[00:01] <bazhang> Kendalja, unetbootin
[00:01] <bazhang> unetbootin.sourceforge.net for windows, in the repos for ubuntu
[00:01] <Kendalja> I am in windows 7
[00:01] <bazhang> Kendalja, see above
[00:02] <Kendalja> I used unetbootin
[00:02] <Kendalja> but got an error
[00:02] <bazhang> then md5 the iso
[00:02] <bazhang> and 'reburn'
[00:02] <Kendalja> no an error when I booted
[00:02] <Kendalja> :P
[00:02] <penguin42> what error?
[00:02] <bazhang> I know. md5 it
[00:03] <Kendalja> I will run again and see
[00:03] <penguin42> Kendalja: I've not used unetbootin (I've only done it from Linux) but if it gives an option to store persistent data, turn it off
[00:04] <Kendalja> ok
[00:04] <Kendalja1> on other machine here
[00:04] <Kendalja1> so when it finishes I can still talk
[00:04] <Kendalja1>  :P
[00:06] <Kendalja1> finishing up now going to reboot
[00:08] <Kendalja1> says default when I first boot
[00:08] <Kendalja1> then I get "no init found. Try passing init = bootarg.
[00:08] <Kendalja1> "
[00:08] <penguin42> Kendalja1: Does it say anything above that?
[00:08] <Kendalja1> and Inope
[00:09] <Kendalja1> nope
[00:09] <Kendalja1> BusyBox v1.15.3
[00:09] <Kendalja1> I am at a prompt
[00:10] <Kendalja1> think I might have it...
[00:10] <Kendalja1> or not
[00:10] <Kendalja1> lol
[00:10] <bazhang> Kendalja1, what file system did you choose
[00:10] <penguin42> sounds like something related to etiher your iso download or the unetbootin thing, I've had a 32bit 10.10 beta usb thumb work OK for me today but that was written from Maverick
[00:10] <Kendalja1> ah
[00:11] <bazhang> the alternate cd did that for me as well
[00:11] <bazhang> choosing btrfs
[00:11] <Kendalja1> should I redownload the netbook iso?
[00:11] <bazhang> md5 it
[00:13] <Kendalja1> hmmm
[00:13] <Kendalja1> in the dropdown for unetbootin there is no option for 10.10
[00:13] <Kendalja1> Daily_Live?
[00:18] <Kendalja1> ??
[00:19] <penguin42> Which iso did you download?
[00:19] <Kendalja1> ubuntu-10.10-beta-netbook-i386
[00:20] <penguin42> sounds reasonable (not tried netbook myself but still)
[00:20] <bazhang> !md5
[00:22] <Kendalja1> md5 checks out
[00:22] <Kendalja1> I will try again and if not then I will download again....
[00:25] <penguin42> if md5sum says it's right it's right
[00:25] <Kendalja1> hmmm
[00:25] <Kendalja1> rebooting again
[00:26] <Kendalja1> when I boot to usb I get two options
[00:26] <Kendalja1> Default and ...back
[00:26] <penguin42> not sure what that is
[00:27] <Kendalja1> wtf
[00:28] <Kendalja1> I will re d/l
[00:32] <Kendalja> I will try 10.04 instead
[00:32] <Kendalja> instead of beta
[00:32] <Kendalja> :P
[00:51] <Lars_G> Has anybody noticed merkat significatively slower than Lucid on netbooks?
[00:51] <Lars_G> is it debugging suymbols? or simply nos being larger?
[00:51] <penguin42> someone before was having speed issues (not sure if it was netbooks)
[00:51] <Lars_G> Netbook UI 3d, Netbook UI 2d and kde for netbooks are all slower, larger.
[00:51] <penguin42> what type of thing?
[00:52] <Lars_G> let's see my cpu
[00:52] <Lars_G> Ok both cores are working, and speed's not reduced so it's not that
[00:54] <Lars_G> An offside comment. how do I change daemons run in each initlevel with upstart?
