[16:00] <seb128> hey
[16:00] <skaet> looks like its getting close to time...
[16:00] <ScottK> o/
[16:00]  * apw is here for ogasawara for kernel
[16:00] <ttx> o/
[16:00]  * ScottK is here for both Kubuntu and MOTU.
[16:00] <jdstrand> o/
[16:00]  * joshuahoover is here for ubuntu one
[16:01] <skaet> hi seb128, ttx, apw, ScottK, Jstrand, joshuahhoover....   :)
[16:01] <skaet> #startmeeting
[16:01] <MootBot> Meeting started at 10:01. The chair is skaet.
[16:01] <MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]
[16:02] <skaet> [TOPIC] release health check
[16:02] <MootBot> New Topic:  release health check
[16:02] <skaet> any OMG's (as robbiew puts it)?
[16:02] <ScottK> The biggest issue I'm aware of is the FFe for Mesa.
[16:03] <ScottK> It may be an OMG, but we won't know until after.
[16:03] <robbiew> yeah
[16:03] <skaet> ok,  thanks for putting it on the radar.
[16:03] <robbiew> I would agree...a possible OMG...or even WTF...but could end up being a NP :P
[16:04] <skaet> heh
[16:04] <ScottK> Yep.
[16:04]  * skaet looks around
[16:04] <marjo> robbiew: that's quite a range of expected outcomes
[16:04] <skaet> [TOPIC] QA update
[16:04] <MootBot> New Topic:  QA update
[16:04] <marjo> Hardware testing
[16:04] <marjo> http://people.canonical.com/~fader/hw-testing/current.html
[16:04] <marjo> Laptops
[16:04] <marjo>      Passed:   41 (89%)    Failed:    0 ( 0%)    Untested:  5 (11%)
[16:04] <marjo>  Servers:
[16:04] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://people.canonical.com/~fader/hw-testing/current.html
[16:05] <marjo>  Desktops:
[16:05] <marjo>      Passed:    3 (27%)    Failed:    0 ( 0%)    Untested: 11 (73%)
[16:05] <marjo> The reason for the large number of untested systems is due to a bug that crept into the HW Cert lab environment during testing of a new use case for checkbox. This was fixed late yesterday and results have started coming back in, so the numbers should be back up next week.
[16:05] <marjo> Boot Performance
[16:05] <marjo> http://people.canonical.com/~ameetp/BootChart.html
[16:05] <marjo> Boot Performance Week of 2010-09-06 to 2010-09-10
[16:05] <marjo> -------------------------------------------------
[16:05] <marjo> Number of system regressions on Ubuntu Desktop: 0
[16:05] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://people.canonical.com/~ameetp/BootChart.html
[16:06] <marjo> Maverick Beta Test Report
[16:06] <marjo> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/ReleaseReports/MaverickBetaTestReport
[16:06] <marjo>  * Image Coverage: 50/52 = 96%
[16:06] <marjo>    Uncovered images:
[16:06] <marjo>    * Netboot arm dove
[16:06] <marjo>  * Test Failure Analysis
[16:06] <marjo>  * 22 Test Failures; Failure Rate 22/213 = 10%
[16:07] <marjo> if there are folks out there who can help testing w/ the above uncovered images, we would appreciate your help
[16:07] <marjo> we are always shooting for 100% coverage for images and mandatory test cases
[16:08] <marjo> Unresolved Critical/High Release Targeted Bugs
[16:08] <marjo>     * 625076:checkbox fails to verify ssl validity in data exchange with launchpad.net
[16:08] <marjo>      * cr3 will fix and have merged by end of next week
[16:08] <marjo> that's all folks, skaet
[16:08] <skaet> marjo, seb128,  are the retracers all healthy again?
[16:08] <seb128> yes since yesterday
[16:09] <skaet> :)
[16:09] <seb128> they are catching up on retracing
[16:09]  * ScottK 's inbox has proof.
