[00:00] <Mohan_chml> it will show you the UTC time
[00:00] <Tempus_Fugit> ok cool
[00:00] <Tempus_Fugit> ty
[00:00] <Mohan_chml> (:
[00:02] <Mohan_chml> pedro3005: are ya busy now?
[00:03] <Justin511> Mohan_chml: I think I may have it, I shall keep u posted ;)
[00:04] <Mohan_chml> argh! /me slept an hour before
[00:04] <Mohan_chml> :D
[00:04] <Justin511> Mohan_chml: IT WORKED I THINK THANKS :)
[00:05] <Mohan_chml> Justin511: Forums has whatever you need and its us just guiding you to the right stream ;)
[00:05] <Justin511> Mohan
[00:05] <Justin511> What do I do now tho lol
[00:05] <Mohan_chml> Justin511: and you yelled a lot. My ears shed blood :/
[00:05] <Justin511> haha
[00:06] <Mohan_chml> (:
[00:07] <Justin511> Is my TV Tuner a capture card?
[00:07] <Mohan_chml> Ummm...! Idk. I just searched and gave ya the link. Coz I am tired.
[00:07] <Justin511> Haha alright
[00:07] <Justin511> Thanks for the help :)
[00:08] <Mohan_chml> Justin511: your welcome ;)
[00:23] <Mohan_chml> Night all...!
[00:24] <Justin511> Night!
[00:25] <Justin511> Anyone familiar with MythTV? Do I have to PAY for the channel guide???
[00:26] <Mohan_chml> Justin511: 10 USD a day :D
[00:26] <Justin511> Lol but really
[00:27] <Mohan_chml> Justin511: I ll tell you my account number. Put the money on that ;)
[00:27] <Justin511> Aw thats nice but no thanks, I will find a way around it :)
[00:28] <Mohan_chml> lol
[00:28] <Justin511> It's like $20 a year
[00:28] <Justin511> but I have Verizon Fios
[00:28] <Justin511> This worked perfect on Windows lol
[00:29] <Mohan_chml> Bah! the one I hate.
[00:31] <Mohan_chml> kay! detaching the screen. bye.. o/
[00:40] <Tempus_Fugit> ok I am back
[01:19] <wkivel> is there something that can cause ubuntu to not shut off even with the shut off command?
[01:25] <ubuntu> I have a major problem
[01:27] <AndrewMC> !ask | ubuntu
[01:27] <ubot2> ubuntu: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[01:28] <ubuntu> I just did a fresh install of ubuntu 10.04 I downloaded the updates when they was installing the screen went black and restart and a problem was detected and when not let me fix without having to reinstall the OS because I have files on the hard drive that I can not lose
[01:28] <ubuntu> im on the live cd right now
[01:29] <AndrewMC> ubuntu: you should be able to go to Computer and enter your hard drive and take your files out and move to something like a pendrive
[01:29] <ubuntu> that would be nice if I had that options
[01:32] <wkivel> do you not a pen drive or another place to put the hard drive?
[01:33] <ubuntu> no not at the moment untel i go home and that will be some time to tomorrow and I have things I need to get done
[01:46] <ubuntu> their is no way to repair or fix what has been done without losing my data
[01:46] <aveilleux> ubuntu: What happened?
[01:51] <ubuntu> I had just did a fresh install and the updates where installing and something happened to the install it restart and it went nuts i tried to fix it with the fscn command but no luck and now it has a low graphics and will not go to the login screen
[01:52] <aveilleux> ubuntu: Can you log into a failsafe terminal?
[01:52] <ubuntu> i dont know
[01:52] <ubuntu> how
[01:54] <ubuntu> and plus iam on the live cd
[01:57] <aveilleux> ubuntu: when you boot into graphical mode, and it stops going anywhere, try hitting Ctrl+Alt+F1
[01:57] <aveilleux> ubuntu: That should drop you into a command-line shell
[01:57] <aveilleux> ubuntu: From there, you can run the command: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a
[01:58] <ubuntu> and that will fix my problem without losing any of my data
[02:01] <aveilleux> ubuntu: In theory. It should go over and reconfigure all of the broken packages.
