| AnAnt | Hello, is stable@kernel.org a mailing list ? if yes, where are the archives ? | 04:11 |
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| AnAnt | ogasawara: thanks | 06:58 |
| amitk | apw, several new drivers coming your way :) (Re: broadcom open sources several drivers) | 08:19 |
| * abogani waves all! | 08:21 | |
| ikepanhc | I remember leann had a presentation that we can change the linux-image deb and rebuild the ISO image, anyone knows where we can find how to do it? | 08:32 |
| apw | amitk, yeah thats very good news | 08:48 |
| apw | ikepanhc, wasn't that about testing? maybe a wiki page about it | 08:48 |
| ikepanhc | apw: its about bug 634702 | 08:51 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 634702 in linux (Ubuntu) "Kernel 2.6.3519 fails to boot Lenovo S10-3 (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/634702 | 08:51 |
| ikepanhc | apw: looks like a regression, I think I can test for old kernels to make sure how it happen, or any idea? | 08:52 |
| apw | ikepanhc, if you made a USB stick with a large persistance filesystem you can install and update kernels on it right? | 08:55 |
| apw | if you have any system which can boot it | 08:55 |
| apw | ikepanhc, did you test -19 or -20 ? | 08:57 |
| ikepanhc | apw: lastest daily-livecd | 08:57 |
| ikepanhc | apw: checking for its ABI now | 08:57 |
| apw | so thats proabally -20 | 08:57 |
| ikepanhc | apw: another question: kernel freeze in 4 days, how will we deal with this kind of bugs.. in my viewpoint this shall be a critical bug | 08:59 |
| apw | ikepanhc, kernel freeze means no mo features, we can in an emergency add patches. we start apply SRU policy to changes proposed for maverick at that point | 09:00 |
| ikepanhc | apw: got it | 09:00 |
| ikepanhc | apw: yes, its -20 kernel | 09:01 |
| apw | so you could diw | 09:02 |
| apw | downgrade the kernel using anoth | 09:02 |
| apw | another machine booted on it | 09:02 |
| ikepanhc | but how can we update the initrd? | 09:03 |
| * apw actually is now unsure, perhaps there is a reason you can;t damn i forget | 09:04 | |
| ikepanhc | I find the alpha-3 iso. I will test it first | 09:06 |
| apw | yeah good plan, i can't find the page, but i am sure there is a wiki page from leann as you suggest | 09:07 |
| ikepanhc | I will ask leann... | 09:07 |
| RAOF | Where is the drm-intel-next mainline build being pulled from now? Has it been updated to the new Chris Wilson-maintained branch? | 09:23 |
| apw | RAOF, nope, it was removed cause i was told it was dead | 09:36 |
| apw | RAOF, is there now a new one? | 09:36 |
| RAOF | apw: http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/ickle/drm-intel.git;a=summary | 09:37 |
| apw | RAOF, so drm-intel-next from there ? | 09:37 |
| RAOF | Yup. | 09:37 |
| RAOF | Although the commit that I actually _want_ is in drm-intel-staging (for bug #629711) | 09:38 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 629711 in linux (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 2 other projects) "[Maverick] Removing external display on Vostro 3500 corrupts the screen (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/629711 | 09:38 |
| apw | RAOF, ok i've reinstated the drm-intel-next builds from the new place, first one should be triggered on the hour | 09:48 |
| RAOF | apw: Neato! | 09:49 |
| apw | RAOF, have we bottomed out on i8xx support yet? there was a bunch of options and i am not sure as to the outcome, did you an Sarvatt come to an agreement on strategy? | 09:49 |
| RAOF | Sarvatt's leaning towards unblacklisting KMS and using fbdev on them. | 09:50 |
| RAOF | Well, not so much “leaning towards” as “advocating”. | 09:50 |
| apw | yep, and what about you? | 09:50 |
| apw | i see we have them blacklisted at of now, and we'd need to reverse that before next thursday if we're going to | 09:51 |
