[04:03] <ogasawara> cnd: just tested my hp mini fully up to date with the 2.6.35-20.29 maverick kernel and it's suspending/resuming just fine
[12:09] <akgraner> apw - I haven't had a chance to look at it - I got to Ohio and have been busy busy  - but as soon as I get some quiet time with computer for more than 5 minutes today  - I will finish testing it.. :-)
[14:45] <nanomad> are there any chances we can see the patch posted in bug #601299 applied to maverick kernel? 
[14:45] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 601299 in linux (Ubuntu) "maverick btrfs slow install (affects: 19) (dups: 1) (heat: 187)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/601299
[14:49] <apw> JFo, yo
[14:50] <JFo> heya apw 
[14:50] <apw> you mumbling ?
[14:51] <apw> JFo, ^
[14:51] <JFo> not yet
[14:51] <JFo> one sec...
[15:03] <apw> akgraner, about ?  needing some help with classbot, think you might know who to hastle
[15:13] <shadeslayer> hi i have a question regarding the network card being under medium here : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Importance 
[15:13] <shadeslayer> imo without proper network card detection the system is not usable for the long run
[15:13] <shadeslayer> so, the importance should be set to high
[15:14] <apw> shadeslayer, though if its card specific it by definition affects a subset of users
[15:14] <apw> a networking fault wihch affects all networking cards would be more important than that
[15:14] <apw> so one has to put some things at not the higher priorities to leave space for the truly broard ranging effects
[15:14] <apw> and bugs
[15:15] <shadeslayer> apw: so High is for broad ranging effects due to a issue in the kernel? ( wrt networking )
[15:15] <apw> shadeslayer, we do apply a degree of common sense, but generally affecting all users raises priority
[15:16] <apw> crashes which affect some users more likely to be medium, those which affect all of a machine are likely to be medium unless its a very common machine
[15:16] <apw> crashes which affect all users are critical
[15:16] <apw> but one does have to use ones discression
[15:16] <shadeslayer> oh ok.. 
[15:17] <apw> that is why being a triager is so important :)
[15:18] <apw> i suspect that better defining how we use levels is something which you guys can help with as you learn
[15:18] <apw> shadeslayer, that make sense to you ?
[15:18] <shadeslayer> yeah :)
[15:19] <shadeslayer> so if i find alot of users have the same problem, but different network cards, the importance can be set to high
[15:19] <shadeslayer> but if its one card, and alot of users, its medium
[15:20] <shadeslayer> s/one/the same
[15:22] <apw> shadeslayer, yeah unless that is the very most common card
[15:22] <shadeslayer> ok
[15:30] <nigelb> what's brad figg's irc nick?
[15:30] <apw> nigelb, bjf normally
[15:30] <nigelb> apw: thanks
[15:30] <nigelb> if you folks can decide who's going to be on for the last session, we can set classbot up
[15:31] <diwic> nigelb, I'm holding the audio session primarily
[15:31] <nigelb> so, you want both your names opo'd?
[15:31] <nigelb> oh, wait, if you folks can confirm the schedule right now, we can update the schedule
[15:31] <nigelb> 
[15:32] <nigelb> http://people.ubuntu.com/~nhandler/classroom.html
[15:34] <apw> diwic, you are doing the audio arn't you ?
[15:34] <diwic> nigelb, so the Audio/Pulse session should say my name (David Henningsson) as instructor. I don't know if bjf will show up, so keep him as an instructor as well 
[15:34] <nigelb> sconklin: are you confirmed for the next session?
[15:34] <nigelb> diwic: it should actually be your irc nicknames
[15:34] <nigelb> we are correcting now :)
[15:35] <nigelb> And, who are the folks you want added as instructor for the last session?
[15:35] <apw> and the forth slot is going to be a general Q&A I think, so it would be useful to have JFo sconklin diwic and apw on that one
[15:35] <nigelb> awesome, thanks
[15:35] <nigelb> apw: steve conklin is going to be around for the next one right?
[15:36] <apw> nigelb, yeah sconklin is about already ... you're on the video one right sconklin 
[15:36] <sconklin> yes
[15:36] <nigelb> \o/
[15:37] <nigelb> And the last session is generic Q and A right?
[15:37] <nigelb> I mean not about the usb/bluetooth, etc right?
[15:37] <JFo> yeah, I need to change the wiki page
[15:37] <apw> right a Q&A Session
[15:37] <nigelb> ok, changing schedule
[15:37] <nigelb> thank you folks!