[16:09]  * skaet wonders what will be in the bug list tomorrow ;)
[16:10] <skaet> [TOPIC] Security team Update
[16:10] <MootBot> New Topic:  Security team Update
[16:10] <jdstrand> hi
[16:10] <skaet> o/
[16:10] <jdstrand> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/ReleaseStatus/Maverick
[16:10] <MootBot> LINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/ReleaseStatus/Maverick
[16:10] <jdstrand> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-security.html
[16:10] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-security.html
[16:10] <jdstrand> Looking at our burdown chart, it shows we are behind, but what is left for us is not tied to the release (eg, wiki documentation, etc). So in that regard, we are good.
[16:10] <jdstrand> We have a few bugs with the apparmor userspace. jjohansen and sbeattie (and others) have worked hard to get an apparmor 2.5.1 release candidate, which is a bugfix only release over our 2.5+patches version in maverick. I plan to upload the 2.5.1 rc version of apparmor userspace today. This is required for maverick to get the userspace tools to work properly with the maverick kernel.
[16:11] <skaet> thanks.
[16:11] <jdstrand> other than that, we don't have much
[16:11] <skaet> any questions for security?
[16:11] <jdstrand> and by 'much' I mean 'nothing' :)
[16:11] <jdstrand> err
[16:11] <jdstrand> 'anything'
[16:11] <skaet> heh
[16:12] <ScottK> In other words lots of free time to help everyone else out.
[16:12] <skaet> [TOPIC] Kernel Team Update
[16:12] <MootBot> New Topic:  Kernel Team Update
[16:12] <jdstrand> ScottK: well, there still are the stable releases we are taking care of ;)
[16:12] <ScottK> Details.
[16:12]  * skaet looks for apw
[16:12] <jdstrand> hehe
[16:13]  * apw appears
[16:13] <apw> Overall status is reported at the first link below.  Burn down for the release is at the second link below.  Burndown for the cycle is at the third link:
[16:13] <apw> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Maverick
[16:13] <apw> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-kernel-team-ubuntu-10.10.html
[16:13] <apw> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-kernel-team.svg
[16:13] <MootBot> LINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Maverick
[16:13] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-kernel-team-ubuntu-10.10.html
[16:13] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-kernel-team.svg
[16:13] <apw> Of the bugs called out in the agenda, there seems to be three bugs were noted under the Kernel Team section in the agenda which are not yet obviously kernel related:
[16:13] <apw> Bug 633392 - There's no evidence in the bug report that this has been confirmed against a Maverick kernel nor that it's even a kernel related issue.  hallyn appears to be assigned to and tracking the bug so we assume he'll ping the kernel team should this indeed be determined as a kernel issue.
[16:13] <apw> Bug 625294 - Filed against syslinux and currently assigned to the Foundations team.
[16:13] <apw> Bug 625110 - Filed against udev, assigned to pitti, and seems to have been Fix Released.
[16:14] <apw> For the remaining bugs, status is as follows:
[16:14] <apw> Bug 615722 - We don't support a fsl-imx51 kernel in Maverick so have asked for clarification from the assigned kernel dev (cooloney).
[16:14] <apw> Bug 628029 - Assigned to kernel dev (lag) and potential fix appears to be coming soon.
[16:14] <apw> Bug 613083 - Assigned to kernel dev (jjohansen) and being investigated.
[16:14] <apw> Bug 606373 - Assigned to kernel dev (jjohansen) and being investigated.
[16:14] <cjwatson> um, yeah, syslinux != linux :)
[16:14] <apw> The remaining bugs are either closed or awaiting confirmation before closing.
[16:14] <apw> As a general status, we're approaching Maverick Kernel Freeze on Sept 16 at which point we will transition to our SRU policy.  ogasawara plans to do our final Maverick kernel uploads on Fri, Sept 17.  Getting any changes applied and uploaded beyond that will be tight as we anticipate the archive freezing approximate 1 week prior to RC, which requires any kernel uploads to happen a few days prior to give enough lead time for builds to complete.  Also,
[16:14] <apw> we remain below the trend line for our overall burn down chart and any remaining work items are not release critical.
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[16:14] <skaet> thanks apw
[16:15] <apw> (ogasawara did the leg work :)
[16:15] <skaet> will make changes to agenda (and sort bugs into right place ...)
[16:15] <skaet> any questions?