[02:03] <ubuntu> ok kool
[02:03] <ubuntu> thanks ill write it down and give it a try
[02:04] <aveilleux> ubuntu: Come back here if it doesn't. I'll probably still be here
[02:07] <ubuntu> ok
[02:20] <vu1kan> <python -m SimpleHTTPServer> allows one to serve their current working directory over their lan@ localhost:8000, I would like to expose this dir to the internet.  I've already set up a ddns provider, and forwarded port 8000 through my router, what would be my next step? or could someone point me towards a how-to?
[02:47] <ubuntu> ok when it boots it goes to a black screen and says 'ubuntu is running in low-graphics mode screen, graphics card, and input device settings could not be detected correctly. will need to configure these yourself'. and the keyboard does not work so the ctrl+alt+F1 does not work
[02:47] <aveilleux> ubuntu: Hm, odd.
[02:48] <ubuntu> yeah
[02:48] <ubuntu> need had this happen before
[02:48] <aveilleux> ubuntu: While the machine is booting, mash Esc until you get to the GRUB menu
[02:48] <aveilleux> ubuntu: There should be an option for Recovery Mode
[02:49] <aveilleux> ubuntu: one of the options after booting to recovery mode should be "boot to root shell prompt"
[02:49] <aveilleux> ubuntu: Then you can run the command from there (without the sudo)
[02:49] <ubuntu> need had this happen before
[02:49] <ubuntu> hold or push esc
[02:50] <aveilleux> ubuntu: "Mash" means hit repeatedly, since the exact timing is unknown
[02:50] <aveilleux> ubuntu: Wait no, I mean Shift, not Esc
[02:51] <ubuntu> ok
[02:53] <ubuntu> ok shift ill give it a try if it does not work ill be back
[03:13] <vu1kan> <python -m SimpleHTTPServer> allows one to serve their current working directory over their lan@ localhost:8000, I would like to expose this dir to the internet.  I've already set up a ddns provider, and forwarded port 8000 through my router, what would be my next step? or could someone point me towards a how-to?
[03:51] <pcb_> hey is ther someone to help me?
[03:52] <duanedesign> pcb_: what is the problem?
[03:53] <pcb_> i want to install ubuntu netbook and have totally free ntfs partition, how can i choose the free partition on the installer?
[03:54] <pcb_> so c: is my win partition i will keep them, d: is a free ntfs (20gb)
[03:55] <duanedesign> pcb_: ok you will need to reformat the partition to something Ubuntu can install on
[03:55] <pcb_> okay can i use the live cd  with the gparted?
[03:56] <duanedesign> pcb_: i think the installer can take care of that
[03:56] <duanedesign> pcb_: yes you can also use gparted
[03:57] <pcb_> the installer just say, that i he take the free space, but i want him just taking the free partition
[03:59] <duanedesign> pcb_: their should be a specify partitions manually?
[04:00] <pcb_> yes i want to change one whole ntfs partition for ubuntu
[04:01] <pcb_> hm i will figure it out, thanks a lot
[04:02] <duanedesign> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/images/installinglucid07a.png
[04:02] <duanedesign> the last option in that screenshot
[04:23] <km0r3> duanedesign: are you there?
[04:24] <stlsaint> km0r3: are you there?
[04:24] <km0r3> hello stlsaint
[04:25] <stlsaint> km0r3: huh?
[04:25] <km0r3> stlsaint: yeah ;)
[04:25] <pedro3005> hi km0r3 , stlsaint
[04:25] <stlsaint> km0r3: what?
[04:25] <stlsaint> pedro3005: sup...like my nomination of you?? :D hehe
[04:25] <pedro3005> stlsaint, what?
[04:26] <km0r3> stlsaint: yeah, I am here
[04:26] <km0r3> hi pedro3005 !
