| drew212 | trinikrono: sounds like kernel? i'm not positive tho | 00:12 |
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| trinikrono | :D hey drew212 | 00:12 |
| drew212 | trinikrono: hey =) | 00:13 |
| drew212 | whats up? | 00:13 |
| trinikrono | this reporter if he uses a ps/2 mouse | 00:13 |
| trinikrono | the system just crashes | 00:13 |
| trinikrono | bug 630459 | 00:13 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 630459 in ubuntu "PS/2 Mouse and Keyboard freezes after some time (ASUS motherboard) (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/630459 | 00:13 |
| trinikrono | i am not sure where to assign the bug | 00:13 |
| drew212 | hmmm | 00:17 |
| trinikrono | drew212: how is your bug coming alot | 00:17 |
| trinikrono | the big one | 00:17 |
| trinikrono | *along | 00:17 |
| drew212 | trinikrono: which one? the one with the opens with... dialogue? | 00:18 |
| trinikrono | the firefox one you are working on as a assignment | 00:18 |
| drew212 | there's a patch upstream for it unfortunately, so I haven't been working on it =X | 00:18 |
| trinikrono | :D | 00:19 |
| drew212 | trinikrono: it sounds like a kernel issue, but i'm not for certain | 00:19 |
| drew212 | kernel or a driver issue | 00:19 |
| trinikrono | but isnt the keyboard stuff controlled from erm | 00:19 |
| trinikrono | hal or x? | 00:19 |
| drew212 | im not sure, i don't debug keyboard/mouse issues on a regular basis =P | 00:20 |
| drew212 | no lights blinking, so no kernel failure... | 00:21 |
| drew212 | LOL, i got a windows looking virus search through a webpage popup... | 00:22 |
| drew212 | told my my C: drive had multiple malware infections... | 00:22 |
| Muscovy | I've seen a few of those. | 00:23 |
| penguin42 | trinikrono: If it also happens outside of X it's definitely kernel, if it happens only in X well it could be either - but when he says it stops responding is it actually just the whole machine and nothing to do with keyboard or mouse? | 00:25 |
| trinikrono | well ill ask that | 00:31 |
| trinikrono | penguin42: if its just the keyboard and mouse its x then? | 00:31 |
| penguin42 | trinikrono: Probably, although it's difficult to tell unless they can try something else like sshing in | 00:43 |
| trinikrono | well i asked | 00:51 |
| trinikrono | hopefully he would play music or something | 00:51 |
| trinikrono | penguin42: you mean the stuff at this page?https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSystemCrash | 00:56 |
| * penguin42 hasn't looked at that page | 00:56 | |
| penguin42 | it's bed time for this penguin - see you all tomorrow | 00:57 |
| trinikrono | gnights | 00:57 |
| trinikrono | hey drew212 you are in BC now right | 01:09 |
| hybridJeffBarnes | I just did a fresh install of 10.04 desktop lucin lynx I updated and created two unprivileged users upon loging into User1 I was able to read User2's files. neither of these was the administrator | 03:20 |
| hybridJeffBarnes | I noted that protections seemed a bit strange | 03:22 |
| bcurtiswx | hybridJeffBarnes, i imagine both sides had the read permission.. | 03:27 |
| hybridJeffBarnes | Owner Group and World read | 03:28 |
| hybridJeffBarnes | This would seem ubuntu was hacked and mistakenly had important files on a net machine. Can anybody confirm? Maybe my iso in my previous downloads folder had been changed by somebody. I put this iso on my usb stick to install. Just put it on a friends computer so I have a need to know. | 03:33 |
| bcurtiswx | all files will have ugo+r | 03:34 |
| bcurtiswx | not all will have write and execute permissions | 03:34 |
| hybridJeffBarnes | why would anybody design a distribution where users can read other users files? | 03:35 |
| bcurtiswx | windows does it | 03:35 |
| bcurtiswx | mac does it | 03:35 |
| bcurtiswx | redhat does it | 03:35 |
| hybridJeffBarnes | unbelievable | 03:36 |
| hybridJeffBarnes | i'm not talking about shared folders I mean all files | 03:36 |
