[15:06] hello [15:08] i have a question: if i created a new program that integrates with the indicator-app, should i submit it to just ubuntu or try to get it into debian? [15:17] sanguine1: debian [15:18] app indicators should be done in such a way that they can be submitted anywhere and if they arent installed it should fall back to the notification area [15:18] is there special coding to ensure the fallback works? [15:18] Im pretty sure its in the examples [15:18] * fagan goes looking [15:18] okay [15:23] i found it on the wiki but will have to see how to test that in python [15:24] Oh its automatic [15:24] * fagan = dumb [15:25] so you should be able to just push it to debian [15:25] great, so as long as my package depends on the indicator-applet it won't install without it [15:25] but since it's installed it'll be able to fallback if they don't have the applet active [15:26] you dont need to depend on it anyway [15:26] it will fallback to the notification area if it isnt installed [15:27] you can put it as suggests though which is the more common one for the apps in universe that use it [15:33] hmm, i tried removing the indicator-applet and running my program but it's not creating a fallback icon [15:35] it should go to the notification area [15:35] I dont know [15:36] i havent made any yet [15:37] okay, no problem [15:37] * fagan goes making one in vala to see if it does it [15:45] hmmmmm [15:46] I wonder what the --pkg name for the app indicator is [15:47] what's a --pkg name? indicator-applet? [15:48] For vala [15:48] its really particular because it has to find the package name properly [15:49] hmmmm maybe its not installed by default [15:52] unfortunately the fallback example's in c, so i'm trying to glean how the bindings might be referenced in python [15:59] Im trying to work out what the package import is for vala [15:59] ah ill ask on monday [15:59] i don't think it's limited to just my app [16:00] i'm not seeing icons for other programs usually in the applet: pidgin and gwibber [16:01] i guess it falls back if you have no indicator-applet running but still libappindicator installed [16:01] python-appindicator, for, well, python [16:01] i didn't uninstall them, just removed the applet from my panel [16:01] but it's not falling back [16:03] i have other icons in the regular notification area so the fallbacks do have a place to go [16:09] my suggestion is that you code a fallback manually, it's a few lines of code and doesn't make the libappindicator dependency mandatory [16:10] about the thing not working, well, i guess that's a bug [16:10] yeah, it looks like a bug [16:10] i'll file a report [16:52] thanks for your help fagan [16:52] ah np [20:43] * shoonya is away: Gone to bed...