[01:05] Riddell, ping [01:07] Riddell, the debdiff for the qtwebkit package http://paste.ubuntu.com/491308/ [01:07] Riddell, it just needed to update the package [01:08] Riddell, the qml plugin patch was cherry-picked already [01:08] Riddell, https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40050 [01:08] bugs.webkit.org bug 40050 in WebKit Qt "[Qt] Upstream the WebKit QML integration plugin" [Normal,Closed: fixed] [01:09] Riddell, sorry for the noise [04:41] nixternal or apachelogger: I've added some information and theorizing to Bug #627815. Perhaps you could have a look at it and see if you can figure it out. I know you both have the ~exact same netbook I'm seeing the problem on. [04:41] Launchpad bug 627815 in kde4libs (Ubuntu Maverick) "unable to save user-places.xbel" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/627815 [09:06] hey Riddell === hunger_ is now known as hunger [09:11] hi rbelem [09:12] ooh, a patch for qtwebkit, good good [09:16] http://linux.slashdot.org/story/10/09/09/1925214/Broadcom-Releases-Source-Code-For-Drivers awooga [09:24] is the missing stylesheet in qt assistant docs an upstream problem? [09:24] Riddell, thats great news [09:25] Riddell, i'm filling a bug right now [09:29] Riddell, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtwebkit-source/+bug/634755 [09:29] Launchpad bug 634755 in qtwebkit-source (Ubuntu) "QtWebKit package is not installing the QML plugin" [Undecided,New] [09:37] are upload currently disabled in launchpad? [09:40] don't think so [09:41] hum... [09:41] maybe because i'm on my mobile phone === Mamarok_ is now known as Mamarok [09:44] Riddell, did you take a look on the debdiff? [09:46] Riddell, I'm going to sleep again :D [09:47] it's 04:46 AM here [09:48] bye [09:48] rbelem: yes looks good [09:48] I'll upload [09:48] thanks rbelem [09:48] thanks Riddell :D [09:48] i will sleep better now [09:49] * rbelem leaving... [09:56] persia: third time unlucky for koffice :( [09:57] Riddell, Heh. I've been working that on-and-off the past couple days. The code contains so many implicit double casts that it's painful. [10:03] persia: I take it you have something to compile it on? probably better than iterating through doing it in a PPA [10:04] Riddell, I have some no-longer-supported hardware, and a very slow beagle (256MB), so nothing so fast as the PPA builders, but yeah, likely better. [10:09] Riddell: is there a bug report for qtwebkit flash issue? or should I file one? [10:22] isn't there any way to set default signing key for debuild [10:22] right now I have to do "debuild -S -k" [10:27] apparle, set DEB_EMAIL in your environment. This will default to the key with an identity that matches that address. [10:28] persia: is it DEBEMAIL or DEB_EMAIL? [10:29] persia: because I have DEBEMAIL set but not DEB_EMAIL [10:29] Sorry: DEBEMAIL. Does that match something in your changelog. [10:33] apparle: yes it takes the details from the top entry in debian/changelog [10:33] Riddell: its not taking. :( [10:33] apachelogger: code submission day, I take it you've done that? [10:34] apparle: well don't worry about it, it's only an issue if you need to upload it to the archive [10:34] it's a good thing not to sign it otherwise [10:34] Riddell: means? [10:34] what means what? [10:35] Riddell: "it's a good thing not to sign it otherwise"? should I do it unsigned? [10:35] yes, you're just test building it, you're not uploading it to the archive (you don't have permission) [10:36] Riddell: okay and I am getting warnings while building the source "dpkg-source: warning: ignoring deletion of file " should I ignore them [10:37] I think that's just down to qt's messy build system [10:37] as long as it builds that's fine [10:41] hello androidlogger [10:42] ScottK: I think timing is no bad guess [10:42] ahoy Riddell [10:43] ScottK: the best way to solve this would probably be to enhance startkde to create the xdg dirs... it seems a bit useless to do anywhere else... [10:46] androidlogger: solve what? [10:46] androidlogger: you got a new phone? [10:55] Riddell: scott's netbook places file startup