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* bcurtiswx ate too much pizza03:07
faganbcurtiswx: I want pizza now :(03:08
faganno where open though03:08
faganso its just taunting me03:08
bcurtiswxhaha, lots open here still03:08
faganits 3 am here03:08
bcurtiswxgmt+1, ick03:08
bcurtiswxgo to bed03:08
faganI am in bed03:09
fagancant sleep03:09
bcurtiswxahh, have someone hit you in the head with a frying pan?03:09
faganeh id prefer to have some pizza03:09
faganand some booze03:09
* bcurtiswx wonders how pizza in europe is03:10
faganbcurtiswx: america ?03:10
bcurtiswxdepends on where u get it.. i hate chain places03:10
bcurtiswxi like local places03:10
bcurtiswxmore genuine03:10
faganwell europeans invented pizza03:10
* bcurtiswx knows, hency why i wonder03:10
faganso go to italy and get real pizza03:10
bcurtiswxi have a passport, just need an excuse to use it.. lol03:11
faganwell dont you need a visa?03:11
bcurtiswxsame thing :P03:11
faganwell I need a visa waver to get to america03:12
faganbut thats easy to get03:12
bcurtiswxits a passport here, looks like a checkbook03:12
faganwell we have passports too :P03:12
faganand they look really similar03:12
* bcurtiswx thought they were the same03:13
faganexcept the Irish one is a weird brown colour03:13
faganWe should have a green one03:13
bcurtiswxfagan what country are you in exactly?03:13
bcurtiswxah, very nice03:14
* bcurtiswx wants to visit there sometime03:14
bcurtiswxmaybe my honeymoon03:14
faganwell its nice but dont go to dublin :D03:14
bcurtiswxlol, ok03:15
faganits a rip off and the people arent as nice as the rest of the country03:15
bcurtiswxi'll take your word on that03:15
* fagan still has love for dublin but its not as good as everywere else03:15
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alethHi, how do I change the gnome desktop theme from the command line? Is there something like "gnome-appearance-properties <theme-folder>"?09:49
mptvish, yo14:10
mptvish, you know everything there is to know about icon sets. Is there supposed to be an icon somewhere for "Developer Tools" > "OCaml"?14:11
vishmpt: hey, yeah.. it was included in the last update.. it uses their logo > http://caml.inria.fr/ocaml/index.en.html14:12
vishmpt: is it not showing up in SC?14:12
mptvish, how recent was that update? I just installed updates half an hour ago and it's now showing in USC14:13
mptbug 63573214:13
ubot2Launchpad bug 635732 in software-center (Ubuntu) ""OCaml" subsection in "Developer Tools" is missing an icon (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/63573214:13
vishmpt: yeah, i tried the same too , but somehow SC does not pick them up..14:13
vishmpt: i had given mvo the icon names , but just adding the icon names in /data/software-center.menu.in does not seem to do it.. this worked last cycle , not sure where is changed this cycle..14:16
faganOh did you see my bug report about the FPS subsection for the software center mpt I made it about a week back14:16
vishmpt: ah wait!14:17
vishmpt: found the bug! mvo has named that -caml :)14:17
mptfagan, no, I haven't sorry14:17
faganIll go grab a link14:17
vishinstead of -ocaml14:17
mptvish, it's a one-line fix?14:17
* vish just checked the commit, 14:17
ubot2Launchpad bug 626414 in software-center (Ubuntu) "FPS sub genre in games (affects: 1) (heat: 583)" [Undecided,New]14:18
faganThe short story is that I dont think FPS games should be in arcade because they are a lot cooler than all the games in arcade14:19
faganBut I suppose its a little late now14:20
mptfagan, it's a bit more complicated than that, too: there's probably no technical way of distinguishing FPS Arcade games from non-FPS ones right now. See <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareCenter#Genre>, and my last two comments in bug 475773.14:31
ubot2Launchpad bug 475773 in software-center (Ubuntu) ""Get Software" category lists are too long (affects: 2) (heat: 22)" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/47577314:31
mptvish, thanks for that. :-) Now, is there a Lisp icon too?14:33
vishmpt: thats the lisp icon.. ;p14:34
vishmpt: i couldnt think of anything better.. ;p  feel free to suggest anything better for natty :)14:34
mptvish, it's not any of the icons mentioned on http://xahlee.org/UnixResource_dir/writ/logo_lisp.html14:35
mptany of the logos, I mean14:35
faganah ok mpt14:35
vishmpt: doh! i kept asking here , that i had no clue for that icon .. i blame you for not noticing my random rant here ! ;p14:36
vishmpt: i did notice the lizard thingy , but that is for lisp common or something.. , while lisp seemed for everything else..14:36
mptvish, http://xahlee.org/emacs/lisp_logo.html would be nice if the licensing could be sorted out14:40
vishmpt: cool! not sure if we'd get an update for that icon alone... can you convince someone to update humanity for that icon?  i can get that done in 48px though..14:41
mptvish, dude, licensing14:42
vishboo licenses ;p14:42
mptFirst we'd need to mail Xah Lee and say something like, "Here's what Ubuntu Software Center's 'Developer Tools' section looks lke without a proper logo for Lisp. Would you be ok with relicensing yours so that we can use it?"14:43
mptI'm not supposing that would get done in time for 10.10. :-)14:44
vishhmm.. or.. we dont have to do something exactly the same, and avoid license?14:44
mptCopyright for graphical things doesn't work that way14:45
* vish not sure about any licenses.. :)14:45
vishheh! i was trying to find a link to something reasonable from > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LISP14:46
vishbut never found that page :(14:46