[00:55] <bazhang> is there method to remove the "sync with Ubuntu One' in the nautilus folder views?
[01:24] <duffydack> yeah
[01:24] <duffydack> hide ribbons?
[01:25] <bazhang> okay thanks
[01:25] <duffydack> sorry for long response lol
[01:26] <bazhang> just installed it, sorry for the laziness in not searching it out myself
[01:26] <duffydack> i`m not booted in it at the mo.. just something about ribbons...
[01:26] <Kendalja> hey
[01:27] <bazhang> okay,will research. much appreciated duffydack
[01:27] <bazhang> Kendalja, hi
[01:27] <Kendalja> trying to install ubuntu
[01:27] <Kendalja> :P
[01:28] <bazhang> Kendalja, unetbootin still failing?
[01:29] <Kendalja> well I am downloading 10.04
[01:29] <duffydack> gujin ftw
[01:29] <Kendalja> dl wont finish
[01:29] <Kendalja> says 700mb of 700mb
[01:29] <Kendalja> but sill going
[01:30] <duffydack> in browser?
[01:30] <Kendalja> fingers crossed
[01:30] <Kendalja> :P
[01:30] <Kendalja> yeah
[01:30] <Kendalja> making it now
[01:30] <Kendalja> bootable flash drive
[01:31] <duffydack> I skip this part and just cat the iso across.. its just easier when working with changeable isos all the time
[01:31] <Kendalja> ah
[01:32] <duffydack> I trust cat iso more than unetbootin or other program.
[01:33] <duffydack> Kendalja, did you md5sum the iso first?
[01:34] <Kendalja> yep
[01:34] <Kendalja> trying again now
[01:34] <Kendalja> rebooting
[01:34] <Kendalja> :P
[01:35] <Kendalja> got it!
[01:35] <Kendalja> :P
[01:35] <Kendalja> loading live version now off usb
[01:35] <Kendalja> should run on a netbook ok eh?
[01:35] <duffydack> sure
[01:37] <bazhang> Kendalja, sure. if 10.04 hop back to #ubuntu for support though, please
[01:38] <Kendalja> this is for 10.10?
[01:38] <bazhang> yep
[01:38] <bazhang> thus the +1
[01:38] <Kendalja> ahh
[01:38] <bazhang> :)
[01:38] <Kendalja> can I upgrade to 10.10 later?
[01:39] <bazhang> of course you can
[01:39] <Kendalja> cool
[01:39] <Kendalja> thanks for the help thus far guys
[01:39] <Kendalja> :p
[01:39] <bazhang> hehe
[02:15] <Sir_Brizz> wtfh happened to the sun java package in 10.10?
[02:28] <Quutar> hello... I am running 10.10 desktop on an acer revo (aton cpu, ion gpu) with the nvidia restricted drivers...
[02:29] <Quutar> how do I make it so that my gui, mouse, etc... are resitrcted to display :0.1 with out taking down my :0.0 display?
[02:29] <Quutar> I basically want one monitor to be the target output of mplayer, with all of my gui on the second monitor
[02:30] <Quutar> and while i can do that now... the "second" monitor (:0.0) has all the normal gui trappings, a menu, etc... and my mouse can wonder over to it
[02:30] <Pici> a/24
[02:32] <Quutar> huh?
