| * RainCT looks at ~ubuntu-sponsors and can't believe it's empty (ignoring stuff from main) | 01:24 | |
| jdong | Mem: 49562228k total, 2267556k used, 47294672k free, 301336k buffers | 01:41 |
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| jdong | now THAT'S a computer! | 01:41 |
| ajmitch | needs more RAM | 01:42 |
| jdong | not enough slots! | 01:43 |
| ajmitch | Mem: 48952 45839 3112 0 6227 31635 | 01:43 |
| ajmitch | pity that one will be disappearing | 01:44 |
| G | jdong: nah, you need an IBM x3950 :) | 02:17 |
| G | jdong: 32 cores per 'node' (up to 4 nodes), and looks like now 1TB RAM per node | 02:18 |
| === lfaraone_ is now known as lfaraone | ||
| jdong | G: Now that would be awesome; in this case these machines were generously donated by Dell+Intel to MIT CSAIL for a class on performance engineering | 03:12 |
| G | jdong: nice | 03:13 |
| G | the funny thing was logging into an 3950m2 (4 nodes, 96CPUs etc) it still seemed quite sluggish :P | 03:14 |
| jdong | eh more CPU's doesn't necessarily mean faster :) | 03:16 |
| bilalakhtar | nigelb: What about behind the circle? | 05:56 |
| MTecknology | What would it take for nginx to be in main? | 06:02 |
| MTecknology | I'm very surprised it's not actually.. | 06:05 |
| Azendale | I have a PPA package in a bzr branch that is all ready to have debuild -S run on it so I can send it to my ppa, except that I don't have a .orig.tar.gz since I'm using bzr to keep track of changes. How can I get it into the PPA to build? | 06:08 |
| MTecknology | Azendale: doesn't it ask you if you want to continue without it? | 06:09 |
| MTecknology | I always use debuild -S -sa, not sure if that -sa could help any | 06:09 |
| Azendale | MTecknology: Yes, it asks, but it has errors later. I'll try it again and report back with the error. | 06:10 |
| lifeless | Azendale: bzr export ../<name>.tar.gz | 06:10 |
| MTecknology | lifeless: You should teach me all that you know.. | 06:10 |
| bilalakhtar | MTecknology: nginx is too lintian-error filled | 06:12 |
| bilalakhtar | (from what I have seen) | 06:13 |
| Azendale | I tried the bzr export and I got the error "debian/rules:6: /usr/share/cdbs/1/rules/autoreconf.mk: No such file or directory" , which is what I was getting before, so maybe it's not the bzr? | 06:13 |
| bilalakhtar | Azendale: Do you have cdbs installed? | 06:13 |
| Azendale | bilalakhtar: Yes, it says it's the newest version | 06:14 |
| bilalakhtar | Azendale: Do you have dh-autoreconf installed? | 06:14 |
| Azendale | bilalakhtar: I didn't..let me try it again now | 06:15 |
| Azendale | Ok, that helped. Now it's complaining about not being able to represent binary changes to various files in .bzr . | 06:19 |
| MTecknology | bilalakhtar: and if all the errors were to go away and the package was clean? | 06:22 |
| bilalakhtar | MTecknology: then file an MIR | 06:23 |
| MTecknology | bilalakhtar: thanks | 06:23 |
| bilalakhtar | MTecknology: bug #547267 | 06:26 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 547267 in nginx (Ubuntu) "nginx should not install into /var/www/nginx-default (Debian policy)" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/547267 | 06:26 |
| fabrice_sp | Azendale, delete them in the clean target | 06:26 |
| Azendale | fabrice_sp: Ok, thanks for the advice. | 06:28 |
| MTecknology | bilalakhtar: thanks :D | 06:28 |
| persia | MTecknology, Moving a package to main requires another package in main to depend upon it. While it once meant something, in practice, there is no currently useful semantic distinction between "main" and "universe". | 06:37 |
| MTecknology | persia: except what I was told by lifeless | 06:38 |
| persia | bilalakhtar, Being incredibly buggy, without an upstream, and in violation of policy has never been a limitation for stuff being in main previously. Having lintian errors is really completely separate from main/universe | 06:38 |
| persia | MTecknology, Which distinction would that be? | 06:39 |
| bilalakhtar | persia: yup | 06:39 |
| bilalakhtar | persia: well, this is a lintian Error | 06:39 |
