[07:14] <blaze> kdelirc 4:4.5.1 package from ppa/backports and maverick is broken, it contains no binaries
[07:49] <nixternal> ScottK: what is the status of the mesa ffe's you talk about on the list? I am starting to get freakin' annoyed at this bullshit already.
[10:20] <shadeslayer> jjesse-netbook: great! :D
[11:41] <ScottK> nixternal: Release team is looking at it.  It'll probably get approved, but they want more testing.
[16:36] <nixternal> ScottK: how do I help with the testing? I have 3 machines to test on :)
[16:37]  * dantti cross fingers while upgrading to maverick :P
[16:38] <ScottK> nixternal: Install mesa from the sarvatt/mesa PPA and then report results in Bug 631413 (particularly including what video hardware you tested with).
[16:40] <nixternal> yeah, I actually found it :) thanks
[16:41] <afiestas> hey guys, I just noticed that kubuntu is not shipping with pulseaudio-bluetooth, this may casue false positives on supporting bluetooth headsets for example
[16:45] <nixternal> rock on, that worked \o/
[16:47] <nixternal> almost works. seems the screen corruption still occurs with chrome and google reader
[17:10] <bedahr> hi. I know packaging questions should go into #ubuntu-packaging but I got no answer there and I think this has to be a common issue; When packaging my KDE application, I run debuild which fails because it runs dh_shlibdeps on my plugins; Looking at the amarok package they override dh_shlibdeps for their plugins with override_dh_makeshlibs in debian/rules; I tried that but it doesn't seem to have an affect. Am I missing 
[17:10] <bedahr> something simple?
[17:27] <shadeslayer> neversfelde: oh boy : http://identi.ca/conversation/49580661#notice-50088772
[17:42] <ryanakca> Anybody have premade Kubuntu posters that can be printed out? I'm setting up a Kubuntu display in my uni's main library tomorrow for Software Freedom Day (I'm making a week long event since few people go to the library on Saturday)...
[17:44] <shadeslayer> ryanakca: aye
[17:44] <shadeslayer> there are a few on the ubuntu CD
[17:44] <ryanakca> shadeslayer: D'you know what package they're in (or if they're also on the Kubuntu CD)?
[17:44]  * ryanakca doesn't have any Ubuntu CDs kicking around
[17:44] <shadeslayer> ryanakca: theyre not on the kubuntu cd.. and dont know if they have a package ..
[17:45] <shadeslayer> one sec... maybe i can mount the ISO and see where they are
[17:47] <shadeslayer> ryanakca: #ubuntu-devel would know, theyre in the examples folder in home
[18:10] <ryanakca> shadeslayer: Thanks
[18:10] <shadeslayer> ryanakca: you found the posters?
[18:11] <ScottK> nixternal: It might be nice to say something about how the new mesa worked for you in the bug.
[18:12] <shadeslayer> ScottK: we need the new qoauth package ( 1.0.1 ), upstream insists on it
[18:13] <ScottK> shadeslayer: They don't get to insist.  File an FFe bug explaining why it's needed.
[18:13] <shadeslayer> http://identi.ca/conversation/49580661#notice-50088772 
[18:13] <shadeslayer> ScottK: sure.. will do 
[18:16] <dantti> almost there :P http://simplest-image-hosting.net/jpg-0-plasma-desktopbw1753
[18:18] <ryanakca> shadeslayer: Not yet
[18:30] <ryanakca> OK. Does anybody have premade Kubuntu posters that use the new logo / artwork? examples-content hasn't been updated since Jaunty / March 2010.
[18:33] <shadeslayer> sheytan: ^
[18:35] <sheytan> shadeslayer you mean the posters?
[18:35]  * ryanakca goes on to trying to figure out the best way to reset the session and home dir to the default after 15 minutes of inactivity
[18:35] <shadeslayer> sheytan: theres a package called example-content, which has posters of ubuntu/kubuntu/xubuntu
[18:35] <shadeslayer> ryanakca: sleep (something);rm -rf .kde
[18:35] <shadeslayer> idk what value something will have
[18:36] <shadeslayer> and might need to be put in a loop
[18:36] <ryanakca> shadeslayer: Yes, but I need inactivity. I don't want to logout && rm -fr ~/.kde && auto-login right in the middle of someone trying it out.
[18:36] <shadeslayer> oh :P
[18:37] <ryanakca> And I want to make sure it gets reset every now and then so that if someone screws it up or sets the background to something silly, etc., it won't be there forever
[18:38] <sheytan> shadeslayer i installed it, what does it do? :D
[18:38]  * ryanakca wonders if he can have a screensaver run a command.
[18:38] <ryanakca> sheytan: look in /usr/share/example-content
[18:40] <sheytan> well
[18:40] <sheytan> presenting_kubuntu can be changed
[18:41] <sheytan> to something cooler
[18:41] <sheytan> and logos ofc
[18:42] <sheytan> dantti:  btw, i tested the new kpk
[18:43] <sheytan> works smooth  :D
[18:43] <dantti> sheytan: are the animations fine?