[02:33] <bazhang> Quutar, likely an irssi mistab
[02:35] <Quutar> well... i installed 10.10 ... installed the nvidia binary drivers... did a system update with apt-get and then in the nvidia driver gui i enabled the second monitor (not with twin view, each as a seperate display)
[02:35] <bjsnider> Sir_Brizz, that is normally added to the parter repo upon the actual release instead of during the dev cycle
[02:35] <Sir_Brizz> okay that makes sense
[02:35] <Sir_Brizz> I just used the id version for now
[02:35] <Quutar> so all that part is working.... now i want to do something "wierd" and don't know how
[02:35] <Sir_Brizz> lucid*
[02:38] <Quutar> basically... i want my user experiance to be limited to one of my two monitors... while the second monitor be the targeted output of mplayer "DISPLAY=:0.0 mplayer file.mp4"
[02:55] <Quutar> meow? anything... does what I want to do sound possible... i am told by people more knoledgeable about linux that I it is possible, they just don't know how
[03:22] <coz_> ah oh I just found that I cannot compile my alsa driver without errors  on maverick....ooo I have to look into this one
[03:27] <crimsun_> coz_: eh?
[03:27] <crimsun_> coz_: why do you need to compile your alsa driver, anyhow? :)
[03:27] <coz_> crimsun_,  well...although pulseaudio now recognizes my card for the first time
[03:28] <coz_> crimsun_,  it wont work with games and a few other applications  so
[03:28] <coz_> I compile it since there is alsa a mixer specifically for my card in the repositories
[03:28] <coz_> but on maverick it will not compile   I will have to try again to see what the errors are exactly
[03:29] <crimsun_> coz_: sorry, but I'm having problems parsing your previous sentence.
[03:29] <crimsun_> what does "since there is alsa a mixer" mean?
[03:29] <crimsun_> coz_: sorry, but I'm having problems parsing your previous sentence.
[03:29] <crimsun_> what does "since there is alsa a mixer" mean?
[03:30] <coz_> crimsun_,  one for echoaudio cards
[03:30] <voidmage> where did the samba right click->share in nautilus move to?
[03:31] <crimsun_> coz_: are you saying it isn't available in l-a-d-m available from https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-audio-dev/+archive/ppa/+packages?field.name_filter=&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=maverick ?
[03:31] <crimsun_> ah, I'll fix that ftbfs
[03:31] <coz_> crimsun_,    well I havent tried the ppa
[03:32] <voidmage> is it missing for anyone else?
[03:32] <coz_> crimsun_,  but I prefer compiling the driver ...it works far better than pulseaudio for me   so far anyway
[03:33] <crimsun_> coz_: mmkay, but that isn't really going to help us fix pulse [if there is something broken with pulse]
[03:34] <coz_> crimsun_,  this is true  ok  I will reinstall at some point...maverick...and go from there
[03:38] <coz_> I havent gone "pro audio" on linux yet anyway  so its not really absolutely important but I will eventually and for me.to do that .. I will most likely only want the compiled driver
[03:39] <bjsnider> coz_, what's an echoaudio card? is it a particularly odious piece of crap or something good or somewhere in between?
[03:40] <coz_> bjsnider,  pretty much a pro audio card
[03:40] <bjsnider> so it's worth all the trouble?
[03:40] <coz_> bjsnider,  oh yeah for me it is indeed :)
[03:40] <coz_> bjsnider,    http://www.echoaudio.com/
[03:41] <coz_> bjsnider,  they have many newer cards there mine is a layla24 at this point
[03:41] <bjsnider> and they don't have much linux support at this point?
[03:42] <crimsun_> they do.
[03:42] <coz_> bjsnider,   the drivers are open source I believe
[03:42] <crimsun_> they are.
[03:43] <crimsun_> they're in the alsa tree proper and have been for many years.
[03:43] <Quutar> if I am running 10.10 desktop in a VirtualBox... how do I get the shared folders to work?
[03:46] <bjsnider> coz_, maybe if you're creating audio with that card you should use jack instead of puse
[03:46] <bjsnider> or pulse
[03:47] <coz_> bjsnider,  yeah I can also do that ...at this point I am just happy the driver was compiling properly :)  I do most of the pro audio on windows  but really need to switch over to linux for this
[03:47] <coz_> bjsnider,  so that was my concern with the compiling on linus in maverick  but I will try again tomorrow to get the errors reported properly
[03:48] <coz_> linux not linus
[03:49] <bjsnider> you can't do the pro audio on linux?
