[00:12] trinikrono: sounds like kernel? i'm not positive tho [00:12] :D hey drew212 [00:13] trinikrono: hey =) [00:13] whats up? [00:13] this reporter if he uses a ps/2 mouse [00:13] the system just crashes [00:13] bug 630459 [00:13] Launchpad bug 630459 in ubuntu "PS/2 Mouse and Keyboard freezes after some time (ASUS motherboard) (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/630459 [00:13] i am not sure where to assign the bug [00:17] hmmm [00:17] drew212: how is your bug coming alot [00:17] the big one [00:17] *along [00:18] trinikrono: which one? the one with the opens with... dialogue? [00:18] the firefox one you are working on as a assignment [00:18] there's a patch upstream for it unfortunately, so I haven't been working on it =X [00:19] :D [00:19] trinikrono: it sounds like a kernel issue, but i'm not for certain [00:19] kernel or a driver issue [00:19] but isnt the keyboard stuff controlled from erm [00:19] hal or x? [00:20] im not sure, i don't debug keyboard/mouse issues on a regular basis =P [00:21] no lights blinking, so no kernel failure... [00:22] LOL, i got a windows looking virus search through a webpage popup... [00:22] told my my C: drive had multiple malware infections... [00:23] I've seen a few of those. [00:25] trinikrono: If it also happens outside of X it's definitely kernel, if it happens only in X well it could be either - but when he says it stops responding is it actually just the whole machine and nothing to do with keyboard or mouse? [00:31] well ill ask that [00:31] penguin42: if its just the keyboard and mouse its x then? [00:43] trinikrono: Probably, although it's difficult to tell unless they can try something else like sshing in [00:51] well i asked [00:51] hopefully he would play music or something [00:56] penguin42: you mean the stuff at this page?https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSystemCrash [00:56] * penguin42 hasn't looked at that page [00:57] it's bed time for this penguin - see you all tomorrow [00:57] gnights [01:09] hey drew212 you are in BC now right [03:20] I just did a fresh install of 10.04 desktop lucin lynx I updated and created two unprivileged users upon loging into User1 I was able to read User2's files. neither of these was the administrator [03:22] I noted that protections seemed a bit strange [03:27] hybridJeffBarnes, i imagine both sides had the read permission.. [03:28] Owner Group and World read [03:33] This would seem ubuntu was hacked and mistakenly had important files on a net machine. Can anybody confirm? Maybe my iso in my previous downloads folder had been changed by somebody. I put this iso on my usb stick to install. Just put it on a friends computer so I have a need to know. [03:34] all files will have ugo+r [03:34] not all will have write and execute permissions [03:35] why would anybody design a distribution where users can read other users files? [03:35] windows does it [03:35] mac does it [03:35] redhat does it [03:36] unbelievable [03:36] i'm not talking about shared folders I mean all files [03:36] im talking about all files too [03:37] i don't know the logistics behind why, but i see no problem.. if i want files to be private i just chmod [03:38] or change the umask if you want new files to be unaccessible [03:38] yofel, yup [03:38] whan I managed a vax 25 or so years ago that would have been considered a disaster if one researcher could read anothers personal stuff [03:39] privacy was the default [03:43] why een assign each user a different password then? [03:44] absolutely, my research is very private at work. It's my life now. It's very much restricted :) [03:44] hybridJeffBarnes, do you want users editing your files? [03:45] I don't want them reading my diary. Owner and group should be given access but world should be done manually [03:46] hybridJeffBarnes, whats so hard about chmod u-r ? [03:47] I should not have to do that every time I create a file [03:47] anyways, this is a channel dedicated to bug triage. Try chatting it up in #ubuntu for support questions [03:48] I'm changing distributions good bye [03:48] thanks for joining, have a great evening [03:49] hey nishh [03:49] nisshh even [03:50] bcurtiswx: hey [04:42] vish: pong? [04:43] vish: on vacation, so I'll be around sparingly, probably ping you back on monday. [05:23] nigelb: boo! you ruined the moment! ;) [05:23] vish: huh? [06:33] buenas noches a todos [06:33] Good night [06:37] disculpen la molestia, soy nuevo en la lista y me gusstaría si alguien puede explicarme acerca de como colaborar con los Bugs === rackIT_AFK is now known as rackIT === rackIT is now known as rackIT_AFK === rackIT_AFK is now known as rackIT [08:48] i've got an issue with 10.04... after a recent update, i can't pin point wich one but i've trilled rolling back to an older kernel and it didn't fix it, when i try to suspend my computer hangs and never gets into suspend it just stays on and the only way out is to hold down the power button [08:52] i haven't had any problems in the past several years with the suspend working on this laptop it is very disappointing for this regression to appear all of a sudden [08:58] sorry did someone just say something to me about my suspend issue? the window wasn't open and i tried to suspend but my screen locked up as is typical now [14:46] Kernel bug triage summit in #ubuntu-classroom in 14 minutes - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BugTriage/Summit/Maverick [14:47] yep yep :) [15:02] shadeslayer: kernel bug triage summit, should be a good place if you want to ask about the network card importance again === JFo is now known as JeremyFoshee === JeremyFoshee is now known as JFo [15:08] yofel: alright .. if you know when it is can you tell me? i have it somewhere in my mail [15:09] shadeslayer: it's starting right now in classroom ;) [15:09] oh! :D [15:10] shrug [15:10] java is blowing to bits :( [15:10] https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openjdk-6/+bug/635765 [15:10] Launchpad bug 635765 in openjdk-6 (Ubuntu) "SIGSEGV (0xb) at pc=0x00007faef91177d4, pid=4639, tid=140386956601104 (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] [16:28] How should I report a Launchpad bug for Maverik? '~$ ubuntu-bug launchpad'? [16:28] s/Maverik/Maverick/ [16:30] I'm curious what makes the launchpad bug Maverick specific [16:34] penguin42: I will answer your question after you answered my question. === yofel_ is now known as yofel [16:34] bullgard4: Haha erm OK, well I'd report it on launchpad through the webform [16:34] bullgard4: https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+filebug [16:35] bullgard4: It'll let you do that for launchpad [16:40] penguin42: Your recipe seems to work. -- I notice this bug on Maverick. May be it is due to the fact that the (or my) login procedure is different from that on Ubuntu 10.04.1. [16:40] bullgard4: OK, so explain what your bug is? [16:41] penguin42: Yes, I will write a bug report. I will not do double work but rather give you the bug number in a moment. Ok? [16:41] sure [16:44] drew212: looking for server/openssh bugs isnt all that easy as i thought [16:44] stlsaint: i know, its easier to find a package that you like, than a distribution [16:45] most bugs aren't distribution specific, the ones that aren't are usually because they've been updated in a newer distro [16:45] drew212: yea thats why i choose ssh, but maybe not for a newbie like myself [16:46] there isn't much debugging documentation on openssh [16:47] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProcedures [16:48] stlsaint: you can pick a package from there, most of them contain easy step-by step documentation [16:50] penguin42: launchpad bug #635812 [16:50] Launchpad bug 635812 in launchpad "https://login.launchpad.net/+login is not neatly designed (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/635812 [16:52] ubot2: What makes it maverick specific? [16:52] penguin42: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [16:52] * penguin42 fixes fingers [16:52] bullgard4: What makes it maverick specific? [16:53] penguin42: I told you before: "I notice this bug on Maverick. May be it is due to the fact that the (or my) login procedure is different from that on Ubuntu 10.04.1." [16:53] bullgard4: Hmm you don't say that in the report [16:54] drew212: nice, thakns [16:54] s/thakns/thanks [16:54] penguin42: Your statement is correct. I do not have this opening window (form) in Ubuntu 10.04.1 (any longer). [16:57] stlsaint: no problem =) [16:57] where would be the best place to ask about writing apport rules? I have done them and they did work but in mavrick