| MTecknology | persia: He said if it were in main there would be consideration for it to be used with LP instead of Apache | 06:40 |
| persia | bilalakhtar, Indeed, it's an error, and it probably ought get fixed. This just doesn't happen to be related to the main/universe thing in any useful way. | 06:40 |
| MTecknology | along with a patch for converting, and benchmarks, and a good reason for it | 06:40 |
| persia | MTecknology, That's lifeless needing to do research then. There's heaps of stuff used in LP that aren't in main (or at least have often been historically). | 06:40 |
| persia | Simply moving something to main shouldn't be part of the consideration. | 06:41 |
| MTecknology | oh | 06:41 |
| persia | That it's buggy makes it not good for LP. | 06:41 |
| MTecknology | ya.. I'm going to work on that | 06:41 |
| MTecknology | at least I don't need to knwo C for that :P | 06:42 |
| MTecknology | persia: I've been working on the PPA version of nginx actually - in my companies PPA it's almost entirely lintain clean - but it's also stripped down to nothing. I'm figuring I should be able to help out pretty well here :) | 06:47 |
| persia | Making things less buggy is good :) | 06:47 |
| MTecknology | ok.. nappy time - g'night ubuntu brainiacs :) | 06:48 |
| Rhonda | Ah, right, was RainCT for revu, should've remembered that. | 07:52 |
| ajmitch | Rhonda: don't worry, there are a few people who still try & keep revu alive :) | 07:57 |
| Rhonda | I never claimed otherwise. | 07:58 |
| Rhonda | I just wasn't able to remember who mentioned that he was getting source v3 supported, otherwise I would have bugged him directly for lintian update. :) | 07:58 |
| ajmitch | that was probably me :P | 07:59 |
| ajmitch | just took a dpkg backport, grabbed the one from the ~launchpad ppa | 08:02 |
| Rhonda | huhm | 08:02 |
| Rhonda | ajmitch? Can you take a look at something that might be a consider in the revu web interface? | 08:02 |
| Rhonda | ajmitch: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?upid=8603 - when I click on "(toggle visibility)" below the graph, the feature list doesn't get hidden. :) | 08:03 |
| Rhonda | That's because <ul> can't be embedded inside a <p> | 08:03 |
| Rhonda | And thus the <ul> doesn't have the id="description" attached to it. | 08:04 |
| ajmitch | amusing bug | 08:04 |
| ajmitch | let me take a look at it | 08:04 |
| Rhonda | I *think* a <span> or <div> around the complete description might make sense. | 08:04 |
| ajmitch | <div>, yeah | 08:04 |
| Rhonda | And the </p> at the end of the description (after the </ul>) is b0rked anyway. :) | 08:04 |
| Rhonda | Also, I see a <br style="clear: both;"/ after that which is missing its > | 08:05 |
| * ajmitch waits very very patiently for bzr | 08:05 | |
| * Rhonda . o O ( that's why I prefer git *hides* ) | 08:05 | |
| ajmitch | git can't fix a slow internet connection any more than bzr can :) | 08:06 |
| ajmitch | Rhonda: toggle works now? | 08:46 |
| Rhonda | If it does for you I wouldn't know why it shouldn't for me. :) Thanks! | 08:48 |
| ajmitch | well you never know, especially with the evils of html ;) | 08:51 |
| ajmitch | I'll probably break it again while I put the fix on properly | 08:52 |
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| nigelb | bilalakhtar: pong? | 12:08 |
| bilalakhtar | nigelb: yup, repoly after a loooooooooong ping | 12:08 |
| bilalakhtar | nigelb: Howz behindthecircle? | 12:08 |
| * nigelb is on vacation | 12:08 | |
| nigelb | (technically) | 12:08 |
| bilalakhtar | nigelb: ah, but I was asking, Why haven't there been more interviews? | 12:09 |
| nigelb | bilalakhtar: I just finished updating the list of devs last week | 12:09 |
| nigelb | Now maia and I need to find time to get together and proof the questionss and shortlist and do the interviews! | 12:09 |
| * lucidfox nodnod | 12:09 | |
| nigelb | this will probably happen some time this week :) | 12:09 |
| lucidfox | Indeed! | 12:10 |
| * nigelb hi fives lucidfox :) | 12:10 | |
| bilalakhtar | What about dholbach? | 12:10 |
| nigelb | He's in Iran | 12:10 |
| bilalakhtar | lol | 12:10 |
| bilalakhtar | I mean, is he blogging for it? | 12:10 |