| bcurtiswx | im talking about all files too | 03:36 |
| bcurtiswx | i don't know the logistics behind why, but i see no problem.. if i want files to be private i just chmod | 03:37 |
| yofel | or change the umask if you want new files to be unaccessible | 03:38 |
| bcurtiswx | yofel, yup | 03:38 |
| hybridJeffBarnes | whan I managed a vax 25 or so years ago that would have been considered a disaster if one researcher could read anothers personal stuff | 03:38 |
| hybridJeffBarnes | privacy was the default | 03:39 |
| hybridJeffBarnes | why een assign each user a different password then? | 03:43 |
| bcurtiswx | absolutely, my research is very private at work. It's my life now. It's very much restricted :) | 03:44 |
| bcurtiswx | hybridJeffBarnes, do you want users editing your files? | 03:44 |
| hybridJeffBarnes | I don't want them reading my diary. Owner and group should be given access but world should be done manually | 03:45 |
| bcurtiswx | hybridJeffBarnes, whats so hard about chmod u-r ? | 03:46 |
| hybridJeffBarnes | I should not have to do that every time I create a file | 03:47 |
| bcurtiswx | anyways, this is a channel dedicated to bug triage. Try chatting it up in #ubuntu for support questions | 03:47 |
| hybridJeffBarnes | I'm changing distributions good bye | 03:48 |
| bcurtiswx | thanks for joining, have a great evening | 03:48 |
| bcurtiswx | hey nishh | 03:49 |
| bcurtiswx | nisshh even | 03:49 |
| nisshh | bcurtiswx: hey | 03:50 |
| nigelb | vish: pong? | 04:42 |
| nigelb | vish: on vacation, so I'll be around sparingly, probably ping you back on monday. | 04:43 |
| vish | nigelb: boo! you ruined the moment! ;) | 05:23 |
| nigelb | vish: huh? | 05:23 |
| xavinux | buenas noches a todos | 06:33 |
| xavinux | Good night | 06:33 |
| xavinux | disculpen la molestia, soy nuevo en la lista y me gusstaría si alguien puede explicarme acerca de como colaborar con los Bugs | 06:37 |
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| defendguin | i've got an issue with 10.04... after a recent update, i can't pin point wich one but i've trilled rolling back to an older kernel and it didn't fix it, when i try to suspend my computer hangs and never gets into suspend it just stays on and the only way out is to hold down the power button | 08:48 |
| defendguin | i haven't had any problems in the past several years with the suspend working on this laptop it is very disappointing for this regression to appear all of a sudden | 08:52 |
| defendguin | sorry did someone just say something to me about my suspend issue? the window wasn't open and i tried to suspend but my screen locked up as is typical now | 08:58 |
| charlie-tca | Kernel bug triage summit in #ubuntu-classroom in 14 minutes - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BugTriage/Summit/Maverick | 14:46 |
| JFo | yep yep :) | 14:47 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: kernel bug triage summit, should be a good place if you want to ask about the network card importance again | 15:02 |
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| shadeslayer | yofel: alright .. if you know when it is can you tell me? i have it somewhere in my mail | 15:08 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: it's starting right now in classroom ;) | 15:09 |
| shadeslayer | oh! :D | 15:09 |
| BUGabundo | shrug | 15:10 |
| BUGabundo | java is blowing to bits :( | 15:10 |
| BUGabundo | https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openjdk-6/+bug/635765 | 15:10 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 635765 in openjdk-6 (Ubuntu) "SIGSEGV (0xb) at pc=0x00007faef91177d4, pid=4639, tid=140386956601104 (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] | 15:10 |
| bullgard4 | How should I report a Launchpad bug for Maverik? '~$ ubuntu-bug launchpad'? | 16:28 |
| bullgard4 | s/Maverik/Maverick/ | 16:28 |
| penguin42 | I'm curious what makes the launchpad bug Maverick specific | 16:30 |