i am getting "this is not a genuine ubuntu package" [16:59] jenkins: not sure, but do you get any error on the console? and is this about a ppa package? [17:00] yofel: It is a ppa package the error i am getting is http://paste.ubuntu.com/492230/ [17:01] wait, I saw that recently somewhere.. [17:06] * jenkins hopes [17:06] I thought that was because maverick is development version? [17:07] iirc that assertion tries to make sure that the key value contains only alphanumerical characters once '.' '-' and '_' have been removed [17:08] ah right, bug 634133 was about the same failure [17:08] Launchpad bug 634133 in apport (Ubuntu) "AssertionError filing bug using ubuntu-bug network-manager (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/634133 [17:10] wait, 'k' should be the key.. [17:10] i have no problem with ubuntu-bug network-manager . When i wrote the apport stuff in lucid it worked which does not make sense why it will not work in maverick [17:10] jenkins: can you pastebin your hook please? [17:11] http://paste.ubuntu.com/492237/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/492238/ [17:11] ooooh [17:12] I think I get it [17:12] Quickshot Log 1 has to be Quickshot_Log_1 or Quickshot-Log-1 or Quickshot.Log.1, no spaces allowed [17:13] see if changing that helps [17:13] it will take me a few minutes [17:14] sure, I'll be here for a while [17:14] * yofel goes looking at the network manager hook in the meanwhile [17:15] which line are you talking about? where is the space? [17:15] o i get it [17:15] don't worry [17:17] thanks yofel your ace I would have never got that [17:18] you're welcome [17:19] I have to go cook food later === devildante is now known as devildante[afk] === emma_ is now known as emma [17:23] drew212: poke [17:23] stlsaint: yeah? [17:23] drew212: hey do you know why when in update manager when you update one day it still shows "package information updated XX'days ago"? [17:24] checking [17:26] because you've not updated the package information, you have to click check for that... [17:26] it just means you haven't checked if there are any updates in XX days [17:27] drew212: but i have [17:27] you clicked check? [17:27] still showing 34 days [17:27] drew212: yep yep [17:28] i'm not sure then. have you tried killing the process and opening a new one? [17:32] kill update manager? i closed out and opened it again yes if thats what you mean [17:42] sounds like a bug. [17:43] YES :D [17:43] stlsaint: i'm actually on my way out the door though, i have a meeting, ill be back in an hour or so. [17:43] drew212: cool, thakns [17:43] thanks [17:44] * yofel wonders where u-m gets that number from [18:05] yofel, from /var/lib/apt/periodic/update-success-stamp [18:07] aah, did a quick glance into the apt cron job but only found update-stamp there. should have looked at the complete folder === devildante[afk] is now known as devildante [18:32] hello, if i have a laptop with a UK keyboard layout, if I connect a US keyboard it's layout has to be detected automatically or is normal to set it manually. thanks [18:33] I think manually [18:33] considering that you have to select the keyboard layout in the installer yourself and it's set to the default layout of the language you're currently using, I would say manually [18:33] system->preferences->Keyboard->layouts [18:38] i think too, thanks [18:40] I don't *think* there is a way to have a different layout [19:00] can you help me with this, he said that there's no way to change a mount point https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/409039 [19:02] reading.. [19:07] hm, in KDE 4.5, they show up as he describes and are mounted as /media/$LABEL (testing my ntfs partitions here) [19:08] also, changing fstab *always* takes effect, but I'm not exactly clear on how dolphin handles those mount points [19:11] njin: maybe go to #kubuntu-devel and ask JohntheEchidna what he thinks about this bug, as he was the first one to comment on it [19:11] BUT [19:13] it seems like he expects that changing fstab entries also adds the mount points for them (as I understand comment #8), this is not the case [19:14] probably as setting a non-existent mount point in ubiquity will make the installer create it [19:36] Yofel: Thanks, i was launching === devildante is now known as devildante[afk]