| nigelb | No, since he didn't want the time he asked for volunteers, me, lucidfox, and bobbo took over | 12:11 |
| lucidfox | I actually haven't heard anything from bobbo | 12:11 |
| nigelb | neither have I | 12:11 |
| nigelb | BUt he has volunteered to help, probably busy for now | 12:11 |
| bilalakhtar | lucidfox: You were interviewed the last :) And now YOU can interview! | 12:12 |
| nigelb | bilalakhtar: actually, when she was interviewed, we had already volunteered to help :) | 12:13 |
| bilalakhtar | nigelb: You also wish to become MOTU, right? | 12:14 |
| nigelb | bilalakhtar: I don't have the time for it at present, as is evidenced my packaging work this cycle (nothing!), so perhaps next cycle. | 12:15 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: quick question on SRU, do i file a new bug for SRU? or can i just update that bug with new info? | 13:44 |
| yofel | just use that bug for the SRU | 13:44 |
| shadeslayer | alrighty | 13:44 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: i cant seem to be able to nominate it for lucid | 13:47 |
| yofel | you opened the wrong link, use https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/desktopcouch/+bug/565376 | 13:47 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 565376 in desktopcouch "bughugger does not work in kubuntu lucid" [Undecided,In progress] | 13:48 |
| yofel | LP is a bit tricky there | 13:48 |
| shadeslayer | oh :D | 13:49 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: whom do i subscribe to the bug report? wiki doesnt say anything | 13:53 |
| shadeslayer | wait.. found it | 13:53 |
| shadeslayer | ok everything done... just wait for lp to build package in my ppa now ;) | 13:53 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: subscribe ubuntu-sponsors too, SRUs are now uploaded as soon as possible so the SRU team only needs to ack it | 13:55 |
| shadeslayer | ok | 13:55 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: i think everything is set, do you see any issues? | 13:57 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: checking | 13:58 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: about that debdiff, it has to be for lucid-proposed and not for lucid, and about the version.. I'm not sure but it might have to be 3.1 not 4 | 14:01 |
| shadeslayer | hmm.. i think your right .. | 14:02 |
| === ivoks-afk is now known as ivoks | ||
| shadeslayer | yofel: done :) | 14:07 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: that should still be desktopcouch (0.6.4-0ubuntu3.1) lucid-proposed; urgency=low | 14:08 |
| shadeslayer | ohh.. the release.. | 14:08 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/491575/ | 14:10 |
| yofel | that looks right | 14:10 |
| AnAnt | Hello | 16:42 |
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| alkisg | Hi, I'd like to try packaging an edu app (http://www.chemcollective.org/applets/vlab.php), can someone point me to a simple package that contains java .jar files to use as a template? | 18:57 |
| alkisg | (maybe debhelper 7, not cdbs...) | 18:57 |
| Rhonda | The package contains .jar files? You would need to generate them from source code, not just use the existing .jar files. | 19:00 |
| hrw|gone | morning | 19:01 |
| * hrw|gone will lurk during weekend here to check what is discussed here. in next 2 weeks I plan to start procedure of becoming ubuntu developer. currently there are no packages in archive which I maintain, but there are two which I maintained in past, also submitted lot of improvements to few core components (gcc/eglibc/binutils/linux) and 3 my packages are on a way to maverick (got FFe for them today). | 19:04 | |
| kklimonda | hrw|gone: evening, feel free to lurk around :) | 19:11 |
| hrw|gone | kklimonda: I have a feeling that we met in person years ago | 19:11 |
| hrw|gone | have to go now | 19:11 |
| hrw|gone | bye | 19:11 |
| kklimonda | nah, impossible | 19:12 |
| hrw|gone | ok | 19:12 |
| === ivoks is now known as ivoks-afk | ||
| alkisg | Hmmm weird, I can't find the sources for that java edu app, so I guess I'll have to make a binary deb for local use... thanks Rhonda :) | 19:20 |
