[02:25] <xubuntu888> while i'm waiting for xu to install... anyone know a repo i could plug in with nvidia's latest drivers
[02:26] <xubuntu888> could put them in manually, but a managed package would be nice
[05:40] <Balsaq> xubuntu 10.04 wont update and crashes...just stops. forced me to power off and then the computer would not run after that...just booted to the same crashed update screen.
[05:41] <Balsaq> had to delete the partiton and reinstall...happened again, tried ubuntu 10.04 same.
[10:04] <sb> hi
[10:05] <sb> you people are homosexuals
[10:05] <sb> hahaha
[10:05] <sb> lol
[10:05] <sb> i am stupid
[10:06] <Sysi> do you think he was looking for company?
[10:07] <Balsaq> yo sysi
[10:08] <Sysi> hi Balsaq
[10:08] <Sysi> one other guy talked also about that update failing
[10:08] <Sysi> you used update-manager?
[10:09] <Balsaq> yeah i have since read a lot of things...i think i know wut happened
[10:09] <Balsaq> i did update mgr and sudo
[10:09] <Balsaq> it crashed both ways
[10:09] <Balsaq> its a mem leak issue
[10:09] <Balsaq> my system monitor peaks
[10:09] <Balsaq> they messed up
[10:10] <Balsaq> all the 512 ram aint enough
[10:10] <Balsaq> yet in my 1 gig machines and my new 6 gig machine...buntu 10004 runs good
[10:10] <Balsaq> 10.04 i mean
[10:11] <Balsaq> got a feelin if i go pop another half gig in there my problem is solved....or if i increase my swap partition.
[10:12] <Balsaq> many others in blogs all over are compaing about how it slows to a crawl and then stops
[10:12] <Balsaq> but i finally found an article published in april about this memory leak issue
[10:13] <Balsaq> i think they put out the new distro before it was fixed
[10:14] <Balsaq> but i could be wrong who knows
[10:16] <Balsaq> just not inthe mood to deal wit hit right now, all my other computers are running fine
[10:19] <Balsaq> Sysi, do u think my best guess has any chance of being correct?
[10:19] <Balsaq> knowing i am a certified non tech?
[10:20] <Sysi> it could well be that memory leakage
[10:20] <Balsaq> and honestly i dont even know what that means....leak? or does it just mean its a mem hog?
[10:21] <Balsaq> even on my 1 gig machine it gets slow sometimes all the sudden,,,then it runs fast again.
[10:22] <Sysi> it uses memory and don't give up of it
[10:22] <Sysi> it should free it after usage, when not needed anymore
[10:22] <Balsaq> oh i see
[10:24] <Balsaq> they knew about it in april
[10:25] <Balsaq> acording to what ive read
[10:26] <Sysi> i used lucid with 512 succesfully.. i could test what update had done that
[10:26] <Sysi> maybe it's because i use aptitude
[10:26] <Sysi> always succesfull updating after install
[10:27] <Balsaq> isnt that the same as sudo apt-get update?
[10:27] <Balsaq> cos i tried that
[10:28] <Sysi> almost, hum
[10:28] <Balsaq> well maybe aptitude is better?
[10:28] <Balsaq> expalin that way?
[10:28] <Balsaq> explain*
[10:30] <Sysi> i've also used apt-get, can't remember exactly
[10:31] <Sysi> atm i have 10.10 in low-end box
[10:31] <Balsaq> hmm
[10:31] <Balsaq> how is 1010
[10:32] <Sysi> alpha ofc unstable, new software and a bit faster than lucid
[10:34] <Balsaq> hmmm i would even be ok with unstable if it would run on 512 and update
[10:34] <Balsaq> how much ram do u have?
[10:34] <Sysi> 512 in that
[10:35] <Balsaq> ur running 512?
[10:35] <Sysi> had to do netinstall, any other didn't boot from usb
[10:35] <Balsaq> i was thinking maybe 101 doesnt have the mem leak thing
[10:35] <Balsaq> 10.10*
[10:36] <Balsaq> when you say unstable what happened that made you say unstable..crashes?
[10:37] <Sysi> rhythmbox didn't work
[10:37] <Balsaq> does it work now?
[10:37] <Sysi> there's a bug that causes xfce4-terminal to use 100% cpu
[10:37] <Balsaq> ahhh same thing i saw in 1004
[10:37] <Balsaq> i saw it peakin like that
[10:38] <Balsaq> i mean we put a man on the moon in 1960? why cant they build a distro without that?
[10:38] <Balsaq> think about that?
