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manusheelmukul: Hi Mukul.16:27
mukulmanusheel sir: hi16:27
manusheelmukul: So, the metacity fix is a temporary fix according to Silbe, Bernie and the GNOME lead.16:29
dfarningmukul, but the upstream metacity is interested in it:)16:29
mukulmanusheel sir: As far as I remember ,Yes. I am searching for link.16:29
manusheelmukul: Sure, definitely.16:30
manusheelmukul: What is the bug number of this issue at the gnome bug tracker?16:35
mukulmanusheel sir: 62921016:36
manusheelmukul: Can you send me the link?16:36
mukulmanusheel sir: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62921016:38
ubot2Gnome bug 629210 in general "Enable Alt+Tab keybindings in metacity" [Normal,Unconfirmed]16:38
mukulmanusheel, dfarning : http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2010-September/026560.html16:39
manusheelmukul: Thanks Mukul16:41
mukulmanusheel sir: In the bugs posted by me at gnome.bugzilla as well as LP, I wrote 'sugar distro' and not sugar emulator. Does that create a confusion?16:42
manusheelmukul: You can edit it and say Sugar emulator.16:42
manusheelmukul: Distros are Fedora, Debian, Ubuntu...16:42
manusheelkandarpk: Hi Kandarp.16:43
manusheelkandarpk: Finally, the net connection issue got solved :-) Great.16:44
kandarpkmanusheel sir, :)16:44
mukulmanusheel sir: Since it is a temporary fix, we will have to let the maintainer know about it.16:45
manusheelmukul: Yes, surely.16:46
manusheelmukul: Let us reply to Tomeu and link this thread with it.16:46
kandarpkmanusheel sir: I added the following two lines16:46
kandarpk    from sugar.graphics.style import ZOOM_FACTOR16:46
kandarpk            self.scale = 1.0 * ZOOM_FACTOR16:46
manusheelkandarpk: There is also one more statement, where we have a value of 0.6716:48
manusheelkandarpk: I think it is on the top of it.16:48
quidamhi, I'm trying to make a sugar loaded Trisquel 4 (lucid based) demo image16:48
quidambut I'm having some problems16:49
kandarpkmanusheel sir: yes, do we need to make only these changes ?16:49
alsrootdfarning: ^^, what the current status of sugar package in lucid?16:49
manusheelkandarpk: There are 4 changes in all as I see.16:49
dfarningquidam, I suggest that you skip lucid and jump straight to maverick.  You and you users will be disapointed in the experince on lucid based distros.16:51
manusheelkandarpk: two related to self.scale16:52
quidamdfarning: well, we can't do that, it is an LTS16:52
manusheelkandarpk: self.scale = 1.0 * ZOOM_FACTOR16:52
manusheelkandarpk: self.scale = 0.67 * ZOOM_FACTOR16:52
manusheelkandarpk: Two related to block_scale and self.bloc_scale16:53
dfarningquidam, then your best bet is to backport the maverick packages to lucid.  I wish I had a better answer.16:53
quidamdfarning: also, we've been getting very good impressions from users so far, we do not try to replicate ubuntu's defaults16:53
alsrootquidam, dfarning: I'm hope to setup bazaar.sl.o this week and will start sucrose packaging on it, will start w/ lucid16:54
dfarningalsroot, nice.16:54
quidamdfarning: well, for now it would be enough for me to be able to include the basic stuff, like the browser16:55
quidamI used ubuntu packages and the sugar-remix ppa, no luck16:55
dfarningquidam, browse is a blocker.16:55
quidamoh, ok16:56
quidamdo you think karmic packages could work?16:56
kandarpkmanusheel sir: TA uses16:56
kandarpkself.block_scale = BLOCK_SCALE16:56
dfarningquidam, the necessary support for xulrunner is not available in lucid.  we are acctually going to ship firefox as the default browser for sugar on maverick:(16:57
manusheelkandarpk: It should become self.block_scale = BLOCK_SCALE*ZOOM_FACTOR16:57
kandarpkmanusheel sir: OK16:57
dfarningquidam, browse was oneof the causualities of a shift in focus at ubuntu from xulrunner to webkit.16:58
quidamdfarning: and what about moving the browser activity to webkit as well?17:00
dfarningquidam, that is well underway.   a gsoc student named Lucian did 90% of the work.  but the python bindings to webkit are not stable enough for production.17:01
dfarningquidam, the webkit based borwser is called surf.17:02
kandarpkmanusheel sir: making the changes is only reducing the font size17:03
manusheelkandarpk: Where all are we making the changes?17:03
kandarpkmanusheel sir: in tawindow.py17:04
kandarpkinside TA17:04
manusheelkandarpk: Right. I have that file opened in front of me.17:04
manusheelkandarpk: In that file, at what all places?17:04
kandarpkmanusheel sir: pasting the modified file17:06
manusheelkandarpk: Ok, can you paste the modified functions/17:06
manusheelkandarpk: The file is very large.17:06
kandarpkline 37, 132, 138, 14117:06
manusheelkandarpk: Also, do a change in 2009 line17:08
kandarpkmanusheel sir: OK17:09
manusheelkandarpk: Were you able to find the change?17:11
kandarpkI'll need to reboot17:12
manusheelkandarpk: What happened?17:12
kandarpkmanusheel sir: yes sir, I was able to see where I'll need to make the change17:12
kandarpkmanusheel sir: The system is showing I/O error17:12
manusheelkandarpk: Ok.17:13
kandarpkafter certain period of time almost every time now17:13
manusheelkandarpk: Did the issue get solved?17:18