| bullgard4 | penguin42: I will answer your question after you answered my question. | 16:34 |
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| penguin42 | bullgard4: Haha erm OK, well I'd report it on launchpad through the webform | 16:34 |
| penguin42 | bullgard4: https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+filebug | 16:34 |
| penguin42 | bullgard4: It'll let you do that for launchpad | 16:35 |
| bullgard4 | penguin42: Your recipe seems to work. -- I notice this bug on Maverick. May be it is due to the fact that the (or my) login procedure is different from that on Ubuntu 10.04.1. | 16:40 |
| penguin42 | bullgard4: OK, so explain what your bug is? | 16:40 |
| bullgard4 | penguin42: Yes, I will write a bug report. I will not do double work but rather give you the bug number in a moment. Ok? | 16:41 |
| penguin42 | sure | 16:41 |
| stlsaint | drew212: looking for server/openssh bugs isnt all that easy as i thought | 16:44 |
| drew212 | stlsaint: i know, its easier to find a package that you like, than a distribution | 16:44 |
| drew212 | most bugs aren't distribution specific, the ones that aren't are usually because they've been updated in a newer distro | 16:45 |
| stlsaint | drew212: yea thats why i choose ssh, but maybe not for a newbie like myself | 16:45 |
| drew212 | there isn't much debugging documentation on openssh | 16:46 |
| drew212 | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProcedures | 16:47 |
| drew212 | stlsaint: you can pick a package from there, most of them contain easy step-by step documentation | 16:48 |
| bullgard4 | penguin42: launchpad bug #635812 | 16:50 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 635812 in launchpad "https://login.launchpad.net/+login is not neatly designed (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/635812 | 16:50 |
| penguin42 | ubot2: What makes it maverick specific? | 16:52 |
| ubot2 | penguin42: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 16:52 |
| * penguin42 fixes fingers | 16:52 | |
| penguin42 | bullgard4: What makes it maverick specific? | 16:52 |
| bullgard4 | penguin42: I told you before: "I notice this bug on Maverick. May be it is due to the fact that the (or my) login procedure is different from that on Ubuntu 10.04.1." | 16:53 |
| penguin42 | bullgard4: Hmm you don't say that in the report | 16:53 |
| stlsaint | drew212: nice, thakns | 16:54 |
| stlsaint | s/thakns/thanks | 16:54 |
| bullgard4 | penguin42: Your statement is correct. I do not have this opening window (form) in Ubuntu 10.04.1 (any longer). | 16:54 |
| drew212 | stlsaint: no problem =) | 16:57 |
| jenkins | where would be the best place to ask about writing apport rules? I have done them and they did work but in mavrick i am getting "this is not a genuine ubuntu package" | 16:57 |
| yofel | jenkins: not sure, but do you get any error on the console? and is this about a ppa package? | 16:59 |
| jenkins | yofel: It is a ppa package the error i am getting is http://paste.ubuntu.com/492230/ | 17:00 |
| yofel | wait, I saw that recently somewhere.. | 17:01 |
| * jenkins hopes | 17:06 | |
| charlie-tca | I thought that was because maverick is development version? | 17:06 |
| yofel | iirc that assertion tries to make sure that the key value contains only alphanumerical characters once '.' '-' and '_' have been removed | 17:07 |
| yofel | ah right, bug 634133 was about the same failure | 17:08 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 634133 in apport (Ubuntu) "AssertionError filing bug using ubuntu-bug network-manager (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/634133 | 17:08 |
| yofel | wait, 'k' should be the key.. | 17:10 |
| jenkins | i have no problem with ubuntu-bug network-manager . When i wrote the apport stuff in lucid it worked which does not make sense why it will not work in maverick | 17:10 |
| yofel | jenkins: can you pastebin your hook please? | 17:10 |