[04:29] <pedro3005> km0r3, how's it going?
[04:29] <duanedesign> km0r3: hello
[04:30] <jimisrvrox> hey guys ive got an issue and havent a clue as to what to do....I boot up the machine and when it gets to the login screen my keyboard/mouse freeze. I can replug my mouse and it will move but my kb doesnt come back...what do I need to edit or do for my keyboard to work during login?
[04:31] <km0r3> pedro3005: good, good, thanks and you?
[04:31] <pedro3005> km0r3, I'm doing quite well, thanks.
[04:31] <duanedesign> jimisrvrox: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/HalBreaksKeyboardAndMouse
[04:31] <duanedesign> that might help^^
[04:35] <jimisrvrox> ok duanedesign even running in recovery mode HAL ceases
[05:00] <jimisrvrox> duanedesign: had somebody tell me to add the # 2 to the end of the kernel line and boot...and I keep getting init messages as well and it boots but kb shuts off...I know its not the keyboard because I can access the grub menu
[05:01] <jimisrvrox> heres the init messages so...the last messages I get are init: udevtrigger main process (253) terminated with status 1 next message applies to (254) then (252) killed by TERM signal now..the 254 message is the same as 253 only number changed
[05:30] <reaper50435> how do i install adobe 10 for 64-bit
[05:32] <jimisrvrox> there should be a .deb package on adobe's website..
[05:33] <jimisrvrox> but flash is known to suck with Linux installs
[05:34] <reaper50435> never had a problem before just getting them to install because the .deb packages are in 32-bit
[05:34] <jimisrvrox> ohhh
[05:35] <reaper50435> yeah
[05:35] <reaper50435> do you know the command for install restricted software
[05:36] <jimisrvrox> I believe it would be something like sudo apt-cache search adobe
[05:40] <reaper50435> ok
[16:59] <suprengr> Where is everyone?
[17:02] <stlsaint> yo
[17:03] <suprengr> yo & boo! are we all there is?
[17:03] <suprengr> [soz for bad grammar}
[17:03] <hobgoblin> everyone is missing suprengr - though there's a whole bunch of others kicking about
[17:04] <suprengr> cool
[17:04] <suprengr> [hope there not kicking too hard ;)
[17:04] <hobgoblin> about might get upset if they are
[17:05] <suprengr> :0
[17:06] <hobgoblin> it's been quiet in here most of the day
[17:07] <suprengr> yeh, been watchin (admittedly kerrrnackerrrreed] when getting home all week... seems to have been a quiet week.
[17:08] <suprengr> perhaps we're all working too hard ;)
[17:09] <hobgoblin> :)
[17:47] <rutri> hello, I need some help getting KVM up on my Ubuntu 10.4 server.
[17:49] <rutri> is anyone here?
[17:51] <rutri> hello
[17:54] <aveilleux> rutri: I'm here, but I don't have very much experience with KVM switches
[17:54] <aveilleux> rutri: Plug 'em in and go, that's all I know about them
[17:55] <rutri> is there someone i can talk to, I have look at several forms to try and get this working.\
[17:56] <Justin511> Hey, anyone familiar with MythTV?
[17:57] <Justin511> Anyone..?
[17:58] <rutri> avelleux do you know how to change hte master password for the keyring?
[17:59] <Justin511> Can anyone show off their skills and help me?
[18:03] <hobgoblin> Justin511: I saw the logs of you and myth earlier - but not sure if anyone told you of the mythtv irc channels?
[18:04] <Justin511> No one did lol
[18:04] <Justin511> Where would they be?
[18:04] <Justin511> (Name)
[18:04] <hobgoblin> k - #mythtv-users
[18:04] <Justin511> thanks
[18:05] <hobgoblin> welcome
[19:36] <nUboon2Age> Richie965: what is it you're needing help with?
