=== `mOOse` is now known as m00se === fran is now known as Guest93445 === Guest93445 is now known as francisco === francisco is now known as fc === fc is now known as Guest90220 [01:37] oh yay... now X is completely making the screen go blank [01:38] \o === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [02:05] doesn't seem to be any problems in Xorg log - http://pastebin.com/TcqH50ka - but now as i reboot the xfce mouse shows up & then the screen goes blank... turning the monitor off & then back on shows the desktop for about 2 seconds & then goes blank again :( === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [02:55] When i boot xubuntu to install off the live cd, it goes to black screen. i think it might be my intel onboard graphics? [04:25] hey anybody around? [04:30] hey julian_ [04:30] are you good with xubuntu? [04:31] * psycho_oreos peers in [04:31] nope - just starting [04:31] !anyone| jimisrvrox [04:31] jimisrvrox: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? [04:31] hey guys ive got an issue and havent a clue as to what to do....I boot up the machine (ubuntu) and when it gets to the login screen my keyboard/mouse freeze. I can replug my mouse and it will move but my kb doesnt come back...what do I need to edit or do for my keyboard to work during login? [04:32] what is best touchpad support? [04:33] How to turn off tapping while typing [04:33] jimisrvrox, which xubuntu version is this? [04:34] Xubuntu 9.10 just downloaded and installed [04:34] julian_, I think you'll find that the touchpad support is driver specific if you're talking about the differences with driver support [04:35] 9.10 [04:35] somebody was saying it had to do with AL [04:35] HAL* [04:35] Thanks, I need to rtfm before asking again. I will be back. [04:36] problem is even starting in recovery mode kb shuts off [04:36] so I cant do the ps aux to check for the hal process [04:36] jimisrvrox, hmm, it could be HAL related issue, which is generally alleviated in latter versions of xubuntu [04:36] obviously I also couldnt reach a terminal either [04:38] are the keyboard and mouse sharing the same USB? (i.e. keyboard and mouse are PS/2 and you have a converter to make them share one USB port) [04:38] so...the last messages I get are init: udevtrigger main process (253) terminated with status 1 next message applies to (254) then (252) killed by TERM signal now..the 254 message is the same as 253 only number changed [04:38] no [04:38] kb is ps2 and mouse is usb [04:38] hmm [04:39] what I can do though...is let it load all the way to the login screen and I can unplug the mouse and replug and it will move...but the keyboard just flashes and goes off again [04:39] yeah udev quit abnormally, but that message isn't very verbose :/ [04:40] would you happen to have a USB to PS/2 converter to convert the USB mouse into PS/2? [04:41] unfortunately not [04:43] bugger, if you unplugged the mouse, the keyboard works? [04:43] no [04:45] ok, is this computer the same machine you're chatting to me with? [04:45] no [04:46] see if you can get into grub menu, I don't know about grubv2 but I recall its Esc button for v1, edit the kernel line to boot into console mode [04:48] well I can log into the grub menu [04:48] let me do that [04:48] but I can only log into recovery mode..select which kernel to use [04:49] yeah and there should be a button to hit to edit the command line, `e' is for v1, give that a go [04:49] ok give me a minute [04:51] ok im into the edit mode [04:51] now what/ [04:51] edit the kernel line and append 2 [04:53] ok im not an expert at this stuff so.... [04:53] Ive got the kernel line selected [04:54] and so go into edit mode on the kernel line [04:54] and add what/ [04:54] the number "2" without the quotes at the end [04:55] ok so then it would read ro quiet splash 2 [04:56] delete the words splash [04:57] ok added the number 2 to the end of hte line and told it to boot.. [04:57] keyboard went off [04:57] again [04:58] did it boot GUI? [04:59] it boots but no kb [05:01] instead of 2, replace it with single [05:02] after runnign /scripts/init-bottom it sorta freezes and then brings up fsck [05:02] fschk* [05:03] and where the keyboard shuts off is where it shows the starting up.... and then the screen goes black for a millisecond and then comes back with starting up... when it comes back to the starting up...tthats where the led's go off [05:07] is this with 2 or with single? [05:08] thats with 2 [05:08] try now with single [05:09] added the word single to the end... [05:09] same result [05:09] instead of 2 and deleted