[17:34] <Dehs>  anyone here know how to setup a static ip on edubuntu server 10.4.1? please dont ask me any random or pointless questions, not trying to be rude, ive just encountered several idiots here and want a quick answer, not wasted time
[17:36] <alkisg> Urm. Not the best intro, but ok, let's go through this
[17:36] <alkisg> There are two ways, 1) with network manager and 2) with /etc/network/interfaces
[17:36] <alkisg> Do you have any preference over those 2?
[17:37] <Dehs> well ive been trying to use the /etc/network/interfaces file for a minute now but its asking for several variables im not familiar with
[17:37] <alkisg> Dehs: can you use pastebin?
[17:37] <Dehs> yeah gimme a sec
[17:37] <alkisg> http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[17:37] <alkisg> Put there the following info:
[17:37] <alkisg> cat /etc/network/interfaces
[17:37] <alkisg> ifconfig -a
[17:37] <alkisg> cat /etc/resolv.conf
[17:38] <Dehs> http://paste.ubuntu.com/492250/
[17:39] <Dehs> put it in terminal? or pastebin? and sorry im kinda nubish lol
[17:39] <alkisg> In the pastebin
[17:40] <alkisg> You put the interfaces file, but paste the output of the other 2 commands too
[17:40] <alkisg> (the interfaces file is wrong)
[17:40] <Dehs> well yeah im missing info
[17:40] <Dehs> but sec
[17:41] <Dehs> here is the output of ifconfig -a
[17:42] <Dehs> http://paste.ubuntu.com/492251/
[17:43] <Dehs> output of cat /etcv/resolv.conf
[17:43] <Dehs> http://paste.ubuntu.com/492253/
[17:44] <Dehs> and im using dhcp as of right now so once you get me setup on the static and i restart i'll lose you for a moment :P
[17:44] <alkisg> Dehs: you have 2 network cards, do you want a static ip on both of them or just on eth0?
[17:44] <alkisg> Is that for ltsp?
[17:44] <Dehs> static on just one
[17:44] <Dehs> eth1
[17:45] <alkisg> OK, what IP do you want there?
[17:45] <Dehs> 99.119.57.178
[17:45] <alkisg> Nope
[17:45] <alkisg> That doesn't sound right
[17:46] <alkisg> You currently have: eth0=99.119.57.178  and eth1=192.168.69.250
[17:46] <Dehs> its an isp assigned ip, one of 5
[17:46] <alkisg> So, do you want eth1 to take the ip of eth0?
[17:46] <Dehs> is there a command to see which nic is in use? because im not sure exactly
[17:48] <Dehs> it looks like eth0 is the active one apparently, but in the network manager, and my etc/network/interfaces file it lists eth1 o.O
[17:48] <alkisg> eth1 is connected to the local network, eth0 to the internet
[17:48] <alkisg> Can you describe your network setup?
[17:48] <alkisg> I.e. where is eth0 connected and where is eth1 connected?
[17:48] <alkisg> (switches, dhcp servers, routers etc)
[17:49] <Dehs> dsl to netopia to switch to server
[17:50] <alkisg> and the other nic?
[17:51] <Dehs> same thing
[17:51] <alkisg> They're both connected to the internet?
[17:51] <alkisg> OK. Is netopia some kind of a router?
[17:52] <Dehs> yes
[17:52] <alkisg> Then, that router gets the external IP
[17:52] <alkisg> (=99.119.57.178)
[17:52] <alkisg> eth0 currently has the same IP, but it's useless
[17:52] <alkisg> It doesn't have access to anything
[17:52] <Dehs> actually netopia generates the ips
[17:53] <alkisg> And, eth1 gets a local address from your router, and you access the internet from it
[17:53] <alkisg> So, if I'm reading you correctly, you *don't* want a static ip, because netopia has it.
[17:53] <Dehs> btw im just a tech here, im just relaying info from my boss in a wheelchair :P
[17:54] <Dehs> no he wants the static ip, just on the one nic o.O sorry you both kinda have me lost
[17:54] <alkisg> OK. I think it would break your internet connection, but sure, we can do that.
[17:54] <alkisg> On which eth do you want it?
[17:55] <alkisg> eth0 or eth1?
[17:55] <Dehs> well how are we gonna do it without breaking the net first lol
[17:56] <Dehs> oh i think i get you lol
[17:57] <alkisg> If you're behind a router, you can't use a public IP
[17:57] <Dehs> continue on
[17:57] <alkisg> It doesn't make sense
[17:57] <alkisg> But if you want to put a static IP, you can
[17:57] <alkisg> You just won't have access to anywhere
[17:57] <alkisg> E.g. do you know your public subnet mask?
[17:58] <Dehs> 255.255.255.248
[17:58] <alkisg> OK. On which eth do you want that info?
[17:58] <alkisg> On eth0 or on eth1?
[17:58] <Dehs> eth1
[17:59] <alkisg> And, what's your gateway?
[17:59] <alkisg> 99.119.57.something
[17:59] <Dehs> 99.119.57.182
[18:00] <alkisg> Here's your interfaces, as you described it: http://paste.ubuntu.com/492263/
[18:00] <alkisg> Make backups etc because I doubt that that's valid info... :)
[18:01] <alkisg> (for your current wiring)
[18:01] <alkisg> I think that what you want to do is to setup your router to have a dmz server
[18:01] <alkisg> i.e. for the router to have 2 IPs, and send whatever data it gets to the server
[18:02] <alkisg> But the server won't have a public IP - the router will.
[18:02] <Dehs> gimme a sec lemme try this :P
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