[19:36] <Richie965> that was quick lol
[19:37] <Richie965> basically im just trying to dual boot mine with my pc, but when the setup goes to load when i boot form cd my display says no signal
[19:37] <Richie965> i didnt know how to fix that so i can see or how to make my comp display through the on board now that i have a dedicated graphics card
[19:39] <nUboon2Age> Richie965: that one is over my head, though maybe others here will have some clues. ;-)
[19:45] <Karuption> hey
[19:45] <nUboon2Age> duanedesign: Richie965 here is a fellow Oklahoman -- do you have any ideas for him?
[19:47] <nUboon2Age> Richie965: if you're patient someone may pop up with some insight on this.
[19:47] <Richie965> its ok i got time
[19:50] <duanedesign> hmmm
[19:52] <lukjad>  Starting in Firefox 3.6, you also need the new Java plugin included in Java 6 Update 15 and above.
[19:52] <Richie965> ive installed it on my laptop already i just can get rhe display to cooperate on my desktop
[19:52] <lukjad> aHAH
[19:52] <Karuption> LOL this guy was describing terminal as just an app
[19:56] <duanedesign> Richie965: At the main Ubuntu screen press [F4 (Modes)]
[19:56] <duanedesign> Select “Safe Graphics Mode” [Enter]
[19:56] <duanedesign> . With “Try Ubuntu without any changes…” highlighted press [Enter] again.
[19:56] <Richie965> i cant get that far, its when i try to boot the installation from the cd i made
[19:56] <duanedesign> Richie965: does that sound possible?
[19:57] <duanedesign> Richie965: so the cd does not even get to the menu where you select 'try ubuntu', 'install ubuntu', etc...
[19:57] <Richie965> basically i put the cd in and restart to boot from cd, it goes to that screen thats red and says ubuntu and has the loading dots, then when it seems to finish loading and go into setup my display says "no signal"
[19:58] <Richie965> after flickering
[19:58] <Richie965> i dont know how to display from my on boards graphics instead of my card or how to make my ati work
[20:00] <duanedesign> Richie965: you might have to use the 'Alternate Install' it uses no GUI
[20:00] <Richie965> the text type install. once i get it installed that way will i be able to boot it up when i turn my comp on
[20:01] <duanedesign> Richie965: seems to be something that affects ati cards.
[20:01] <duanedesign> Richie965: "You have to install in text mode first, then get the system up to a terminal prompt and install the proprietary fglrx driver for the ATI card. After that point X should work."
[20:02] <Richie965> ok sounds good thanks
[20:03] <duanedesign> Richie965: is it a ATI hd5xxx cards
[20:03] <Richie965> yes, is that bad
[20:03] <Richie965> 5570
[20:04] <duanedesign> Richie965: their is a bug report on it
[20:04] <duanedesign> the release ISOs never change after release. If you can't get 10.04 LTS installed due to this bug, please try installing using the alternative ISO which has a text mode installer I think. Once 10.04 LTS is installed, perform a full upgrade to get the new firmware. Then, everything should hopefully work.
[20:05] <duanedesign> bug 560306
[20:05] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 560306 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (Ubuntu Lucid) (and 3 other projects) "[lucid] ATI hd5xxx cards wrongly doing kms? (affects: 38) (dups: 5) (heat: 203)" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/560306
[20:05] <meindian523> fix released
[20:05] <Richie965> well my on board through the vga is a integrated 4200, is there a way to get my comp to display through that instead of my 5570
[20:06] <meindian523> hardware way is to disconnect the 5570, software way duanedesign?
[20:06] <Richie965> so if i uninstalled the driver for the 5570 and took it off for a min that would work?