[16:16] <skaet> [TOPIC] Foundation team update
[16:16] <MootBot> New Topic:  Foundation team update
[16:16] <cjwatson> Lots of hot bugs fixed over the last week.  There's a respectable number to go, but the numbers are looking good.
[16:16] <cjwatson> We have now confirmed UEFI installations working on an Intel test system, in time to demonstrate it at a show.
[16:16] <cjwatson> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FoundationsTeam/ReleaseStatus/Maverick#RC%20Milestoned%20bugs is up to date.
[16:16] <cjwatson> Most of the bugs are in progress and doing well, or fixed since the agenda was prepared.  We lost some time to fixing regressions that arose when some Launchpad systems were upgraded to Lucid.
[16:16] <cjwatson> Bugs that are of concern:
[16:16] <cjwatson> Bug:459639 - X server starts randomly in failsafe when starting from cold boot
[16:16] <cjwatson>  Looks as though, contrary to previous suggestions, this is not as much to do with GRUB gfxpayload=keep as we thought.  This needs careful analysis by somebody with an affected system.
[16:16] <cjwatson> Bug:553745 - plymouthd crashed with SIGSEGV in ply_event_loop_process_pending_events()
[16:16] <cjwatson>  Nobody is actively working on this, and it's likely to be hard.
[16:16] <cjwatson> Bug:625383 - grub hangs at early booting after handoff from PXE
[16:16] <cjwatson> --
[16:16] <cjwatson>  This looks as though it may be a BIOS bug, and it's not clear what we can do about it.
[16:16] <cjwatson> sigh, wrong format for ubottu, but that's most of what it would have said anyway
[16:17] <cjwatson> I've asked robbiew to ask Keybuk for help on 459639
[16:17] <robbiew> heh
[16:17] <robbiew> and he will send Keybuk a twitter message, as that's apparently the best way to contact him (lol)
[16:17] <skaet> robbiew,   what are the options for 553745?
[16:18] <robbiew> eh...we either fix it or release note it ;)
[16:18] <skaet> heh
[16:18] <robbiew> it's assigned to this slacker...slangsek
[16:18] <robbiew> heh
[16:19] <robbiew> slangasek actually
[16:19] <cjwatson> I'd volunteer, but I already have something to do with half the bugs on our list
[16:19] <ttx> cjwatson: + half the bugs in others lists :)
[16:20] <skaet> indeed,  have been seeing all the closures.  Thanks.
[16:20] <robbiew> I can talk to Keybuk about it
[16:20] <robbiew> see if he can help
[16:20] <skaet> thanks.
[16:20] <skaet> any other questions?
[16:21] <skaet> [TOPIC] Server team update
[16:21] <MootBot> New Topic:  Server team update
[16:21] <ttx> o/
[16:21] <skaet> o/
[16:21] <ttx> Our status updated at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/MaverickReleaseStatus
[16:21] <ttx> Release-milestoned bugs:
[16:21] <ttx> Bug 617053 - on upgrade from 1.6.2, euca_upgrade should preserve DISABLE_ISCSI="Y" (Daviey): fixed?
[16:22] <ttx> I thin kthis one is fixed by the very recent euca upload
[16:22] <ttx> Bug 623609 - grub-pc needs some help in uec instances (smoser): in progress
[16:22] <ttx> this one is one of "those" that may need some cjwatson help
[16:22] <ttx> I think the discussion is already ongoing between smoser and colin
[16:22] <ttx> Bug 632696 - libvirt won't start a VM with serial or console when apparmor is enabled (jdstrand): in progress
[16:22] <ttx> Other Critical/High Maverick bugs:
[16:23] <ttx> Bug 620441 - MySQL upstart stop job does not cleanly shutdown mysql (SpamapS): pending upload
[16:23] <ttx> #
[16:23] <ttx> Bug 628055 - Instances don't start correctly: Security Labeling error running aa_change_profile (Daviey): more investigation needed
[16:23] <cjwatson> yep, working on 623609 right now
[16:23] <cjwatson> (belatedly)
[16:23] <ttx> Bug 582963 - apache2 SSL pass phrase dialog can't read input (zul): more investigation needed
[16:23] <ttx> I'll let the reader look into the report for the other "targets of opportunity"... two remarks:
[16:23] <ttx> Bug 599342 (listed on your agenda list)
[16:24] <ttx> is pending fix confirmation from OP, we might just upload it
[16:24] <ttx> Bug 634102
[16:24] <ttx> I might target this one to release, given the sudden popularity of this new instance type
[16:24] <ttx> On the specs side...