[10:40] <Balsaq> see during my update it started out ok...then that black and white terminal style screen appears on its own and BAM it peaks
[10:40] <Balsaq> soon after that is stops
[10:40] <Balsaq> so i still tried the terminal update method but it still stopped after awhile
[10:55] <slow-motion> hi
[11:03] <UbuXubu> Sysi, are you still on
[11:04] <Sysi> mostly present
[11:05] <UbuXubu> its me i just decided to run downstairs to the lab and jump on my 1 gig dedicated ubuntu 10.04 machine and install xchat
[11:06] <UbuXubu> the lil buggar with only 512 is next too me running another me test now
[11:07] <UbuXubu> says pass complete, no errors, press exit to exit....but still lokks like the test is running. either way keeps passing everything.
[11:07] <UbuXubu> pres esc to exit i meant...
[11:08] <UbuXubu> so i still think its just the 512 thing vs the cpu max bug thing or ram leak think
[11:08] <UbuXubu> cos this dedicated machine here,,,using the 10.04 is fine
[11:08] <UbuXubu> on 1 gig
[11:08] <UbuXubu> same 2.4 cpu
[11:08] <UbuXubu> but i added an extra half gig of ram awhile ago
[11:10] <UbuXubu> so i guess ill just have to use some other lightweight linux distro for this half gig machine next too me i guess...might be fun to try something new i guess.
[11:11] <UbuXubu> i saw lxde the other day, looks pretty good, basic but good and there was a lot of people in their chat room...maybe it will run good on half a gig.
[11:15] <UbuXubu> my update mgr says this one is all up to date...whew good.
[11:16] <UbuXubu> but when i use the fancy nvidia driver they told me to use...it made my desktop look funny, stretched? so i went back tot he gnome driver and my destop looks perfect? but videos dont play very clear?  gotta love buntu!
[11:18] <UbuXubu> i must say if they ever really perfect buntu...this 10.04 looks really great, i used their desktop with a simple drinking glass on it and one drop of water suspened in mid air and it looks really professional!
[11:20] <UbuXubu> why cant the gnome drivers play online videos on full screen mode?
[11:21] <UbuXubu> is it rocket science? geez i have a 10 year old windows 2000 computer here that plays them perfect?......am i askin too much hehe....tired i guess.
[11:22] <Sysi> flash videos?
[11:22] <Sysi> flash don't like linux very much
[11:23] <Sysi> compiz messes something up causing problems
[11:23] <UbuXubu> i  dont know what they are but i tried hulu vids...they look good until i put it in full screen mode
[11:23] <Sysi> flash
[11:23] <UbuXubu> im not even using compiz to my knowledge
[11:24] <UbuXubu> well idid install flash yes....can i try something else?
[11:25] <UbuXubu> when i went to youtube it wouldnt ever run unless i installed flash...should i have installed something else instead?
[11:25] <UbuXubu> i am game for all gnome drivers if they work!
[11:26] <Sysi> what an earth is gnome driver
[11:26] <Sysi> performace isn't very great with open drivers
[11:26] <knome> Sysi, think: gnome libraries, but that doesn't really relate much here
[11:26] <Sysi> closed drivers.. when you have problem, we can't help
[11:27] <Sysi> knome: i don't quite get it, but maybe i don't need to
[11:27] <UbuXubu> well, i mean when i installed it told me use a certain nvidia 96 driver, so i did bu tthe screen looked all stretched....so i went back tothe regular open source driver and my ddesktop looks perfect
[11:27] <knome> Sysi, no... i don't think you need.
[11:27] <knome> i think i need to switch my GC back to the one i had earlier. this one is giving me headache.
[11:28] <Sysi> UbuXubu: did you even try nvidia settings manager?
[11:28] <Sysi> it's in menu
[11:28] <UbuXubu> hmmm no
[11:28] <UbuXubu> missed that?
[11:29] <UbuXubu> but in was worried when i read that if i used closed drivers ubuntu ppl cant help
[11:29] <knome> the nvidia settings manager is very powerful tool, and you can really achieve what you want tith it
[11:29] <Sysi> UbuXubu: we can a little
[11:29] <UbuXubu> hmmmm where is this nvidia manager?
[11:29] <knome> UbuXubu, we still can help you with adjusting the settings, but not fixing the bugs in the software/drivers
[11:29] <Sysi> UbuXubu: it can be used only with restricted driver
[11:30] <UbuXubu> i can reinstall the nvidia driver i just didnt see the nvidia manager setting thing
[11:30] <Sysi> it's under System or Settings
[11:30] <UbuXubu> was it in one of the ubuntu drop down menus?
[11:30] <Sysi> in menu
[11:30] <UbuXubu> ok hmmm
[11:30] <UbuXubu> bummer
[11:30] <UbuXubu> i uninstalled it
[11:30] <UbuXubu> oh well here goes?