[20:07] <Richie965> i have no problem doing that
[20:07] <duanedesign> i am not aware of a software way, other than the boot in safe-mode. But Richie can not even get that far in the livecd
[20:07] <meindian523> :(
[20:07] <Richie965> well im running windows 7 now so i can do whatever needs to be done before
[20:07] <Richie965> i just want to make ubuntu a dual boot
[20:08] <meindian523> Richie965, uninstalling the Windows driver for your 5570 wouldn't affect your problem in the least
[20:08] <meindian523> either for better or for worse
[20:08] <Richie965> ok
[20:09] <Richie965> i havnt tried taking the card out and doing that, ill try that real quick, if im back soon then it didnt work lol
[20:09] <meindian523> what you could do is shut down, remove the 5570, install Ubuntu and then plug back your 5570
[20:09] <meindian523> I'm not sure of this
[20:09] <Richie965> ok ima try that, be back either way
[20:09] <duanedesign> some in the bug report say "Switching DVI ports (to first port) solved the issue for me"
[20:09] <meindian523> just my line of thinkin
[20:09] <Richie965> well i use an hdmi with my 5570
[20:09] <meindian523> Richie965, wait
[20:09] <Richie965> 5570 doesnt even have a dvi, just a dvi-dl
[20:09] <meindian523> Try the DVI port
[20:10] <Richie965> my on board has a dvi
[20:10] <meindian523> nope, needs a DVI on the 5570
[20:10] <Richie965> well hell
[20:10] <Richie965> all it has is a dvi-dl, hdmi, and that other thing that looks like a usb
[20:11] <meindian523> duanedesign, you would advise path above?
[20:11] <meindian523> "what you could do is shut down, remove the 5570, install Ubuntu and then plug back your 5570"
[20:12] <duanedesign> whichever your more comftorable with
[20:12] <Richie965> well removing it and trying wouldnt hurt it i dont think
[20:12] <meindian523> at best you could install via LiveCD
[20:13] <meindian523> at worst you would be stuck where you are now
[20:13] <duanedesign> or use the text installer
[20:13] <Richie965> well i dl'ed the 10.04 from ubuntu.com and iso it on a cd
[20:13] <meindian523> be careful to plug it back in before you boot into Windows tho
[20:15] <duanedesign> Richie965: does your cd t your CD contains multiple files and folders and not just the ISO file.
[20:15] <Richie965> ok ill be back
[20:15] <Richie965> lemme look to make sure
[20:15] <Richie965> i used nero to burn the iso
[20:16] <Richie965> yeah it has files
[20:16] <Richie965> .disk, install, all that
[20:16] <duanedesign> okies :)
[20:16] <Richie965> be back
[20:16] <duanedesign> guess that would of been too easy
[20:16] <meindian523> k
[20:16] <meindian523> yeah
[20:16] <meindian523> duanedesign, you a web designer right?
[20:17] <duanedesign> meindian523: yes i did web design for awhile
[20:18] <meindian523> duanedesign, I'm trying to learn some HTML and CSS
 I did a lot of Flash work </whisper>
[20:18] <meindian523> saw an awesome site, could you explain one particular feature of it?
[20:18] <meindian523> :)
[20:19] <duanedesign> i saw a neat CSS page the other day
[20:19]  * duanedesign goes to find it
[20:22]  * meindian523 waits
[20:31] <duanedesign> meindian523: sorry
[20:31] <duanedesign> took forever
[20:31] <duanedesign> http://divitodesign.com/css/960-css-framework-learn-basics/
[20:32] <meindian523> np
[20:32] <duanedesign> this kinda explains the concept of a CSS framework. I like the 960
[20:32] <meindian523> hmm
[20:33] <meindian523> duanedesign, what I was going to point you to was http://minimaldesign.net
[20:33] <Karuption> has anybody install Twisted py lib on there box?
[20:33] <Karuption> installed*
[20:33] <meindian523> duanedesign, how did that menu come sliding out horizontal
[20:34] <meindian523> the hover tag is being used to activate it
[20:34] <meindian523> but how horizontal?
[20:34] <pedro3005> Karuption, yeah, sure
[20:35] <Karuption> pedro3005: is it hard?
[20:35] <pedro3005> Karuption, to install?