[16:24] <ttx> Outdated burn-UP chart available at http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-server-ubuntu-10.10.html
[16:25] <ttx> we closed quite a few items in the last hours, not refreshed yet, so we are on track
[16:25] <ttx> All specs are disconnected fro mrelease anyway
[16:25] <ttx> Essential/High/Medium specs < 25% completion:
[16:25] <ttx> server-maverick-hadoop-pig (20%)
[16:25] <ttx> server-maverick-uds-seed-review (0%)
[16:25] <ttx> server-maverick-cloud-images-sans-cloud (0%)
[16:25] <ttx> server-maverick-workitemtracker (0%)
[16:26] <ttx> That's all from me, questions ?
[16:26] <skaet> Thanks ttx  :)
[16:27] <skaet> [TOPIC] Desktop team update
[16:27] <MootBot> New Topic:  Desktop team update
[16:27] <seb128> hey
[16:27] <seb128> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/ReleaseStatus
[16:27] <seb128> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-desktop-team.html
[16:27] <seb128> .
[16:27] <MootBot> LINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/ReleaseStatus
[16:27] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-desktop-team.html
[16:27] <seb128> Work items summary: We are on track for maverick, most of the items remaining on the chart are testsuite or bug workflow ones
[16:27] <seb128> Week work summary:
[16:27] <seb128>     * Unity got updated to a new version
[16:27] <seb128>     * Lot of bugs have been fixed otherwise
[16:27] <seb128>  
[16:27] <seb128> Notes:
[16:27] <seb128> * GNOME 2.31.92 tarballs are on monday
[16:27] <seb128> * GNOME 2.32 is two weeks after that
[16:27] <seb128> * we might have another gobject-introspection abi change and transition (nothing use those really yet but that would mean rebuilding the rdepends) next week
[16:28] <seb128>  
[16:28] <seb128> Bugs:
[16:28] <seb128> bug #628077: intel driver issue with a patch available in ppa, still need to be uploaded
[16:28] <seb128> bug #615549: needs tweaking in the upstart script still under work to determine which one
[16:28] <seb128> bug #610600: the issue is being investigated and discussed with upstream, it's better in maverick but we don't really have the competence in the team to work on it directly
[16:28] <seb128> bug #606706: bug assigned to pitti who will be back next week
[16:28] <seb128> bug #602899: bug assigned to our xorg maintainer who thinks it might be fixed in the current version, needs confirmation from the submitter
[16:28] <seb128> bug #522538: bug assigned to the gwibber maintainer for investigation
[16:28] <seb128> bug #329898: interaction in some locales with ibus issue, needs to be confirmed on maverick still
[16:29] <seb128> bug #575160: universe package, bug assigned to a community member
[16:29] <seb128>  
[16:29] <seb128> that's it
[16:29] <seb128> oh, and we have some holidays coming in the team
[16:29] <seb128> but others should be able to cover
[16:30] <seb128> we are just low on GNOME maintainers for 10 days
[16:30] <skaet> cool.
[16:30] <seb128> but I will be back for 2.32
[16:30] <seb128> that's it from me
[16:30]  * doko grumbles about the non-working xvfb
[16:30] <seb128> questions?
[16:30] <skaet> thanks seb128,  questions?
[16:31] <skaet> [TOPIC] Ubuntu One Team
[16:31] <MootBot> New Topic:  Ubuntu One Team
[16:31]  * skaet looks for joshuahoover
[16:31] <joshuahoover> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/MaverickReleaseStatus
[16:31] <joshuahoover> hi! the list of high/critical u1 bugs are found on that release status page i posted
[16:31] <MootBot> LINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/MaverickReleaseStatus
[16:31] <joshuahoover> the good news is that ubuntu one sso should now be working and this includes working with the u1 music store and tomboy
[16:32] <joshuahoover> we also have a desktopcouch package being released today that will fix some issues with couchdb pairing (for syncing couchdb) and making u1 preferences display account/devices info
[16:32] <joshuahoover> a couple bugs that are in question...