error thing [10:55] jussi: no, why? [10:56] androidlogger: I'd have thought the current /etc/X11/Xsession.d/60xdg-user-dirs-update gets run before startkde [11:00] good point, but from an upstream pov that is not necessarily the case [11:00] woah that client is serious crap [11:03] androidlogger: code submission deadline today, I presume you've done that? [11:08] yep [11:15] oh I think I envisioned a way to decrease startup time of kde.... [11:20] ... on mobile [11:23] or maybe desktop too... === kubotu_ is now known as kubotu === kubotu_ is now known as kubotu [11:40] androidlogger: ssup [11:44] installtime decascading muhahhaha! [11:48] androidlogger: i looked at KIconLoader ( wrt to my plasma patch ), but i just found a enum which can replace const QList iconSizes = QList() << 16 << 22 << 32 << 48 << 64 << 128 : but idk how to convert this enum to a QList :( [11:49] http://api.kde.org/4.x-api/kdelibs-apidocs/kdeui/html/classKIconLoader.html#a731529b94f19e837155d2deb1e99b680 << the enum [11:49] I know the enum... [11:50] question is do you need the list at all [11:50] ohhhh! [11:51] i can just read m_customSize [11:51] s/m_customSize/m_customIconSize [11:51] wait... lemme see.. [12:02] Just use the enum members themselves [12:02] there's no guarantee that m_customIconSize will ever be used [12:05] androidlogger: btw line 439 of http://reviewboard.kde.org/r/5049/diff/#index_header isnt needed at all because line 420 already sets url [12:06] so already remove [12:08] shadeslayer: are you doing kdepim-* ? [12:09] lex79: yes... [12:09] both? [12:09] well.. ive just started on runtime [12:09] so if you want to do kdepim, be my guest :) [12:10] shadeslayer: ok, I do kdepim [12:10] alright .. ill upload to ninja ppa after its done [12:10] and bzr, thanks :) [12:10] yeah :) [12:14] lex79: any news on your UDS application? [12:15] shadeslayer: I didn't apply, I already finished my vacations this year [12:16] ohh... :( [12:17] (I won't make it because of school) [12:18] no one coming to disney land then? :P [12:19] shadeslayer: Riddell posted a list of Kubuntuish people that applied a coupld of days ago. [12:19] * shadeslayer looks at logs [12:20] ah i remember... he did [12:20] * JontheEchidna is off for the morning [12:20] JontheEchidna: cya.. [12:22] shadeslayer, what did you write? this client here is the evil [12:22] hehe [12:22] androidlogger: btw line 439 of http://reviewboard.kde.org/r/5049/diff/#index_header isnt needed at all because line 420 already sets url [12:24] looks like it [12:24] * shadeslayer eliminates some more setUrl calls [12:35] damn it. I was already 2 hours into compiling qt and my pc crashed ......... :( :( :( [12:35] apparle_: so? [12:35] you can continue from there [12:35] just type make -j3 .. and itll continue [12:36] shadeslayer: pbuilder.. [12:36] oic .. :P [12:36] shadeslayer: does pbuilder take that option? [12:36] no [12:36] :( :( :( [12:36] since its a *clean* chroot :D [12:36] why were you compiling it anyways> [12:37] 2 hours? that must be a sloooooow computer [12:37] shadeslayer: qtwebkit patch [12:37] oh [12:38] heh.. the indian ubuntu mirror is fail [12:38] * shadeslayer switches to main mirror [12:38] Sput: its not very slow... but not a fast computer also.... 2.8GHz pentium D and 1.2GB RAM [12:38] shadeslayer: I have already downloaded all the required archives so no problem [12:38] ah... low RAM i guess ^ [12:39] shadeslayer: that is low? [12:39] shadeslayer: I never fill it up ever [12:39] apparle_: i have 3GB and kdepim-runtime takes 20 mins to build :P [12:39] so.. id say qt needs about 2GB atleast to build quickly [12:39] but I never knew compiling was memory heavy [12:39] depends really [12:40] idk what debuilder passes to make -j [12:40] anyways I am not going to buy a new computer... so I have to use this whether slow or fast... so the pbuilder starts again [12:41] lex79: kdepim is going to take 50 mins to build :P [12:42] I'm doing kdepim... [12:44] shadeslayer: didn't you say that you're doing -runtime? [12:44] yes, im just warning you :D [12:45] ah :) [12:45] nah..15 mins here [12:47] yofel: Congratulations on being famous. [12:48] huh? [12:48] yofel: You're Philip Muskovac, right? [12:48] oh, did mark post his blog? ^^ [12:48] He did. [12:48] ScottK: what happened? :D [12:48] yay :D [12:48] shadeslayer: See p.u.c. [12:48] * shadeslayer looks [12:49] yofel: Since you're big on Scribus, any chance you could look at the newer scribus-ng package in Debian Unstable and see if we want to update before release? [12:49] * Sput thinks having a separate $HOME makes a lot of sense [12:49] oic :P [12:49] * shadeslayer congrats yofel [12:51] ScottK: I only skimmed it so far, maybe I'll have time to look at the changes in 1.3.8 more in depth tomorrow [12:51] yofel: Thanks. I suspect we want it, but would appreciate it if you could have a look. [12:52] (If I do it, I can't approve the freeze exception if needed) [12:52] ScottK: http://tsdgeos.blogspot.com/2010/09/ebook-tools-02-released.html [12:53] do we need a FFe for this? [12:53] Looking [12:53] lex79: If it's just the bug fixes, no. [12:53] Ok I'm going to do then [12:54] androidlogger: any suggestions for line 504 condition? since i removed filterType, and m_url is always equal to url, id guess the code is redundant there? http://reviewboard.kde.org/r/5049/diff/#index_header [12:55] ok so aprt from the KIconLoader stuff, everything else is fixed i think [12:58] debfx: Have you got time to look at a bug? [12:59] :O [12:59] lex79: kdepim-runtime is not in source format 3, do you want me to convert it? or keep as such [12:59] shadeslayer: It's a new upstream version, right? [13:00] ScottK: its a bug fix release [13:00] we want source format 3 like the other KDE packages [13:00] Yes. [13:00] so convert it then :) [13:00] shadeslayer: If it's a new upstream version (even bugfix), yes. [13:02] ScottK: yes [13:02] debfx: Bug #627815 looks like a timing issue between XDG directory creation and kde somehow. [13:02] Launchpad bug 627815 in kde4libs (Ubuntu Maverick) "unable to save user-places.xbel" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/627815 [13:03] It doesn't actually cause major problems, but the warning that's produced is going to scare people. [13:04] The /etc/X11/Xsession.d/60xdg-user-dirs-update should in theory run before, so maybe it's not creation, but I've got no other theory. [13:06] so the error shows up when you boot the live iso? [13:07] debfx: Yes. If you are booting into a display with low enough resolution to get plasma-netbook by default. [13:08] ScottK: can I force it to run plasma-netbook? [13:08] debfx: I don't think so. [13:08] If you run it in a VM, the display resolution will be low enough. [13:09] hm, you can't make build-deps optional right? like: use it if it exists and ignore it otherwise [13:09] yofel: No. [13:09] ok, means scribus-trunk lucid will need a packaging fork thanks to qtwebkit.. [13:10] ScottK: has the cdrom drive check been removed? [13:10] debfx: I think so. [13:13] yofel: I think can do something like libqt4-dev (>= 4.7~), libqt4-dev (<< 4.7~~) | qtwebkit-dev (and I didn't check package names, so check that too) [13:13] I'll try that, thanks [13:15] heh.. something weird happened, kdepim compiled in seconds [13:15] s/kdepim/kdepim-runtime [13:16] guys I want to depelop a cross platform game.... please suggest a library. [13:16] apparle_: idk if gluon is cross platform or not, but thats one of the libs i know about [13:17] apparle_: http://doc.trolltech.com/4.7-snapshot/qml-advtutorial.html < too [13:18] shadeslayer: not today but maybe after a decade... I'd like to make some money off it. But Qt licenses are not exactly cheap... so no qt [13:20] ok keep aside games.... Suggest a cross platform IDE,..... I know about eclipse and netbeans... tell me which is good or if you know any other [13:20] apparle_: qtcreator [13:21] well ... more qt there ;) [13:21] there was one more... i dont remember which .. sheytan_ has the full list IIRC [13:21] apparle_: Isn't Qt LGPL now? [13:21] ScottK: Yes it is [13:22] ScottK: I am not that aware of licenses but in my knowledge if I have to sell applications written in qt I have to buy a