[03:50] <coz_> bjsnider,  yeah I can but I have been using the applications on window so long...I have to take time to learn the linux equivelents  ie  ardour etc  ... a bit of a learning curve
[03:51] <coz_> bjsnider,  at this point...there is nothing really important I have to do audio wise... well...I am creating sets of new sounds for ubuntu but not doing any real pieces at this point
[03:53] <bjsnider> i bet you could learn ardour if you took one weekend and spent every waking hour on it
[03:54] <coz_> bjsnider,  yeah  you are absolutely right :)  with support  etc etc I do ... I should take one weekend to work with it
[03:55] <coz_> bjsnider,  I will also probably want the low latency kernel at some point
[03:56] <coz_> rt kernel I believe it is labled now
[03:56] <bjsnider> realtime yeah
[03:57] <ripps> everytime liboobs updates, i read it as lib-boobs
[03:57] <coz_> same here ^^ lol
[04:01] <Quutar> how do I disable desktop compositing in ubuntu 10.10 desktop?
[04:02] <coz_> Quutar,  for compiz or metacity?
[04:03] <coz_> Quutar,  for compiz  it is /system/preferences/appearance   Visual effects tab  choose "None"
[04:03] <Quutar> thanks
[04:03] <coz_> Quutar,  for metacity  open gconf-editor  maneuver to /apps/metacity/general and in right pane  disable compositing
[04:05] <Quutar> it was compiz
[04:06] <coz_> Quutar,  cool...why did you disable it??
[04:08] <Quutar> was getting allot of tearing when playign back videos with mplayer and the vdpau video out
[04:09] <Quutar> now... i think i see an occasional tear... but i can't be sure... before it was blatant and all the time
[04:09] <coz_> oh ok
[04:11] <Quutar> now... i am running only one monitor with ubuntu... the second monitor is disabled... is there anyway I can bring it up so mplayer could use it as a display... but keep my normal gui out of it?
[04:12] <Quutar> does that make sense? i want to enable my second monitor... but don't want the gnome gui and the mouse to go onto it
[05:42] <toddc> need info toshiba nb205-210 under 10.04 had 4 minute boot time so I formatted tried 10.10 unr installer keeps freezing unless I tap buttons or mouse and still install fails any ideas?
[06:06] <eeeekyellowsnow> firefox not working, i just upgraded to 10.10
[06:06] <eeeekyellowsnow> :'(
[06:07] <eeeekyellowsnow> what do i do? i removed icedtea plugin but it still won't start
[06:32] <Tsims> anyone have any idea why the ubuntu one music store rwont connect
[06:42] <bazhang> okay its in folder ubuntuone submenu hide ribbon
[07:45] <Leman_Russ> Hi, I have a problem with SCIM and Anthy.
[07:45] <Leman_Russ> I installed both, but I can not get Japanese input to work
[07:46] <bazhang> !info ibus-gtk
[07:47] <bazhang> Leman_Russ, you'd want that^^ as scim has been replaced by it
[07:47] <Leman_Russ> I have ibus installed now
[07:47] <Leman_Russ> how do I access it?
[07:47] <bazhang> then configure it with the proper language support packs
[07:48] <bazhang> add it to top panel? then configure after installing ibus-kanji or whatnot?
[07:48] <Leman_Russ> ありがとう！！！！
[07:48] <Leman_Russ> I got it!
[07:48] <bazhang> heh
[07:48] <Leman_Russ> Thanks so much!
[07:49] <Leman_Russ> I never realised ibus replaced SCIM
[07:49] <bazhang> not going to google translate that
[07:49] <Leman_Russ> Thanks.  I will pass this info about
[07:49] <bazhang> :)
[07:49] <Leman_Russ> ..ahh, that just says 'thank you'
[07:49] <bazhang> I know, just kidding
[07:49] <Leman_Russ> (^-^)
[07:49] <Leman_Russ> Thanks again
[07:50] <bazhang> np :)
[07:50] <Leman_Russ> You in the US_?