[20:35] <Karuption> yea lol lmao
[20:36] <pedro3005> Karuption, no, just "sudo apt-get install python-twisted"
[20:42] <duanedesign> meindian523: i think it is this javascript  http://minimaldesign.net/_js/md.js
[20:43] <meindian523> duanedesign, nope, the thing works even with NoScript blocking everything
[20:43] <meindian523> it might bethe js
[20:43] <meindian523> *be the
[20:43] <meindian523> but it works with pure CSS too
[20:44] <lukjad> sun-java6-plugin is installed
[20:44] <lukjad> But firefox does nto see it :\
[20:46] <duanedesign> meindian523: http://www.webstuffshare.com/2010/04/nice-menu-css-animation-jquery-animate/ <--read the 'PURE CSS'
[20:46] <duanedesign> meindian523: interesting
[20:48] <meindian523> duanedesign, what's interesting?
[20:49] <duanedesign> meindian523: the technique.
[20:51] <meindian523> yeah, works with just CSS and no js
[20:52] <Richie965> well guys that worked
[20:53] <Richie965> just gotta check to see how to use this card with it and configure my wireless with it
[20:54] <duanedesign> meindian523: if you notice it does not fade out when using just CSS
[20:54] <duanedesign> Richie965: cool
[20:55] <meindian523> Richie965, now, have you booted into Win yet?
[20:55] <Richie965> yeah im back in win 7 with my 55760 on
[20:55] <Richie965> *5570
[20:55] <meindian523> Richie965, Win didn't complain about anything did it?
[20:55] <Richie965> i just dual booted and gave ubuntu 125 gb
[20:55] <ubot2> Richie965: Bug 125 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/125 is private
[20:56] <Richie965> not so far, been quit
[20:56] <Richie965> *quiet
[20:56] <meindian523> k
[20:56] <duanedesign> meindian523: when you mouse-out. The text just disapears with NoScript blocking the javascript. With NoScript allowing the JS it has a nice slow fade out.
[20:56] <meindian523> Richie965, finished installing Ubuntu?
[20:56] <Richie965> yeah
[20:56] <Richie965> i booted into it a few times to check it, seems to work fine
[20:56] <meindian523> duanedesign, yeah, but I'm willing to settle for that if I can get a -out-of-nowhere- menu :)
[20:56] <meindian523> Richie965, cool, installed the fglrx driver?
[20:57] <Richie965> i havnt tried booting into it with this card yet though
[20:57] <duanedesign> meindian523: sure, i agree
[20:57] <meindian523> ah
[20:57] <Richie965> i wanna configure my netwrok first since it doesnt auto pickup my wireless
[20:57] <meindian523> Richie965, ok
[20:57] <duanedesign> Richie965: run the updates. sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[20:57] <meindian523> does it get your wired network?
[20:58] <Richie965> i dont have a wired on it
[20:58] <meindian523> ohk
[20:59] <meindian523> duanedesign, can't get updates without wireless
[20:59] <Richie965> just rying to figure out what all info i need to be able to type it in to pick it up
[20:59] <meindian523> card manufacturer, ubuntu version, card name ought to be enough
[20:59] <Richie965> i meant for my network
[20:59] <meindian523> +site:ubuntuforums.org
[21:00] <meindian523> oh, your wireless card works fine
[21:00] <meindian523> but it doesn't connect to your network
[21:00] <Richie965> yeah but ubuntu didnt auto pick up the network like my windows did
[21:00] <meindian523> is that what you are saying
[21:00] <meindian523> ohk
[21:00]  * meindian523 thought Ubuntu didn't detect the wireless card drivers
[21:01] <meindian523> :facepalm:
[21:01] <Richie965> lol
[21:01] <Richie965> idk that it hasnt yet
[21:01] <Richie965> that may be why it didnt autodetect
[21:01] <Richie965> hoping not
[21:01] <Richie965> otherwise im gonna have to make a cd with all the drivers and boot on ub and load them
[21:02] <meindian523> Richie965, when you clicked on the wireless signal indicator on the system tray, did it see the networks
[21:02] <Richie965> nope
[21:02] <meindian523> ?