[16:32] <joshuahoover> bug #617656 is at risk of not making final freeze...it does not appear to affect everyone but we need to get it fixed...just taking a while to troubleshoot
[16:32] <joshuahoover> bug #565648 we're no longer able to reproduce...unless we hear otherwise, we're going to consider this fixed or invalid...we'll give it through the rest of today to hear back.
[16:32] <joshuahoover> the rest of the bugs we have targeted for maverick we feel good about getting done and packaged up wednesday (15th)
[16:32] <skaet> :)
[16:32] <joshuahoover> any questions?
[16:33] <skaet> thanks joshuahoover
[16:33] <skaet> [TOPIC] Kubuntu team update
[16:33] <MootBot> New Topic:  Kubuntu team update
[16:33] <ScottK> Things for Kubuntu are in pretty good shape if we get the new Mesa.  New Ubiquity cleared up the most serious installer issues from beta.  We have quite a number of final package updates to do for next week, so it will be busy.
[16:34] <ScottK> If we don't get the new Mesa, then we get to have Kwin upstream write us patches he can't test due to lack of hardware and hope for the best.
[16:34]  * skaet keeping fingers crossed for Mesa then...
[16:34] <ScottK> seb128: I still get the X crash on logout with KDM, so 628077 is not fixed.
[16:34] <Riddell> yes more testing of ubiquity needed but I think it'll be fine.  kubuntu-mobile should have working images today for the first time although that needs more testing too of course
[16:35] <ScottK> Oh, you're here.
[16:35] <Riddell> briefly :)
[16:35] <rickspencer3> ScottK, Riddell is it possible to find someone with the hardware so they can turn around the testing for you in a reasonable time?
[16:35] <Riddell> we're mostly good on ARM builds too, just KOffice being a pain
[16:35] <seb128> ScottK, the comment on the bug said you tested the ppa and it worked, can you update the bug?
[16:36] <ScottK> seb128: The PPA isn't what was uploaded to the archive.  I'll comment in the bug.
[16:37] <Riddell> I expect to get final Qt tars on the 16th, which is cutting it close to final freeze, and even that's not guaranteed
[16:37] <seb128> ScottK, "intel driver issue with a patch available in ppa, still need to be uploaded " was my summary
[16:37] <Riddell> but we can take a git snapshot if nothing else, they're in deep freeze too and it's just symbian bugs they're blocking on
[16:37] <seb128> ScottK, is the ppa change working or not? if it is it's just a matter of getting it uploaded, thanks
[16:37] <ScottK> seb128: Oh.  Missed that.
[16:37] <ScottK> I'll check.
[16:37] <seb128> thanks
[16:38] <skaet> any other questions for ScottK,  Riddell?
[16:39] <skaet> thanks ScottK,  looks like a full plate for next week.
[16:39] <skaet> [TOPIC] Desktop experience team update
[16:39] <MootBot> New Topic:  Desktop experience team update
[16:39] <davidbarth> hi
[16:40] <skaet> hi
[16:40] <davidbarth> usual report at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopExperienceTeam/MaverickReleaseStatus
[16:40] <davidbarth> this week i actually added a status for all the bugs mentioned in the release agenda
[16:40] <davidbarth> for a change ;)
[16:40] <davidbarth> the good news is: we've got all of our annoying desktop bugs sorted
[16:40] <skaet> cool.   will bring it up and look after the meeting.
[16:40] <davidbarth> see the top of the report, appmenu is now on the safer side of things
[16:41] <davidbarth> unity gets some nice fixes, including I18N ones and XDG for the plaform to finalize the integration
[16:41] <davidbarth> bad news: tons of leaks and rendering artifacts we're chasing for 4 days
[16:41] <skaet> :(
[16:43] <skaet> any questions?
[16:43] <skaet> thanks davidbarth
[16:43] <skaet> [TOPIC] Arm team update
[16:43] <MootBot> New Topic:  Arm team update
[16:44] <YianPan71> kalhspera sas  :))
[16:44] <cjwatson> YianPan71: we're in the middle of a meeting
[16:44] <YianPan71> no word hellenika??