[07:50] <bazhang> TW
[07:50] <Leman_Russ> ?
[07:50] <bazhang> Taiwan
[07:50] <Leman_Russ> Ah, really?  I am in Japan
[07:51] <bazhang> yep
[07:51] <Leman_Russ> Taipei?
[07:51] <bazhang> yep but we're getting waaaay offtopic here
[07:51] <Leman_Russ> Sorry!
[07:51] <bazhang> #ubuntu-offtopic is fine though
[07:52] <Leman_Russ> Right, I will keep playing and see what other questions I can come up with!
[07:52] <bazhang> okay
[08:13] <voidmage> huh i have an unkillable nautilus window
[08:13] <voidmage> if i close it it opens again
[08:14] <voidmage> has anyone else ever seen that?
[08:15] <bazhang> voidmage, not yet, it was thunderbird here
[08:16] <voidmage> you close it and it reopens?
[08:18] <bazhang> voidmage, try to, it comes back incessantly
[08:49]  * zniavre is waiting for nvidia 173.14.xx update ...
[09:10] <walterj89_> Hey,  I'm trying to figure out utouch for a 3m touchscreen
[09:41] <mrp> is ubuntu one currently broken in the beta?
[09:43] <zetheroo> does anyone here use gtk-recordmydesktop?
[09:46] <AlanBell> hi all
[09:47] <AlanBell> at the moment adobe-flashplugin is not available in the canonical partner archive, how do I file a bug about this?
[09:48] <popey__> AlanBell: i'd ask in -mout
[09:48] <popey__> er -motu
[09:48] <AlanBell> the problem it causes is that if you get guided to the adobe site to install flash it tries to use apt:adobe-flashplugin?channel=$dist-partner
[09:48] <popey__> zetheroo: yes, i do
[09:49] <AlanBell> thanks popey__
[09:49] <popey__> ooer
[09:49] <zetheroo> popey__: I am wondering why the video file size is kinda random and why it takes so long to encode the video?
[09:50] <zetheroo> popey: I recorded 3 videos each different in length ... 20 min vid is 104MB, 14 min vid is 43MB and the 10min vid is 20MB .... this just doesn't seem right to me ...
[09:51] <popey> zetheroo: depends on the content I guess
[09:51] <popey> lots of still stuff vs lots of zooming in/out etc
[09:51] <popey> the more complex the video the bigger the compressed file will be
[09:52] <zetheroo> popey: no zooming ... all capturing the exact same area and desktop
[09:52] <popey> audio too?
[09:52] <zetheroo> yes
[09:52] <zetheroo> all of them
[09:52] <zetheroo> popey: just the difference in time and size does not make much sense ...
[09:53] <zetheroo> popey: but the strangest thing is the amount of time it takes to encode the video ... I recall it being MUCH faster in previous releases
[09:53] <zetheroo> I recently install Lucid fresh and have never seen it encode this slow
[09:54] <popey> i wonder if maverick has the new
[09:54] <popey> improved ogg video encoder
[09:55] <popey> which is indeed slower but much better
[11:29] <JoshuaL> anyone else experiencing issue where gwibber does not remember the opened streams after a reboot?
[12:36] <robotti^_> how good is that new ubuntu?
[12:36] <robotti^_> how stable it is?
[12:37] <penguin42> robotti^_: It's still got some problems, it's starting to get better
[12:38] <robotti^_> should I try it? :)
[12:38] <penguin42> robotti^_: If you did and it broke horribly could you recover?
[12:38] <robotti^_> maybe :)
[12:39] <bullgard4_> Empathy 2.31.91.1 still does not perform file transfer correctly. Is this a known phenomenon?
