[00:10] hey guys I am trying to install a .bin file I know it should just be ./install.bin....I already made it executable. but I get directory not found. any ideas? [00:12] afink: try "sh install.bin" [00:14] oh yeah...duh. weird...got Syntax error: "(" unexpected [00:14] sounds like a bug in the .bin but... maybe are you sure it should be sh? [00:14] sh is dash on ubuntu [00:14] try with bash [00:15] must be a bug [00:17] Does the error specify a line number? If so, you may be able to open the file in your favorite editor and correct it. [00:17] no I wish it did [00:17] its sugarcrm [00:18] its binary so I don't think I can [00:19] You're downloading the Fastrack version? [00:23] ya needed a test in a hurry [00:23] I was trying to get something setup for a meeting tomorrow morning [00:24] thanks guys [00:24] grab apache and php from repos and unzip the zip file (top of download page) to /var/www [00:26] ya...it works better for multiple instances too...I will later time to smoke right now. [00:39] I did something really dumb... I deleted my current window list at the bottom panel; so when I minimize a windows I can't get it back [00:39] How do I get the widget or whatever it is back? [00:40] Alt+tab should still show the windows. Also, the taskbar is just a Plasma widget that you should be able to add back to the panel. [00:41] Yeah, it's a wdget called Task Manager [00:41] *Widget [00:41] nvm [00:44] i was on gde. then i installed kubuntu. i was able to go to ubuntu and kubuntu both for some time but now whenever i run linux kubuntu automatically runs pls help [00:45] :( also when i use logout. it doesnt turn off the cpu. only display is turned off [00:56] hawkI thank you, sir. i just reinstalled kubuntu heh === visita is now known as visita_ [00:59] dk12548: you can install the package "ubuntu-default-settings", which should change the boot splash, login screen, and default window manager. [01:00] ohh kkk e_t_ i am trying and will give you response in a while [01:05] e_t_: i am not able to install that pls tell me how can i install it [01:06] Do you know how to open a terminal window? [01:06] yes i know that [01:07] OK. Open a terminal and type "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-default-settings" [01:07] It will ask for your password. [01:08] E: Couldn't find package ubuntu-default-settings [01:08] it is giving this error [01:09] Hmm. Try "sudo apt-get update". [01:09] ok [01:09] It completed without errors? [01:10] its saying to hit some email addresses [01:11] yes [01:12] Try the first command again. [01:12] same error e_t_ [01:13] unable to find the package.:( [01:13] cant i restore the whole thing back [01:14] ?/ [01:14] What do you mean restore the whole thing? [01:16] i mean when i was on windows and something gone bad then i used to restore my whole computer to previous times [01:16] as if it was in that time. [01:16] its called time machine in mac [01:16] Well, you *can* do that, but there's no need, not for this. [01:17] ohhhhhhhh really, actually my logon screen is not displayed [01:17] ? [01:17] We'll try something different. Type "cd /etc/X11" [01:17] ok then [01:18] Now "cat default-display-manager" and tell me what it says. [01:19] /usr/sbin/gdm [01:21] OK. That's regular Ubuntu's display manager. When you start the computer, does it come up to a login screen or just to a terminal login? [01:21] niether of them bro. when i start my pc kubuntu comes. [01:21] no logon screen is displayed [01:22] it used to display the logon screen for some days [01:22] Do you have auto-login enabled? [01:22] i dont know that [01:22] please tell me brother [01:24] Let's check. Open System Settings and find the Login Screen option. It will be in the advanced tab if you're using so.. do you want to convert all to Kubuntu? [01:26] what is the problem? [01:28] i opened system settings but there is no login screen option in that [01:29] Did you look for an advanced tab? [01:29] yes [01:29] EagleScreen_: i am not able to see the logon screen [01:29] dk12548: what are you trying to do? [01:29] ok [01:30] what happens when you close your session? [01:30] it turns off my display, but my cpu is not turned off [01:31] e_t_: hey it shows an option of login manager [01:31] dk12548: be sure you have got kdm installed [01:31] what is kdm? [01:31] KDE Display Manager [01:31] you are using gdm (the Gnome one) right now [01:31] Login manager might be it. [01:31] i am in kdm [01:31] sure? [01:32] default.display-manager says /usr/sbin/gdm [01:32] yes [01:32] run sudo aptitude install kdm [01:32] ok just a moment EagleScreen_ [01:33] if it is already installed, run: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm, and select kdm instead of gdm as default [01:33] k its done EagleScreen_ [01:33] dk12548: are you in lucid? [01:33] yes EagleScreen_ [01:34] which graphics crad? [01:34] card? [01:34] nvdia 8400 gs [01:35] but EagleScreen_ my problem is that i am not able to see the logon screen [01:35] your X seerver may be crashing when you go to KDM [01:35] i used to see it till two days before [01:36] and what did you do? [01:36] what did you chnage? [01:36] i dont remember just installed compiz [01:36] compiz in KDE? [01:36] that is absurd [01:36] no actually i installed it in gde [01:37] in Gnome [01:37] ya [01:37] and two days before you saw KDM property? [01:37] but i configed it in kde [01:37] no i didnt know about it till today [01:38] use compiz in KDE is a bad idea [01:38] oh so what can i do now? i have made changes in compiz while i was on kde [01:38] like i checked the cube option etc [01:39] KDE has it own effects [01:39] cant i restore it EagleScreen_ [01:39] may be [01:40] dk12548: have you disabled auto-login yet? [01:40] no, i dont know how to do that :( EagleScreen_ [01:41] that's the kubuntu room I remember. [01:41] tell me EagleScreen_ how can i disable auto login? [01:41] dk12548: Systemsettings -> Advanced -> Login Screen [01:42] its nothing called login screen here [01:42] there is a login manager [01:42] should i open it? [01:43] ofcourse open what I said [01:43] So, Something happened to my box this last update. The whole system is nothing but garbage apparently. On Startup, BIOS loads, then I get the briefest flash of the KUBUNTU blues and then am shunted to "ash" which tells me that no init was found, try passing init=bootarg. [01:43] Tejyasn: it may be a kernel update, did you try another old kernel? [01:43] but its not there [01:44] I cannot get past the "no init found" [01:44] there isnt Login Screen icon? [01:44] nope [01:44] nope [01:44] dk12548: let me check [01:44] Open the login manager, just to see. [01:44] ok e_t_ [01:45] i have opened it [01:45] now? [01:45] @EagleScreen_ I have tried both Ubuntu and Kubuntu Live-CD and neither of them can either run from CD or Install, I keep getting error messages [01:45] Do you see a tab titled Convenience? [01:45] yes e_t_ [01:45] Click on that. [01:46] i have done that [01:46] oh you already were on it! [01:46] but enable auto login check box is not ticked [01:47] dk12548: so you are using gdm istead of kdm? [01:47] no i am on kdm right not [01:47] While I believe I can install windows, then re-install Kubuntu, I would like to save as much of the HDD contents as possible, and windows wants to format. [01:49] tell me something, if autologon is not enabled then where is the problem. why i am not able to see the logon screen [01:49] because you ahve autologin enabled in gdm and you are uding gdm istead of kdm === liveuser is now known as Daskreech [01:50] so how can i cure it EagleScreen_ [01:51] why does asound.state reset it's configuration when i reboot? [01:52] Tejyasn: What's the situation? [01:52] any help? [01:53] With? [01:53] Hello everyone. I'm wondering how I can set an audio visualizer as my desktop wallpaper. Has anyone heard of that or knows how to do it? [01:53] heya Daskreech. I did some patching, according to kpac, just some security updates, and now I can't even boot Kubuntu. I just get an error message of "no init found. Try passing init=bootarg" [01:54] dk12548: you must change it in the gdm preferences [01:54] and how can i do that even when i cant login in gdm? [01:54] Ertain: if it's an app just run it as the root window [01:55] I have tried a live CD of both Ubuntu and Kubuntu, and neither of them can either install fresh or run from CD, both options give me the same error about skipping a certain file set (I can reboot the box and transcribe if asked) [01:55] EagleScreen_: cant i restore my system back to my privios times? [01:55] dk12548: the easiest way is to change your default display manager to KDM [01:55] Tejyasn: can You get to bustbox? [01:55] yes, I am there [01:55] gah this applet doesn't tab [01:55] dk12548: time machine is not available in Ubuntu, sorry [01:55] ohhhhhhhhh and how can i do that EagleScreen_ [01:55] Tejyasn: oh first of all You get the grub menu? [01:56] oh no :( [01:56] can You get to the grub menu? [01:56] I often a window or dialog box up against the top edge of the screen and it will automatically sometimes make it take up the full screen. How do I disable this feature? [01:56] one sec, let me start her up so I can follow along. I'm not fantastically savy with the software side of things [01:57] i am a windows geek. but lower than a noob in linux:(( [01:57] ok, Daskreech, what is the grub? [01:58] grand unified bootloader [01:58] its a kind of boot manager Tejyasn [01:58] Tejyasn: When you are starting up you get a message saying press Esc to see Grub menu [01:58] very early in teh boot. Right after POST [01:58] can You press Esc at that point? [01:58] umm.. no I don't [01:59] You should get a list of options [01:59] What do you see after post? [01:59] How do I do that, Daskreech? Is it related to the krunner? [01:59] so cant i repair the whole thing? [01:59] Daskreech, I go from BIOS load to a brief flash of the kubuntu load screen, then STRAIGHT to "No init found." [02:00] i have a dual boot. i dont want to remove the whole c drive of mine [02:00] Ertain: no the background is a "layer" in X. Esentially a program. You can replace it with any program you like [02:00] Tejyasn: press Esc on the brief Kubuntu Load screen [02:00] Daskreech, with GRUB2, it's the shift key, not Esc. (I think) [02:00] e_t_: thanks [02:00] Tejyasn: or esc [02:00] I mean shift [02:00] Daskreech: Do you know how I might do that? Or what the "program" might be? [02:01] what I see now is....BusyBox v1.13.3 (Ubuntu 1:1.13.3-1ubuntu11) etc [02:01] Daskreech, that is like trying to time a button press to lightning.. [02:01] Ertain: I don't know if you have a "program" You said that you wanted an audio analyzer as your background. If that audio analysis is a program that you hacen run ten yes you can [02:01] it is literally THAT fast [02:02] dk12548: open a terminal [02:02] ok. i opened it [02:02] Well, it's more like an audio visualizer. [02:02] run this command: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm [02:02] I'm using kde4, btw. [02:02] choose kdm [02:02] Tejyasn: :0 Ok [02:02] and reboot [02:02] HAH! [02:02] Tejyasn: can You type ls /dev/sd* [02:02] do you get a response? [02:03] I got the GRUB [02:03] ok i have done that [02:03] What I need to do is pipe or move that visualization into the wallpaper/background... thingy. [02:03] Tejyasn: ok great :) is there a menu of options? [02:03] ok EagleScreen_ i will come back in a while [02:03] after rebooting [02:03] but one more problem [02:03] Ertain: how are you getting the visulalization? [02:03] Hmm... [02:03] Daskreech, yes there is, I am guessing a recovery mode one? [02:03] i dont get any option of rebooting [02:04] I think in Audacious. Though that's just a plugin. [02:04] how can i reboot from cli [02:04] Tejyasn: no that takes you to busybox [02:04] oh [02:04] Tejyasn: how many options do you have? [02:04] There has to be something that can output a song in some window. :-/ [02:04] Ertain: likely [02:05] if anyone wants to take a crack at it http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3113610.0 [02:05] Daskreech, I have 4 "Ubuntu, with Linux 2.6.3x-xx-generic" and the corresponding four "recovery mode" options, and two for a memory test [02:06] Tejyasn: have you tried all of them? [02:06] Ertain: You can probably ask in #plasma or #kde if you like [02:06] EagleScreen_, I am afraid to touch anything at this point [02:07] Tejyasn: try the oldest one listed that's not recovery [02:07] Tejyasn: don't be afraid. i had to reinstall 4 times yesterday x) [02:07] Daskreech, I'm blaming you if I catch on fire.... [02:07] this is K/Ubuntu guys! it breaks sometimes! [02:07] ok... [02:07] EagleScreen_: welcome to having a general purpose OS [02:07] and other times it never works in the first place xD [02:07] this does not look good [02:08] Can do, Daskreech. [02:08] illunatic: welcome to Linux in that case :) [02:08] heh [02:08] thanks Daskreech [02:08] For desktop background, what is the difference between scaled and scaled & cropped? Which is better? [02:08] * Ertain joins plasma [02:08] hi EagleScreen_, same problem again [02:08] busy today? [02:08] MarkSS: depends on the wallpaper try both choose the one you like better [02:09] 1920x1200 on a 1980x1080 monitor [02:09] dk12548: so dont use any of them [02:09] no logon screen. one more problem. now on loging me in kde it says that my audio devices are not warking properly [02:09] but there is no option of that [02:09] dk12548: a tipicla bug when you dont use kdm [02:10] what kind of bug? [02:10] so now i think you have changed from kdm to gdm? this is strange [02:10] Is there a such thing as Kubuntu Software Center? [02:10] Tejyasn: what's happening ? [02:10] MarkSS: strictly speaking no [02:10] no i am still on kdm [02:10] dk12548: kdm and kde are not the same [02:10] !kdm [02:10] ohhhhhhhhh, what is kdm?? [02:11] Daskreech, the one with the Billy Mays speak says "/dev/sda1: unexpected inconsistency; run fsck manually [02:11] k desktop environment? [02:11] KDM = KDE Display Manager; KDE = KDE Desktop Enviroment [02:11] then there is a mountall; fsck / [2769] terminated with status 4 [02:11] KDM launches KDE, Gnome or any other Desktop Enviroment [02:11] Tejyasn: oh Ok that's better. your file system got corrupted .. somehow [02:11] O_o [02:12] Oh that's not as good [02:12] that happens on linux? I thought that is why I ran away from windows? [02:12] Tejyasn: have a live CD ? or USB? [02:12] ohhhhh but isnt there gdm to lauch gde? EagleScreen_ [02:12] ummm.. what about "mountall: Filesystem has errors: /"? [02:12] I have tried live CD, it's no help... [02:13] i mean how can kdm launch gde? [02:13] unless you have a trick... [02:13] dk12548: both: GDM and KDM can launch both: Gnome & KDE [02:13] Tejyasn: what does that mean? [02:13] dk12548: I ma not sure which one are you using right now.. [02:13] Daskreech, I cannot install or run kubuntu from the CD [02:13] dk12548: uninstall gdm or both of them, kdm and gdm [02:13] oh, isnt there any command [02:14] oh ok [02:14] I get errorsm one's a glib [02:14] Tejyasn: on the CD ? [02:14] dk12548: sudo aptitude remove gdm [02:14] mmhmm [02:14] and reboot [02:14] let me call them up and transcribe... [02:14] * Daskreech raises eyebrow [02:14] k wait a moment i am doing that [02:15] Daskreech, want me to try installing or running? [02:15] I am on the liveCD [02:15] Tejyasn: running [02:15] Runni ng it is [02:15] wait [02:15] waiting [02:15] press F6 [02:15] pressed, I have options [02:16] You should get a long list of things at the bottom of the screen [02:16] that ends with a -- [02:16] You can use the left/right arrows and traverse it [02:16] VERY long [02:16] right [02:16] ok at the end BEFORE the -- put the word single [02:17] then run the live CD [02:17] after splash? [02:17] Right [02:17] so single -- ? [02:17] right [02:17] ok... running [02:18] * Daskreech waits anxiously [02:18] ok.. lets try his again, making sure "single" is written in. [02:18] No what happened? [02:18] How does KDESudo differ from sudo [02:19] Daskreech: Hia [02:19] elijah: it's tuned for Gui elements which can touch more files than a command line client will [02:20] Daskreech: thx [02:21] * Tejyasn` grumbles [02:21] it's actually loading.. [02:22] @Daskreech I have a desktop! [02:22] ok EagleScreen_ thanks. now i can seee the login screen but still my second problem persist [02:22] :-) Dirty CDs are the bane of my now floppy less exsistence [02:22] Tejyasn`: Bleah :) [02:22] ok open a Konsole === root is now known as Guest38963 [02:22] when i logout. it simply show a black screen [02:23] Opened [02:23] it doesnt logout me :( [02:23] Tejyasn`: ls /dev/sd* [02:23] Daskreech, there is a shiny penny in it for you of I don't have to re-install my drivers XD [02:23] dk12548: can you read anything in the black screen? [02:23] or my unending graditude and the name of my first child.. <_< [02:23] ok [02:24] !paste | Tejyasn` [02:24] Tejyasn`: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [02:24] no there is nothing just the cursor keep on blinking EagleScreen_ [02:25] umm.. there is only one line "/dev/sda /dev/sda1 /dev/sda2 /dev/sda5" [02:26] dk12548: and how do you return to the Desktop? [02:26] Tejyasn`: Oh the only thing on this computer is Linux? [02:26] mmhmm [02:26] i restared my computer manually [02:26] I am using another computer to talk to y'all [02:26] I realise [02:26] dk12548: next time try Ctrl + Alt + Del [02:26] but that computer doesn't have windows etc ? [02:26] nope [02:27] EagleScreen_: I think that's disabled [02:27] to restant? [02:27] Tejyasn`: Ok try sudo fsck /dev/sda[15] [02:27] can do [02:27] actually type in [15] [02:28] fsck [space] /dev? [02:28] Tejyasn`: space yes [02:28] EagleScreen_: strl+alt+del for restart? [02:28] ... [02:28] dk12548: yes, Ctrl + Alt + Del [02:29] EagleScreen_: ok but what about the problem? [02:29] i am not able to logout [02:29] dk12548: I think your X server is crashing when you logout [02:29] oh what is an X server? [02:29] dk12548: not sure if compiz or whatever you installed is the cause [02:30] your X server is the software which allow KDE, Gnome and so to run [02:30] hmmmm ubuntu people should include time machine :( [02:30] yes, they should [02:30] oh ok EagleScreen_ [02:30] Daskreech: http://paste.ubuntu.com/491345/ [02:30] dk12548: do you plan to use Gnome again? [02:31] so what i should do for that [02:31] yes of course [02:31] dk12548: Your X server provides you windows and mouse control [02:31] i want both desktops [02:31] dk12548: at least try uninstalling compiz [02:31] that does not look healthy [02:31] ok EagleScreen_ [02:31] Tejyasn`: no that's fine [02:31] and how? [02:31] oh... [02:31] you can't fsck swap [02:31] so it's telling you that [02:31] dk12548: sudo apt-get remove compiz-core [02:32] it's not fscked up? [02:32] sorry.... I saw the pun and had to take it [02:32] ok sudo fsck /dev/sda1 [02:32] ahahaha i fixed my mic [02:32] wasn't plugged in [02:32] jk [02:32] illunatic: whoooot :) [02:32] sudo-ing [02:32] i had to highlight capture in alamixer and press spacebar tho [02:32] Tejyasn`: :-) swap is always fscked up It's supposed to be [02:32] that was it. [02:32] ^5 [02:33] EagleScreen_: ok i have done it. [02:33] should i try to logout now? [02:33] dk12548: try rebooting [02:33] ok [02:33] and logout [02:33] wait [02:34] brb [02:34] Hey gang, I am relatively new to Kubuntu and am always getting "The application 'KDE Daemon' has requested to open the wallet 'kdewallet'" when I logon for the first time. This thread is my issue http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1268434.html - I installed wicd like it suggested but it doesn't seem to be replacing network manager with itself and I am still getting the password nag. When installing wicd, it did say I needed to [02:35] Daskreech: http://paste.ubuntu.com/491346/ [02:36] I assume yes? [02:37] no [02:37] look at the date [02:37] oh.. [02:37] it thinksthe day is mar 14 [02:38] ... and it says less than a day? [02:38] so I'll type "n" then [02:40] Tejyasn`: what's it doing now? [02:40] ok... pasting [02:41] http://paste.ubuntu.com/491348/ [02:41] Yeah fix that [02:42] Deleted inode 150540 has zero dtime. fix? [02:43] and it fixed three others [02:44] Yeah [02:44] * Daskreech brings up having your /home partition away from / at this point [02:44] we'll get to good houskeeping later XD [02:46] ok, long line of fixes, and then "Inode 408290 has a[n] extra size (46933) which is invalid. Fix?" [02:46] that's me fixing the grammar [02:47] Tejyasn`: ha ha submit a patch :0 [02:47] :-) [02:47] yes fix it [02:47] .... I WOULD submit a patch, just for that too... [02:48] Tejyasn`: nothing at all stops you from doing that [02:48] 408292 is the same error, fix? [02:48] Yes [02:49] 408295 has imagic flag set. Clear? [02:49] ah,, ummm ... ok sure [02:49] O-o [02:49] yes or no here.... [02:50] should I just fix all extra size errors? [02:50] yes [02:51] I've not heard of the imagic flag before [02:51] well I got another one for ya. Fixing? [02:51] but I've more trust in the fsck fixing code acumen than their grammar [02:51] heh [02:51] yes I'm not sure what it is but I trust they will do the right thing here [02:52] that's a lot of trust [02:52] there will be a directory named lost+found with the files that were "fixed" when done so you can go back and second guess them later if you like [02:53] 408290 has a bad extended attribute block 188096, Clear? [02:53] oh.. nice... [02:53] Yeah [02:53] Yes you can clear it === greyson is now known as kazenin [02:55] wow.. this one is full of win... 408290 i_size is 628684438487780, should be 0, Fix? [02:56] * Tejyasn` fixes with a shrug since you can review them later [02:58] Daskreech, what about a compression flag on a filesystem without compression support, clear? [02:59] Tejyasn`: ha ha I know that file [02:59] O_o [02:59] clear that [02:59] ok [02:59] your hard drive got messed up [03:00] looks like it... [03:00] also fixing i_size and i_blocks should be 0 errors.. [03:00] and clearing all compression flags, I guess [03:01] ooh.. new one. 408295 has index fl flag but is not a directory, Clear HTree index? [03:02] yes [03:02] that would be interesting to play with though :) [03:02] clearing [03:02] how interesting? [03:02] I'd keep that and play with it but then that doesn't help you at all [03:02] hehehe [03:03] clear all HTree errors? [03:03] * Tejyasn` got another one... <_< [03:03] If it's not a directory yes [03:03] they say it's not so... [03:04] and I found illegal blocks too... [03:04] clearing, I assume [03:04] You can't do anything with them so yes [03:04] but there are too many illegal blocks, it wants to clear the whole inode... [03:05] that might mean file loss but at this point you can go with it [03:05] * Tejyasn` winces [03:05] there is nothing I can really do about it, is there? [03:05] It's far more likely it's some system file [03:06] * Tejyasn` hopes and clears [03:06] There is but go with it for now you can rebuild if it's really bad [03:06] what CAN be done, because it just happened again [03:07] You can try and move the inodes yourself. You really don't have enough of an idea as to how Linux file systems are organized to make that call [03:07] no I do not.. [03:08] I can assure you that I've only ever had two drastic failures when jsut letting the fsck fix it and both of those the hard drive it self was failing so I can't really blame the file system [03:08] It did what it could [03:08] and I've had to fix dozens of servers and hard drives failing [03:09] ... you are failing to inspire me with hope here... [03:09] If you really didn't want to agonize over it (I've been where you are) you can pass a -y to fsck [03:09] and it will fix anything that it thinks is fixable and leave anything that it can't [03:09] then you get a glass of water and reboot [03:09] nice.. [03:10] hey... I got to pass2 [03:11] Tejyasn`: :-) [03:11] hopefully this should be easierr [03:12] http://paste.ubuntu.com/491355/ [03:12] the funny thing is, wine had been giving me issues for a while lately, on the updates side.. [03:13] so clearing that, ja? [03:13] ha ok [03:13] II've not seen one that specific in a while :) [03:14] a plasma-desktop.tmp file sounds safe? [03:14] it's in /tmp [03:15] * Tejyasn` just clears unless she feels worried, howabouts? [03:16] ok.. what if it's in /.ecryptfs ? [03:16] Tejyasn`: yes [03:17] Tejyasn`: you can reencrypt as long as you have your password [03:17] ok [03:17] * Daskreech doesn't like encrypted directories [03:17] which I should have... [03:17] You have yours encrypted? [03:18] some... <_< [03:18] * Tejyasn` is a privacy nut.. even on her own systems [03:19] okie :) [03:19] but then you have to be careful about backups [03:19] ok.. got to pass 3, where we have "unconnected directory inode 408305 (...) I should connect this to the lost+found, ja? [03:19] You can lock yourself out of your own stuff pretty easy with proper encryption [03:20] and being open source there is no secret backdoor back in [03:20] already done that many a time XD [03:20] Tejyasn`: yep [03:21] Block Bitmap differences need to be fixed? [03:21] Tejyasn`: Ha ha I rely on peole like you [03:21] hehehe [03:21] sure that shouldn't be an issue of anything [03:21] no you don't... I make multiple hardcopies [03:22] hmm? [03:22] that's not what I meant :) [03:23] ok... after a few more bitmap fixes, and some wrong counts... I am back to normal... why do I feel like I just defragged? [03:23] and by normal I mean ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ [03:24] oh.. you mean on being really good at breaking things? [03:25] ok.. so... [03:26] Tejyasn`: I meant that we need people who are concious of privacy enough to ensure it's a priority [03:26] ah.. [03:26] I'm wary about it online but not enough on local machines [03:27] Tejyasn`: want to do a fire test? [03:27] when in doubt, encrypt, shred, and EMP [03:27] sure.. [03:27] * Tejyasn` gets a lighter? [03:28] or am I trying to boot my poor box on HDD? [03:28] press up and run the command again [03:28] oh.. that [03:29] ... sudo fsck /dev/sda1? [03:30] if I do that I get a warning about sda1 being mounted... a really big textbased warning [03:30] Tejyasn`: umm [03:30] cancel [03:30] type mount [03:30] type mount | grep sda1 [03:32] I get /dev/sda1 on /media/disk type ext4 (rw,nosuid,nodevmuhelper=hal) [03:33] what did I break? === ngthu is now known as EthanDuong [03:35] Tejyasn`: Nothing :) [03:36] type sudo umount /media/disk [03:37] Tejyasn`: hi again [03:38] heya, Daskreech.. [03:38] you can press up to get back the fsck command and run it again [03:38] stupid lags and pings.. [03:38] :-) [03:39] e2fsck 1.14.11 (march 14th) /dev/sda1 is mounted [03:39] should I not be on the liveCD for this? <_< [03:40] wait [03:40] aren;t you on the live cd? [03:40] I am.. [03:40] ls /media/disk [03:41] ok [03:41] do you get a list of directories [03:41] yes [03:42] sudo umount /dev/sda1 [03:43] sudo: unmount: command not found [03:43] Tejyasn: look what i wrote [03:43] oh.. [03:43] stupid n [03:44] ok [03:44] fsck that fscker? [03:44] yes [03:44] Worst named command ever [03:45] to save one keystroke they made it the most obtusely named command [03:45] * Tejyasn does her best impersonation of a midget paranormal expert [03:45] This /dev/sda1 is clean [03:45] and if anyone gets that reference, you are as big a dweeb as I am.. [03:46] Tejyasn: are you running from the police? [03:46] no.. I am not a small medium at large [03:46] curses [03:46] * Tejyasn smiles [03:47] ok.. so now that she reports as clean.... NOW I can try to boot/salvage her? [03:47] * Daskreech was going to have fries with that and supersize [03:47] hehehe [03:47] Tejyasn: please do [03:47] ok [03:47] My mother is almost done talking to me so I can go home :) [03:47] home is always good [03:48] uses the same letters on a phone pad too [03:48] though I feel that home is where the heart is, and my heart is always over the next horizon,,, [03:49] ~ is where the <3 is [03:49] I need that on a shirt [03:49] ~/ sweet ~/ ? [03:50] so what was I doing there? defragging and drive-cleaning? [03:50] * Daskreech was going to one up that but [03:50] Tejyasn: No fixing inode information for the file system on top of it [03:50] oh... [03:51] Essentially something bad happened [03:51] O_O [03:51] I can explain if you like [03:51] I am SO naming my first child after you... if I ever have children.. [03:51] or a fish... I cna do a fish [03:51] please? [03:51] Please can you name your fish? [03:52] sure.. I'll get another betta and name it "Daskreech, Saviour of my Ass" [03:52] Yay :-) [03:52] so what happened there? feel free to drop it in PM if you want [03:53] no more people can learn here [03:53] bah.. [03:53] people learning.. it's like teaching the serfs how to read.. [03:54] well. actually.. gimme asec as I am gonna try to see you all from the glory of my revived laptop [03:54] hooked on fonik [03:54] You presume a lot :) [03:54] yes I do ^_^ [03:55] ok... I'm here.. closing the other one [03:56] nymphaeaceae: Oh hi it's you :) [03:56] * Daskreech waves [03:56] yeah.. I usually go by Tej on IRC, but.. I decided to have a second name too.... the humble nymphaeaceae [03:56] ok so in UNIX each actual file is given a unique number called an inode [03:57] ok [03:57] when the OS is doing anything it does it on the inode level [03:57] like SSC [03:57] Hi everyone [03:57] I'm having a major problem [03:57] sort of like when you are doing anything the OS sees you as a UID [03:57] but you see yourself as say jenny [03:57] Taha__: hi [03:57] ok [03:57] Hi [03:57] Well, the problem is that fact that when I started up Ubuntu today, [03:58] All I got was a black screen, greeting me with a request of my user's account & password [03:58] So I enter my username & password, and it grants access to the commandline [03:58] Taha__: and you logged in? [03:58] Yes, successfully [03:58] I try to use the command: startx [03:58] But I get an error [03:58] saying that no screens were found [03:58] and that there is something wrong with fglrx [03:58] nymphaeaceae: now when you look at files you see a name and a position. that's all irrelevant to the OS [03:59] nymphaeaceae: in fact you can have multiple files with multiple names all be the same file as long as they point at the same inode [03:59] Taha__: what's wrong with fglrx? [03:59] Umm, it says something is corrupted I believe [03:59] ok.... === greyson is now known as Kazenin [04:00] so what I see is a placeholder for what the OS sees. [04:01] nymphaeaceae: right you see a name all the real info is in the inode which ... you can see if you want. [04:01] try ls -i [04:01] <_< [04:01] that sounds scary [04:01] Taha__: anything more descriptive? [04:01] Umm, I'm trying to find someone with a similar problem [04:01] I've found this threadL [04:02] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=7b2a614a14c5b2f1d394f674d049bbcd&t=1566254&page=2 [04:02] nymphaeaceae: It's not as long as you aren't looing at it all the time [04:02] Very similar to my problem [04:02] I'm currently reading it [04:02] Taha__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [04:02] so those numbers I see next to the entries are the inodes? [04:03] Daskreech: Is there any way I can uninstall fglrx without accessing Ubuntu's gui? [04:03] Taha__: certainly [04:03] Forgive me for my linux-noobiness, but this is my second time installing Ubuntu [04:03] nymphaeaceae: Yes [04:03] Is it something like: [04:03] apt-get remove fglrx? [04:03] hence when fixing it saying inode 40963 has a wrong size [04:03] sudo apt-get remove fglrx? [04:04] If you installed it with apt-get then yes [04:04] How do I know what to write after remove? [04:04] oh I see... the things I learn from you guys! [04:04] I believe it's called the package name? [04:04] How do I list all packages? [04:04] apt-get list? [04:04] And if I uninstall fglrx, do you think I'll be able to revert to the system drivers? [04:05] nymphaeaceae: so fsck goes to the inode level then it replays what has happened with the files (there is a note made for all changes to any inode) and compares with what the actual inode says happned [04:05] Taha__: apt-cache search nvidia [04:05] Actually, I'm using an ati 5770 [04:05] Taha__: Yes you will if you uninstall it [04:05] >_< [04:05] I'll just replace nvidia with ati [04:05] Taha__: I can see that not working :) [04:06] Dang [04:06] .... that is... stupidly smart! and such a simple command behind it too.. though they should change the command word for it.. [04:06] I wish I can dump the logs or something [04:06] nymphaeaceae: Why? [04:06] filesystemcheck is too long [04:06] fsck is just about right [04:06] brb. going to restart & attempt again [04:06] Taha__: Yo ucan dump the logs [04:07] Does it automatically dump? [04:07] but fsck.... is... too fscking close to other words XD [04:07] Or do I manually do it? [04:07] I don't know which logs are you looking for? [04:07] Well, the screen logs [04:07] I get an error in white text on the screen [04:07] In command [04:07] Is there any way I can dump that text? [04:07] but then again, you tend to only think of fscking when your system is fscked.. [04:07] If it's automatic, then I can just fetch it right now from Windows [04:08] ok [04:08] umm [04:08] brb [04:08] nymphaeaceae: good point [04:08] nymphaeaceae: who | grep -i blondie | talk; gawk; nice; date; cd ~; wine; talk; grep; touch; unzip; touch; strip; gasp; finger; gasp; mount; fsck; more; yes; fsck; gasp; umount; make clean; make mrproper; sleep [04:08] Taha__: try /var/log/system.log [04:09] .... [04:09] I think I am in love... [04:09] too bad [04:09] love: command not found [04:10] heh [04:10] hehehe [04:10] hah that's pretty good [04:10] well.. I promise to name my next fish after you, Daskreech... *hugs warmly* [04:11] * Daskreech hugs nymphaeaceae [04:11] haha [04:11] bettas kinda look like me too [04:11] largely flamboyant [04:11] hehehe [04:11] thanks for the help... and... wel.. [04:11] the fscking ? [04:12] well the fscking lesson [04:12] I kinda just was there during the fscking [04:12] I hope I never have to see you here again, but if I have to be here... I wouldn't have anyone help with fscking other than you [04:12] \o/ [04:12] yes;yes;yes [04:12] hehehe [04:13] you take care ^_^ [04:13] You too [04:23] Help! I tried adjusting the min/max width of the bottom taskbar panel and now plasma-desktop is unresponsive and i have to force close it thouugh task manager. How can I reset whatever I did back to spec? I can access dolphin and all programs through Krunner. [04:23] The right side of the bottom taskbar panel just flickers and I cannot right click it to get to the settings to change it back. [04:23] elijah: open konsole [04:24] A restart did not resolve it [04:24] k [04:24] mkdir plasmabkp [04:25] k [04:25] kquitapp plasma-desktop && sleep 10 && mv ~/.kde/share/config/plasma* ~/plasmabkp && plasma-desktop [04:25] it was already quit [04:25] should i start it again? [04:26] Nope [04:26] just take off the kquitapp and sleep sections [04:27] so just mv and after? [04:29] i have files in my backup folder now [04:34] Daskreech: Nice! [04:34] elijah: :) [04:34] K, it recreated, thanks soo much! [04:34] elijah: nice eh? [04:35] Daskreech: Beats reinstalling Kubuntu! :) [04:35] doesn't it? :0 [04:35] Linux is incredibly resiliant [04:35] (though a number of times it doesn't beat a reinstall) [04:36] Daskreech: Yeah, I can see that [04:36] happening [04:37] btw, I got close with fsuck last night [04:38] It mounted one partition but not the other [04:38] maybe tomorrow I will try again [04:38] Nite! [04:39] night [04:50] can anybody think of a program that will let you mess with programs that launch on startup? [05:02] dan_l: what are you trying to do? [05:03] james147: get googsystray to run at boot [05:03] I can set it in the programs preferences [05:03] but I think it needs sudo? [05:04] dan_l: then system settings > advanced > autostart (for kde 4.4) [05:04] I tried it. Googsystray just crashes on startup [05:04] dan_l: does it launch manually? [05:05] yup [05:05] I just launched it now [05:05] manually [05:05] but on start up [05:06] it just throws an error message [05:06] dan_l: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [05:06] (as a user? (ie not as root?) [05:06] As a user. I just run it from cri [05:06] hmm [05:06] errr----you know. the launcher thingamabob keystroke thingy [05:06] what error does it give? [05:08] You know, I'm not sure? It's a massive window. It won't fit on the single monitor. [05:08] it points to a couple of files and says bad permissions. It points to the actual googsystray file too [05:11] hmm, how did you install it? [05:18] Is there a way to bind super + my function sleep (f5) key to sleep the computer? [05:18] super + f5 = sleep [05:18] easily? [05:19] james147: it's not in the installer. I downloaded and followed the instructions. [05:20] Elijah: try your keystroke launcher and type 'sleep' [05:22] dan_l: downloaded from where? [05:22] james147: sourceforge (http://googsystray.sourceforge.net/) [05:36] dan_l: not sure why it wont auto launch sorry, [05:38] james147: quite all right. I appreciate it. [05:38] I really think it's a permissions issue [05:40] dan_l: most likly :) but I am to tired to figure out what it wonts :)... if your just intrested in the gmail part you could try the gmail widget (http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/gmail-plasmoid?content=101229) [05:42] NOOOOO I NEED MY GCALS AND GVOICE AND GREAD AND GDOCS [05:43] I'm totally google addicted. If kontact would play nice w/ everything but voice, I could deal with it [05:43] dan_l: what version of kde are you using? [05:44] errr---the one that comes stock w/ 10.04. is that 4p4? [05:44] 4.4.2 is the default [05:44] that's it then. I just installed this the other day. [05:45] dan_l: hmm, last I tryed I managed to get contacts working with akonadi... [05:45] It worked pretty well? [05:45] I had all sorts of problems with mails being read and unread [05:45] i got a list of contacts up :) didnt really try much else though (dont use the PIM stuff yet) [05:46] dan_l: :S [05:46] hello, hello, is there anyway I can change the icons in the system tray? [05:46] havnt tryed syncing gmail yet, [05:46] tweakedeh: what kde version?