=== lfaraone_ is now known as lfaraone === bernie_afk is now known as bernie === bernie is now known as bernie_afk === bernie_afk is now known as bernie === bernie is now known as bernie_afk === bernie_afk is now known as bernie === bernie is now known as bernie_afk [16:27] mukul: Hi Mukul. [16:27] manusheel sir: hi [16:29] mukul: So, the metacity fix is a temporary fix according to Silbe, Bernie and the GNOME lead. [16:29] ?* [16:29] mukul, but the upstream metacity is interested in it:) [16:29] manusheel sir: As far as I remember ,Yes. I am searching for link. [16:30] mukul: Sure, definitely. [16:35] mukul: What is the bug number of this issue at the gnome bug tracker? [16:36] manusheel sir: 629210 [16:36] mukul: Can you send me the link? [16:38] manusheel sir: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=629210 [16:38] Gnome bug 629210 in general "Enable Alt+Tab keybindings in metacity" [Normal,Unconfirmed] [16:39] manusheel, dfarning : http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2010-September/026560.html [16:41] mukul: Thanks Mukul [16:42] manusheel sir: In the bugs posted by me at gnome.bugzilla as well as LP, I wrote 'sugar distro' and not sugar emulator. Does that create a confusion? [16:42] mukul: You can edit it and say Sugar emulator. [16:42] mukul: Distros are Fedora, Debian, Ubuntu... [16:43] kandarpk: Hi Kandarp. [16:44] kandarpk: Finally, the net connection issue got solved :-) Great. [16:44] manusheel sir, :) [16:45] manusheel sir: Since it is a temporary fix, we will have to let the maintainer know about it. [16:46] mukul: Yes, surely. [16:46] mukul: Let us reply to Tomeu and link this thread with it. [16:46] manusheel sir: I added the following two lines [16:46] from sugar.graphics.style import ZOOM_FACTOR [16:46] self.scale = 1.0 * ZOOM_FACTOR [16:48] kandarpk: There is also one more statement, where we have a value of 0.67 [16:48] kandarpk: I think it is on the top of it. [16:48] hi, I'm trying to make a sugar loaded Trisquel 4 (lucid based) demo image [16:49] but I'm having some problems [16:49] manusheel sir: yes, do we need to make only these changes ? [16:49] dfarning: ^^, what the current status of sugar package in lucid? [16:49] kandarpk: There are 4 changes in all as I see. [16:51] quidam, I suggest that you skip lucid and jump straight to maverick. You and you users will be disapointed in the experince on lucid based distros. [16:52] kandarpk: two related to self.scale [16:52] dfarning: well, we can't do that, it is an LTS [16:52] kandarpk: self.scale = 1.0 * ZOOM_FACTOR [16:52] kandarpk: self.scale = 0.67 * ZOOM_FACTOR [16:53] kandarpk: Two related to block_scale and self.bloc_scale [16:53] block* [16:53] quidam, then your best bet is to backport the maverick packages to lucid. I wish I had a better answer. [16:53] dfarning: also, we've been getting very good impressions from users so far, we do not try to replicate ubuntu's defaults [16:54] quidam, dfarning: I'm hope to setup bazaar.sl.o this week and will start sucrose packaging on it, will start w/ lucid [16:54] alsroot, nice. [16:55] dfarning: well, for now it would be enough for me to be able to include the basic stuff, like the browser [16:55] I used ubuntu packages and the sugar-remix ppa, no luck [16:55] quidam, browse is a blocker. [16:56] oh, ok [16:56] do you think karmic packages could work? [16:56] manusheel sir: TA uses [16:56] self.block_scale = BLOCK_SCALE [16:57] quidam, the necessary support for xulrunner is not available in lucid. we are acctually going to ship firefox as the default browser for sugar on maverick:( [16:57] right [16:57] kandarpk: It should become self.block_scale = BLOCK_SCALE*ZOOM_FACTOR [16:57] manusheel sir: OK [16:58] quidam, browse was oneof the causualities of a shift in focus at ubuntu from xulrunner to webkit. [17:00] dfarning: and what about moving the browser activity to webkit as well? [17:01] quidam, that is well underway. a gsoc student named Lucian did 90% of the work. but the python bindings to webkit are not stable enough for production. [17:02] quidam, the webkit based borwser is called surf. [17:02] :/ [17:03] manusheel sir: making the changes is only reducing the font size [17:03] kandarpk: Where all are we making the changes? [17:04] manusheel sir: in tawindow.py [17:04] inside TA [17:04] kandarpk: Right. I have that file opened in front of me. [17:04] kandarpk: In that file, at what all places? [17:06] manusheel sir: pasting the modified file [17:06] http://paste.ubuntu.com/491658/ [17:06] kandarpk: Ok, can you paste the modified functions/ [17:06] ? [17:06] kandarpk: The file is very large. [17:06] line 37, 132, 138, 141 [17:08] kandarpk: Also, do a change in 2009 line [17:09] manusheel sir: OK [17:11] kandarpk: Were you able to find the change? [17:12] I'll need to reboot [17:12] kandarpk: What happened? [17:12] manusheel sir: yes sir, I was able to see where I'll need to make the change [17:12] manusheel sir: The system is showing I/O error [17:13] kandarpk: Ok. [17:13] after certain period of time almost every time now [17:18] kandarpk: Did the issue get