[11:31] <UbuXubu> its ok to install again right?
[11:31] <UbuXubu> in out in out?
[11:33] <UbuXubu> installing the recommended nvidia driver as we speak...
[11:33] <UbuXubu> it will eventually make me restart but ill come back...
[11:34] <UbuXubu> always hangs on the darn install but installs
[11:35] <UbuXubu> ok willrestart now see ya in a minute i wanna try that nvidia manager thing
[11:38] <UbuXubu> ok lets see if i can find this nvidia manager...
[11:39] <UbuXubu> Sysi, do u mean the nvidia x server setting?
[11:39] <Sysi> that
[11:39] <UbuXubu> cos i did try that before but i dont see how i am suposed to use it...hmmm will look more closely
[11:41] <UbuXubu> i mean it is set automatically as far as far a s i can see..it know my exact model of monitor and the exact pixel resolution...so what am i supposed to do?
[11:45] <UbuXubu> lots of thing to mess with in here but i dont understand any of them hehe...if it know my exact model and is set to auto configure...shouldnt me desktop NOT be stretched?
[11:50] <UbuXubu> hmmm maybe i fixed it
[11:51] <UbuXubu> guess il try to  watch a vide o now
[11:53] <UbuXubu> hmm its better
[11:53] <UbuXubu> good one Sysi!
[11:54] <UbuXubu> but the people are still a lil bit slow on their movement in the videos but still better
[11:54] <UbuXubu> i suppose if i figure out all of the 1o million adjustments in there i can fix it entirely.
[14:23] <UbuXubu> sysi u still in here
[14:24] <Sysi> don't ask, i'm not only person in entire internet
[14:35] <riz__> hello
[14:35] <riz__> is there someone who can help me with a trouble with my eeepc & xubuntu?
[14:36] <Sysi> !help
[14:36] <riz__> !help
[14:36] <bazhang> riz__, ask a question
[14:40] <riz__> I'm trying to use Xubuntu on a eeePc, I've tried 4-5 different releases but cannot solve my problem: the system is incredibly slow, cpu works always a lot, also the ram... also scrolling the firefox pages is a pain in the ass! how can I solve this?
[14:41] <charlie-tca> How much ram do you have?
[14:43] <riz__> the eeepc model is 1101ha, 1gb ram, 2.8gb of swap, now, with FF and irc client open the ram is at 22%, the cpu1 is on 82%, the cpu2 floats from 60 to 100%
[14:45] <Sysi> use "top" to see what's using resources
[14:45] <Sysi> flash webpages need lots of power
[14:47] <riz__> is it possible that is so slow that cannot see a youtube video normally? with winXp they works normally :P
[14:47] <riz__> right now 61mb for FF, 10mb for irc chat
[14:47] <riz__> and the system monitor keeps 32% of cpu
[14:50] <riz__> and cannot find any "drivers" that can help to improve performances :P
[14:52] <bazhang> using compiz?
[14:52] <bazhang> ah ask 'n quit
[16:14] <BlueEagle> bazhang: We all know if they don't get an answer within 20 seconds they google it. ;)
[16:15] <charlie-tca> Be nice if they would try searching first
[16:16] <BlueEagle> charlie-tca: It would be nice to win the lottery as well.
[16:16] <charlie-tca> agreed :-)
[20:16] <kevinSj> Does anyone know if it's possible to dual monitor in Xubuntu? Worked perfectly in Ubuntu
[20:16] <knome> it is possible.
[20:16] <charlie-tca> yes
[20:16] <kevinSj> Good
[20:16] <kevinSj> How?
[20:16] <charlie-tca> !xinerama
[20:17] <kevinSj> Ubottu, so Xubuntu doesn't have native support?
[20:17] <charlie-tca> no
[20:18] <kevinSj> charlie-tca, Okey. I want my os to be as lightweight as possible. is Xinerama light?
[20:18] <charlie-tca> I don't know. If you light, why use dual monitors?
[20:18] <kevinSj> charlie-tca, Need it when I program.
[20:33] <kevinSj> How do I turn off my laptop display then?
[20:33] <kevinSj> So I only use the external monitor?
[20:39] <well_laid_lawn> kevinSj:  http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/automating-xorg-randr-turning-laptop-screen-off-if-external-monitor-is-connected-779386/
[21:12] <jasonchmiel> help
[21:12] <jasonchmiel> ah...what is this? a communication platform?
[21:12] <jasonchmiel> I've never used linux before so this is foreign to me lol
[21:12] <jasonchmiel> -whois emma