# [05:46] james147: maybe I'll try it this weekend and let you know what I find. [05:47] James147: im on kde 10.4 [05:47] dan_l: note that upgrading to 4.5.1 might help [05:47] that sounds scary. [05:47] tweakedeh: heh, i am only on kde 4.5 :) , you mean kubuntu 10.04? [05:48] Did I mention this was the worst linux install I had since gutsy? [05:48] James147: lol yes [05:48] dan_l: really why? [05:48] I remember my gutsy install. 5 days to solve the broadcom wifi problem. Ironically, just today they open sourced those drivers. [05:48] James147: I'm not sure how to tell but I think its 4 [05:48] Err this one went bad due to partitioning. [05:49] Previously, it was just "largest continuous free space". That option is gone. So I had to manually do the parts which had some bad results [05:49] tweakedeh: my guess is 4.4 :) ... hmm, they the mono chrome icons? or the default oxygen ones? [05:50] dan_l: :S I tend to always to manual partitioning [05:50] James: you are bolder than I. I'm not real computer smart. [05:50] James147: default.. but I have PulseAudio Applet in my system tray and it looks like a ? I just want to add my own [05:50] * James147 cant remember when they started using the monochrome icons for systray :S [05:50] I mean I'm a strong user. But that paritioning stuff really pushes my buttons. [05:52] tweakedeh: ahh... well, most applications get their icons from the icon theme, so you should beable to add it to that to get it to show (although I dont know the naming scheme verywell...) [05:53] James147: oh, I see, I'll keep trying, thanks =] [05:54] is there a kde themed databasey program? [05:54] dan_l: like microsoft access? [05:54] more like sql community or firebird. [05:55] Access doesn't do it for me (though I have it running in my vbox) [05:55] I'm running dummy data right now, as it were. [05:55] dan_l: well, a microsoft alt is in koffice, not sure about the others thoug [05:56] koffice work with .docx files? === krawek is now known as Guest41739 === Guest41739 is now known as krwk [05:57] tweakedeh: I'm not sure on that. I know it will work with OOO [05:57] but koffice is actually pretty nice. Kspread ain't half bad. And I'm a spreadsheet gangster. [05:58] tweakedeh: it should do [05:58] I'm like spreadsheet elite [05:59] * James147 is anoyed at all spreadsheet programs... they all look horrible on a dark theme :( [05:59] James147: well Open Office can read them it's just the format is all messed up. I just thought there might be a easy want to convert it or read it [05:59] James: try changing the sheets color to a grey and dumping the gridlines. You don't need them anyhow. [06:00] * dan_l runs grey all the time [06:00] * dan_l sometimes does white on blue too [06:01] dan_l: think i tryed that.... but I hate setting it up every time I want to use it.... (well, at least I seem to since I dont use it often and seem to randomly delete the configs more often :D ) [06:01] with ooo, kspread, or excel? [06:02] dan_l: but at least koffice is consistent... OOo likes to use the window theme for the back ground (dark) with its own choise of font (black).... [06:03] * James147 dosnt use excel on linux... so no theme problems there as windows cannot have proper themes... [06:03] and I get the color problems with both kspread and oo [06:03] Windows, you should be on linux full time =\ [06:04] tweakedeh: I use windows for gaming :) otherwise I am on linux [06:04] tweakedeh: (^^ which means I dont use excel at all really :) ) [06:05] lol, I gave up the games when I start college, way to much homework.. [06:05] I run a windoze vbox for my excel habit:) [06:05] I like to play them occasionally :) [06:06] I left the win7 partition up on this machine so I can play the occasional game. The wife let's me play exactly 2 games a year. When work gets less busy, I'll finish splinter cell conviction [06:06] vbox is horrable for games, I have a startcraft 2 trial I dont know what to do with. [06:07] tweakedeh: thats mostly because vbox dosnt really do 3d (or at lesat very well) [06:08] James147, yea, it also doesn't let me install mac os x to try out =[ [06:08] ohhh you can't game on vbox at all [06:09] you'd have a better chance doing it with....uh WINE [06:09] dan_l: lies... pacman works wondefully :D [06:09] lmao, WINE doesn't work that well either. [06:09] Well it 'works' it just requires you to be uber. [06:09] tweakedeh: wine dosnt work too badly, have managed to get portal and left 4 dead[2] working under it quite well [06:10] (only minor drop in preformance) [06:10] wow, I haven't tried to do much on it, Just generally didn't work for me. [06:10] (without doing much but installing it...) [06:10] MS office 2007 work on WINE? [06:11] tweakedeh: depends on what your trying to isntall... [06:11] tweakedeh: I think they got it working.. [06:11] James147, Nice, then I can kill the vbox [06:11] ummmm..... [06:11] depends on what you're trying to do:) [06:12] most of your addons won't work that well [06:12] lol, I just want to type and save it, maybe the odd print. [06:12] you'll have font problems at some point. [06:12] ohh yeah you'll be fine. [06:13] awesome [06:14] http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=12812 at least excel seems to work resonably [06:15] all I really need it word, excel should look the same in OOO [06:16] http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=12811 ..not as highly rated, but works [06:16] * James147 tends to prefure latex over word though :D [06:18] * dan_l thinks james147 is a masochist after that. === chucho is now known as chucho_ === chucho_ is now known as chucho [06:18] dan_l: why so? [06:18] wo dll overrides? [06:18] Two* [06:19] latex isn't easy. [06:19] dan_l: it aint that hard :) just need a reference to look at now and then :) late-suite on vim makes it much easier :D [06:20] I use a text editor to write often [06:20] dan_l: and it create much more professional documetns without actually changing the defaukts much [06:20] (or at all) [06:22] I don't do much formatting even at my best [06:22] a good table of contents is all [06:23] dan_l: \tableofcontents is all i do to get that :D [06:23] (well, that and wun pdflatex twice... well vim runs it twice for me altumatically) [07:23] hi, I'm trying to use dolphin to browse windows shares, on windows nide windows pops up asking for username and password but in dolphin I click the computer and empty folder shows up [07:23] without any password dialog [07:24] is there a way to enter username and password to being able to see the folders? [07:49] Is there any way I can remove an app from the applications menu? === jan is now known as Guest74027 === ping__luce is now known as faLUCE [08:56] hi [08:58] I have one problem that can't seems to be solved by a simple google search : I just can't see thumbnails in dolphin (icon view). I checked the type the thumbnails and set the size of file to 20 mb, that would normally suffice isn't ? still no thumbnails... [09:05] AciD: what file types? [09:05] all [09:05] even images [09:08] even wierder : in icon view, if I have some folders with pictures in them, I just see normal folder icon, but if i hover my mouse over them, I can see the thumbnails on top of the folder icon, in the information pane... [09:21] nevermind [09:21] I just found the solution on gg [09:22] it seems previews aren't automatically done by dolphin, you must select view>previews to display them [09:23] :o [09:23] it's auto now, thanks for your help :) === Mamarok_ is now known as Mamarok [09:42] I need som help [09:42] When I open kwrite there are no longer any formatting tools [09:42] The whole panel is gone [09:42] How do I get it back? [09:48] emas: emas settings krite i guess [09:49] I found nothing about it there [09:54] Oh, sorrys [09:54] I mixed up kwrite and kword [09:54] No problems then :) === anirudh is now known as an1 [10:23] hello everyone [10:24] i swaped my soundcard to another pci slot and now the sound is not working. in the phonon setting, i see my sound card is disabled [10:25] i am using creative sb live 24bit ie ca0106 [10:25] any help [10:50] hi all [10:51] i'm new to Kubuntu (i've used ubuntu), where is the synaptic package manager? [10:54] hi all ppl, i'm new to kubuntu (i've used ubuntu), where is the synaptic or equivalent graphical package interface? === ipunk is now known as Kills [10:55] hi [10:56] erupter___: kpackagekit [10:56] an1 and where is it? [10:57] an1 i tried lunching synaptic for the terminal but it stays in text mode (i believe because i don't have gnome) [10:57] just search for it. type "package" in search on application launcher. its in launcher->computer [10:58] an1 oh this, i've found it but it does not find all the packages that synaptic finds on ubuntu [10:58] try downloading synaptic [10:59] erupter___: alternatively use filters [11:00] filter it to search only for installed packages [11:03] whoa [11:03] ugly but working... [11:06] i know its not that elegant [11:06] yes [11:07] do you know the gdk libs? [11:07] f**k... i think i made a big mistake... great... [11:08] no [11:32] is the netbook editon wubi compadible? [11:36] while copying from hard drive to harddrive i am getting only 3 MB/s , the mount.ntfs-3g is using cpu very much. [11:36] that is [11:36] ntfs is slower than ext4 [11:37] i know that, but for some files the data transfer rate drops from 27 MB/s to 3 MB/s [11:44] Mamarok: ^^ [11:48] jussi: thank you very much :) [12:01] yeah one thing great about installing from the 10.04 instead of trying to upgrade from 8.10 is i have the ext4 now [12:26] /dev/sda7 321G 309G 0 100% /x [12:27] how do i connect to wireless network, ive created and added a wireless network, filled in all the info, but i cant find out how to actually connect to it [12:29] \list [12:31] !list | Brama [12:31] Brama: This is not a file sharing channel (or network); be sure to read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot » [12:35] Hi! I have a problem, i cannot send/receive mails but i do not get any errors. The mail server runs on debian, connection via imap and it runs at least since one year without a problem, can somebody help me please? [12:35] hi [12:35] im volkan [12:36] which mail server u r tryin to connect [12:36] kolab [12:40] deluxe - check settings for ur accounts [12:41] they are correct [12:41] wat abt ports [12:42] are open [12:43] i didn`t change anything [12:43] and i don`t really know where to search for errors, in /var/log/mail.