solved? [17:19] manusheel sir: that will reoccur after sometime [17:19] can work till then [17:19] kandarpk: Let us build the patch then. [17:19] kandarpk: We'll write a query at sugar-devel on the behavior experienced, and ask for pointers on it. [17:20] manusheel sir: are these changes sufficient ? [17:20] kandarpk: Let me quickly check once. In the meantime, insert a doc string. [17:21] dfarning: I'm doing some tests [17:21] kandarpk: Also, let us have comments in the changed file. [17:21] dfarning: lucid comes with xulrunner 1.9.2 [17:21] manusheel sir: where do I need to insert the docstring ? [17:21] dfarning: but you can install 1.9.1 as well [17:23] quidam, yes, we have not really done much work on lucid.... we set maverick as our initial release target. [17:23] dfarning: what you dislike of lucid so much? [17:24] being an LTS it sounds weird to skip it [17:24] kandarpk: That is in the patch. [17:24] kandarpk: Not required as of now. [17:24] kandarpk: We can skip that. [17:25] quidam, there is no dislike.... We just start work on support ubuntu a couple of months ago. After lucid was release and before maverick went into feature freeze. [17:29] kandarpk: We can make the patch using this information. [17:29] dfarning: I see [17:29] dfarning: you should work with us, we are much more flexible ;) [17:31] quidam, we do 90% of our work in debian so that the results are available to the entire .deb ecosystem.... you, puppy, ubuntu:) [17:32] * alsroot hopes that bazaar.sl.o will be a top of flexibility :) [17:32] s/top/peak/ [17:40] hey! my hack almost worked! [17:40] alsroot: I've got your karmic packages working on lucid [17:41] sort of [17:41] quidam: I guess except Browse ;) [17:41] yes [17:41] but I've got both 1.9.1 and 1.9.2 xuls [17:41] manusheel sir: mailing you the patch file [17:42] kandarpk: Sure. [17:42] quidam: are you in a hurry, how many time you have for T4? [17:43] alsroot: this is just a demo for a school [17:43] manusheel sir: sent at @laptop id [17:43] alsroot: but it might be simple, it fails to find libxul [17:43] kandarpk: Great, kandarp. [17:44] quidam: try ln xul dir to.. [17:44] kandarpk: This patch scales the font in TA by using ZOOM_FACTOR set in sugar.graphics.style (SL#1858) [17:44] kandarpk: One change. [17:44] manusheel sir: OK [17:45] kandarpk: You can send the patch for review at sugar-devel now. [17:45] quidam: what xul version do you have? [17:45] manusheel sir: I mentioned the bug number in subject line, by the way [17:45] alsroot: 1.9.2 and 1.9.1 [17:45] oh, nice [17:45] kandarpk: We need this in the one-line summary too. [17:46] it seems like the ln worked [17:46] manusheel sir: OK [17:46] now it fails with libxpcom [17:46] quidam: can't find .so or coredump? [17:46] manusheel sir: I've specified it as bug#1858 in the one line summary [17:46] changing it to SL#1858 [17:47] anurag: Sure. [17:49] kandarpk, sir hi [17:50] ishan: hi [17:50] kandarpk, check http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2195 [17:51] alsroot: damn, now it has the libs right, but crashes anyway [17:51] quidam: I guess python-xpcom should be rebuilt against new xulrunner [17:51] kandarpk, sir any pointers on this bug? [17:52] quidam: you can try on on lucid https://launchpad.net/~alsroot/+archive/trisquel-edu-3.5/+sourcepub/975416/+listing-archive-extra [17:52] alsroot: but it is the same xulrunner as per karmic [17:52] quidam: hmm, then dunno.. [17:53] ishan: the time displayed for UTC+[1-12] is UTC-[1-12] and vice versa [17:53] ishan: am I clear ? [17:53] kandarpk, yes [18:04] alsroot, hi aroound? [18:05] aroound/around [18:05] ishan: hi [18:05] alsroot, check kandarpk, sir can you tell me the file to look in [18:05] oops sorry [18:06] alsroot, check http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2195 [18:08] ishan: did you discuss this issue w/ erikos, he is a maint of sugar sugar-toolkit and took part in coding this part of sugar [18:08] he is on #sugar [18:08] alsroot, okay [18:08] looks like he is offline for now [18:09] ishan: for me it is not clear how it was designed to work [18:09] alsroot, okay [18:10] alsroot, i was checking file sugar-jhbuild/sources/sugar/extension/cpsection/datetime/model.py === bernie_afk is now known as bernie [18:14] ishan: yup, thats right place but anyway the problem could be not only in changing TZ itself [18:14] alsroot, right === bernie is now known as bernie_afk === bernie_afk is now known as bernie === bernie is now known as bernie_afk === bernie_afk is now known as bernie [19:15] manusheel: yes, the metacity fix is a hack. I'm not sure you guys could get it accepted in ubuntu. [19:15] manusheel: I spoke with the metacity maintainer in fedora... he'd accept only a real fix which is far from being trivial [19:16] manusheel: we're talking about the grab/ungrab of global shortcuts such as alt-tab, right? === bernie is now known as bernie_afk === bernie_afk is now known as bernie [19:23] bernie: Yes. === bernie is now known as bernie_afk === bernie_afk is now known as bernie === bernie is now known as bernie_afk === bernie_afk is now known as bernie