[16:44]  * ogra waves
[16:44]  * skaet looks for ogra?
[16:45] <skaet> heh
[16:45] <ogra> sorry just coming out of a call
[16:45] <cjwatson> YianPan71: not in this channel
[16:45] <ogra> Full status is at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARMTeam/ReleaseStatus/Maverick
[16:45] <ogra> ...
[16:45] <ogra> Short summary
[16:45] <ogra>  * work was done to move the omap4 images over to the new hardware (ES2.0) release.
[16:45] <ogra>  * Image changes were made to support the full amount of 1 gigabyte of ram on the pandaboard now (which resulted indeed in additional bugs like LP 633227)
[16:45] <ogra>  * nearly all graphics issues with HDMI on the pandaboard were solved in cooperation with TI
[16:45] <YianPan71> ok
[16:45] <ogra>  * plenty XM bugs were fixed that enabled our omap3 images on the XM board
[16:45] <ogra>  * the FTBFS list on http://qa.ubuntuwire.org/ftbfs is largely empty for main (armel)
[16:45] <ogra>  * a critical bug with the buildd kernels (bug 605042) was found by linaro, we are still investigating how to solve it.
[16:45] <ogra>  * dove images were improved further
[16:45] <ogra>  * missing kernel headers for omap4 were added to the images which exposed a bug in the linux-ti-omap4 (thanks to apw for tireless work to fix it ... you rock !!!)
[16:45] <ogra> ...
[16:45] <ogra> Image Status
[16:45] <ogra>  * omap4 images are switched to the ES2.0 HW release, omap3 images work fully on the beagle XM board now.
[16:45] <ogra> ...
[16:45] <ogra> Specs
[16:45] <ogra> Implemented:
[16:45] <ogra>  * UbuntuSpec:preinstalled-sd-card-images-for-omap
[16:45] <ogra>  * UbuntuSpec:mobile-m-image-builds-without-root
[16:45] <ogra> ...
[16:45] <ogra> Still in progress:
[16:45] <ogra> ...
[16:45] <ogra>  * UbuntuSpec:mobile-maverick-arm-improved-subarch-detection
[16:45] <ogra>  * UbuntuSpec:mobile-m-omap-edid-autodetection
[16:45] <ogra> ...
[16:45] <ogra> Dropped:
[16:45] <ogra> ...
[16:46] <ogra>  * UbuntuSpec:mobile-m-lightweight-panel-for-efl
[16:46] <ogra> ...
[16:46] <ogra> Progress:
[16:46] <ogra>  * Entire http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-mobile.html
[16:46] <ogra>  * Beta: http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-mobile-ubuntu-10.10-beta.html
[16:46] <ogra> ...
[16:46] <ogra> Blocker Bugs:
[16:46] <ogra>  * Bug:633227: OMAP4 board instabilities with highmem activated
[16:46] <ogra> ...
[16:46] <ogra> Expected serious impact for final release
[16:46] <ogra>  * We will get the final hardware for OAMP4 only very late in september or even in early october, it might be necessary that the OMAP4 image release gets delayed
[16:46] <ogra>  * The above will also likely require late kernel and bootloader package changes and uploads to the archive. since the Hardware does not exist yet it is unprdictable in which amount the impact is.
[16:46] <ogra> the eglibc bug is actually a kernel bug on our buildds ... sadly our imx51 kernel maintiner is fully tied up in omap4 work :/
[16:47] <ogra> we are talking to linaro if it is possible to use their upstream kernel on the buildds but thats indeed a bit dangerous (untested etc)
[16:49] <ogra> i cant say much about the ES2.1 (which is the final) omap4 hardware yet, but we are using linaros u-boot bootloader package and might require a very  late update here
[16:49] <ogra> all other impacted packages are solely ubuntu arm stuff and will not have any impact on other teams
[16:49] <ogra> (thats all from me ... )
[16:49] <skaet> definitely worrisome about the OMAP4 hardware...   will keep it on the "to watch closely" list.
[16:49] <skaet> thanks ogra
[16:50] <skaet> any questions?