* there is nothing to find :( [12:44] arrgh i will explain it better: in the logs i see incoming mails [12:44] and i see that they are passed [12:44] but the do not reach the client [12:45] *they [12:45] i think ur ports are blocked by firewall [12:46] check firewall is not blocking anyports [12:49] i didn`t change anything in the firewall but i will look it up [12:49] i wud suggest try reinstalling latest version of this app [12:50] what app do you mean? [12:53] do you mean a software firewall? i have no software firewall installed on the clients [12:54] the network configuration tool doesnt work at all, i fill in my wireless network settings, and even though i select WPA in the settings it says 'insecure' in the list, furthermore there is no button to actually try connecting to it, [13:09] and how do i run firefox? whenever i run it, it gives me a button 'install', and i click that and it gives an error saying its already installed, i get no further than this [13:09] this is a fresh install even damn kunbuntu lucid is heavily broken :s === kiry_jobintervie is now known as kiry [13:24] I just tried out plasma-widget-menubar, but it seems it does not work for me. It only shows File -> Close no matter which app I open. Anybody knows the trick to get it to work with KDE 4.5.1 in Lucid? [13:35] skramer_: is it a recent widget? Not sure... === jtheuer is now known as jt|away [13:38] Mamarok: http://agateau.wordpress.com/2010/05/10/getting-menus-out-of-application-windows/ I installed it from the Unity PPA === jt|away is now known as jtheuer [13:39] * Mamarok reads [13:41] skramer_: did you install the Qt patch? You should read the blog entry again... [13:43] it is a proof-of-concept, not really usable as of now [13:47] Mamarok: seems like I don't have the patch, probably because I have Qt 4.7 rc1 but the patch is against Qt 4.7 beta1 [13:48] skramer_: nope, then it should be in the RC1 already [13:48] but you didn't read that blog entry, it is by no means a usable widget right now === jtheuer is now known as jt|away [13:49] by that time, it was not. but tut they are going to include it in Maverick: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopExperienceTeam/ApplicationMenu so I thought it might be usable already ;-) [14:12] Hi folks [14:14] hey how do I set grub.cfg to boot windows 7? [14:29] Hi, does anybody know how to make KDE use MB instead of MiB [14:33] guys suggest a good dj software.. like virtual dj [14:34] how to i net get tearing in video? === jt|away is now known as jtheuer [14:34] who do i remove tearing [14:35] nvidia [14:35] Mamarok: I installed the Maverick which has libjson0 as dependency. Made the Menubar widget work as expected, but seems to break Lucid's Kopete / Kontact :-( [14:35] so I'll have to wait for Maverick to have everything working properly [14:38] how can i playback with kde effects and no tearing ? [14:38] it tears when switching to desktop effect === schafha is now known as flobian === krawek is now known as Guest2316 === Guest2316 is now known as krwk === jsoko is now known as jensoko [15:36] Hello...I'm trying to download skype and have failed at it via the repository and the web. I'm trying for the 64-bit version of the most recent beta. Any help is appreciated. [15:47] Hello All! [15:48] I've got a quick and easy question about Kubuntu installation. Is this a good place to ask? [15:49] hello? [15:56] boa tarde [15:57] kubuntu-br [15:57] #ubuntu-br [15:57] #kubuntu-br === khyron_ is now known as linuxFX [15:59] * Synjunitzu screams for help [16:00] how do I get flash on kubuntu :( /me googles [16:01] !info kubuntu-restricted-extras [16:01] kubuntu-restricted-extras (source: ubuntu-restricted-extras): Commonly used restricted packages for Kubuntu. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 39 (lucid), package size 5 kB, installed size 32 kB === apparle_ is now known as apparle [16:02] !info HELP! [16:02] Package HELP does not exist in lucid [16:02] !flash [16:02] To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - See also !Restricted and !Gnash [16:02] * Synjunitzu cries [16:02] okay [16:02] !restricted | Synjunitzu [16:02] Synjunitzu: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats [16:03] !Gnash [16:03] An open source flash replacement. It is still beta software. For current status or for more info http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/ [16:03] is there any place I can download a package for Skype? Repository can't connect [16:03] !skype [16:03] To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto - Please use open protocols instead if you can, see !Ekiga [16:03] someone tell me how to install git pls.. [16:03] git-core [16:04] because i AM trying :/ [16:04] !ekiga [16:04] ekiga is an Internet telephony application included with Ubuntu, which supports the SIP and H323 protocols. Information and help at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ekiga [16:04] jensoko: from the skype website [16:04] downloaded it and I havent a clue what to do [16:05] avihay: I get an error that says "/tmp/S06o7mUO.bin.part could not be saved, because the source file could not be read. " [16:05] Synjunitzu: there's a git-core package in the repositories. you can instal it from a package manager [16:05] i tried sudo apt-get git-core [16:05] and? [16:05] :/ [16:05] let me get the message for yu [16:06] avihay, sudo apt-get install git-core [16:06] yeah that one [16:06] E: Couldn't find package git-core [16:07] where am i going wrong [16:07] try to run sudo apt-get update first [16:07] okay [16:08] Woah! [16:08] okay cool [16:08] !info git-core [16:08] * Synjunitzu waits [16:08] git-core (source: git-core): fast, scalable, distributed revision control system. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.7.0.4-1 (lucid), package size 5490 kB, installed size 11376 kB [16:09] BluesKaj: "In component main" means everyone has it with the deafulr repositories.list, right? [16:09] Synjunitzu, open your package manager and enable the canonical partner repositories, ans also the the "other sioftware sources" reositories, then sudo apt-get update. [16:10] Synjunitzu, then you'l ahve access to most apps available [16:10] how do I cancel an update? [16:10] don't [16:10] already did [16:10] :/ [16:11] close your package manager Synjunitzu , thenupdate again [16:11] okay [16:11] yur talking about KPackageKit right? [16:11] yup, whatever one you use [16:12] okay [16:12] just the defaults right now.. just installed Kubuntu [16:12] 1st intro to linux [16:14] Synjunitzu,did you enable the repositories I posted ? [16:14] enabled [16:15] when I closed the config it immediately started Downloading additional package files. [16:16] Synjunitzu, ok , now open a terminal/konsole , type: sudo apt-get update [16:16] just waiting for it to finish 1st [16:16] it's not down loading it's just updating your available sources [16:17] oh? then howcome its got a download speed at the speed of my internet connection showing? [16:17] it's upgrading your existing applications [16:17] Synjunitzu, welcome to kubuntu--you'll get the hang of it in no time! :) Thx for help gang! [16:18] lol tnx [16:18] File 48 of 63 at 52.4kB/s [16:18] ? [16:19] upgrading the installed apps , bringing them up to date , since the install cd was created [16:19] okay cool [16:19] so.. [16:19] Terminal [16:19] sudo apt-get update [16:19] ? [16:20] finished? [16:20] running [16:21] let it finish , then sudo apt-get upgrade [16:21] okay [16:21] how can i install opengl libraries ? [16:22] is the netbook editon wubi compadible? [16:24] N|ghtWo|f, they should be installed by default [16:24] how do I pause the upgrade? [16:25] N|ghtWo|f: you men for development / programming [16:25] sabgenton, is it listed in available OSs on wubi ? [16:25] hello everyone, i am looking for help with, -> http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3113614.0 [16:25] avihay: trying to compile opencascade. but it say cant find opengl [16:25] Synjunitzu, just let it run in the background [16:26] I have to pause to allow for extra bandwidth.. :/ [16:26] not my internet [16:26] BluesKaj: the website didn't look conclusive [16:26] did say kubuntu though [16:27] Why dows *ubuntu come with old nvidia drivers? And where can i find easy to install new drivers === toby is now known as Guest48501 [16:28] sabgenton,http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu [16:28] you need libgl-dev N|ghtWo|f [16:29] Badegakk, open system/hardware drivers , choose the recomended driver and install === Guest48501 is now known as cookie [16:29] huh? [16:29] I don't want ubuntu [16:29] I want kubuntu netbook edition [16:30] runing from a wubi install [16:30] doesnt Kubuntu normal edition work for netbooks too? im running it on a netbook [16:30] BluesKaj, The driver they recomend are pretty old drivers compared what is availble on nvidia.com [16:30] sabgenton, it's the same , just different desktops , if ubuntu works then kubuntu is designed to do so as well [16:30] eck got kicked [16:31] Badegakk, yes and the the proprietary drivers may be unstable on lucid, but that's your choice [16:32] how do you get a list of channels using quassel? [16:32] sabgenton, it's the same , just different desktops , if ubuntu works then kubuntu is designed to do so as well [16:32] !list in the server box , erigais ? [16:32] Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [16:33] but sometimes the netbook edition of ubuntu is diferent [16:33] like it used to come as .img not a .iso [16:33] ah ok, i was just curious [16:33] sabgenton, is there a netbook chat? [16:33] BluesKaj: did that webpage say someware that the ubuntu netbook edition works with wubi? [16:34] don't think so [16:34] the topic of this chanel has netbook in it [16:34] sabgenton, do some research on the net , maybe the forums might have something [16:35] yep [16:35] just seeing if anybody new [16:35] mis as well try it [16:35] sabgenton, but this isn't a wubi support channel as such [16:36] but wubi is offically supported [16:36] thats a hard call [16:36] is this a support channel? or just general kubuntu users? [16:36] /join #wubi [16:36] ok fair call [16:36] erigais, it's asupport channel [16:36] i've been trying to get internal mic to work and i've been failing [16:37] er ok you should check if chanels exist befor you post them [16:37] im starting to think, that, internal mics and *ubuntus just dont go together. [16:37] erigais, did you check alsamixer in the terminal? [16:37] yes [16:37] its not even listed in there [16:37] no capture or anything [16:38] i see a micboost and i tried turning it up but no go [16:38] does alsamixer show your soundcard , erigais ? [16:39] erigais: internal mics do work (no saying your's will) [16:39] yeah it does [16:39] i got sound working with asla and all, just stuck on this damn mic problem [16:39] I mean ubuntu does have suport for interal mics [16:39] mine works [16:39] not muted with an M in the box I hope [16:39] keeping me from using skype [16:39] nah its not muted, i cant even find it in anymixers [16:40] kmix or alsamix [16:40] erigais, running pulseaudio ? [16:41] no [16:41] erigais, which soundcard ? [16:42] intel a269 [16:42] im using a laptop [16:42] !intelhda [16:42] For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto [16:42] I have a similar card on my laptop [16:45] i think this was the page i used to get my sound working buy my mic is being lame [16:45] do usb mics work with kubuntu? === yofel_ is now known as yofel [17:01] using drivers from the realtek site [17:01] hope this works === jeremy is now known as jolrael === pixel__ is now known as JarhK [17:13] if my capture bar in aslamix says ----- does that means it doesnt find anything? [17:16] hah cool, i fixed it [17:17] erigais: I have an internal mic, using kmix, I can make it to work, it requiters a lot of messing around (Intel sound card) and it has a noise reduction feature that isn't supported by the Linux driver, apparently, that causes it to have a constant DC voltage that makes it's sound quality rather low [17:18] im not sure what i did to fix it, but i got the drivers from the realtek site, and rebooted and it seemed to start working [17:20] damn im so happy right now [17:21] get the mic to work, erigais ? [17:21] yep yep [17:22] ty you all for the help [17:22] hi guys! is there a way of downloading an entire email box including folders structure using kontact / kmail (or anything else)? [17:22] I was gone for a few , ..what did you do to fix it so I know whan someone