[18:43] <dantti> sheytan: and did you saw the application path?
[18:43] <sheytan> dantti: yep, nothing bad found ;)
[18:43] <sheytan> nope
[18:44] <dantti> sheytan: http://simplest-image-hosting.net/jpg-0-plasma-desktopgb1753
[18:45] <sheytan> dantti: wow! This one is cool :D
[18:45] <sheytan> didn't see that :D
[18:45] <sheytan> dantti: what more does?
[18:45] <sheytan> the 'more' button
[18:45] <dantti> shadeslayer: :) yep it's really nice... the more button sucks a bit :P
[18:45] <dantti> sheytan: I was hoping you could find me a better thing for that 
[18:46] <sheytan> dantti: for what?
[18:46] <dantti> shadeslayer: you click on it and it has, File list, depends on, required by, share, addons..  
[18:46] <shadeslayer> :D
[18:46] <dantti> the two last aren't done of course
[18:47]  * shadeslayer nails dantti's finger to the keyboard
[18:47] <dantti> lol
[18:47] <sheytan> shadeslayer then he can not write anymore :D
[18:47] <shadeslayer> sheytan: more likely cause would be his keyboard being destroyed
[18:48] <sheytan> dantti: can you commit the latest changes? :)
[18:48] <sheytan> I will play with it in few minutes 
[18:48] <dantti> I should be giving linux classes today, but the power went away... so I'll try to make the categories browser work, the problem is that the USC has a not so standard xml format, so appget will have to use a different on
[18:49] <dantti> shadeslayer: I think I'll already did
[18:49] <dantti> shadeslayer: though konf is the only app that shows there :P
[18:49] <dantti> *kolf
[18:50] <shadeslayer> GAAAAHHHH
[18:50] <evilshadeslayer> now you shall feel my wrath!!
[18:51] <evilshadeslayer> :D
[18:52]  * dantti runs
[19:04]  * sheytan starts his virtual machine :D
[19:14] <sheytan> dantti: downloading windows, details view <- make the progress bar bigger to fit well with text :)
[19:15] <sheytan> dantti: it crashes when i select a package
[19:15] <dantti> sheytan: lol, what's the bt?
[19:15] <sheytan> dantti: sec
[19:17] <sheytan> dantti: http://pastebin.com/JJpdStZG
[19:18] <dantti> sheytan: do you have kolf installed? :P
[19:18] <sheytan> dantti: nope :D
[19:18] <sheytan> it's a clean kubuntu install
[19:18] <sheytan> on a virtual machine
[19:18] <dantti> right, that code is not finished yet :P it's kolf hardcoded
[19:19] <sheytan> dantti: it crashes with kolf too
[19:20] <dantti> sheytan: try running kbuildsycoca4 first.. but it shouldn't
[19:21] <sheytan> dantti: still the same
[19:22] <dantti> sheytan: I've commited a fix, try svn up :)
[19:24] <sheytan> dantti: it only shows 'checked revision...' but no new/changed files ;)
[19:24] <dantti> sheytan: if you're using anonsvn it takes a bit to update
[19:25] <dantti> r1174516
[19:26] <evilshadeslayer> dantti: there are different servers for people who can commit and who cant?
[19:26] <sheytan> dantti: making ;)
[19:27] <dantti> evilnhandler: yup
[19:28] <dantti> evilnhandler: maybe with git this will change but I dunno
[19:28] <nhandler> dantti: Tab failure
[19:28] <nhandler> \/ninfo kubotu
[19:28] <dantti> ?
[19:29] <nhandler> dantti: You have been hilighting me instead of evilshadeslayer 
[19:29] <dantti> oh! :P
[19:29] <dantti> sory
[19:29] <evilshadeslayer> loooolll
[19:31] <sheytan> dantti: works, nice one :D
[19:31] <sheytan> dantti: nope, it doesn't :D
[19:31] <sheytan> i don't see the menu place
[19:32] <dantti> sheytan: the -> -> -> ?
[19:32] <sheytan> yep
[19:32] <dantti> sheytan: well that's normal since it was crashing because if couldn't find konf
[19:32] <sheytan> dantti: ok ;D
[19:32] <dantti> now it doesn't crash if it doesn't find it :P
[19:33] <sheytan> dantti: the more button can't have a + icon :D
[19:33] <sheytan> try maybe the (i)
[19:39]  * sheytan is going to eat.
[19:44] <dantti> sheytan: http://simplest-image-hosting.net/jpg-0-plasma-desktopov1753
[19:46] <afiestas> Hey, is Kubuntu 10.10 going to update to KDE 4.5.2 ?
