the proper functioning of Ubuntu software. [19:49] 1 - should not you notice me before ban ? (yes have noticed me soome month ago for another thing , it is not related to this issue ) 2 - why just you always ban me , is it normal thing ? [19:50] 12:47 <+mneptok> alabd: you don't get warnings any more. [19:50] alabd: 1.) no - you've had many warnings 2.) any users who are an issue get banned, not just you [19:50] why one time another op don't ban me in ubuntu channel if my behavior is bad [19:50] do i need to say that for a FOURTH time? [19:50] mneptok, would you let me talk ikonia ? [19:50] alabd: i am. [19:51] thanks [19:51] alabd: but you are being your usual combative, unrepetent, argumentative and unruly self. [19:52] alabd: and thus i am going to try to help you waste as little of ikonia's time as possible. [19:52] alabd: do you understand that legal questions are not on-topic for #ubuntu? answer "yes" or "no" or i will ban you from this channel. [19:53] I'm actually going to leave now as I need to leave where I am, however I hope that reasoning has been explained now [19:54] ikonia, if i-humble remember true you are the only person that have banned me in #ubuntu 3 times in last year , times 1 and 2 are for months ago , why don't notice me that my question is offtopic yesterday ? because of some months ago warnings ? [19:54] if i-humble remember true you are the only person that have banned me in #ubuntu [19:54] this is good point [19:54] alabd: I wasn't in the channel at the time [19:55] alabd: if I had been awake in the channel at the time I would have delt with it then [19:55] who banned me ? [19:55] I did [19:55] alabd: who banned you is not important. [19:55] alabd: do you understand that legal questions are not on-topic for #ubuntu? answer "yes" or "no" or i will ban you from this channel. [19:55] whoa, easy there [19:55] there is a language issue, so lets cut a little slack [19:56] mneptok, that is not problem , maybe you are right and it is not on-topic question for #ubuntu my prblem is anoother thing [19:56] without any notice [19:56] alabd: operators are not required to give you notice [19:56] alabd: your problem is that you refuse to abide by channel policy, and then blame eberyone but yourself when there are consequences. [19:57] *everyone [19:58] :) mneptok , would you tell what is #ubuntu channel for ? support? hwta kind support ? [19:58] what* [19:59] alabd: it is for ubuntu operating system and application support [19:59] alabd: #ubuntu is for support questions relating to the proper use and functionality of software contained in Ubuntu. [19:59] alabd: legal question have nothing to do with the proper use and functionality of the software. just like "if i deliberately hit someone with my car will i get in trouble?" has no bearing on whether the car works or not. [20:01] what does proper use mean then ? [20:01] config files. application settings. dependencies. etc. [20:02] alabd: how to use it, and technical issues around it's use [20:02] this is your translation but how could i-humble get this from proper use ? i-humble could get it contains legal use also ... [20:03] alabd: then you are just trying to be difficult [20:03] ubuntu does not make the law for your area/country, not does it support it [20:04] alabd: i give up. you seemingly like being deliberately dense. good luck. [20:04] so with that, I'm going to leave you to ponder if you really need access to #ubuntu to ask such things [20:04] alabd: and, for the record, you are anything but "humble." you're about the most self-righteous user i have encountered. [20:05] alabd: you are correct in saying that you could interpret our proper use policy differently but your interpretation is incorrect and ikonia and mneptok are trying to explain what the proper use of #ubuntu is. [20:05] IdleOne: the topic's been explained to him many times (hence the bans/kicks/wannings) [20:05] IdleOne, yes you are right [20:06] alabd: So we are in agreement. You will not ask off topic questions in #ubuntu any more [20:06] if you do, you will be banned without warning. [20:06] IdleOne, sure [20:07] if i-humble know some issue is offtoppic soo i-humble will not ask [20:07] good, now I will leave it up to ikonia as to when he will remove the ban. [20:07] IdleOne: alabd I won't be removing the ban any time soon as I'm tired of having this same discussion (and subsiquent argument) [20:08] thanks i-humble say it was better before banning ikonia come and say alabd > you could interpret our proper use policy differently but your interpretation is incorrect [20:08] ikonia: agreed [20:08] alabd: you KNOW the policy - you've had it explained to you many times [20:08] ikonia, don't tell lie [20:08] it is not useful [20:08] ok, I'll leave it there then if you think I'm telling you lies [20:08] we have not talked about this issue anytime [20:08] night all [20:09] IdleOne, i-humble say it was better before banning ikonia come and say alabd > you could interpret our proper use policy differently but your interpretation is incorrect [20:09] Repeative sort of fellow [20:09] but i-humble don't know why should he be the only person that ban me in ubuntu channel [20:09] alabd: This discussion is over now. ikonia has chosen to leave the ban in place. Perhaps you can return in 5 days and the ops team can revisit this issue. [20:09] and make me trouble in other channels [20:09] Please part the channel now. [20:11] alabd: please abide by this channel's