else has that prob, erigais? [17:22] i went to the realtek site and got their linux drivers [17:23] erigais, that helps :) [17:24] yeah it does, i wish i did that first it was alot easier then doing the alsa drivers [17:24] who's having mic issues? [17:24] i was, but i fixed it :D [17:25] good i just went through a whole ordeal with mine [17:25] lol yeah, only took me about 3 days XD [17:25] erigais, i assumed the default drivers would work , but with intel one b=never knows === Freejack is now known as Freejack` [17:26] yeah the default ones worked sound and everything, just no internal mic, i didnt have a mic to test my mic jack [17:26] erigais: http://illunatic.greenpirate.org/mic-doesnt-work-on-kubuntu-10-04-inspiron-1501-fix/ [17:29] is "module" pretty much a generic term for many different things? [17:29] damn im so happpy i got this working... now with skype working it might be a real long time before booting into windows [17:30] if you really want to figure out how to get your system working well with kubuntu, just install it over windows xD [17:31] lol [17:31] yeah, i bet! [17:31] i recommend an externall HDD to save anything important and being prepared to reinstall when things get fubar and you are jsut at a loss [17:31] i might now tho actually [17:31] i dont really have nothing important, i just wont be able to replace my windows 7 [17:31] you don't have the registration key? [17:32] i got all the software i normally use working on kubuntu [17:32] nah it came preloaded on my laptop, i can probably recovery partition it back [17:32] -if- i wanted it back [17:32] it should still have a key afaik [17:32] windows 7 really pisses me off tho, i really hate it, which is why i installed kubuntu in the first place [17:32] erigais: the key should come attached to you computer... [17:33] erigais, install it as dualboot [17:33] http://pcsupport.about.com/od/osproductkeys/f/windows-7-serial-key.htm [17:33] yeah i got it dualboot atm [17:33] (normally on a sticker) [17:33] ah yeah, on a sticker on the bottom [17:33] yeah it usually is on the machine. usually in back for desktops i think [17:34] or the bottom of laptops [17:34] but if it makes you feel better, i've never installed windows 7 and i'm doing fine :D [17:34] (managed to remove his xp one without ripping it off his netbook :D [17:35] sweet mine is still there [17:35] ^^ personally I like win 7 better then xp... (and vista), its allot more stable on my computer... well after I removed all the anoying stuff from it that is :) [17:35] crap it's a vista key [17:35] useless [17:35] getting everything to work with kubuntu has been really tough, but, to be honest it was also easier then i expected [17:35] especially compared to the last version of linux i used... slackware ; ; [17:36] :) [17:37] I'm disappointed in kubuntu support for ati onboard graphics , the last LTS 8.10 had great support for them ...beginning to think it might be a better OS fro this older pc [17:38] BluesKaj: yeah, I am suprised at some of the driver choises they made in lucid...the default nvidia ones dont work with some mobile cards [17:39] as well ^^ [17:39] i used a cracked version of xp for a couple years [17:39] i actually moved to kubuntu because i wanted something more secure [17:40] my ati drivers were really tough to get working in ubuntu, but for some reason in kubuntu it was really easy, they autodetected and installed no problem [17:41] I just wanted something that I didnt have to pay stupid amounts to get basic functionality (office, anti virus etc...) [17:41] James147, the thing that's bothersome to me is that W7 runs great on this pc [17:41] i was really scared cuz everywhere i was reading people were talkin about how crap ati was for getting to work [17:42] BluesKaj: yeah, but they dont have the restriction of having to pack only opensource stuff on their installer [17:42] I upped my RAM to 2G , and that made a significant diff [17:43] I am tempted to up my netbook to 2gig as well... (all my other comps have that) [17:43] yeah it took too much time to find and configure pirated software for basic day to day stuff [17:43] * James147 notes that we should probally more to #kubuntu-offtopic [17:43] yeah ,ms can write proper drivers [17:43] and ppl pay for that [17:45] anyone know how I can get multimonitor support? [17:45] Synjunitzu: for what graphics card/driver? [17:46] um not sure. let me check [17:46] lol k ... how do i do dxdiag in kubuntu lol [17:46] .. [17:47] Synjunitzu: :) run this: "lspci | grep VGA" [17:48] okay [17:48] 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GME Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03) [17:49] Synjunitzu: hmm, should be able to configure that one through the system settings [17:49] i tried. [17:49] it gives me this msg [17:49] .. [17:50] This module is only for configuring systems with a single desktop spread across multiple monitors. You do not appear to have this configuration. [17:50] restricted to vga output , Synjunitzu [17:50] como usar netcat [17:51] :/ ive got a monitor attached to my netbook. [17:51] Synjunitzu: not on that page, on the "size and orientation" page [17:51] oh? [17:51] looking [17:52] Synjunitzu: that age is for drivers that configure both screens to behave like one big desktop (kde needs to then split oit back up... which is what that dialog is for) [17:52] that page ^^ [17:52] Hi guys, does anybody know, what happened if i have only "other" option in add network printer window? previously i've had couple printers added there without any problems [17:52] i run kubuntu 10.04 [17:52] (like nvidias twinview mode, the intel ones dont do that as far as I know)) [18:04] it keeps reseting kubuntu [18:04] whenever i make the change [18:06] Synjunitzu: hmm, try running krandrtray... [18:06] (isnt sure if that helped or not..) [18:07] okay [18:07] This is, how my printing options look like: http://i.imgur.com/DdP1w.png http://i.imgur.com/fmGGO.png [18:08] do you know, what can i do with that? the "smb" printer option is missing ... [18:10] hi channel === rackIT is now known as rackIT_AFK [18:19] ok so I've done the sudo apt-get upgrade now. [18:19] what next? [18:19] lol [18:24] Synjunitzu: its normally best to run: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" << the first command makes sure that you get the latest versions in the repos (as it refreshs the packagelist) [18:24] Synjunitzu: and for the "what next?" that depends on what you want/need to do :) [18:25] running that command [18:25] Synjunitzu: its recomended to install "kubuntu-restricted-extras" if you want multimedia support for restricted formats (like mp3s) [18:25] well.. I want youtube to begin with [18:25] as well as both my monitors displaying correctly [18:25] Synjunitzu: ^^ the above should install falsh as well [18:26] okay [18:26] (if not then install "flashplugin-installer" [18:26] tnx :) [18:27] where can I find a list of all the repositories with contents [18:27] Synjunitzu: as for the resalutions, if the krandrtray dosnt restore the settings you can create a script to manually run xrandr and place it in System settings > advanced > Autostart (on kde 4.4) [18:28] no0o0 whered yu go! [18:28] lol [18:28] Synjunitzu: What do you mean all the repositories ? [18:28] well yeah [18:28] Synjunitzu: http://packages.ubuntu.com [18:29] thankyu :) [18:30] James147: My monitor resolution changes although it just suddenly resets kubuntu.. [18:32] Synjunitzu: http://maketecheasier.com/how-to-setup-dual-monitors-with-xrandr/2009/06/01 might be useful [18:33] okay ive just done the sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer and youtube still isnt working :/ ie the flash part [18:33] whats up :/ [18:33] Synjunitzu: did you restart your browser? [18:34] (or might be better, logout and back in... flash can be finiky about things...) [18:34] guys, please give me a clue, how to solve my printer problems - lack of smb option to add it: http://i.imgur.com/DdP1w.png http://i.imgur.com/fmGGO.png [18:34] it was working couple of weeks ago [18:35] working now. [18:36] Mad_Dud: you could try configuing cups directly by going to http://localhost:631/ in your browser [18:36] page empty [18:36] which daemon should be running? [18:36] cupsd ? [18:36] yeah [18:37] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEfb-I1oy40&feature=popular [18:37] lmao [18:37] !ot [18:37] #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks! [18:37] sorry lol [18:37] wont happen again :) [18:38] James147: bingo, cups wasn't running [18:38] cheers [18:40] James147: that script wont help me. since whats happening is my kubuntu is change to the correct monitor modes yes but. its reseting itself like a second after its been set. [18:40] changing* [18:41] !winamp [18:41] winamp is a windows music player. On Ubuntu you can use audacious as alternative. [18:41] ? [18:42] hmm [18:42] Synjunitzu: ^^ I like amarok better then winamp :) [18:42] (kdes default) [18:42] amarok rulez [18:43] but i still prefer vlc [18:43] :D [18:43] loading it up [18:43] * James147 hates vlc [18:43] I recommend qmmp [18:43] James147: lol [18:43] I use it with the winamp classic skin [18:43] back :D [18:43] i like winamps simplicity tho [18:43] Peace-: its always been less stable the kaffeine on my computers [18:43] skins? [18:43] qmmp? [18:43] James147: really vlc less stable than kaffeince? [18:44] http://qmmp.ylsoftware.com/index_en.php [18:44] hey James147 BluesKaj :D wtf where is eagles? [18:44] Peace-: for me it seemed to be :) [18:44] wow [18:44] v3nd3tta``: hey... he seems to be in offtopic :) [18:45] ah, didn't look so far :D [18:45] someone spammed me with my name :D [18:45] Peace-: (then again, i havent tryed it in ages) [18:45] but not here :P [18:46] gah i had vlc long time ago but i am happy now with amarok and dragon player [18:46] Synjunitzu: if you want, I can dig out where I found my skin [18:46] hi! i lost all my icons on the taskbar. How can i get them back? [18:46] please [18:46] v3nd3tta``: I prefure kaffeine for its playlists, I like to que serires when i watch tehm so I dont ahve to get up every episode [18:46] * Daskreech likes kaffeine [18:46] James147: i always used vlc [18:47] :S [18:47] idk i used vlc last before i got a backdoor trojan at win xp [18:47] but it needed long to load anything even with 4gb ram [18:47] lol [18:47] Synjunitzu: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Winamp+Classic+Skin+for+XMMS?content=78723 [18:47] really strange [18:47] looking [18:48] but what do you do with a backdoor trojan? [18:48] format him under linux :D [18:48] Synjunitzu: I dont see the point in skinning single applications... I then to just modify the theme of them all and keep a uniformed look :) [18:48] since then i did not use windows any time again (exept school where i even tried to boot from live cd kubuntu 10.04 at the release date) [18:49] but school computers suck [18:49] * James147 notes that we drifted offtopic again :) [18:49] yeah [18:49] * v3nd3tta`` hides [18:53] * avihay wonders why kubuntu dumped the feature complete kaffein in favor of a "not so nice" hackjob like dragon player [18:54] avihay: it was not feature complete [18:54] avihay: they didnt, kaffeine is still part of kde as far as I know [18:54] avihay: they just use the simple dragon as the default as thats what most people need [18:54] James147: Kubuntu and KDE are different things [18:55] Daskreech: yeah, miss read... but the point still stands [18:55] avihay was complaining about kubuntu :) [18:55] I think the answer is that kaffein was for kde3, and they wanted to move to kde4 only software, and kaffein for kde4 today is not feature complete [18:56] avihay: it is more so then dragonplayer... :) [18:56] should I sudo apt-get install firefox or get it from the website? [18:56] v3nd3tta``, eagles was here this morning , but I had to leave so we din't chat ..he's still listed in offtopic [18:57] Synjunitzu: through apt-get is usually better [18:57] okay [18:57] Synjunitzu: but using the firefox installer in the menus is best [18:57] avihay: yes that would be the answer [18:57] (it also installs support for kde) [18:57] yeah i already saw him there BluesKaj :D welcome back to idling [18:57] menu's? [18:57] true, but kaffein moved from being