[15:38] <diwic> nigelb, thanks for the assistance 
[15:38] <nigelb> diwic: no problem, classroom team is always happy to help :)
[15:52] <diwic> nigelb, just to nit-pick, there are two "are" in the message ClassBot just said. :-)
[15:52] <nigelb> diwic: ah, bug
[15:52]  * nigelb goes to file it
[16:10] <diwic> sconklin, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Architecture
[16:58] <diwic> apw, yes I am
[17:00] <JFo> I have created a survey for the Summit: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/J3WBZCC
[17:00] <JFo> it will be open for the next week for responses
[17:00] <JFo> I'll tweet it once the sessions are over
[17:00] <JFo> probably a good idea to tout it during the Q&A
[17:01] <JFo> ready diwic 
[17:01] <JFo> ?
[17:01] <diwic> Jfo, yes
[17:02] <JFo> excellent
[17:02] <JFo> the floor is yours
[17:02] <sconklin> thanks for the help!
[17:12] <JFo> apw, how do you set the PTT on mumble?
[17:12] <JFo> having trouble figuring that out
[17:12] <JFo> apparently I neglected to do that on this machine
[17:13] <apw> JFo, two parts
[17:13] <JFo> ok
[17:13] <apw> firstly in audio settings there is a tikky for it
[17:14] <JFo> for the selection of push to talk
[17:14] <JFo> got that
[17:14] <apw> then go to shortcuts, and add a new shortcut
[17:14] <JFo> ah
[17:14] <apw> totally not obvious
[17:14] <JFo> not at all
[17:15] <JFo> that bit was what I had issues with
[17:15] <JFo> hence part of the reason it was hard to hear me earlier :)
[17:32] <JFo> apw, I'm getting pulled away by my family. It seems that I got the time wrong in my brain for the family reunion.
[17:32] <JFo> I had it an hour in the other direction instead of the correct one
[17:32] <apw> jfo ok
[17:32] <JFo> will you guys be good without me for the Q&A?
[17:33] <JFo> apw, ^
[17:33] <JFo> here is the survey for the Summit also: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/J3WBZCC
[17:33] <apw> we'll have to be
[17:33] <JFo> :-/
[17:34] <apw> JFo, we need to get you an admin
[17:34] <JFo> I know huh?
[17:34] <JFo> I'm the worst at scheduling apparently
[17:34] <JFo> my aunt is chewing me out now
[17:34] <JFo> on the phone
[17:34] <JFo> it is pretty funny actually
[17:35] <apw> i am just as bad
[17:35] <JFo> the stupid thing is they told me the time
[17:35] <JFo> and I am in the TZ now
[17:35] <apw> david is doing a very good job
[17:35] <JFo> but for some reason I calculated it the other way
[17:36] <JFo> he is indeed 
[17:36] <apw> JFo, spanner
[17:36] <apw> go
[17:36] <JFo> I am quite pleased with the sessions
[17:36] <JFo> apw, :-)
[17:36] <JFo> k, I'll leave the machine on and check back in later
[17:36] <JFo> to see what I missed
[17:38] <apw> JFo, you'll have missed us volunteering you to buy the beer in taipai
[17:39] <smb> I'd prefer Orlando
[17:39] <apw> smb, i am having yours
[17:40] <bjf[afk]> smb: i'm afraid we are all going to be disappointed by the beer in orlando
[17:40] <smb> hm, too heavy to bring some with me this time... 
[17:40] <smb> apw, I bet you do. ba***rd
[18:33] <apw> clap4ham
[18:33] <apw> won't be using that one any more then
[18:41] <bjf> heh
[18:46] <faibistes> hello, I have connection issues with my rt3090 wifi card
[18:47] <faibistes> cam anybody help or redirect me to the right channerl?
[20:56] <dgtombs> i'm looking at various triage-related wiki pages after the summit today to see if i can work in some of the information that was discussed there
[20:56] <dgtombs> right now i'm taking a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BugTriage/Process and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BugTriage
[20:56] <dgtombs> i don't think those two have to be separate pages
[20:57] <dgtombs> so i think it might be good to move some text from /Process onto the main page
[20:57] <dgtombs> any thoughts?
[22:15] <JFo> apw, nothing unusual there
[22:15] <JFo> bjf[afk], smb, If pete and I drive like it looks like we will, we may take orders for 'stuff to bring' :)
[22:22] <apw> dgtombs,glad to hear you are looking, we are trying to keep the top level pages in each section as a jump off point, so as we add new information they will grow
[22:37] <dgtombs> apw: thanks. is that documented somewhere?
[23:42] <drew2121> do i need to open a bug report if kernel isn't detecting my touchpad correctly?