[19:48] <evilshadeslayer> afiestas: yes
[19:48] <evilshadeslayer> since its just a bug fix release
[19:49] <evilshadeslayer> might be a SRU tho
[19:49] <afiestas> SRU ?
[19:49] <evilshadeslayer> afiestas: Stable release update
[19:49] <evilshadeslayer> IIRC Riddell said that Kubuntu 10.10 will come out with KDE 4.5.1
[19:50] <evilshadeslayer> afiestas: when is 4.5.2 due?
[19:51] <afiestas>  30th September
[19:51] <ari-tczew> !SRU | afiestas
[19:51] <afiestas> so, we have to make a backport
[19:51] <evilshadeslayer> SRU then
[19:51] <evilshadeslayer> afiestas: not a backport
[19:51] <afiestas> sorry, I'm lost on kubuntu procedures
[19:52] <afiestas> there is a bug fixed in 4.5.2 which affects to any remote kio, for example kio_obexftp
[19:52] <evilshadeslayer> afiestas: backport would be for lucid.. since lucid is a older release compared to maverick
[19:52] <afiestas> this bug should be applied before release
[19:53] <evilshadeslayer> afiestas: if its really really important, can you forward a patch to kubuntu-devel? we can patch our packages then
[19:53] <afiestas> ook, and yes it is really important
[19:53] <evilshadeslayer> please forward it to kubuntu-devel@lists.launchpad.net
[19:53] <evilshadeslayer> we can release it with our 4.5.1 packages
[19:53] <afiestas> basically dolphin will try to copy remote folders to create previews
[19:54] <afiestas> I'm searching the commit
[19:54] <evilshadeslayer> ohk.. afaik we have turned off previews by default
[19:55] <evilshadeslayer> i could put the patch in our packaging branch directly, but im not sure of that, thats why im directing you to our ML :)
[19:56] <evilshadeslayer> ScottK: if your around ^
[19:56] <lex79> you can, but you have to test the patch before
[19:56] <lex79> ;)
[19:56] <afiestas> http://websvn.kde.org/?view=revision&revision=1170418
[19:56] <evilshadeslayer> oh lex79 is around :D
[19:56] <afiestas> another question, there is a reason why pulseaudio-module-bluetooth is not in the CD ?
[19:57] <evilshadeslayer> lex79: we really really really need a new qoauth according to mtux :P
[19:57] <evilshadeslayer> no idea
[19:57] <lex79> write a ffe and explain why we need a new release
[19:58] <evilshadeslayer> lex79: i know, im just telling you :)
[19:58] <lex79> just "upstream says we need the new release with the new choqok" or something else
[19:58] <afiestas> kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com <-- is ok this ML ?
[19:58] <lex79> kk
[19:58] <evilshadeslayer> afiestas: yes... 
[19:58] <afiestas> ooks
[19:58] <lex79> afiestas: are you a developer of bluedevil?
[19:59] <afiestas> yes
[19:59]  * lex79 is a wizard :P
[20:00] <afiestas> I've installed kubuntu to be sure that everything is perfect for Kubuntu 10.10 final
[20:00] <afiestas> so I will be around for a while :p
[20:00] <evilshadeslayer> afiestas: kool :D
[20:01] <lex79> afiestas: great! :) if you want you can also write on our ML that is better have  pulseaudio-module-bluetooth onto the CD
[20:01] <lex79> maybe we can do for maverick+1
[20:02] <afiestas> or maybe, you can install it with an update or something
[20:02] <afiestas> that could be done?
[20:03] <afiestas> I can see lots of users complaining because they audio bluetooth devices are not working and filling the bugtracks with bugs :p
[20:03] <shadeslayer> well.. we could patch bluedevil to prompt for its installation
[20:03] <afiestas> shadeslayer: that would be awesome, I can point you where to "hook" that
[20:04] <shadeslayer> afiestas: would be better discussed on the ML, ill be glad to implement it tho
[20:04] <shadeslayer> cant do it right now tho... :D
[20:05] <afiestas> I'm writting a "BlueDevil in Kubuntu 10.10" email with some points, including pulseaudio thing
[20:13] <sheytan> dantti: better :)
[20:16] <dantti> sheytan: a bit :P
[20:16] <sheytan> dantti: make some more space between the package name and description text. look at extracodecs
[20:31] <shadeslayer> night everyone
[20:32] <lex79> night shadeslayer
[20:46] <ryanakca> Had anybody gotten anywhere with KDE3PIM?
[21:35] <lex79> ScottK: I'm working upstream to improve the docs generation for libbluedevil, maybe tomorrow we can upload the new version
[23:40] <ScottK> lex79: Great.
[23:45] <ScottK> afiestas: I just added pulseaudio-module-bluetooth to the seeds so it will be there by default.  No need for shadeslayer to patch it.
[23:47] <txwikinger> Riddell: The buttons/badges; http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/Qbg02qlAxM2Ltcr5VpMfFg?feat=directlink