my default player in kubuntu with kde3 to something I don't run anymore because it just doesn't work [18:58] ahh [18:58] i c [18:58] avihay: install kaffiene It's almost back to KDE3 days except without DVB suppor [18:58] gotta go for now ...bbl [18:58] t should get it next release which might flip Kubuntu back to discuss kaffiene vs Dragon again [18:58] bye BluesKaj [19:00] OMG, kaffein really doesn't work for me (never uninstalled it) (thought it wasn't working due to my compositing manager) [19:00] audio is fine, window expands to the size of the video, no video [19:00] how do yu get info on a program through sudo apt-get ? [19:01] avihay: there is a bug in the current verion in lucid, you need to stiwch tabs to get video [19:01] Synjunitzu: no sudo. apt-get show [19:01] no drag and drop support!!! [19:01] okay [19:01] avihay: there isnt? (remembers there was) [19:01] Synjunitzu: you can sudo, of course. but root privs are not required for that. [19:02] switch tabs how? is switching to full screen enough? [19:02] cool [19:02] avihay: no, need to change to one of the tabs with a video in (playlist or tv)... its been fixed in svn [19:02] ok, I see the tabs [19:02] thanks [19:07] So James147, what do yu think I should do about my monitors? [19:07] no support for built in subtitles in mkv or ogm, can't select audio or video tracks... stuff that were a given in kaffein kde3, so, no, it has a long way to go, but still dragon player doesn't get to kaffein's knees [19:07] it changes. but it just resets kubuntu back to default after. [19:09] Synjunitzu: configure xorg and use xrandr [19:10] (which the link i sent before shows you how to) [19:10] :/ okay whats the link again sorry? [19:10] Does ubuntu require swap? [19:11] Synjunitzu: http://maketecheasier.com/how-to-setup-dual-monitors-with-xrandr/2009/06/01 [19:11] thanx James147 :) [19:11] KittyBoots: that depends on your computer and what you want to do [19:11] KittyBoots: linux does not require swap per se. [19:12] What is the appropriate terminal command to display system memory? [19:12] KittyBoots: free [19:13] or "free -m" to make it easier to read :) [19:13] How much memory and swap is optimum for ubuntu 10.04? [19:13] KittyBoots: depends on your computer [19:14] avihay: Dragon player was never intended to [19:14] KittyBoots: ^^ I would recomend 1 gig or more ram, but thats not the minimum requirement [19:15] KittyBoots: it should be able to run with 512, or even 256 (although its not recomended to use it on 256, you would get horrible preformance) [19:15] KittyBoots: Depends on what you are doing with it [19:16] What is the command to display my prossessor stats? [19:16] 256 is a low minimum but I wouldn't call that "using" it [19:16] ^^ but yes, it entirly depends on what you want to do with it :) [19:16] cpu usage or cpu capabilitys? [19:16] I run kdesudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf and im definitely not getting what theyre talking about [19:16] KittyBoots: sudo lshw -c CPU === fx is now known as Guest48470 [19:17] Daskreech; I am building a media editing machine and trying to do my best to ensure that it is as optimum as I can make it. [19:18] I am trying ArtistX [19:18] KittyBoots: ah well then assuming you will do video at some point as much RAM as you can throw at it [19:18] Daskreech; for now I am just working with what I've got and that's 875mb. [19:19] that's more than I has [19:19] had [19:19] with swap it should be more then fine [19:20] avihay; how much swap would be optimum? [19:20] i have manged to fix the sudo issue, i have one question. Is it posible to watch video from a share using the network from the tab in dolphin. I can browse folders and copy and move files but i cant watch them, neither in vlc or dragon player. Do i realy have to use client like smb4k? [19:20] "they say" somewhere between 1.5 and 2.5 of your ram size [19:21] hi could anyone give me a link to a description to configure wine for starcraft 2 [19:21] is kubuntu resetting; a normal thing after setting up different monitors? [19:21] KittyBoots: how much ram do you have? (sorry droped out fir abit :) ) [19:21] I use 2 x the ram size for my swap, never had any issue [19:21] !appdb | Hoschi [19:21] Hoschi: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help [19:22] Badegakk: 2x ram isnt always needed, espically for larger ammounts (when swap isent needed at all unless you want to hybernate) [19:22] thank you [19:22] James147; 875mb [19:23] KittyBoots: then 1 gig of swap should be enough :) [19:23] James147; cool thanks! [19:23] KittyBoots: The rule of thumb is about 2X your RAM till you hit 1GB of ram then 1-1.5 GB should be fine [19:24] :( [19:24] 2 monitors [19:26] What is the optimum placement of the swap, before or after root partition? [19:26] James147, true, it almost never in use my swap partion. But harddrive space is not an issue on mu setup [19:26] KittyBoots: you wont notice much difference [19:26] KittyBoots: I don't think you need to tune it that much [19:27] Sure, does it ever make a difference? [19:27] KittyBoots: note also that you can create swap files instead of partitions, doing so allows you to easaly resize your swap space without repartitioning [19:27] It does but you are talking milliseconds of difference [19:27] theoretically before, but then you have to allocate a tiny partition for the boot-loader [19:27] And are there any commands to display disk stats? [19:27] unless you are contstantly swapping and have time cruicial processes waiting on it then you'll never see a difference [19:28] KittyBoots: Lots of commands for disk stats [19:28] Daskreech: and if you do, then getting more ram is the better option :) [19:28] James147; That's interesting, how do I do that? [19:28] basically use dd to create a file of the size you want, then formate that file as swap :) [19:29] James147: maybe [19:29] anyone who manage to make smb4k work under kubunt 10.04 or 10.10? [19:29] there are many guides online as to how to do it [19:29] Badegakk: Think I tryed it once, and it worked as expected... [19:29] James147; Sure, what is dd? [19:30] KittyBoots: diskduplicator [19:30] it copies something bit for bit somewhere else [19:30] James147, do mount your shares in fstab or do you use another client to watch video files from a share? [19:30] I'll have to check on this. [19:30] KittyBoots: a command for copying data at the disk level [19:31] Thanks a lot for the help. [19:31] KittyBoots: but since linux uses files to represent devices, dd (and mkfs.swap, or any other disk util) also work on files :D [19:31] Badegakk, just use networking in dolphin using "add network folder" which lists several oprions dependeing on the pcs to which you want to connect [19:32] KittyBoots: this might be of intrest: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq [19:34] KittyBoots: spicifically, for creating a swap file: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq#How%20do%20I%20add%20more%20swap? [19:36] BluesKaj, is micrsoft windows network drive for windows shares? [19:37] Badegakk, yes [19:37] Badegakk, of course the share will need a user and password [19:38] James147; this is great, much more orderly and flexible than manipulating partitions. [19:39] BluesKaj, i can see all my content, copy and move, but not watch [19:40] BluesKaj, i dont think dolphin supports watching large video files [19:41] Badegakk: dolphin dosnt support watching videos :) thats dragon players job [19:41] Badegakk: and you can watch videos over smb shares [19:41] (well, i can do it... no clue how I configued it to though) [19:42] James147, not trough dolphin, if mount the share trough fstab or smb4k i can [19:42] ok i know what the problem is now. when I try set my netbooks display resolution to 1024*900 it resets. anyone know how to get past this? [19:42] Badegakk: yes through dolhpin (that how I do it, no mounting or anything) [19:42] running it on 640*480 now [19:43] Badegakk: (it supports it, but I dont know how to configure it to work) [19:43] Synjunitzu: configure xorg... (dont personally know how to do it manually, but there shold be lots of guides on google) [19:44] how can i configure xorg theres nothing in it. [19:44] Synjunitzu: distro? [19:44] hmm. wierd [19:44] Synjunitzu: by default 10.04 dosnt have an xorg.conf file, but if you create one it will use it === Guest48470 is now known as linuxfx [19:47] well :/ wondering how to create one now [19:47] * Synjunitzu googles [19:48] Synjunitzu: its just a file, so "kdesudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf" (and saving) will create an empty one... dont know how to write one though, but there are lots of guides for configuing xorg [19:48] yeah thats what I mean [19:49] the writing of it [19:50] Synjunitzu: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1437980#2 [19:50] might be helpful :) [19:50] tnx James147 [19:50] Synjunitzu, this also works on 10.04 , I used it myself , http://ubuntulinux.co.in/blog/ubuntu/ubuntu-9-10/xorg-conf-file-create-on-ubuntu-9-10/ [19:51] Synjunitzu: comment #8 on that page might work [19:52] ^^ the one I linked that is === jtheuer is now known as jt|away [19:52] tnx BluesKaj [19:52] okay [19:53] (which says much the same thing as BluesKaj link, but BluesKaj's explains the steps beter :) [19:54] hmm reading [20:03] anyone know hot to make the task bar float? [20:03] Synjunitzu: float? [20:03] yeah. [20:03] lol [20:04] like how windows can float [20:04] and widget [20:04] widgets* [20:05] you mean put it as a widget on the Desktop [20:05] yeah [20:05] Synjunitzu: ... not sure how that would work...? (what is if you want it to be visable when applications are covering it?, if not then just rightclick the desktop > add widgets > find "Task Manager" > drag to where you want it) [20:05] the whole task bar [20:05] hmm [20:05] Synjunitzu: note that everything on the panel (and desktop) is a widget and can be added this way and placed anywher you like :) [20:06] hola [20:06] okay cool [20:06] Synjunitzu: oo, and there is a dash board you can place things on as well [20:06] im just trying to figure out a work around [20:06] Synjunitzu: workaround for what? [20:06] screen problem [20:07] Synjunitzu: the links we sent didnt help? [20:07] well theyre not the problem [20:07] hey guys, would need help if possible with my wireless !! the issue is cant get internet connection. I can connect to my AP with no error message at all. [20:08] but I have no internet connection whatshover [20:08] Synjunitzu: then what exactly is the problem? [20:08] the problem is my Kubuntu keeps reseting everytime I apply the resolution of 1024*600 [20:08] Synjunitzu: yes, so setting xorg (which sets the resalution before kde is even started) should help [20:09] oh [20:09] lol didnt know that [20:09] googling for an example xorg config now [20:09] Synjunitzu: those links we sent show how to set one up [20:09] sorry, need to rectify that, iwconfig gives me Access Point: Not-associated [20:10] so that means I cannot associate with my AP for an unknow reason [20:10] !xorg [20:10] The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution [20:13] shit! [20:13] !ohmy [20:14] Please remember that all Ubuntu IRC channels share the same attitude of providing friendly and polite interaction with all users of all ages and cultures. Basically, this means no foul language and no abuse towards others. [20:14] um problemo [20:14] because of my messup up resolution I cant access the... the "start" widget.. [20:15] to get access to krand something? [20:16] awesome. run utility [20:16] Synjunitzu: alt+f2 to get krunner up and run what you want from that [20:16] yeah found it in right click [20:17] * James147 uses krunner as a menu replacment on his netbook AND desktop [20:20] James147: Nice. :-) [20:21] I also supplement krunner with a yakuake sesson. === hans_ is now known as hax [20:22] DarthFrog: o yeah, run yakuake as well :) which I use mostly to replace konsole (although not always) [20:22] (at least for running tasks quickly) [20:23] Yakuake is pretty much a more agile Konsole. [20:24] * James147 has also configured text files to open in konsole using vim, and to attach to an existing session if there is one :D [20:24] Now that's a nice touch. [20:24] DarthFrog: it uses konsole-part so is basically konsole :) [20:24] Right. [20:25] hmpf.. ok im not gona do this now.. [20:25] But in a more ergonomic exoskeleton. :-) [20:25] its just gona frustrate me [20:25] ^^ also the vim window opens at the same position and size :) in the place I most like ot edit things [20:25] !irc [20:25] A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines [20:26] could anyone suggest a different irc application for me? I want to be able to make windows like in mirc [20:26] !mirc [20:26] Synjunitzu: have you tried konversation? [20:26] didnt even know about it [20:26] looking now [20:26] Konversation is an excellent IRC client. I'm using it now. [20:27] !konversation [20:27] * James147 only uses quassel... has everything he really needs and is setup how he likes it :) [20:27] !info konversation [20:27] konversation (source: konversation): user friendly Internet Relay Chat (IRC) client for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 1.2.3-1ubuntu2 (lucid), package size 2352 kB, installed size 10568 kB [20:27] brb [20:28] back [20:30] i think my widget thing just crashed [20:30] i click add widgets and nothing comes up [20:30] Synjunitzu: ... hmm [20:30] :? [20:31] Synjunitzu: its part of plasma, would have thorught if it crashed it would bring down the desktop [20:31] Lol. [20:31] well.. [20:31] it isnt showing up [20:32] Synjunitzu: lock and unlock the widgets (just a random guess) [20:32] nope not working [20:32] Synjunitzu: if not restart plasma-desktop (kquitapp plasma-desktop && sleep 2 && plasma-desktop) [20:33] locked and unlocked. clicked add widgets still nothing [20:33] okay [20:33] ill remember that one [20:33] working [20:34] (note that the sleep 2 just delays the starting, its not needed but I have found that without it plasma-desktop dosnt always come back up [20:34] cool [20:34] (if it dosnt just alt+f2 and run "plasma-desktop" [20:35] okay [20:41] James147; the install automatically configured a swap partition for me. [20:42] KittyBoots: it will do unless you select manual partitioning :) [20:46] !konversation [20:46] !info konversation [20:46] konversation (source: konversation): user friendly Internet Relay Chat (IRC) client for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 1.2.3-1ubuntu2 (lucid), package size 2352 kB, installed size 10568 kB [20:46] how do i get it? [20:46] :/ [20:47] Konversation [20:47] first try to search it about kpackagekit [20:47] Synjunitzu: "sudo aptitude insstall konversation" or through kpackagekit (or apt-get instead of aptitude) [20:47] installing [20:47] yeah [20:48] hmm okay [20:48] it's a good irc client, but what you're now using Synjunitzu ? [20:48] Quassel? [20:48] yip [20:48] why do you want to change? [20:49] because I like seperating my chats into seperate windows [20:49] so im looking for that feature [20:51] hi, how can I have the choice of the sytem locales to use? dpkg-reconfigure locales does not ask me (while in debian does), kubunut 10.04 [20:54] What is the keyring used by the network manager applet? [20:55] It keeps asking me for a password but not accepting it. [20:56] KittyBoots: kwallet stores passwords, [20:56] James147; it is not cooperating with me. [20:57] I have to deny it. [20:57] How do I configure it? [20:58] KittyBoots: kwallet? or knetworkmanger? [20:58] How do I dissasociate the two? [20:59] KittyBoots: knetwrokmanager stores its passwords in kwallet (so it will ask for a network key first, then ask you to create a wallet) [20:59] Do I have to create a wallet? [21:00] KittyBoots: no [21:00] KittyBoots: the first time a program trys to access one, it will prompt you to create it (a dialog with two password fields will appear and a strength indicator) [21:01] KittyBoots: my guess is knetworkmanager is having problems with the network key? [21:01] I don't know, somethings not working properly. This seems to be . . . acting strangely. [21:01] Maybe, I'll try changing things. [21:02] KittyBoots: knetworkmanager has a few kinks still... what encryption are you using? [21:03] The ssid is hidden and the encryption is wpa & wpa2 personal 36 character. [21:03] KittyBoots: hmm, hidden ssid, dont know how well knetworkmanager handels them... [21:04] KittyBoots: do you have a wired connection at all? [21:05] James147; No. I am on 2 computers. This is my main unit and the other is the one I am installing on. === synju is now known as Synjunitzu [21:07] James147; but if I do have a router that is not being used. If I could do internet connection sharing with this machine and use the router to share the connection than I would. But I have never done that before and that was not on my list of things to do today. [21:10] KittyBoots: would it be possible to temporly connect the new computer instead to install a few things? (the other option is to configure the internet connection via command line, which i dont know how to do with wireless:) ) [21:11] James147; I am too far from the router to connect. [21:15] KittyBoots: I suggest you try to install "wicd" it handles wireless better then networkmanager does atm... (easiet to do with a wired connection if at all possible... but there are allot of guides on howto configure teh wireless via command line if thats not possible) [21:15] James147; sure thanks. === codolio is now known as dolio === rez is now known as Guest22731 [21:38] solved === jt|away is now known as jtheuer [21:49] Could anyone point toward a complete guide for sound in Kubuntu ? [21:52] I have googled but could not find anything that explains me how sound works Kubuntu [21:52] in particular for specific app that are not part of KDE [21:52] !sound [21:52] If you're having problems with sound see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3 [21:55] I have no issue with sound [21:56] I just needed a good guide (not a sysadmin one) but a guide that would explain the way sound is handled in Kubuntu [21:59] hi guys !!! [22:01] can anyone help me , i am using kde with bespin but having a problem with dragon and kaffeine not show the video image . [22:02] how do I restart plasma again? lost the command [22:04] Synjunitzu: kquitapp plasma-desktop && plasma-desktop [22:06] hi [22:07] DoctorPepper: what version of kde? and does it behave the same when using oxygen? [22:07] is there any good solution to the dolphin lag problem in 4.5.x? i did read something about libdbus, and also found an alternative packaging ppa, but i'm not sure if this is the right solution [22:08] Freddy2: Think that problem is caused by the info panel (and/or tooltips) try closeing that (I have had not problems with dolphin lagging, but I havent had the info panel open in along time) [22:10] hi [22:10] can speak Turkish anyone here? [22:10] For the last month CUPS does not start on boot... I have to manually start the demon. How do I fix that? [22:10] i did close this panel, but the problem it's still there.. and tooltips? can you disable them? where? [22:11] James147: kde 4.4, and it behaves the same way on oxygen [22:14] James147: any idea ??? [22:17] DoctorPepper: try chaging tabs in kaffeine [22:17] same problem [22:17] DoctorPepper: different bug then I am thinking of then :) [22:18] DoctorPepper: do you have the codecs installed? [22:18] (kubuntu-restricted-extras should ocntain everything you need) [22:18] all codecs installed [22:26] can anyone help me with making a pen drive boot? [22:27] When I restart, f12, and select "removable devices", there's a pause and then it boots into kubuntu as usual [22:27] I'm trying to boot into ubuntu netbook [22:30] Pavel_10: I would use usb-creator-kde or unetbootin to create them [22:32] james147, 've been using the USB startup creator ("usb" option from CL) [22:34] Pavel_10: hmm, that should make the drive bootable [22:34] james147, do you know if there's a way to check the install for errors? [22:34] Pavel_10: I take bit F12 is the key to select the device to boot from? [22:34] james147 yes [22:35] Pavel_10: well, i would do a md5 on the .iso to make sure tahts not cruppt, [22:35] !md5 [22:35] To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows [22:35] how do I do that [22:35] Pavel_10: if it passes, try rerunning usb-creator and creating the disk again [22:36] Pavel_10: read the links ubottu gave [22:37] Pavel_10: You might want to note that not all bios's support booting from usb devices, although I dont know how to check this (most if not all modern ones do) [22:38] i'm just trying ubuntu10.4 [22:40] Pavel_10: note also that you can install ubuntu inside kubuntu (and chose which one you want to load at the login screen) but installing ubuntu-desktop or kubuntu-desktop (or ubuntu-netbook...) [22:41] I'm actually just trying to test my ubuntu-flash drive so I can use that drive to test out a pc [22:43] james147, i ran the md5sum and checked the number on the hash page, and everything seems to check out [22:44] Pavel_10: then try reinstalling it to the flash stick and trying again... if it still dosnt work I am not sure what you can do (I would test it on a nother comp if you have one, it could be that this computer cannot boot from usb) [22:50] James147: hmm by closing the panel and relaunching dolphin the problem doesn't seem to be there anymore :) thx === epic__ is now known as Akallabeth [23:25] hello all , can anyone help me get the colors back for svn filename (i.e local updated file names had green text) [23:42] sithlord48: Where? [23:42] dolphin === root is now known as Guest6804 [23:44] hello everyone [23:45] excuse me everyone but can you help me with this? -> i thought it would be nice to e.g. 1) search for all e.g. PNG-files on some of my hard-disk's folders and 2) put them all in one folder ... is there a way to do this with some commands so that i don't have to click through every folder on my hard disk? [23:46] bbb [23:46] jjjjj === yamba is now known as Yamba|ZzZ [23:49] mado: I'll assume that they are named .png ? [23:50] hello daskreecH [23:50] mado: Hello [23:50] what do you mean with that? ... png-files are ".png" ... yes [23:50] mado: Then you can used the find command and do what you want with it [23:50] mado: Look up find and exec{} to get an example [23:51] ok ... lemme check that ... you mean looking them up in the manpages don't you? [23:51] In short you can look up all files in a particular directory that end with .png and then do any action on them for example moving them to this directory [23:52] mado: Faster to ask the internet it's a well known and documented problem [23:52] You can read the manpage after to see what else you would like to do [23:52] mado: kfind? you can drag'n'drop the results to a dir in dolphin.. [23:52] find is a very throrough and complex command that often has simple uses [23:52] djustice: Or that :) [23:52] ;) [23:52] !info kfind [23:52] kfind (source: kdebase): file search utility for KDE 4. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.4.2-0ubuntu2 (lucid), package size 121 kB, installed size 656 kB [23:53] well djustice and daskreecH ... i'm new to linux and all this :) ... i didn't know it could be that easy :) [23:53] djustice: best would be nepomuk which would auto add any png file to a virtual directory [23:53] mado: It may not always be easy but for the most part it's possible [23:54] You have maybe 3-5 options to do what you are asking [23:54] the find method from the command line is the most documented [23:54] eh, its always easy. it's just a keyboard/mouse. it might be easier if we just knew a little more about how to achieve what we want.. [23:54] kfind is probably the easiest [23:54] well daskreecH ... djustice ... i'm looking for an easy way ... plus when moving those files ... i don't want any file with the same name to get overwritten [23:54] nepomuk would be the best but that's neither documented or easy :) [23:54] mado: it asks. with a 'suggest new name' option. [23:54] it's just ... i have quite a few different files ... not only PNGs ... [23:54] mado: kfind might be a nice way to start [23:55] daskreecH: heh, in 2014 maybe. [23:55] djustice: for easy? or for documented and easy? [23:55] I think that Nepomuk will be easy for 2013 [23:55] might take another year for good end user documentation though [23:57] any idea why svn files no longer have colored file names in dolphin?