[15:06] <sanguine1> hello
[15:08] <sanguine1> i have a question: if i created a new program that integrates with the indicator-app, should i submit it to just ubuntu or try to get it into debian?
[15:17] <fagan> sanguine1:  debian
[15:18] <fagan> app indicators should be done in such a way that they can be submitted anywhere and if they arent installed it should fall back to the notification area
[15:18] <sanguine1> is there special coding to ensure the fallback works?
[15:18] <fagan> Im pretty sure its in the examples
[15:18]  * fagan goes looking
[15:18] <sanguine1> okay
[15:23] <sanguine1> i found it on the wiki but will have to see how to test that in python
[15:24] <fagan> Oh its automatic
[15:24]  * fagan = dumb
[15:25] <fagan> so you should be able to just push it to debian
[15:25] <sanguine1> great, so as long as my package depends on the indicator-applet it won't install without it
[15:25] <sanguine1> but since it's installed it'll be able to fallback if they don't have the applet active
[15:26] <fagan> you dont need to depend on it anyway
[15:26] <fagan> it will fallback to the notification area if it isnt installed
[15:27] <fagan> you can put it as suggests though which is the more common one for the apps in universe that use it
[15:33] <sanguine1> hmm, i tried removing the indicator-applet and running my program but it's not creating a fallback icon
[15:35] <fagan> it should go to the notification area
[15:35] <fagan> I dont know
[15:36] <fagan> i havent made any yet
[15:37] <sanguine1> okay, no problem
[15:37]  * fagan goes making one in vala to see if it does it
[15:45] <fagan> hmmmmm
[15:46] <fagan> I wonder what the --pkg name for the app indicator is
[15:47] <sanguine1> what's a --pkg name? indicator-applet?
[15:48] <fagan> For vala
[15:48] <fagan> its really particular because it has to find the package name properly
[15:49] <fagan> hmmmm maybe its not installed by default
[15:52] <sanguine1> unfortunately the fallback example's in c, so i'm trying to glean how the bindings might be referenced in python
[15:59] <fagan> Im trying to work out what the package import is for vala
[15:59] <fagan> ah ill ask on monday
[15:59] <sanguine1> i don't think it's limited to just my app
[16:00] <sanguine1> i'm not seeing icons for other programs usually in the applet: pidgin and gwibber
[16:01] <c10ud> i guess it falls back if you have no indicator-applet running but still libappindicator installed
[16:01] <c10ud> python-appindicator, for, well, python
[16:01] <sanguine1> i didn't uninstall them, just removed the applet from my panel
[16:01] <sanguine1> but it's not falling back
[16:03] <sanguine1> i have other icons in the regular notification area so the fallbacks do have a place to go
[16:09] <c10ud> my suggestion is that you code a fallback manually, it's a few lines of code and doesn't make the libappindicator dependency mandatory
[16:10] <c10ud> about the thing not working, well, i guess that's a bug
[16:10] <sanguine1> yeah, it looks like a bug
[16:10] <sanguine1> i'll file a report
[16:52] <sanguine1> thanks for your help fagan
[16:52] <fagan> ah np
[20:43]  * shoonya is away: Gone to bed...