| Rhonda | np :) | 19:24 |
| ari-tczew | Rhonda: what is wrong with copyright file? | 19:32 |
| ari-tczew | (clementine) | 19:32 |
| Rhonda | I did write that, didn't I? | 19:34 |
| Rhonda | You don't want to claim that debian/* is copyright by David Sansome and is licensed under GPL-3, do you? :) | 19:35 |
| Rhonda | And shouldn't the license text be mentioned at least once? | 19:36 |
| Rhonda | There is not a single license text in there? | 19:37 |
| ari-tczew | Rhonda: I wouldn't be responsible to copyright file, because David is an author of this one. | 19:38 |
| Rhonda | Pardon? | 19:39 |
| ari-tczew | davidsansome: ping | 19:41 |
| * davidsansome waves | 19:41 | |
| Rhonda | Ah. | 19:42 |
| Rhonda | davidsansome: You wrote the debian/* files, too? | 19:42 |
| davidsansome | I wrote the original ones, ari-tczew has tweaked them a bit | 19:42 |
| Rhonda | Anyway, the copyright files are still missing the license text, at least once for each recurring license. | 19:42 |
| Rhonda | Then that copyright information is missing. It's not totally wrong to not specifically mention Files: debian/* - but it's extremely uncommon, thus my comment in REVU about it. | 19:43 |
| davidsansome | ah ok, I assumed the common licenses didn't need the full text copied and pasted in | 19:44 |
| Rhonda | Not the full. | 19:44 |
| ari-tczew | davidsansome: the files are there: https://code.launchpad.net/~ari-tczew/clementine/REVU | 19:44 |
| Rhonda | But GPL insists on a specific part to be copied nevertheless, and BSD isn't that "common" anyway because people seldomly are that specific university. | 19:45 |
| Rhonda | And I'm not too sure what the last decisions with respect to Public Domain is | 19:46 |
| davidsansome | right, I'll fix those two issues upstream, then ari-tczew if you want to merge my changes into your bzr repo? | 19:46 |
| ari-tczew | davidsansome: of course I'll update branch ASAP. btw. you can request a merge to my branch referring to debian/copyright and not only. :) | 19:47 |
| ari-tczew | from this branch I'm creating a package for REVU. i | 19:47 |
| Rhonda | ari-tczew: See the "xsol" example in the svn link you have in the first line of the copyright file - it has the required GPL excerpt. | 19:49 |
| ari-tczew | Rhonda: are you reffering to: http://paste.ubuntu.com/491744/ ? | 19:52 |
| Rhonda | ari-tczew: http://dep.debian.net/deps/dep5/ and scroll to "Examples in pseudo-RFC-822 format", both the Simple and the Complex mention both debian/* but also for GPL-2+ the license text. | 19:59 |
| ari-tczew | davidsansome: ^ go ahead mate :) | 20:00 |
| davidsansome | working on it :) | 20:00 |
| davidsansome | Rhonda: how's this: http://code.google.com/p/clementine-player/source/browse/trunk/debian/copyright ? I've added text to each one, and a debian/* section | 20:02 |
| Rhonda | davidsansome: You need to add the text only once for each license, no need to repeat it. :) | 20:03 |
| davidsansome | ok :) do I need to put "See above" or anything, or can I assume people are smart enough to figure it out? :) | 20:03 |
| Rhonda | So one GPL-3, one GPL-2+, one BSD, … | 20:04 |
| Rhonda | No need for see above or anything from what I understood. | 20:04 |
| Rhonda | The License: GPL-3 line is meant to be enough reference for the linkage. | 20:05 |
| davidsansome | gotcha | 20:05 |
| Rhonda | No clue how the dep5 wants to have the "License: Qt Commercial or LGPL-2.1 or GPL-3" part expanded - you need to ask someone who has more insight into that, I'm not that big fan of that format | 20:07 |
| ari-tczew | Rhonda: could you check whether current version is correct? @google code | 20:08 |
| Rhonda | ari-tczew: Looks more appropriate, but like said, I'm neither an expert on dep5 nor too fond of it. | 20:15 |
| ari-tczew | Rhonda, davidsansome: ok, I'm merging into bzr | 20:16 |
| davidsansome | cool thanks | 20:16 |
| ari-tczew | ScottK: what do you think, is it benefit to merge kolabd from debian unstable? | 21:20 |
| ari-tczew | Rhonda: around? | 21:57 |
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