[11:52] <ronoc> Cimi, -> http://imagebin.org/113492
[11:53] <Cimi> mm strange
[11:53] <Cimi> should be exactly the opposite
[11:54] <Cimi> does it work for ambiance?
[11:55] <Cimi> ronoc: ^^
[11:56] <ronoc> Cimi, I reversed the colours so the darker shades was towards the bottom
[11:57] <ronoc> Cimi, something I meant to do before UI freeze but just did not get it done in time
[11:57] <ronoc> Cimi, so the button looks like a button and not a dent in the menu :)
[11:57] <ronoc> your gtkcolours work seem to work fine for me
[11:57] <Cimi> but then we could have even a better design
[11:58] <Cimi> we need better edges, to increasing the 3d feeling
[11:58] <ronoc> Cimi, yes we could but I think the design of this will need to be properly revisited at some point
[11:58] <ronoc> Cimi, for now its fine for me, but feel free to enhance if you like :)
[11:58] <ronoc> wait until I have merged though
[11:58] <ronoc> if you want
[11:59] <Cimi> ok
[12:32] <sense> good afternoon
[13:48] <Cimi> kenvandine: I wrote the blog post, now we need updated packages :)
[13:49] <kenvandine> :)
[13:50] <Cimi> http://goo.gl/M3kj :P
[13:56] <kenvandine> Cimi, cool, lets hope the freeze exceptions get approved :)
[16:05] <Cimi> chaotic: let's vote! :)))))
[16:05] <Cimi> chaotic: I vote for "where_are_you_otto.png" :P
[16:09] <fagan> It would have been nice to get a couple of screen shots on that post on design.canonical.com
[16:13] <Cimi> chaotic: I vote for option 01a.png WITHOUT ANY DOUBT
[16:18] <chaotic> Cimi: yeah, it's pretty cool isn't it
[16:19] <chaotic> Cimi: I can't guarantee we can change direction like that but those two are my favourites too
[16:20] <Cimi> I like 01a more than 01b
[16:21] <Cimi> because the stripes in 01b are too thin
[16:22] <Cimi> chaotic: ^^
[16:22] <Cimi> chaotic: expecially amazing with radiance is the top right corner
[16:23] <Cimi> much better with radiance than ambiance is the contrast panel/purple
[16:24] <chaotic> Cimi: thanks, I might try one with less opaque stripes - they look quite nice
[16:24] <Cimi> chaotic: why not making them fatter?
[16:24] <Cimi> *widet
[16:24] <Cimi> *wider, whatever
[16:25] <chaotic> Cimi: yeah, but I was trying to increase the level of detail a bit
[16:26] <Cimi> ok I can understand
[16:26] <Cimi> chaotic: you can remove 01b :P
[16:26] <Cimi> still undecided between 01a and 10c
[16:27] <chaotic> Cimi: :)
[16:27] <chaotic> Cimi: I am thinking that they can still be generative to a degree as well
[16:32] <Cimi> chaotic: you removed all of them :)
[16:32] <Cimi> you should have removed option2 and 3 not 01 :P
[16:38] <chaotic> Cimi: oops
[16:38] <chaotic> Cimi: meant to copy them...
[16:41] <chaotic> Cimi: there was a dot I've moved on the new ones
[16:41] <chaotic> Cimi: better now
[16:44] <Cimi> chaotic: I know you are searching detail but I prefer 01a :)
[16:45] <chaotic> Cimi: it's 1a or 1c for me - I might put one up with less detail
[16:48] <Cimi> I vote for 01a. I guess I don't like the top-right intersection between the white stripes and the rainbow. maybe it's just tastes, yes, but it ruins the cool gradient
[16:51] <Cimi> chaotic: ^^
[16:53] <chaotic> Cimi: 1d is very subtle now
[16:53] <Cimi> yes
[16:54] <Cimi> but I still prefer 01a :) - feel free to kill me
[16:54] <chaotic> Cimi:  it adds texture though ;)
[16:58] <Cimi> chaotic: see in dropbox "i dont like that .png"
[16:59] <chaotic> Cimi: I am doing one that removes that, let's see
[17:06] <Cimi> better
[17:06] <Cimi> not sure between this and 01a but definitely better IMHO
[17:08] <Cimi> chaotic: if you compare 01a and 01e you might notice 01e is brighter due to the bright stripes
[17:08] <Cimi> chaotic: we are losing the details of the rainbow/colors
[17:08] <Cimi> chaotic: for that reason if you add stripes, you should reduce the brightness of the central glow
[17:09] <Cimi> chaotic: did you get what I mean?
[17:18] <chaotic> Cimi: yes
[17:18] <chaotic> Cimi: I've dulled it slightly but I think I am happy with the results now
[17:19] <Cimi> chaotic: 01f coming soon? :)
[17:23] <Cimi> chaotic: still prefer the brightness of 01a
[17:23] <Cimi> anyway 01f seems to have lost the detail 01e/d had
[17:24] <Cimi> are you sure you reduced the level glow and not the stripes? you should reduce the white glow not the stripes, otherwise you lose the detail :)
[17:29] <chaotic> Cimi: it's not that simple - done as a color dodge layer it doesn't react quite that easily
[17:30] <Cimi> chaotic: not sure I understood, but I guess that below the stripes there's a glow, itsn't it?
[17:30] <Cimi> I mean reducing that glow
[17:31] <chaotic> Cimi: it's a combination of a greyscale layer and layer mask applied as a color dodge - so it's more difficult to control
[17:33] <chaotic> works very well with both themes though huh - will make a good CD too
[17:33] <Cimi> yep
[17:34] <Cimi> my final thought is: having *exactly the same level of brightness of 01a in the center* while keeping a hint of the stripes at bottom left
[17:36] <chaotic> Cimi: I'm done - need to send the mail to Mark a and g are going
[17:38] <Cimi> chaotic: cc me :)
[17:40] <Cimi> chaotic: you're not going to update g then? (I can't judge the difficulty you may have found)
[17:41] <chaotic> the stripes are an additive so it's very hard to apply them without adding brightness also
[17:41] <Cimi> between a and g I would still prefer a because the brightness of in the middle covers the colors in the center, reducing the nice feeling given by the rainbow/gradient
[17:43] <Cimi> chaotic: I can understand they are an additive, I thought you could reduce the general brightness by reducing the brightness of other elements, but I'm not a photoshop guru like you so I'm totally in your hands.
[17:43] <Cimi> chaotic: just keep in mind my consideration about detail of the color bands
[17:44] <chaotic> ;)
[17:44] <Cimi> chaotic: because for adding some details in the bottom right, we are losing details somewhere
[17:44] <Cimi> and that's a regression more than a plus IMHHHHHHO
[17:50] <chaotic> hahaha
[17:50] <chaotic> Cimi: live with them over the weekend, it's going in on monday
[17:51] <Cimi> ook
[17:58] <Cimi> chaotic: if you're done for today, catch up on monday :)
[17:58] <chaotic> Cimi: I most definitely am - have a good weekend
[17:58] <Cimi> (and now I have your mobile phone, so I can sms you if you disappear for too long! :P :P)
[17:59] <Cimi> have a good weekend too otto ;)
[17:59] <Cimi> chaotic: bye!