[12:40] <bullgard4_> mrp: If you consider the last 24 hours as "currently", the answer is: No.
[12:47] <AceKing> I upgraded from 10.04 to 10.10 on my Toshiba Laptop. Seemed like everything went well, but upon reboot it came up to a prompt to enter username and password. I entered it and it brings me to a command prompt. Is there any way to access the desktop at this point?
[12:52] <penguin42> AceKing: Sounds like a graphics driver type problem; what graphics card does it have?
[12:53] <penguin42> AceKing: If you're not sure then   lspci | grep -i vga   should give the answer
[12:54] <realburb> hi I have an odd problem with maverick: after rebooting, my PC changes drive numbers, what once was sda is now sdb and vice versa, what can I do to give the drives fixed names?
[12:54] <BUGabundo> man, I'm soooo fuuuu
[12:54] <BUGabundo> right now
[12:55] <BUGabundo> can't get my toshiba to boot from USB
[12:55] <penguin42> realburb: sda, sdb etc order hasn't been defined for 3 or 4 versions of ubuntu
[12:55] <BUGabundo> want to do a clean install of MM
[12:55] <BUGabundo> :((((
[12:55] <penguin42> realburb: It does the initialisation in parallel; use uuid's or labels instead of the sd* names
[12:55] <BUGabundo> this shouldn't be happening
[12:55] <realburb> penguin42 mhm can this somehow be combined with mdadm?
[12:56] <penguin42> realburb: Yeh, if you give mdadm the disks in /dev/disk/by-uuid then it'll work
[12:56] <realburb> penguin42 thanks Ill try it
[12:57] <penguin42> realburb: And blkid can be used to figure out which one is which (as can udisks --enumerate-device-files
[13:02] <AceKing> Penquin, sorry I just went to get a cup of coffee.. Let me check
[13:02] <realburb> penguin42 that would be /dev/by-uuid/a67dcb96-a9d2-5c10-9bfe-9c004878ee4b instead of /dev/sda1 right?
[13:02] <BUGabundo> sudo ionice -c3 zsync http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/dvd/current/maverick-dvd-amd64.iso.zsync
[13:02] <BUGabundo> here we go
[13:03] <BUGabundo> burning media cause stupid laptop won't boot from usb
[13:04] <AceKing> penguin42, ATI RS780 MC
[13:07] <AceKing> penguin42, is there anyway around that?
[13:14] <BUGabundo> isn't there a simple metapackage to take care of all TFTP stuff?
[13:24] <penguin42> realburb: Yeh something like that
[13:24] <penguin42> AceKing: I'm guessing you previously had the fglrx/proprietary drivers installed?
[13:25] <AceKing> penguin42, yes
[13:26] <penguin42> AceKing: If so, it doesn't yet work on maverick, but the open source driver should be OK except for heavy 3d, first try just moving /etc/X11/xorg.conf out of the way and see if it works, if not then you'll need to remove any of the fglrx packages; you might be able to use the    jockey-text command to do that, or failing that remove the packages
[13:27] <AceKing> penguin42, Thanks, I'll give it a try
[13:49] <realburb> penguin42 works great now, thanks
[13:49] <penguin42> no problem
[14:19] <tekonivel^^> desktop weirdness on Meerkat :\
[14:20] <tekonivel^^> warnings of not being able to contact gnome-settings-daemon are piling up in ~/.xsession-errors
[14:21] <tekonivel^^> plus plenty of these: "(mutter:30120): LIBDBUSMENU-GLIB-CRITICAL **: id_prop_update: assertion `priv->root != NULL' failed"
[14:28] <BUGabundo> http://www.netboot.me/257001 eheh
[14:30] <penguin42> hmm Maverick!=10.04
[14:31] <BUGabundo> ops
[14:31]  * BUGabundo tries to edit
[14:31] <BUGabundo> darn copy paste
[14:31] <BUGabundo> there
[14:31] <BUGabundo> fixed
[14:31] <BUGabundo> thanks penguin42
[14:32] <penguin42> np
[14:34] <BUGabundo> seems to me this is one of the nicest way to install and test stuff
[14:35] <BUGabundo> only one media (one netbootme iso) and then just point to what ever conf you want
[14:35] <BUGabundo> even your own
[14:37] <BUGabundo> jpds: what's the fastest oficial mirror close to portugal?