| RAOF | I think we should probably go with KMS + fbdev. | 09:51 |
| RAOF | A number of people on the bug have found that vesa just doesn't work for them at all. | 09:52 |
| apw | RAOF, ok so will you start the discussion somewhere that X and kernel can see it ... | 09:53 |
| RAOF | Yeah. | 09:53 |
| RAOF | I'll continue the thread on ubuntu-x@ | 09:53 |
| apw | or Sarvatt if that is more appropriate | 09:53 |
| RAOF | And CC kernel-team. | 09:53 |
| apw | sounds perfect | 09:53 |
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| pgraner | http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=104%E5%8F%B0%E7%81%A3%E5%8F%B0%E5%8C%97%E5%B8%82%E4%B8%AD%E5%B1%B1%E5%8D%80%E6%95%AC%E6%A5%AD%E5%9B%9B%E8%B7%AF168%E8%99%9F+(Grand+Victoria+Hotel+%E7%B6%AD%E5%A4%9A%E9%BA%97%E4%BA%9E%E9%85%92%E5%BA%97)&daddr=25.033611,121.565&hl=en&geocode=FaXBfgEdudY-ByFgxSGkANcPqCk_txE8E6xCNDHNTYkrtFFjLQ%3BFYv7fQEdSO8-Bw&mra=pd&mrcr=0&dirflg=w&sll=25.058968,121.561856&sspn=0.080706,0.154324&ie=UTF8&ll=25.059011 | 14:41 |
| pgraner | ,121.570759&spn=0.080706,0.154324&z=13 | 14:41 |
| pgraner | apw, ^^^^ | 14:41 |
| manjo | is tangerine down for maintanence ? or dead ? | 15:02 |
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| ogasawara | ikepanhc: bjf probably has the most up to date scripts for generating a custom iso. | 15:13 |
| ogasawara | ikepanhc: but the general documentation I used is at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization | 15:13 |
| ikepanhc | ogasawara: thank you, and good morning :) | 15:14 |
| mpoirier | tgardner: did you do anything with the gumstix you got in Prague ? | 15:14 |
| ikepanhc | ogasawara: that's what I need | 15:14 |
| tgardner | mpoirier, not yet. its still on my desk at home. | 15:14 |
| tgardner | manjo, tangerine was up last I checked earlier this AM | 15:15 |
| mpoirier | tgarnder: if you'd send it to me I could fix the display for maverick and send it back to me when I'm done. | 15:15 |
| tgardner | mpoirier, can do. email your shipping instructions and I'll get it sent on Monday | 15:15 |
| ogasawara | apw: you get my notes for the release meeting? | 15:16 |
| mpoirier | tgardner: ok. It should take long, I suspect it is the same problem we had with beagle. | 15:16 |
| mpoirier | *shouldn't* | 15:16 |
| apw | ogasawara, yeah got them thanks | 15:18 |
| apw | anyone got a 32 bit install but installed on a 64bit capable processor ? | 15:21 |
| apw | (and who is prepared to test a kernel for me) | 15:21 |
| apw | akgraner, how did that last kernel go for you? | 15:21 |
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| bjf | ikepanhc: any way I can help you? | 15:25 |
| jjohansen | apw: I have 32 bit OS install in a vm on a 64bit capable proc | 15:25 |
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| apw | that might do it | 15:25 |
| apw | bjf, did you find the lucid lbm update ? | 15:25 |
| apw | jjohansen, i'll let you know when its built | 15:25 |
| bjf | apw, yes, where did you find it? | 15:25 |
| manjo | tgardner, its up now | 15:26 |
| apw | (this is a 64 bit kernel packaged for 32 bit install) | 15:26 |
| bjf | apw: we looked around a bit for it | 15:26 |
| ikepanhc | bjf: its bug 634702 | 15:26 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 634702 in linux (Ubuntu) "Kernel 2.6.35-19 fails to boot Lenovo S10-3 (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/634702 | 15:26 |
| apw | bjf, i bumped into smb in a social context and mentioned it to him and he happened to be at home so he pushed it | 15:26 |
| bjf | apw, heh | 15:26 |
| ikepanhc | bjf: I have confirmed that daily LiveCD halt just as the description, but maverick alpha 3 LiveCD booting successfully though the mouse can not move.. | 15:27 |
| ikepanhc | bjf: I plan to use alpha 3 CD image as base, and replace the linux-image for testing booting LiveCD... | 15:28 |
| bjf | ikepanhc: ok, that should be doable | 15:29 |
| ikepanhc | bjf: try to find out if there is any commit related | 15:29 |
| bjf | ikepanhc: the scripts are in the kteam-tools git tree under "daily-test-isos" | 15:30 |
| ikepanhc | bjf: ack - cloning | 15:32 |
| JFo | manjo, feel up to talking about Firewire stack bug triage tomorrow? | 15:34 |
| * ogasawara bails for appt, back in a bit | 15:36 | |
| manjo | JFo, tomorrow? | 15:38 |
| JFo | yep | 15:42 |
| JFo | I can't find my notes on who was going to do the talk | 15:42 |
| JFo | on USB Firewire etc. | 15:42 |
| JFo | so I thought I would ask | 15:42 |
| JFo | just a brief talk on what is useful for triage of those types of bugs | 15:42 |
| penguin42 | I've just put a patch for the lshw oops/hang on bug 614008 | 15:42 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 614008 in lshw (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "lshw causes laptop to freeze up (affects: 24) (dups: 9) (heat: 135)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/614008 | 15:42 |
| JFo | manjo, if you can't it isn't a big deal | 15:44 |
| manjo | JFo, let me see, its quiet late notice for me, I made some plans for the Sat | 15:50 |
| JFo | no problem | 15:56 |
| JFo | like I said, it isn't a big deal | 15:57 |
| apw | jfo do we have a cal entry for the summit tommorrow | 16:02 |
| * apw pokes JFo harder | 16:06 | |
| JFo | not in the kernel team calendar | 16:06 |
| JFo | but it is on the Fridge calendar | 16:06 |
| apw | i recon copy it into the kernel team cal, then i can sub self and get reminders | 16:06 |
| apw | jfo are we having a chin wag today about whats happening | 16:07 |
| JFo | yeah, doing that now | 16:08 |
| JFo | apw, we can if you like | 16:08 |
| apw | feeling unprepared | 16:08 |
| * ikepanhc needs to go to bed... | 16:31 | |
| ikepanhc | will keep trying maverick on s10-3 tomorrow.. | 16:31 |
| apw | jjohansen, that kernel is: http://people.canonical.com/~apw/generic64-maverick/ | 16:37 |
| apw | this is a 32bit packaged 64bit kernel | 16:37 |
| jjohansen | okay, I'll give it a sping | 16:38 |
| apw | so it should install and work on a 32bit userspace ... in theory | 16:38 |
| jjohansen | s/sping/spin | 16:38 |
| apw | of course its hard to tell if i've done it right, a dmesg from the boot would be useful | 16:38 |
| jjohansen | apw: booted, where would you like me to put the dmesg | 16:45 |
| apw | pastbin perhaps | 16:46 |
| apw | or chin or zinc | 16:46 |
| jjohansen | apw: pastebin.ubuntu.com/491650 | 16:48 |
| jjohansen | apw: and its on real hardware | 16:49 |
| apw | jjohansen, oh and what does uname -a say | 16:50 |
| tgardner | bjf, can you remember the URL for customizing live CDs on the Ubuntu wiki? | 16:50 |
| bjf | tgardner: just a sec... | 16:51 |
| tgardner | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization | 16:51 |
| tgardner | is that it? | 16:51 |
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| bjf | tgardner: yes, that's it | 16:51 |
| apw | jjohansen, well its definatly a 64 bit kernel, so thats good | 16:52 |
| jjohansen | apw: Linux jj-desktop 2.6.35-20-generic64 #29generic64v201009101521 SMP Fri Sep 10 14:23:16 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux | 16:52 |
| tgardner | bjf, thanks | 16:52 |
| apw | jjohansen, i am supprised to see x86_64 in there from a 32 bit userspace | 16:52 |
| jjohansen | hrmm, me too | 16:52 |
| apw | i thought it was supposed to round it down to i686 for 32 bit userspace | 16:52 |
| jjohansen | its a maverick-desktop i386 install | 16:53 |
| apw | well that seems good, other than the x86_64 appearing in uname | 16:56 |
| apw | perhaps it was another call that lies, i wish i could find the code | 16:57 |
| apw | jjohansen, i think its a bug, they changed the code which did that to do it in a common way | 17:00 |
| apw | and it looks like it is not working | 17:00 |
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| apw | jjohansen, this i've foudn the bug, confirming now | 17:26 |
| apw | ogasawara, release meeting all quiet | 17:40 |
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| bjf | pgraner, did jane get a new laptop? | 18:31 |
| cnd_ | apw, ogasawara, have you seen suspend/resume issues on intel hardware lately? | 18:32 |
| cnd_ | in maverick? | 18:32 |
| cnd_ | my mini won't resume properly | 18:33 |
| apw | cnd_, nope | 18:33 |
| ogasawara | cnd: I haven't myself, which maverick kernel? | 18:35 |
| cnd_ | -20 | 18:35 |
| cnd_ | let me see if I have some logs | 18:36 |
| apw | cnd_, do see if its new by backing up a kernel | 18:36 |
| cnd_ | apw, I will if/when I get a chance | 18:36 |
| cnd_ | I'm crazy busy right now :( | 18:36 |
| ogasawara | cnd: my mini is at home but I can test when I get back (although I swear I'd tested before I uploaded) | 18:37 |
| cnd_ | it seems to suspend | 18:38 |
| cnd_ | on resume I think the HD light blinks a bit | 18:38 |
| cnd_ | but the screen doesn't come up and I can't seem to do anything | 18:38 |
| cnd_ | unfortunately my mini is my only "work" computer (i.e. non-victim) and I'm at a conference | 18:38 |
| bjf | cnd_, but the "fast boot" is soo fast, why bother suspending? | 18:40 |
| cnd_ | heh :) | 18:40 |
| apw | cnd_, try switching VT to 0 and back | 18:40 |
| apw | to save the pitiful battery no doubt | 18:41 |
| cnd_ | apw, hmm, I can't even switch to a VT | 18:41 |
| cnd_ | I'm in unity | 18:41 |
| apw | you lose :) | 18:41 |
| cnd_ | I dunno if that makes a difference | 18:41 |
| cnd_ | heh | 18:41 |
| cnd_ | oh wait, I wasn't holding down Fn | 18:41 |
| cnd_ | let me try that | 18:41 |
| cnd_ | apw, ok VT switching worked | 18:41 |
| apw | cnd_, wibble, well you have a work around at least | 18:42 |
| cnd_ | yeah | 18:42 |
| apw | cnd, let us know if its reproducible | 18:45 |
| cnd_ | yep | 18:48 |
| cnd_ | well, it is reproducible | 18:48 |
| apw | yep it is, or you will? | 18:48 |
| cnd_ | every time I suspend | 18:48 |
| apw | so yeah when you can try the prev kernel | 18:49 |
| apw | it may be userspace yet | 18:49 |
| vanhoof | apw: trying it out on a x201 | 19:01 |
| vanhoof | -19 works, upgrading to -20 | 19:02 |
| vanhoof | apw: all is well on -20 on this x201 (arrandale based) | 19:06 |
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| apw | vanhoof, with suspend ? | 19:41 |
| apw | and if so, did you only update the kernel, are there any userspace updated pending> | 19:41 |
| vanhoof | apw: yeah just kernel | 19:44 |
| vanhoof | i'll update everything | 19:44 |
| apw | vanhoof, you are a solider indeed | 19:53 |
| vanhoof | apw: sick of working on spreadsheets today :) | 19:54 |
| apw | vanhoof, that i can imaging | 19:58 |
| * vanhoof wonders if his laptop will explode | 19:58 | |
| vanhoof | apw: full updated, all is well | 20:13 |
| vanhoof | apw: suspend/resume 5 times no probs | 20:14 |
| * jjohansen heading in to portland knitting circle | 20:25 | |
| cnd_ | apw, ogasawara: do you know what the maverick backport kernel for lucid is called? | 20:31 |
| apw | cnd_, lts-backports-maverick in the kernel-ppa ppa i think | 20:34 |
| cnd_ | apw, I thought the backport would be available in ubuntu proper? | 20:34 |
| apw | cnd_, it _will_ be once we have an official kernel to release | 20:35 |
| cnd_ | ahh | 20:35 |
| cnd_ | ok | 20:35 |
| IceCook | hi, I want to know some stuff aboute the net device in the linux kernel, first. are there existing any device files for the physic interface? and where can i found device files for the tun/tap or bridge interface? | 21:01 |
| IceCook | someone here? | 21:15 |
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