kandarpkmanusheel sir: that will reoccur after sometime17:19
kandarpkcan work till then17:19
manusheelkandarpk: Let us build the patch then.17:19
manusheelkandarpk: We'll write a query at sugar-devel on the behavior experienced, and ask for pointers on it.17:19
kandarpkmanusheel sir: are these changes sufficient ?17:20
manusheelkandarpk: Let me quickly check once. In the meantime, insert a doc string.17:20
quidamdfarning: I'm doing some tests17:21
manusheelkandarpk: Also, let us have comments in the changed file.17:21
quidamdfarning: lucid comes with xulrunner 1.9.217:21
kandarpkmanusheel sir: where do I need to insert the docstring ?17:21
quidamdfarning: but you can install 1.9.1 as well17:21
dfarningquidam, yes, we have not really done much work on lucid.... we set maverick as our initial release target.17:23
quidamdfarning: what you dislike of lucid so much?17:23
quidambeing an LTS it sounds weird to skip it17:24
manusheelkandarpk: That is in the patch.17:24
manusheelkandarpk: Not required as of now.17:24
manusheelkandarpk: We can skip that.17:24
dfarningquidam, there is no dislike.... We just start work on support ubuntu a couple of months ago. After lucid was release and before maverick went into feature freeze.17:25
manusheelkandarpk: We can make the patch using this information.17:29
quidamdfarning: I see17:29
quidamdfarning: you should work with us, we are much more flexible ;)17:29
dfarningquidam, we do 90% of our work in debian so that the results are available to the entire .deb ecosystem....  you, puppy, ubuntu:)17:31
* alsroot hopes that bazaar.sl.o will be a top of flexibility :)17:32
quidamhey! my hack almost worked!17:40
quidamalsroot: I've got your karmic packages working on lucid17:40
quidamsort of17:41
alsrootquidam: I guess except Browse ;)17:41
quidambut I've got both 1.9.1 and 1.9.2 xuls17:41
kandarpkmanusheel sir: mailing you the patch file17:41
manusheelkandarpk: Sure.17:42
alsrootquidam: are you in a hurry, how many time you have for T4?17:42
quidamalsroot: this is just a demo for a school17:43
kandarpkmanusheel sir: sent at @laptop id17:43
quidamalsroot: but it might be simple, it fails to find libxul17:43
manusheelkandarpk: Great, kandarp.17:43
alsrootquidam: try ln xul dir to..17:44
manusheelkandarpk: This patch scales the font in TA by using ZOOM_FACTOR set in sugar.graphics.style (SL#1858)17:44
manusheelkandarpk: One change.17:44
kandarpkmanusheel sir: OK17:44
manusheelkandarpk: You can send the patch for review at sugar-devel now.17:45
alsrootquidam: what xul version do you have?17:45
kandarpkmanusheel sir: I mentioned the bug number in subject line, by the way17:45
quidamalsroot: 1.9.2 and 1.9.117:45
quidamoh, nice17:45
manusheelkandarpk: We need this in the one-line summary too.17:45
quidamit seems like the ln worked17:46
kandarpkmanusheel sir: OK17:46
quidamnow it fails with libxpcom17:46
alsrootquidam: can't find .so or coredump?17:46
kandarpkmanusheel sir: I've specified it as bug#1858 in the one line summary17:46
kandarpkchanging it to SL#185817:46
manusheelanurag: Sure.17:47
ishankandarpk, sir hi17:49
kandarpkishan: hi17:50
ishankandarpk, check http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/219517:50
quidamalsroot: damn, now it has the libs right, but crashes anyway17:51
alsrootquidam: I guess python-xpcom should be rebuilt against new xulrunner17:51
ishankandarpk, sir any pointers on this bug?17:51
alsrootquidam: you can try on on lucid https://launchpad.net/~alsroot/+archive/trisquel-edu-3.5/+sourcepub/975416/+listing-archive-extra17:52
quidamalsroot: but it is the same xulrunner as per karmic17:52
alsrootquidam: hmm, then dunno..17:52
kandarpkishan: the time displayed for UTC+[1-12] is UTC-[1-12] and vice versa17:53
kandarpkishan: am I clear ?17:53
ishankandarpk, yes17:53
ishanalsroot, hi aroound?18:04
alsrootishan: hi18:05
ishanalsroot, check kandarpk, sir can you tell me the file to look in18:05
ishanoops sorry18:05
ishanalsroot, check http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/219518:06
alsrootishan: did you discuss this issue w/ erikos, he is a maint of sugar sugar-toolkit and took part in coding this part of sugar18:08
alsroothe is on #sugar18:08
ishanalsroot, okay18:08
alsrootlooks like he is offline for now18:08
alsrootishan: for me it is not clear how it was designed to work18:09
ishanalsroot, okay18:09
ishanalsroot, i was checking file sugar-jhbuild/sources/sugar/extension/cpsection/datetime/model.py18:10
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alsrootishan: yup, thats right place but anyway the problem could be not only in changing TZ itself18:14
ishanalsroot, right18:14
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berniemanusheel: yes, the metacity fix is a hack. I'm not sure you guys could get it accepted in ubuntu.19:15
berniemanusheel: I spoke with the metacity maintainer in fedora... he'd accept only a real fix which is far from being trivial19:15
berniemanusheel: we're talking about the grab/ungrab of global shortcuts such as alt-tab, right?19:16
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manusheelbernie: Yes.19:23
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