mptIANAL, but our Lisp icon would need to be about as different from any existing logo as our Java icon is from the official Java logo14:46
vishhehe , we could have a stuttering tongue ;p14:49
mptOr some nice brackets: "((()))"14:49
vishmpt: brackets? why? not sure i understand how that fits..14:53
mptvish, Lisp is (in)famous for its heavy use of brackets14:53
vishmpt: btw, what gtk theme are you using?  the green scrollbars seem unfamiliar14:57
devildantempt is here in weekend? Impossible :p14:57
devildantebtw, hi all :)14:57
mptvish, Elementary, with colors changed in Appearance14:58
mptHi devildante :-)14:58
vishdevildante: mpt is a workaholic.. ;)14:58
devildantehi, mpt, vish :)14:58
devildantevish: :p he's still a great guy :)14:58
vish ;p14:58
mptdevildante, do you know who did the History code?15:10
devildantempt, no :(15:10
devildantempt, I'll search in bzr log15:11
mptoh, it doesn't matter that much, it's just quite buggy15:11
devildantempt, care to report bugs? (or give me the bug numbers)15:13
mptoh, I hadn't noticed you were already working on bug 63519815:15
ubot2Launchpad bug 635198 in software-center (Ubuntu) "History shows dates out of order (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/63519815:15
mptthere's bug 63519315:15
ubot2Launchpad bug 635193 in software-center (Ubuntu) "History doesn't show anything I installed (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/63519315:15
mptAnd it's not collating applications together15:15
mpte.g. I installed Freeciv with a capital F, and that shows up as four separate entries: "freeciv-client-gtk installed" "ggzcore-bin installed" "freeciv-data installed" "freeciv-server installed"15:16
mptI guess a lot of it is just stuff I didn't have time to specify, and I'm just whining :-)15:19
devildantempt, since the long-term goal is to replace synaptic, I think this is the good behavior15:19
devildantempt, unless you want the application name shown, but that would break UI freeze15:20
mptI guess for Natty we should have a "Show technical items" toggle like we do elsewhere15:20
devildantempt, yes, that would be cool!15:21
vishmpt: WIP > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1325768/applications-lisp.png  ?15:29
devildantevish, what's that?15:30
vishdevildante: http://www.j-paine.org/dobbs/whats_with.html15:31
vishdevildante: an icon for lisp..15:31
devildanteah, okay, thx :)15:31
mptdevildante, clearly, it's a pram <http://www.spiderpic.com/stock-photos/dreamstime/4032502-pram-for-baby-girl> as seen through a rainbow15:32
* mpt hides15:32
devildantempt, can you see last comment on bug 635138 ? What's your opinion?15:33
ubot2Launchpad bug 635138 in software-center (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Apt cache repair "In Progress" text is "Repairing broken deps" (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/63513815:33
mptvish, what do the colors represent?15:33
vishmpt: just different lines of code.. instead of a monotonous single color for the background..15:34
mptdevildante, +1 to glatzor's suggestion. I've commented.15:36
devildantempt, great15:37
mptvish, programming editors often color nested brackets to clarify which "(" matches which ")". You could get color that way.15:37
devildantempt, will changes in trunk affect Maverick, or do we have to backport to the 3.0 branch?15:38
vishmpt: yeah.. thats why i went for the background colors..15:39
* vish tries colors for the brackets alone15:39
mptdevildante, I asked mvo about that a few days ago (Monday, I think), and he said he was planning to merge trunk into the 3.0 branch, and that trunk was therefore "frozen" to anything that wasn't suitable for 3.0. That might have changed since, but even if it has, I don't expect he'll be taking much time to review non-3.0 stuff before the Final Freeze.15:40
devildantempt, thanks :)15:41
mptdevildante, also, you probably know this already, but keep in mind that the more bugs you fix in a single branch (e.g. your "fixing-random-bugs"), the more likely it is that there will be a problem with one of the fixes, so the less likely it is that the branch will be merged for 3.0 at all.15:45
devildantempt, okay, thanks for the info :)15:45
vishmpt: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1325768/applications-lisp1.png ?16:01
mptvish, much better16:02
vishcool.. will finish it.. :)16:02
_dougyo ..16:44
devildante /join #ubuntu-tour16:44
devildantewhoops, sorry for disturb :p16:45
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mpthi glatzor19:45
faganoh mpt I added all the competing services to that wiki19:46
faganI think its almost complete now19:46
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bcurtiswxah ha, i know what the messaging menu is missing the option of.20:07
bcurtiswxthe option to ignore an IM (or "x" it out)20:07
bcurtiswxsince its too late for MM, NN will hopefully get that20:08
vishbcurtiswx: file a bug! ;)20:14
bcurtiswxj/k :P i was already on it, but like always I find a billion distractions along the way20:15
mptthanks fagan20:32
faganI prob should make better wire frames20:32
faganbut hey im not an artist :P20:32
* mpt finds a one-line fix for bug 53899120:39
ubot2Launchpad bug 538991 in gephi/0.7 (and 1 other project) "Mutual edges not imported when undirected (affects: 1) (heat: 1)" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/53899120:39
mptor I should say, 53891120:39
mptbug 53891120:40
ubot2Launchpad bug 538911 in software-center (Ubuntu) ""Developer Tools" > "Debugging" has no items (affects: 3) (heat: 34)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/53891120:40
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