commercial license or something [13:22] You can choose which licence you want to you [13:22] use [13:22] apparle_: Not anymore. [13:22] is that so? [13:22] Yes Scott is right [13:22] Because it's also licensed LGPL now you can link proprietary work to it. [13:22] so I can sell applications written in Qt open source version as closed source ... awesome [13:23] IANAL and all that, but txwikinger is. [13:23] shadeslayer what list? [13:23] sheytan_: the IDE list ... [13:23] you wanted it for the site [13:24] shadeslayer, yep, and ive got kdevelop, qtcreator, localize, kate, and qt assistant [13:24] that's what i used for the website [13:24] apparle_: ^ [13:24] lex79: im uploading kdepim-runtime ;) [13:24] good [13:25] again more or less kde and qt... I am looking for windows as well... and for developing other than qt or kde [13:26] ive to go, bye ;) [13:26] sheytan_: cya [13:38] * Sput wonders why people still insist in developing closed-source software [13:43] Sput: I don't intend to do so. But if I am working for a company which asks me to do so, then I don't want to move to visual studio or something. [13:45] I see. [13:45] well, keeping people away from MSVC is definitely a good thing [13:47] I think I'll start with SDL for game development, anyone has any comments, pointers, suggestions on this? [13:54] shadeslayer: did you make any changes to the debian folder of qipmsg. [13:54] shadeslayer: I want to compile it, so do I have to make any changes [13:54] no changes required to compile it [13:54] BUT.. needs proper documentation of copyright [13:54] shadeslayer: hmmm so I can at least compile for myself [13:54] yes [13:55] there are also packages in my ppa btw [13:55] shadeslayer: those are for qt 4.7, I have old qt [13:55] Riddell: Any help needed before the feature freeze? [13:56] apparle_: oh... [13:57] txwikinger: See kubuntu-devel ML for stuff coming up to do. [13:58] shadeslayer: can you commit your kdepim-runtime changes to bzr? [13:58] lex79: im waiting the package to build in PPA [13:58] kk [13:59] lex79: 32 bit built, committing [14:00] thanks === Nightrose2 is now known as Nightrose [14:19] jussi: um.. no bug links in ubottu PM ? [14:20] lex79: can you upload new choqok ? [14:20] bug 628051 << doesnt need FFe i think [14:20] Launchpad bug 628051 in choqok (Ubuntu) "FFe: Choqok choqok 0.9.90" [Wishlist,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/628051 [14:20] ScottK: ^ [14:21] imo this is more of a Bug fix release [14:21] shadeslayer: Please know, don't guess. [14:21] im not guessing, im saying that thats my opinion [14:22] since it doesnt add any new features other than adding a new url shortner [14:22] +services [14:25] OK. It needs an FFe then. [14:27] well then [14:27] if maverick was any more shit on this system I would get drunk right now [14:28] oh well, I suppose it cant hurt to get drunk anyway [14:28] Since we are releasing with 4.5.1 and not 4.5.2, it would be good if someone was watching kdesvn for important commits we might cherrypick. [14:28] apachelogger: Your threshold for that is not particularly high. [14:28] apachelogger: What's wrong with it? [14:29] ok .. ill add the necessary details then === kubotu_ is now known as kubotu [14:34] i still have no idea where my .debs go after building ... [14:34] and no, theyre not in /var/cache/pbuilder/result/ [14:35] :D [14:36] shadeslayer: lets hope that doesn't happen to me, after waiting for 2 hours [14:36] shadeslayer: /var/cache/pbuilder/maverick-amd64/result/ ? [14:36] hehe... im using all of the pbuilder hooks in the bzr branch [14:37] yofel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/491584/ << ls -l of /var/cache/pbuilder/ [14:38] shadeslayer: pastebin your .pbuilderrc [14:38] yofel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/491585/ [14:39] odd, should be in BUILDRESULT=/var/cache/pbuilder/result/ [14:41] yeah i know... [14:41] yofel: im using all of the pbuilder scripts from kubuntu-members bzr branch [14:41] maybe that might affect it [14:42] I do too, and they're at the defined place here [14:42] any ideas why installing foomatic-db