[14:37] <BUGabundo> you said the other day pt.ubuntu was limited
[14:41] <lotuspsychje> hi all
[14:41] <lotuspsychje> anyone got STA broadcom wifi drivers?
[14:42] <lotuspsychje> maverick doesnt install it by default
[14:50] <duffydack> the only one that installs and works for me.
[14:50] <lotuspsychje> the strange thing is, that driver is on the install cd
[14:50] <lotuspsychje> pool/main
[14:50] <duffydack> both are
[14:51] <lotuspsychje> wondering why it doesnt install by default
[14:51] <duffydack> because you have a choice between b43 and sta
[14:51] <duffydack> and sta is non-free
[14:52] <lotuspsychje> ic
[14:52] <lotuspsychje> all the rest works fine for me on maverick
[14:52] <lotuspsychje> system halt@ 4sec
[14:53] <lotuspsychje> its really fast
[14:53] <lotuspsychje> on SSD drive
[14:54] <AceKing> penguin42, I had to boot in using a 10.04 Live CD. I renamed the xorg.conf file and restarted my laptop. Everything appeared a lot smaller visually, but I still came to the prompt for my username and password. Same thing, went to the command prompt. I rebooted back into 10.04 and tried using "jockey-text" but I'm getting nowhere with that. If I'm in Live CD, how do I remove the fglrx packages?
[14:54] <penguin42> why did you go to the live cd ?
[14:55] <AceKing> penguin42, so I could rename the .conf file
[14:55] <lotuspsychje> what the hotkey to enter grub at boot on maverick?
[14:55] <penguin42> AceKing: But I thought you said you could log in on the installed version at the text prompt?
[14:55] <charlie-tca> lotuspsychje: hold the shift key
[14:55] <penguin42> lotuspsychje: Shift
[14:56] <lotuspsychje> tnx
[14:56] <penguin42> lotuspsychje: *right* after the bios
[14:56] <lotuspsychje> ok tnx alot
[14:56] <AceKing> penguin42, It asks for my username and password, when I enter them it brings me to a command prompt and wont go any further
[14:57] <penguin42> AceKing: But it gives you a $ prompt ? and you can issue normal commands like ls etc there?
[14:57] <AceKing> penguin42, yes
[14:58] <penguin42> ok, so you don't need the rescue disk
[14:58] <penguin42> AceKing: So lets just check the xorg.conf, at that $ prompt if you do   ls -l /etc/X11/xorg.conf does it say it's not found ?
[15:00] <AceKing> penguin42, it says "No such file or directory"
[15:00] <penguin42> great
[15:00] <penguin42> AceKing: try sudo jocket-text -l
[15:00]  * penguin42 admits at this point to not having used jockey before and normally doing this with dpkg, but if jockey can be made to work it's probably safer
[15:02] <AceKing> penguin42, it says "warning, could not open display warnings.warn(str(e), _gtk.warning
[15:03] <penguin42> is that all it says?
[15:05] <AceKing> penguin42, Sorry, I didn't see the line above.. "/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.6/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py57:gtkwarnings.warn(str(e), _gtk.warning)
[15:05] <penguin42> AceKing: OK, lets give up on jockey and do it the old-school way   -  dpkg -l \*fglrx\*
[15:07] <AceKing> penguin42, Ok, it brought up a whole bunch of stuff. Name version description
[15:10] <AceKing> penguin42, First line after I typed and hit enter says: Desired=Unknown/install/remove/purge/hold
[15:10] <AceKing> penguin42, do you need me to type out all of it?