[21:02] <Richie965> just had the exclaimation on it
[21:02] <meindian523> hmm
[21:02] <meindian523> did you right click on it and enable networking?
[21:02] <Richie965> yeah
[21:02] <meindian523> no joy?
[21:03] <Richie965> not even a chubby
[21:03] <meindian523> did you right click on it and enable wireless? :P
[21:03] <duanedesign> if you left-click and see networks it is working (duane is stating the obvious) :P
[21:03] <Richie965> yeah didnt have that
[21:03] <meindian523> duanedesign, +1
[21:03] <duanedesign> their is a good help page on troubleshooting wireless https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide
[21:04] <meindian523> Richie965, didn't have visible networks or didn't have enable wireless?
[21:04] <Richie965> didnt have visible
[21:04] <Richie965> i saw the boxes where it had the three enables and all that
[21:05] <Richie965> ima jump on and play with it more
[21:05] <meindian523> ok
[21:05] <duanedesign> the command lshw should tell you if the driver is loaded
[21:05] <Richie965> ok
[21:05] <Richie965> be back
[21:07]  * meindian523 still doesn't understand howthe menu was horizontal
[21:09] <Justin511> Hey, when I load up TvTime Channel 4 has the Verizon logo
[21:09] <Justin511> How do I watch TV?
[21:10] <Richie965> yeah its just not picking up drivers, gonna make a cd
[21:11] <Justin511> Anyone?
[21:12] <meindian523> Richie965, look thru the troubleshooter
[21:12] <meindian523> so you know where the problem is occurring
[21:13] <Richie965> well it told my display to f off, so ima do that first
[21:16] <meindian523> lol
[21:17] <meindian523> chicken and egg
[21:17] <Richie965> are .run files the same as exe in linux
[21:19]  * meindian523 doesn't know, duanedesign ?
[21:20] <Richie965> ima assume so cause thats what format the ati site has it in
[21:23] <duanedesign> meindian523: yes the ati flgrx is a .run file
[21:23] <duanedesign> err Richie965
[21:24] <duanedesign> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[21:25] <duanedesign> meindian523: i understand the instructions on  http://www.webstuffshare.com/2010/04/nice-menu-css-animation-jquery-animate/ but looking at that website I cant quite see how he did it.
[21:26] <duanedesign> But if you look at the examples they  aare very similar. They are set up using a list and have a jQuery version as well as a CSS only implementation
[21:26] <duanedesign> http://webstuffshare.com/demo/CSSNiceMenu/
[22:45] <bobo123> hi! Anyone here at the computer an saturday evening? (hopefully)
[22:45] <bobo123> A webpage made aware that System/Administration-menu is possible to change, so I removed programrepositories from it (like in 10.10) to make the menu easier to find in (I'm in Synaptic anyway when I change such) and saw that I have an extra programrepositories listed in System/Administration so I wonder where it have come from/why it is there?
[22:46] <bobo123> If I run that one I only get an grey dialog box that says "Please run this software with administrative rights. To do so, run this program with kdesudo."   Is it becasue something I done I also got this kde-controlpanel, or was it there at ubuntu installation (even though not turned on and not working) ?
[22:47] <stlsaint> bobo123: sup
[22:48] <bobo123> hi stlsaint
[22:48] <stlsaint> reading...
[22:48] <stlsaint> bobo123: your on kubuntu?
[22:49] <bobo123> nope. I'm using normal ubuntu 10.04
[22:49] <stlsaint> so what is kdesudo doing there?
[22:50] <bobo123> yeah... strange. and the menu should have had a kdsudo in the menu command if it was supposed to work
[22:50] <stlsaint> bobo123: also im not sure what it is you are asking
[22:50] <bobo123> Well what have put it there? / or is it there for all ubuntu10.04 installations (just noone see it because it unchecked)
[22:51] <aveilleux> bobo123: kde-controlpanel should not be installed on a normal Ubuntu system.