on Kubuntu 10.10, wants to remove kubuntu-desktop? [14:43] shadeslayer: here's my rc [14:43] http://paste.ubuntu.com/491591/ [14:44] yofel: quite different from mine ;) [14:44] ScottK: ebook-tools https://launchpad.net/~alessandro-ghersi/+archive/ppa/+packages [14:48] I am facing a severe diskspace problem... before pbuilder started building qt, I had 5GB free space. Now I only have 60MB free. Help. Tell me few locations to free space fast. [14:49] mfraz74: kubuntu and ubuntu use foomatic-db-compressed-ppds [14:50] apparle_: sudo apt-get clean to get rid of downloaded .debs? [14:50] and yes, qt needs a lot of space [14:50] yofel: I need those, later... backing them up. Anywhere else [14:51] yofel: that will only free 1GB, what to do after that [14:53] is there any command to display the size of each folder? [14:54] not that I know of, there's 'du -sh *' to list the folders that you have in the folder that you're in now, and there's baobab for a graphical inspection (gnome) [14:55] crap, while I'm talking here apt ran out of space here :S [14:59] how to clean thumbnail cache.... its taking 60Mb here [15:00] for KDE we have filelight to inspect disk usage [15:02] EagleScreen_: and is it installed? [15:02] not by default [15:02] EagleScreen_: else I am in trouble,... no space here [15:02] filelight must use very few space [15:03] lex79: Looking. [15:04] apparle_: Quickest way to get a large chunk of space back is remove the tarball for your pbuilder chroot and recreate it later after you're back in safe territory. [15:04] apparle_: thumbnail cache is in ~/.thumbnails [15:05] ScottK: but pbuilder is compiling... would removing it be okay? [15:05] pbuilder also uses a seperate aptcache by default, /var/cache/pbuilder/aptcache - might be worth to clean that too [15:05] apparle_: also, sudo apt-get clean [15:05] smarter_: already done [15:05] apparle_: Not sure. [15:06] apparle_: I made a simple scripts years ago to get some spaces back: http://opendesktop.org/content/show.php/Ubucleaner?content=71529 [15:06] *script [15:06] apparle_: remove some old kernels too if you have any [15:06] my script does that :p [15:06] well, it did years ago [15:07] the .kde folder in home is taking a lot of space (1.2GB) any pointers on cleaning it without obviously messing all my settings [15:07] akregator cache? [15:08] here it's nepomuk using 1.3G o.O [15:08] yay [15:08] 18481295 1.2G -rw------- 1 yofel yofel 1.2G 2010-09-10 16:05 soprano-virtuoso.db [15:09] yofel: I have disabled nepomuk, does the database automatically get disabled or do I have to delete [15:10] you probably have to delete it, I disabled it once too and the db is obviously still there [15:10] yofel: where is it? [15:10] /home/yofel/.kde/share/apps/nepomuk/repository/main/data/virtuosobackend [15:10] lex79: Uploaded. Thanks. [15:10] apachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/491606/ << have a look [15:11] just need to test build now [15:12] yofel: thanks... another 900MB free [15:12] "//Declare some variables that are used afterwards", great comment :p [15:12] smarter_: haha :P [15:13] I just saw I have many builds in var/cache/pbuilder? Can I delete old ones? [15:14] I mean how to find which ones are old, [15:14] apparle_: id say remove /var/cache/pbuilder/result [15:15] apparle_: ls -l? :p [15:15] shadeslayer: but pbuilder is compiling, so wouldn't that mess up? [15:15] smarter_: what was that for? [15:15] apparle_: finding which one are old [15:16] apparle_: no, the result are the old .debs you build with pbuilder before, your current build is in build/ [15:16] apparle_: no.. [15:17] no use.. it contained only few mbs [15:18] last time I was compiling qt using pbuilder (2hrs into it), I had to hard-reboot. so would that have left files in build? [15:19] apparle_: you should only have 1 folder in build/ [15:19] if you have more than they are wasting space [15:19] there are 5 [15:19] actually, 1 folder for every pbuilder currently running [15:20] only one running [15:20] apparle_: You can remove the rest. That will get you lots of space back. [15:20] ScottK: re bug 