| jenkins | http://paste.ubuntu.com/492237/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/492238/ | 17:11 |
| yofel | ooooh | 17:11 |
| yofel | I think I get it | 17:12 |
| yofel | Quickshot Log 1 has to be Quickshot_Log_1 or Quickshot-Log-1 or Quickshot.Log.1, no spaces allowed | 17:12 |
| yofel | see if changing that helps | 17:13 |
| jenkins | it will take me a few minutes | 17:13 |
| yofel | sure, I'll be here for a while | 17:14 |
| * yofel goes looking at the network manager hook in the meanwhile | 17:14 | |
| jenkins | which line are you talking about? where is the space? | 17:15 |
| jenkins | o i get it | 17:15 |
| jenkins | don't worry | 17:15 |
| jenkins | thanks yofel your ace I would have never got that | 17:17 |
| yofel | you're welcome | 17:18 |
| jenkins | I have to go cook food later | 17:19 |
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| stlsaint | drew212: poke | 17:23 |
| drew212 | stlsaint: yeah? | 17:23 |
| stlsaint | drew212: hey do you know why when in update manager when you update one day it still shows "package information updated XX'days ago"? | 17:23 |
| drew212 | checking | 17:24 |
| drew212 | because you've not updated the package information, you have to click check for that... | 17:26 |
| drew212 | it just means you haven't checked if there are any updates in XX days | 17:26 |
| stlsaint | drew212: but i have | 17:27 |
| drew212 | you clicked check? | 17:27 |
| stlsaint | still showing 34 days | 17:27 |
| stlsaint | drew212: yep yep | 17:27 |
| drew212 | i'm not sure then. have you tried killing the process and opening a new one? | 17:28 |
| stlsaint | kill update manager? i closed out and opened it again yes if thats what you mean | 17:32 |
| drew212 | sounds like a bug. | 17:42 |
| stlsaint | YES :D | 17:43 |
| drew212 | stlsaint: i'm actually on my way out the door though, i have a meeting, ill be back in an hour or so. | 17:43 |
| stlsaint | drew212: cool, thakns | 17:43 |
| stlsaint | thanks | 17:43 |
| * yofel wonders where u-m gets that number from | 17:44 | |
| jibel | yofel, from /var/lib/apt/periodic/update-success-stamp | 18:05 |
| yofel | aah, did a quick glance into the apt cron job but only found update-stamp there. should have looked at the complete folder | 18:07 |
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| njin | hello, if i have a laptop with a UK keyboard layout, if I connect a US keyboard it's layout has to be detected automatically or is normal to set it manually. thanks | 18:32 |
| penguin42 | I think manually | 18:33 |
| yofel | considering that you have to select the keyboard layout in the installer yourself and it's set to the default layout of the language you're currently using, I would say manually | 18:33 |
| penguin42 | system->preferences->Keyboard->layouts | 18:33 |
| njin | i think too, thanks | 18:38 |
| penguin42 | I don't *think* there is a way to have a different layout | 18:40 |
| njin | can you help me with this, he said that there's no way to change a mount point https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/409039 | 19:00 |
| yofel | reading.. | 19:02 |
| yofel | hm, in KDE 4.5, they show up as he describes and are mounted as /media/$LABEL (testing my ntfs partitions here) | 19:07 |
| yofel | also, changing fstab *always* takes effect, but I'm not exactly clear on how dolphin handles those mount points | 19:08 |
| yofel | njin: maybe go to #kubuntu-devel and ask JohntheEchidna what he thinks about this bug, as he was the first one to comment on it | 19:11 |
| yofel | BUT | 19:11 |
| yofel | it seems like he expects that changing fstab entries also adds the mount points for them (as I understand comment #8), this is not the case | 19:13 |
| yofel | probably as setting a non-existent mount point in ubiquity will make the installer create it | 19:14 |
| njin | Yofel: Thanks, i was launching | 19:36 |
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