[22:51] <aveilleux> bobo123: It must have been installed as a dependency for something. Have you installed any KDE-based software lately?
[22:52] <bobo123> it seems to run the command "software-properties-kde"
[22:52] <bobo123> aha.. perhaps...
[22:53] <stlsaint> bobo123: yea you have installed something that requires kde-desktop package
[22:53] <stlsaint> or close to it
[22:53] <bobo123> Oh yeah I have installed Krusader two-panel filemanger. it is a KDE-application. perhaps it is its fault
[22:54] <stlsaint> yep yep
[22:54] <aveilleux> bobo123: That would do it
[22:58] <bobo123> I suppose it is possible to look at what a package installation do, what the deb file do when installed.
[22:58] <aveilleux> bobo123: Yes, it'll tel you what dependencies will be installed
[23:12] <bobo123> It seems to that krusader is dependent on kdebase-runtime, that _recomends_ kubuntu-debug-installer, that is dependent on kpackagekit that is dependent on software-properties-kde :-)
[23:12] <tcm5025> can anyone help me with installation?
[23:13] <tcm5025> #ubuntuforums
[23:13] <stlsaint> tcm5025: sure
[23:13] <stlsaint> tcm5025: what issues are you having?
[23:14] <tcm5025> hey thanks, i'm trying to use it off my usb stick
[23:14] <bobo123> is it possible to set synaptic to not just go install packages that is "recomended"? to more like opt-in list the recomended ones for me to select if I want during installation of a program like krusader?
[23:14] <tcm5025> i know the usb stick is ok cause i was able to run ubuntu on it with another computer
[23:14] <tcm5025> whenever i try to run it or install it on the computer i want it on, it just goes blank after the screen with the logo and the loading dots
[23:15] <Richie965> ati radeon graphics card?
[23:15] <Richie965> tcm?
[23:16] <bobo123> tcm5025: so it is perhapse not the usb's fault but ubuntu that douesn't like your computer graphics card or something, and you would get same result from the cd, or?
[23:16] <tcm5025> i'm not sure, it's on an older laptop. it's integrated probably
[23:17] <tcm5025> i didnt' try loading from cd or anything else
[23:17] <tcm5025> just the usb stick
[23:17] <tcm5025> is there a certain graphics card requirement to run it?
[23:17] <Richie965> tcm5025, well whats happening is that the driver isnt reconized by ubuntu
[23:17] <Richie965> i had the same problem this morning with an installation i was doing
[23:18] <tcm5025> is there a way to make it work, or is just not going to be compatible with my laptop?
[23:19] <Richie965> idk about a laptop, mine was on a desktop and i just had to remove my new graphics and use the integrated
[23:20] <tcm5025> i guess i just can't use it at all if it doesn't like my graphics card. the computer's not worth upgrading really
[23:21] <Richie965> the only other option would be to go ahead and download and install the linux version of the driver, but ubuntu still may not pick up that its there
[23:22] <tcm5025> alright, i guess i'll try that
[23:22] <tcm5025> hopefully it exists
[23:23] <bobo123> it must be possible to do the alternate non-graphical install, and get a working graphics driver then and then startating graphics after?
[23:24] <Richie965> yeah it that doesnt work u can get the alternate download off ubuntu.com, doesnt use the gui
[23:24] <Richie965> its like a text install
[23:26] <tcm5025> do you know where i can get the linux version of the driver? video card manufacturer's website?
[23:27] <Richie965> yeah just google what card it is
[23:29] <tcm5025> so i'll try installing that driver on windows first, and if that doesn't help then install ubuntu with the text install and then try to download the same driver?
[23:30] <tcm5025> i'll have to figure out how to install the driver with a non gui version of ubuntu then though?
[23:31] <Richie965> the version of ubuntu is the same, just the instalation is non-gui
[23:32] <tcm5025> well if the installation gui won't work.... won't i run into problems with the os gui too?
[23:33] <Richie965> or
[23:33] <Richie965> i thin konce u get it on u can install the driver and itll work