628051, anything missing ? [15:20] Launchpad bug 628051 in choqok (Ubuntu) "FFe: Choqok choqok 0.9.90" [Wishlist,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/628051 [15:20] then you have 4 folders that you don't need, maybe check the timestaps on them and delete the old ones [15:20] shadeslayer: Install log? [15:20] there are 5 folders, one 4.2GB, 2.4Gb, 300MB,400MB, 1.4GB [15:21] oh... damn .. one sec [15:21] yofel: I'll see the timestamps [15:21] * shadeslayer needs to locate the deb to install it [15:21] shadeslayer: At this point I'd like to hear about how it's been tested. [15:21] ok [15:23] yofel: you are sure of this. I don't want to start building qt again.? [15:25] apparle_: well, if one of the folders has a reasonable recent timestamp (it should have been created when you started building) it should be fine to delete the others [15:25] and pbuilder tells you the build folder at the start, but I doubt your scrollback is large enough for that [15:25] and if you removed result/ you probably don't have the current build log either anymore [15:27] yofel: any ideas where my debs are hiding ? :D [15:28] shadeslayer: sudo find / -iname '*.deb' [15:28] hmm [15:29] might take a while but it should fine them :P [15:29] probably [15:29] yofel: thanks, it cleared another 4GB [15:31] yofel: i modified to : sudo find / -iname '*choqok*.deb' [15:34] now that I have cleared the diskspace problems... there are memory problems... [15:34] what is 'ld' it is consuming a hell lot of memory in the system monitor [15:35] apparle_: Try man ld. [15:35] You'll find it's not suprising. [15:35] yofel: nothing with my modified command :( [15:35] just /var/cache/apt/archives/choqok_0.9.85-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb [15:36] are you sure that it actually *built* ? got the log somewhere? [15:36] can't try it, it is taking years to type itself, forget krunner or anything else. my memory is already full and swap has increased by a GB in last 2 min [15:36] apparle_: OK. It's the linker. [15:37] kdepim 4.4.6 is announced. Is it ready to upload? [15:37] ahh, so I can say at least compilation is over. How much time would it take to link qt :P [15:37] ScottK: runtime in ninja ppa [15:38] kdepim is being done by lex79 [15:38] Doesn't need to be in Ninja. It can go in staging. [15:38] lex79: Let me know when it's ready. [15:38] schmidtm: thanks [15:38] i can copy it [15:40] done [15:40] shadeslayer: linking does depend on RAM, and I am going to buy a new RAM card ASAP [15:40] :) [15:41] apparle_: Dunno how long linking takes, but it's not fast. [15:41] Right now my RAM is full and swap is 1.5GB :( [15:42] even the mouse is not moving smoothly :( :( :( :( I'll talk later when the conditions improve [15:43] Also next time I am going to build qt in recovery mode without any GUI [15:43] :-) [15:44] for some reason kubuntu-desktop is being held back [15:45] shadeslayer: It's fixed a few hours ago. Once your mirror catches up dist-upgrade should fix it. [15:45] ok.. [15:46] ok guys, bye I'll come back after a few hours to check :) One thing for sure building qt on slow computer takes more that 4 hours [15:48] and the conditions have suddenly improved :) allthough it is again compiling some files...so I think compiling is not yet over [15:51] that should be the make install run, so it should be over soon I think [15:53] no it had just finished with a directory and now it has entered a new directory. I'll go for dinner bye. [15:55] ScottK: dunno ati graphics shit I suspect [15:55] or maybe general IO stuff [15:55] in any case I can freeze my system repeatedly within 3 minutes after boot [15:55] * apachelogger is now on lucid [15:55] apparle_: Free or proprietary drivers? [15:55] free [15:56] fglrx is not even ABI compatible with mavs driver yet [15:56] apachelogger: I think updating mesa might help. Try the mesa in ppa:sarvatt/ppa. [15:56] ScottK: oh and upgrading to the mesa you proposed shot X completely ... kwin commited sucide [15:56] might have been by something else tough [15:56] apachelogger: try disabling KMS [15:56] Ah, OK. [15:57]