the word splash? [05:10] yup [05:10] and you still get GUI? [05:14] yup [05:16] you're not editing it right, normally it shouldn't boot into GUI [05:17] umm yeah I went and edited the kernel line..then pressed b to boot [05:17] and it went to the gui [05:19] strange...if I dont add it to the kernel line..and add single at the end of the stuff..the machine restarts! [05:20] I am using xubuntu and the deafult network program network manager. I have been trying for a while to connect my machine to my home network wirelessly. The network currently has no security and works on windows machines, but on my linux machine I keep getting " (wlan0): DHCP transaction took too long, stopping it." in the log file. Can someone please help me? [05:20] it has to be added in the kernel line, under v1 you normally hit enter which would show you what grub would boot up the option as [05:21] heres something else thats strange.. [05:21] when the led's go off..and its at the starting up screen...I can press ctrl+alt+pause..and alpha-numeric characters show up [05:24] ^[[P is what I get when pressing ctrl alt pause [05:26] that's somewhat typical [05:27] somebody is saying that I might not have SAK turned on [05:27] how would I turn that on in the kernel line? [05:27] I've never heard of SAK [05:29] im afraid my distro might be bricked! [05:30] it isn't bricked and distro can't be bricked, if anything its the kernel but if the kernel is bricked you won't even be able to boot it up normally let alone getting into X [05:30] have you given 10.04 a try? [05:32] thats what im working with! [05:32] you said you had 9.10 [05:33] oh heh sorry [05:33] so which one is it? 9.10 or 10.04? [05:33] see if I could get into a console.. [05:33] 10.04 as far as I know [05:34] yeah [05:34] 10.04 [05:34] 10.04 and 9.10 has different kernel versions, and afaik ubuntu by default would have the versions printed in grub menu [05:34] it does [05:35] have you tried plugging usb mouse into other usb ports? [05:35] mouse is fine [05:35] I can plug/unplug it [05:35] keyboard doesnt resond [05:35] respond* [05:35] and its a ps2 [05:36] I'm thinking it could also be IRQ issue :p [05:36] do remember that before you could edit the grub menu which is a perfect indication that it was working [05:36] oh god.. [05:36] its been a LONG time since IRQ issues! [05:37] and yeah its rare for that to happen but buggy bios/controllers can mess up setup sometimes [05:38] HAL issue wouldn't apply in this case if you're also using 10.04 as afaik xorg is now HAL-free along with the rest of the programs [05:38] see if I could access the console.. [05:38] I would just cp the /home dir over to a flash drive and wipe this b** clean...and throw on linux mint [05:39] yeah another guy was saying just disable usb legacy support [05:39] in bios [05:39] linux mint should have a live desktop if you didn't get the alternative version [05:39] that might also help, disabling USB legacy support [05:43] turned off usb controller.. [05:43] did nothing [05:47] sabot: ive had that issue before.. [05:47] and the best thing to do is to take your interface down and put it back up [05:47] theres two commands and I dont remember them..but they take nm down and start it back up [05:53] well I know its an OS problem because I just booted the live CD and keyboard and everything works fine [05:54] for 10.04? [05:58] yeah [05:59] im just gonna overwrite the xubuntu with mint for now === jimisrvrox_ is now known as jimisrvrox === crazygir is now known as Guest95077 [10:03] Can someone help me control my CPU-/fan speed? [10:21] Hi! [10:22] hai [10:22] i've got a problem with wireless connection [10:23] I don't know how to scan wireless connection [10:24] *connections [10:25] Can someone help me plz? [10:25] use networkmanager, click on the network manager icon [10:25] !networkmanager [10:25] networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager [10:27] is "Network connections" the same? === crazygir is now known as Guest40030 [10:31] from where? right click on the icon and click on about [10:32] I'm on xubuntu, there's not network manager (now i'm using another computer) [10:33] there should be, which version of xubuntu you installed? [10:34] 10.04 [10:34] Lucid Lynx [10:36] well there should be an icon for it, look for something like two computers in an icon [10:38] well... i think that network connection is the same [10:38] it looks like [10:38] network manager [10:38] next to the clock [10:38] yeah [10:41] i tried iwconfig on the terminal end there's no wireless connections [10:41] *and [10:41] pastebin (not paste) your lspci -nnk output [10:43] lo no wireless extensions [10:44] eth0 no wireless extensions. [10:45] !pastebin | Gianabana [10:45] Gianabana: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [10:47] the xubuntu computer is not connected, i cannot pastebin anything, i can only rewrite [10:47] Gianabana, you could rewrite in pastebin, thanks [10:47] well physically hook up the network cable [10:48] !pastebin [10:48] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [10:48] or do sneaker net style [10:58] psycho_oreos here i am [10:59] Gianabana, on the xubuntu computer? go into terminal and type in "lspci -nnk" (without quotes), copy and paste that into websites like pastebin.com [11:01] gianni@gianni-laptop:~$ sudo iwconfig [11:01] [sudo] password for gianni: [11:01] lo no wireless extensions. [11:01] eth0 no wireless extensions. [11:02] I didn't say iwconfig and knome said to use pastebin [11:03] gianni@gianni-laptop:~$ lspci -nnk [11:03] 00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: ATI Technologies Inc RS200/RS200M AGP Bridge [IGP 340M] [1002:cbb2] (rev 02) [11:03] Kernel driver in use: agpgart-ati [11:03] Kernel modules: ati-agp [11:03] 00:01.0 PCI bridge [0604]: ATI Technologies Inc PCI Bridge [IGP 340M] [1002:7010] [11:03] Kernel modules: shpchp [11:03] 00:06.0 Multimedia audio controller [0401]: ALi Corporation M5451 PCI AC-Link Controller Audio Device [10b9:5451] (rev 02) [11:03] Kernel driver in use: ALI 5451 [11:04] Kernel modules: snd-ali5451 [11:04] 00:07.0 ISA bridge [0601]: ALi Corporation M1533/M1535/M1543 PCI to ISA Bridge [Aladdin IV/V/V+] [10b9:1533] [11:04] Kernel modules: alim7101_wdt, alim1535_wdt [11:04] 00:08.0 Modem [0703]: ALi Corporation M5457 AC'97 Modem Controller [10b9:5457] [11:04] 00:0a.0 CardBus bridge [0607]: O2 Micro, Inc. OZ601/6912/711E0 CardBus/SmartCardBus Controller [1217:6972] [11:04] Kernel driver in use: yenta_cardbus [11:04] Kernel modules: yenta_socket [11:04] 00:0b.0 USB Controller [0c03]: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller [1106:3038] (rev 50) [11:04] Gianabana, PLEASE use pastebin. [11:04] !pastebin | Gianabana [11:04] Gianabana: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [11:05] * psycho_oreos thinks someone is struggling to comprehend, probably because of language barrier [11:05] Gianabana, understood? [11:06] i've been on ubuntu.pastebi.com [11:06] Gianabana, yes, please paste your outputs there, and give us the link [11:06] Gianabana, do NOT paste directly into the channel [11:06] ah! Ok, understood [11:07] I'm really sorry, i had not understood [11:07] here is it [11:07] http://paste.ubuntu.com/492074/ [11:08] Gianabana, no problem, glad to have it sorted out :) [11:08] :) [11:08] there's also an italian ubuntu channel [11:08] !it [11:08] Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette) [11:08] they do also answer for xubuntu-related questions [11:08] but feel free to ask here as well of course [11:09] thank you so much [11:09] no problem [11:10] you don't have wireless card, not from that pasted output [11:12] isn't it like windows? I' mean: if don't have the right driver the computer doesn't recognize the hardware [11:13] 1) linux isn't windows 2) if your tv doesn't have microwave function, can you actually put microwave in it to become microwave as well? [11:14] 3) and no it seems like the linux kernel couldn't see it, so its either powered off or disconnected or there's no such device [11:15] i said "like windows" because it was the easiest way to explain it [11:15] so... no wireless card, good... [11:18] thank you so much [11:18] sorry for my bad english [11:19] maybe its wireless USB dongle? [11:20] no, i've not got it [11:21] i thought there was a built in wireless card [11:23] well it doesn't appear like it does [11:23] or maybe a damaged/dead card [11:23] is it difficult to set a usb wireless dongle? [11:24] as long as you buy a supported chipset that is inside the usb wireless dongle [11:26] which one is supported? [11:26] some dlink maybe.. depends on your budget [11:27] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported [11:27] i have an asus dongle that works [11:27] wasn't that expensive [11:28] # [11:28] " The Free Software Foundation recommends the Ralink 2500/RT2400 and Realtek RTL8180 chipsets. " [11:28] I wouldn't recommend: netgear, belkin, trendnet, linksys, and 3com... they all have very bad versioning [11:29] ath9k_htc supports usb devices along with ar9170/carl9170, which brings atheros 802.11n capable wireless usb chipsets to supported state [11:34] welli... i'll see [11:34] +well [11:34] *well [11:36] and I generally recommend ones with external antenna connectors, such as RP-SMA.. they're mostly on less well known brands but they usually feature well supported chipsets plus they allow you to have better connectivity should you decide to connect to a better antenna, etc [11:38] thank u so much [11:39] maybe i'll purchase one of theme [11:39] hawking/edimax/alfa/ubiquiti would be the ones I definitely recommend [11:40] you pay more but you also pay more for reassurance that you're not going to get screwed around with some unsupported chipset that will give you more headaches [11:41] sure [11:45] thank you so much [11:45] maybe i'll buy one of them [11:45] bye [11:57] I can set only a poor resolution for my external CRT in 10.04, 9.10 is better. 1024x768 is in the output of xrandr, however. [12:21] I guess this is the case: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/Resolution#Problem:%20%20Resolution%20with%20Intel%20graphics%20was%20correct%20in%20Intrepid/Jaunty/Karmic%20%28with%20no%20xorg.conf%20configuration%29%20but%20is%20limited%20in%20Lucid [13:14] hu [13:15] hi [13:29] hello! Is there any telephony/sms software for ubuntu/linux? i am not talking about VoIP - i've got an integrated modem and a SIM card... [13:53] mobile broadband? [13:55] psycho_oreos: no, a regular old-fashioned phone call as i using a cell phone... [13:55] *as if [13:56] psycho_oreos: i tried ofono and smstools, the first doesn't work and as for smstools, i don't have the slightest idea how to start the programme... [13:58] nicofs, no I doubt it, I personally don't think there are many tools for normal phones. Most of them I know are proprietary and can only do a handful of things [13:58] psycho_oreos: well... sending an sms would be a good start... [14:02] nicofs, I know nokia pc-suite for nokia phones (windows only) allows one to send and receive SMS through their computer [14:03] minicom [14:04] (sorry, android-irc) [14:04] psycho_oreos: i was thinking of such a software... i am trying to realise some sort of all-in-one device in using my netbook to phone, chat and write sms when stationary... some sort of communication hub... [14:06] nicofs, I personally am not aware of many as such, these sorts of stuff are quite ironically funny to be missing or part thereof under linux, vendors just don't see linux as a formidable platform to work with hence the lack of support as such [14:06] minicom can send sms at least [14:06] Nicofs, do you have google voice? It allows sending sms - but through a google voice number. [14:07] minicom allows one to communicate with the device via serial/parallel/USB communication ports.. but it doesn't do much when you don't know the serial codes to make certain devices send and receive :) [14:07] err send and receive SMS [14:08] almost all phones have some sort of proprietary communication protocol in which they interface with the host computer [14:09] my friend sent sms from netbook through samsung galaxy, with minicom [14:09] the thing is... when i'm at home or in my office, i have my netbook running skype, icq and such anyway... and the headset strapped to my head. i might as well put my sim card into my netbook and use that one headset for all calls... and the comfortable qwertz-keyboard for chat and sms... [14:10] galaxy? runs android.. yeah linux phones can probably do that with certain amounts of ease [14:13] the best thing would be some sort of Sim-support in skype... [14:15] you should email that request/feature to skype, it has nothing to do with ubuntu [14:15] i know... it was just a thought about a perfect world^^ [14:16] welcome to reality where everything is real :P [14:16] and no like I said there's limited programs written for linux to have telephony support [14:34] Hello. [15:25] hi [15:26] !grub [15:26] grub is the default boot manager for Ubuntu releases before Karmic (9.10). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto - See !grub2 for Karmic onwards. [15:27] i need to configure the list of options in grub can someone tell what file is ?? [15:31] i have 9 xubuntu should i update or not ?? [15:31] xubuntu 9.what? [15:33] subspider: in a terminal, lsb_release -a [15:34] hello charlie-tca [15:34] thnks [15:34] That will tell us the version you have [15:35] 9.10 [15:35] karmic [15:35] is xubuntu 10.04 good [15:37] if you use wireless, then no [15:37] Okay, 9.10 is good until April 2011 [15:37] ridin, excuse me? [15:37] ridin: doesn't that depend on the wireless card? [15:37] yes [15:37] but all wireless cards i got just don't like xubuntu [15:38] ridin, please stop spreading the negative attitude and scaring people from upgrading [15:38] So, for YOU, it is not good [15:38] yes. [15:38] but for dsl and modem people, it's good [15:38] and for many with wireless [15:38] well, too bad i'm on lucid with wlan that worked ootb [15:38] which actually never earlier did work ootb [15:39] so it's definitely an improvement [15:40] complete opposite [15:40] i'm sorry, but that's no reason to spread negative attitude. please stop it. [15:41] idk, i'm the only one with this problem ;x [15:41] ridin, probably not [15:42] ridin, have you tried using other kernel versions? [15:42] i'm using karmic, or at least a distro based from karmic [15:42] only 32-14 iirc works [15:43] so why not use that? and what does 'distro based from karmic [15:43] ... ' mean [15:43] you can't get it in 10.04 [15:43] linux mint 8 [15:43] okay, this is not a mint support channel. [15:44] i know that. [15:44] but we were birdwalking :p [15:44] i have xubuntu it's working great just afraid of upgrading [15:44] subspider, if you're happy with what you have, then you don't need to upgrade [15:44] unless you wanna give it a shot [15:44] thnks [15:44] ok [15:45] subspider: grab a desktop cd and try it. If it works, upgrading should be fine [15:45] i upgrage from 8 to 9 [15:45] so [15:45] maybe later [15:45] lol [15:45] Just make sure to read the release notes first [15:45] ok charlie-tca [15:46] subspider, quick question, what's your wireless [15:46] ridin, please stop that. [15:47] ints intel [15:47] okay, i have no clue with that stuff [15:47] 2200 W [15:48] but sorry to say almost evrywireless work with xubuntu [15:48] at least for me [15:48] have dlink [15:48] broadcom the worst i've seen [15:48] but work great [15:49] there's an open-source driver for broadcom now [15:50] ridin, you always can use ndiswrapper [15:50] yea i know now i have that working [15:50] :) === jack is now known as Guest16876 [15:52] i can't edit gub.cfg [15:52] can someone help [15:52] you're not supposed to [15:53] the most special thing of using linux is the ability to configure the things so it's sopose to be a way of editing entries of grub [15:54] subspider, grub2 is not using grub.conf [15:54] !grub2 [15:54] GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since Ubuntu 9.10. For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 [15:54] subspider: normally now you edit in /etc/default/grub [15:54] thnks charlie-tca knome and sorry [15:54] always learning [15:54] subspider, no problem [15:55] np, ask and we will attempt to answer === emma_ is now known as emma [17:28] can anyone here help me set up a static ip without asking me 50 useless questions beforehand? [17:28] What version? [17:29] 10.4.1 [18:35] How may I change my display resolution? [18:36] !resolution | over-hill [18:36] over-hill: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution [18:37] Thanks. [18:37] you're welcome [18:38] ugh [19:09] hi everybody ;) [19:15] !hi | bigghost [19:15] bigghost: Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay! [19:18] hi. yes i've a big problem with the new kernel 2.6.32-24 generic and my nvidia 7050pv gfx onboard and the onboard soundcard. the sound is crackling with the new kernel but not with the old one 2.6.32-21. have you any idea? ;-) [19:20] this happens only. if the nvidia driver is installed. without. everything is okay with the sound. (sorry. for my bad english. i'm from germany) [19:30] Your english is fine. Do you need 3d video ? [19:32] Are you installing the nvidia driver from System -> Hardware Drivers ? [19:34] yes. some times for blender 3d. i have tested both. the hardware drivers from the system and the new one from nvidia. but it's the same problem. (p.s. amd64) [19:39] i've try something. replacing the alsa-drivers 1.0.21 to 1.0.23. try to use the linux-alsa drivers spezific for the gerneric kernel from ppa:ubuntu-audio-dev. without any result. [19:40] video hardware drivers should not be affecting the sound. You might need to ask if #ubuntu-audio-help . they are the experts in sound issues [19:43] I thought too. but if i uninstall the video drivers. everything is okay. makes me wonder. [19:45] thank you. for your tip. i will ask there. [22:52] !away | ProperN[out] [22:52] ProperN[out]: You should avoid noisy away messages and -nicks in a busy channel like #ubuntu, or other Ubuntu channels; it causes excessive scrolling which is unfair to new users. Use the command "/away " to set your client away silently. See also «/msg ubottu Guidelines»