no-idle policy and /part [20:17] It is difficult enough to deal with these types of users without having to dodge jabbing/stabbing comments from other ops. [20:17] alabd: Has it been 5 days? [20:17] mneptok, was talking to IdleOne [20:17] IdleOne, but i-humble don't know why should he be the only person that ban me in ubuntu channel and make me trouble in other channels? [20:18] right - enough [20:18] alabd: We are not discussing this any longer. [20:18] Please leave this channel now. [20:18] ok [20:18] alabd: you are banned in 10 other channels, that is nothing to do with me as I am not an operator in those channels, that is your OWN doing [20:18] ikonia, another lie [20:19] alabd: if you persist in calling me a liar I will progress this futher [20:19] mneptok: can you set a 5 day ban? [20:19] it is not strange that some ops listen to another op instead of me [20:19] anyway god is here and can see [20:19] alabd: if your claims have anything to do with your ban in #ubuntu, present them, if not drop them, if you wish to progress those claims elsewhere please do so [20:20] If it is not an Ubuntu channel then we have nothing to do with it. [20:20] Pici, it is [20:20] Which one? [20:20] i-humbel have a serious question [20:21] why should i-humble be banned only by ikonia methink in ubuntu channel [20:21] and he make me trouble also in another channels ? [20:21] should noot some check his behavior ? [20:21] the last ban pici [20:22] there is a statement "proper use" in topic of [20:22] ubuntu channel [20:22] it is not clear what proper use is [20:23] alabd: You have already spoken to our operators about the ban placed two days ago in #ubuntu. Is there something *else* that you are asking about now? [20:24] i-humble came to channel about maybe long time maybe some months and asked a question that did not think it is off-topic (because of maybe it is not clearly off topic) and again he banned me [20:24] alabd: you came to the channel 6 hours before I banned you [20:24] not "some months" [20:24] yes that day after some months [20:25] no [20:25] or that week for some month [20:25] legal use of an application can not be discussed in #ubuntu because we are not international copyright lawyers and it does not have any technical merit. [20:25] you asked a question, left the channel, shortly after (the same day) I placed a ban forward here [20:26] IdleOne, yes you are right but you know ubuntu is a GNU/linux distro [20:26] and GNU/Linux is a free distro [20:26] alabd: what are you hoping to accomplish right now in this channel at the moment? [20:26] i-humble should be sure all it's part are free [20:26] 'round and 'round we go [20:26] alabd: You are getting to be an annoyance now. You have been answered and the decision about your ban has been made. it is final. [20:26] !logs [20:26] Official channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ - For LoCo channels, http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/ [20:27] see i-humble can not talk with 5 person the same time [20:27] [08:16] Good day all , is using mms and mmsh against copyright law ? [20:27] alabd: then being banned from a channel with 1300+ users will not be an issue for you. [20:27] 8:16 08/09/2010 [20:27] ban placed 9:00 08/09/2010 [20:27] not even an hour after [20:28] yes so ? [20:28] you just said it was "months" [20:28] no i-humble mean , was not in channel for month [20:28] ikonia: months go by. he /joins. asks offtopic question. gets banned. [20:29] yes [20:29] alabd: your previous behavior means you do not get second and third chances. [20:29] alabd: it does not matter how many months go by. [20:29] I suggest we let Pici see this through as with the language barrier it can be confusing [20:29] yes it does not really [20:30] exactly. glad that's clear. your ban will not be removed at this time. please /part the channel. [20:30] whoaaa [20:30] ikonia: I'm actually in the middle of something here. :/ [20:30] at work that is. [20:30] Pici: no problem [20:30] apologies for naming you [20:31] I'm out [20:31] alabd: please leave this channel before i am forced to ban you from here, as well. [20:31] I would like for alabd to return in 5 days so that he has time to think about his behavior in #ubuntu in the past and also his behavior in here today. [20:31] my problem is that such issue that is off-topic and really is not clear , someone came and ask it after some months not logged in channel , maybe it was better to not ban him by ikonia the person that he only bans me in ubuntu [20:32] anyway i-humble told this to ops that are honest enough to judge and am g=leaving channel [20:33] alabd: i will not ask you to /part again. you will be leaving this channel in the next 2 minutes. whether you do that ourself or it is done for you is your own decision. [20:33] *yourself [20:33] Pici, thanks [20:35] *deep breath* [22:17] ilovefairuz called the ops in #ubuntu () [23:08] In #ubuntu-offtopic, rww said: !no, ubottu is Hi! I'm $chan's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi | Usage info: http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins | Bot channels and general info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots [23:08] In #ubuntu-offtopic, rww said: !no, ubotu is Hi! I'm $chan's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi | Usage info: http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins | Bot channels and general info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots