[04:11] Hello, is stable@kernel.org a mailing list ? if yes, where are the archives ? [06:58] ogasawara: thanks [08:19] apw, several new drivers coming your way :) (Re: broadcom open sources several drivers) [08:21] * abogani waves all! [08:32] I remember leann had a presentation that we can change the linux-image deb and rebuild the ISO image, anyone knows where we can find how to do it? [08:48] amitk, yeah thats very good news [08:48] ikepanhc, wasn't that about testing? maybe a wiki page about it [08:51] apw: its about bug 634702 [08:51] Launchpad bug 634702 in linux (Ubuntu) "Kernel 2.6.3519 fails to boot Lenovo S10-3 (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/634702 [08:52] apw: looks like a regression, I think I can test for old kernels to make sure how it happen, or any idea? [08:55] ikepanhc, if you made a USB stick with a large persistance filesystem you can install and update kernels on it right? [08:55] if you have any system which can boot it [08:57] ikepanhc, did you test -19 or -20 ? [08:57] apw: lastest daily-livecd [08:57] apw: checking for its ABI now [08:57] so thats proabally -20 [08:59] apw: another question: kernel freeze in 4 days, how will we deal with this kind of bugs.. in my viewpoint this shall be a critical bug [09:00] ikepanhc, kernel freeze means no mo features, we can in an emergency add patches. we start apply SRU policy to changes proposed for maverick at that point [09:00] apw: got it [09:01] apw: yes, its -20 kernel [09:02] so you could diw [09:02] downgrade the kernel using anoth [09:02] another machine booted on it [09:03] but how can we update the initrd? [09:04] * apw actually is now unsure, perhaps there is a reason you can;t damn i forget [09:06] I find the alpha-3 iso. I will test it first [09:07] yeah good plan, i can't find the page, but i am sure there is a wiki page from leann as you suggest [09:07] I will ask leann... [09:23] Where is the drm-intel-next mainline build being pulled from now? Has it been updated to the new Chris Wilson-maintained branch? [09:36] RAOF, nope, it was removed cause i was told it was dead [09:36] RAOF, is there now a new one? [09:37] apw: http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/ickle/drm-intel.git;a=summary [09:37] RAOF, so drm-intel-next from there ? [09:37] Yup. [09:38] Although the commit that I actually _want_ is in drm-intel-staging (for bug #629711) [09:38] Launchpad bug 629711 in linux (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 2 other projects) "[Maverick] Removing external display on Vostro 3500 corrupts the screen (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/629711 [09:48] RAOF, ok i've reinstated the drm-intel-next builds from the new place, first one should be triggered on the hour [09:49] apw: Neato! [09:49] RAOF, have we bottomed out on i8xx support yet? there was a bunch of options and i am not sure as to the outcome, did you an Sarvatt come to an agreement on strategy? [09:50] Sarvatt's leaning towards unblacklisting KMS and using fbdev on them. [09:50] Well, not so much “leaning towards” as “advocating”. [09:50] yep, and what about you? [09:51] i see we have them blacklisted at of now, and we'd need to reverse that before next thursday if we're going to [09:51] I think we should probably go with KMS + fbdev. [09:52] A number of people on the bug have found that vesa just doesn't work for them at all. [09:53] RAOF, ok so will you start the discussion somewhere that X and kernel can see it ... [09:53] Yeah. [09:53] I'll continue the thread on ubuntu-x@ [09:53] or Sarvatt if that is more appropriate [09:53] And CC kernel-team. [09:53] sounds perfect === fabbione is now known as fabbione_vac === BenC___ is now known as BenC === ivoks-afk is now known as ivoks [14:41] http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=104%E5%8F%B0%E7%81%A3%E5%8F%B0%E5%8C%97%E5%B8%82%E4%B8%AD%E5%B1%B1%E5%8D%80%E6%95%AC%E6%A5%AD%E5%9B%9B%E8%B7%AF168%E8%99%9F+(Grand+Victoria+Hotel+%E7%B6%AD%E5%A4%9A%E9%BA%97%E4%BA%9E%E9%85%92%E5%BA%97)&daddr=25.033611,121.565&hl=en&geocode=FaXBfgEdudY-ByFgxSGkANcPqCk_txE8E6xCNDHNTYkrtFFjLQ%3BFYv7fQEdSO8-Bw&mra=pd&mrcr=0&dirflg=w&sll=25.058968,121.561856&sspn=0.080706,0.154324&ie=UTF8&ll=25.059011 [14:41] ,121.570759&spn=0.080706,0.154324&z=13 [14:41] apw, ^^^^ [15:02] is tangerine down for maintanence ? or dead ? === cnd` is now known as cnd [15:13] ikepanhc: bjf probably has the most up to date scripts for generating a custom iso. [15:13] ikepanhc: but the general documentation I used is at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization [15:14] ogasawara: thank you, and good morning :) [15:14] tgardner: did you do anything with the gumstix you got in Prague ? [15:14] ogasawara: that's what I need [15:14] mpoirier, not yet. its still on my desk at home. [15:15] manjo, tangerine was up last I checked earlier this AM [15:15] tgarnder: if you'd send it to me I could fix the display for maverick and send it back to me when I'm done. [15:15] mpoirier, can do. email your shipping instructions and I'll get it sent on Monday [15:16] apw: you get my notes for the release meeting? [15:16] tgardner: ok. It should take long, I suspect it is the same problem we had with beagle. [15:16] *shouldn't* [15:18] ogasawara, yeah got them thanks [15:21] anyone got a 32 bit install but installed on a 64bit capable processor ? [15:21] (and who is prepared to test a kernel for me) [15:21] akgraner, how did that last kernel go for you? === bjf[afk] is now known as bjf [15:25] ikepanhc: any way I can help you? [15:25] apw: I have 32 bit OS install in a vm on a 64bit capable proc === amitk is now known as amitk-afk [15:25] that might do it [15:25] bjf, did you find the lucid lbm update ? [15:25] jjohansen, i'll let you know when its built [15:25] apw, yes, where did you find it? [15:26] tgardner, its up now [15:26] (this is a 64 bit kernel packaged for 32 bit install) [15:26] apw: we looked around a bit for it [15:26] bjf: its bug 634702 [15:26] Launchpad bug 634702 in linux (Ubuntu) "Kernel 2.6.35-19 fails to boot Lenovo S10-3 (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/634702 [15:26] bjf, i bumped into smb in a social context and mentioned it to him and he happened to be at home so he pushed it [15:26] apw, heh [15:27] bjf: I have confirmed that daily LiveCD halt just as the description, but maverick alpha 3 LiveCD booting successfully though the mouse can not move.. [15:28] bjf: I plan to use alpha 3 CD image as base, and replace the linux-image for testing booting LiveCD... [15:29] ikepanhc: ok, that should be doable [15:29] bjf: try to find out if there is any commit related [15:30] ikepanhc: the scripts are in the kteam-tools git tree under "daily-test-isos" [15:32] bjf: ack - cloning [15:34] manjo, feel up to talking about Firewire stack bug triage tomorrow? [15:36] * ogasawara bails for appt, back in a bit [15:38] JFo, tomorrow? [15:42] yep [15:42] I can't find my notes on who was going to do the talk [15:42] on USB Firewire etc. [15:42] so I thought I would ask [15:42] just a brief talk on what is useful for triage of those types of bugs [15:42] I've just put a patch for the lshw oops/hang on bug 614008 [15:42] Launchpad bug 614008 in lshw (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "lshw causes laptop to freeze up (affects: 24) (dups: 9) (heat: 135)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/614008 [15:44] manjo, if you can't it isn't a big deal [15:50] JFo, let me see, its quiet late notice for me, I made some plans for the Sat [15:56] no problem [15:57] like I said, it isn't a big deal [16:02] jfo do we have a cal entry for the summit tommorrow [16:06] * apw pokes JFo harder [16:06] not in the kernel team calendar [16:06] but it is on the Fridge calendar [16:06] i recon copy it into the kernel team cal, then i can sub self and get reminders [16:07] jfo are we having a chin wag today about whats happening [16:08] yeah, doing that now [16:08] apw, we can if you like [16:08] feeling unprepared [16:31] * ikepanhc needs to go to bed... [16:31] will keep trying maverick on s10-3 tomorrow.. [16:37] jjohansen, that kernel is: http://people.canonical.com/~apw/generic64-maverick/ [16:37] this is a 32bit packaged 64bit kernel [16:38] okay, I'll give it a sping [16:38] so it should install and work on a 32bit userspace ... in theory [16:38] s/sping/spin [16:38] of course its hard to tell if i've done it right, a dmesg from the boot would be useful [16:45] apw: booted, where would you like me to put the dmesg [16:46] pastbin perhaps [16:46] or chin or zinc [16:48] apw: pastebin.ubuntu.com/491650 [16:49] apw: and its on real hardware [16:50] jjohansen, oh and what does uname -a say [16:50] bjf, can you remember the URL for customizing live CDs on the Ubuntu wiki? [16:51] tgardner: just a sec... [16:51] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization [16:51] is that it? === yofel_ is now known as yofel [16:51] tgardner: yes, that's it [16:52] jjohansen, well its definatly a 64 bit kernel, so thats good [16:52] apw: Linux jj-desktop 2.6.35-20-generic64 #29generic64v201009101521 SMP Fri Sep 10 14:23:16 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux [16:52] bjf, thanks [16:52] jjohansen, i am supprised to see x86_64 in there from a 32 bit userspace [16:52] hrmm, me too [16:52] i thought it was supposed to round it down to i686 for 32 bit userspace [16:53] its a maverick-desktop i386 install [16:56] well that seems good, other than the x86_64 appearing in uname [16:57] perhaps it was another call that lies, i wish i could find the code [17:00] jjohansen, i think its a bug, they changed the code which did that to do it in a common way [17:00] and it looks like it is not working === bjf is now known as ___bjf === ___bjf is now known as _b_j_f [17:21] * apw wonders if _b_j_f is feeling ok, he seems to be coming apart [17:26] jjohansen, this i've foudn the bug, confirming now [17:40] ogasawara, release meeting all quiet === ogasawara_ is now known as ogasawara [18:31] pgraner, did jane get a new laptop? [18:32] apw, ogasawara, have you seen suspend/resume issues on intel hardware lately? [18:32] in maverick? [18:33] my mini won't resume properly [18:33] cnd_, nope [18:35] cnd: I haven't myself, which maverick kernel? [18:35] -20 [18:36] let me see if I have some logs [18:36] cnd_, do see if its new by backing up a kernel [18:36] apw, I will if/when I get a chance [18:36] I'm crazy busy right now :( [18:37] cnd: my mini is at home but I can test when I get back (although I swear I'd tested before I uploaded) [18:38] it seems to suspend [18:38] on resume I think the HD light blinks a bit [18:38] but the screen doesn't come up and I can't seem to do anything [18:38] unfortunately my mini is my only "work" computer (i.e. non-victim) and I'm at a conference [18:40] cnd_, but the "fast boot" is soo fast, why bother suspending? [18:40] heh :) [18:40] cnd_, try switching VT to 0 and back [18:41] to save the pitiful battery no doubt [18:41] apw, hmm, I can't even switch to a VT [18:41] I'm in unity [18:41] you lose :) [18:41] I dunno if that makes a difference [18:41] heh [18:41] oh wait, I wasn't holding down Fn [18:41] let me try that [18:41] apw, ok VT switching worked [18:42] cnd_, wibble, well you have a work around at least [18:42] yeah [18:45] cnd, let us know if its reproducible [18:48] yep [18:48] well, it is reproducible [18:48] yep it is, or you will? [18:48] every time I suspend [18:49] so yeah when you can try the prev kernel [18:49] it may be userspace yet [19:01] apw: trying it out on a x201 [19:02] -19 works, upgrading to -20 [19:06] apw: all is well on -20 on this x201 (arrandale based) === ivoks is now known as ivoks-afk [19:41] vanhoof, with suspend ? [19:41] and if so, did you only update the kernel, are there any userspace updated pending> [19:44] apw: yeah just kernel [19:44] i'll update everything [19:53] vanhoof, you are a solider indeed [19:54] apw: sick of working on spreadsheets today :) [19:58] vanhoof, that i can imaging [19:58] * vanhoof wonders if his laptop will explode [20:13] apw: full updated, all is well [20:14] apw: suspend/resume 5 times no probs [20:25] * jjohansen heading in to portland knitting circle [20:31] apw, ogasawara: do you know what the maverick backport kernel for lucid is called? [20:34] cnd_, lts-backports-maverick in the kernel-ppa ppa i think [20:34] apw, I thought the backport would be available in ubuntu proper? [20:35] cnd_, it _will_ be once we have an official kernel to release [20:35] ahh [20:35] ok [21:01] hi, I want to know some stuff aboute the net device in the linux kernel, first. are there existing any device files for the physic interface? and where can i found device files for the tun/tap or bridge interface? [21:15] someone here?