[16:50] <ogra> oh, we are regulary building kubuntu omap3 images now ...
[16:50] <skaet> [TOPIC] MOTU team update
[16:50] <MootBot> New Topic:  MOTU team update
[16:50] <ogra> (sorry for missing that(
[16:50] <skaet> np
[16:51] <ScottK> Hello
[16:51]  * skaet waves
[16:51] <ScottK> Concerned about the number of FTBFS and the amount of NBS work left undone.
[16:52] <ScottK> FTBFS is about double what it is on Lucid (for the archs we still have)
[16:52] <ScottK> NBS list is not short.
[16:52] <ScottK> If anyone has people with spare time, these can use help.
[16:52]  * iulian nods.
[16:52] <doko> ScottK: is this from the lucas list?
[16:53] <ScottK> doko: I'm just looking at the qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs list.  Stuff that's actually FTBFS in the archive.
[16:53] <ScottK> lucas' list will have other stuff, not all is really a problem.
[16:53] <cjwatson> the NBS list is http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/NBS/
[16:53] <cjwatson> anything with file size 0 there is ready for removal and doesn't need to be worried about
[16:54]  * ScottK blames slangasek for getting a new job where he has to do real work and can't work on NBS.
[16:54] <ScottK> (he and pitti have often done a lot of this kind of thing in previous cycles)
[16:55] <skaet> thanks for the context.  :)
[16:56] <skaet> so its a gap.   Will dig into it a bit.
[16:56] <skaet> any other questions for ScottK?
[16:56] <ScottK> iulian: Feel free to jump in if I missed anything.
[16:56] <iulian> ScottK: Nop, I don't think you've missed something.
[16:57] <ScottK> OK.
[16:57] <skaet> thanks ScottK, iulian
[16:57] <skaet> [TOPIC] Linaro team update
[16:57] <MootBot> New Topic:  Linaro team update
[16:57] <cjwatson> right.  I do the auto NBS removals fairly frequently, but haven't had much time to dig into non-trivial things
[16:58]  * skaet looks for JamieBennett
[16:58] <JamieBennett> skaet: ah sorry, just out of a meeting :(
[16:58] <skaet> np,  any updates?
[16:58] <ScottK> iulian: Could you send mail to the MOTU list asking people to look at FTBFS/NBS?
[16:59] <JamieBennett> skaet: Nothing much release related to report apart from one FFe that just got approved for cross compiler packages. Other than that we have bugs that we are working on that won't effect the release
[16:59] <iulian> ScottK: Sure, I can do that later on.
[16:59] <ScottK> Thanks.
[17:00] <JamieBennett> skaet: more info on the bugs we are tracking at https://wiki.linaro.org/Releases/WeeklyReleaseMeeting/2010-09-09
[17:00] <JamieBennett> skaet: EOF
[17:00] <skaet> Thanks JamieBennett.
[17:00] <skaet> questions?
[17:01] <skaet> [TOPIC] 10.4.2 LTS Update
[17:01] <MootBot> New Topic:  10.4.2 LTS Update
[17:02] <skaet> this needs a bit of focus...   will discuss further with Robbiew.
[17:02] <skaet> [TOPIC]  Any other comments/questions/etc.?
[17:02] <MootBot> New Topic:   Any other comments/questions/etc.?
[17:03]  * skaet looks around,   maybe this will be a short meeting?
[17:03] <doko> wait ...
[17:04] <doko> the last merge from the linaro gcc is now in place. I plan to make no-change uploads next weeks for package which land on the CD and which were not recently rebuilt
[17:04] <doko> starting on Monday
[17:05] <ScottK> Do you have a list?
[17:06] <doko> not yet
[17:08] <skaet> anything else?
[17:08] <robbiew> 4 weeks to Maverick...yeehaw!
[17:08] <skaet> :)
[17:09]  * robbiew had too much coffee this morning...heh
[17:09]  * skaet laying in the coffee supplies for next week.
[17:09] <skaet> thanks everyone.  :)
[17:09] <marjo> skaet: thx!
[17:09] <skaet> #endmeeting
[17:09] <MootBot> Meeting finished at 11:09.
[17:13] <seb128> thanks