[15:11] <penguin42> AceKing: OK, just do it again slightly different, dpkg -l | grep ^ii      now for each line you should get something like     ii   fglrx-something  description version
[15:12] <lotuspsychje> is there a way to backup wifi drivers on usb stick in .deb?
[15:13] <AceKing> penguin42, Ok, that just ran pages of stuff for about 5 seconds
[15:13] <penguin42> AceKing: Oops, I know why
[15:13] <penguin42> AceKing: dpkg -l \*fglrx\* | grep ^ii
[15:13] <penguin42> that should only have 2 or 3 lines
[15:14] <AceKing> penguin42, I ran the fist one again and I got 3 things with ii
[15:15] <AceKing> penguin42, fglrx 2:8.723.1-0ubuntu4
[15:16] <penguin42> ok, great now do apt-get remove fglrx
[15:20] <AceKing> penguin42, Ok, that just completed
[15:20] <penguin42> AceKing: OK, reboot and there's a 50/50 chance it might start X
[15:22] <AceKing> penguin42, you are a genius! IT WORKED!!!
[15:23] <penguin42> Hey no problem
[15:23] <AceKing> penguin42, Thank you so much for your help
[15:23] <penguin42> no problem
[15:25] <zj3t3mju> hi
[15:25] <lotuspsychje> hello
[15:25] <zj3t3mju> I have one package in maverick
[15:25] <zj3t3mju> but it need to rebuild to work (just that)
[15:26] <zj3t3mju> but I also release 0.5.1 (from 0.5)
[15:26] <zj3t3mju> will it be in 10.10?
[15:27] <zj3t3mju> if that I won't need to request rebuild
[15:27] <penguin42> zj3t3mju: Pretty much all the package versions have settled down, some might get updated for release but it'll be unusual
[15:29] <zj3t3mju> :-s
[15:33] <BUGabundo> for the 1st time I'm seeing IO on this SSD
[15:33] <BUGabundo> copying 11GB of photos from an usb external 5400disk to then internal ssd
[15:33] <BUGabundo> bahh
[15:35] <zj3t3mju> penguin42: thanks
[15:45]  * penguin42 has just filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/jockey/+bug/636418
[16:01] <Dink> hmm with the latest updates X freezes often and all I see in the Xorg logs are ... (EE) intel(0): Couldn't create pixmap for fbcon
[16:03] <penguin42> hmm not good
[16:03] <Dink> Yeah, haven't had an issue in the past. Even during the crazy Xorg upgrade period.
[16:16] <Dink> ha using term makes it worse for some reason. Kinda hard to look at the logs for relevant info to file a bug when it hangs while you are trying to use it.
[16:22] <Machtin> http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Vendor-Asus <- i'm pretty sure i have xonar dx, but alsamixer says "AV200" - why's that?
[16:24] <penguin42> Machtin: My guess is that a Xonar DS is a board/motherboard/marketing name for somethign which nhas an AV200 chip on wired in a particular way
[16:24] <penguin42> sorry, DX
[16:24] <Dink> hmm the other interesting part I don't think there was any updates to xserver-xorg-video-intel recently
[16:27] <Machtin> penguin42: but, on that alsa-site i posted it says it has a av100-chip, not av200?
[16:27] <penguin42> Machtin: Hmm so it does
[16:28] <penguin42> Machtin: OK, I don't know the Asus/Xonar stuff, but  1) That page could just be wrong, 2) It's not too unusual for vendors to change stuff and keep the same marketing name
[16:28] <Machtin> i see.
[16:29] <Machtin> just thought it might be a lead on why my sound's b0rked.
[16:29] <penguin42> If you see Crimsun around he's the sound guru
[16:29] <Machtin> ah, nice to know :)
[16:33] <eponym> I just installed 10.10 and I have the mouse sensitivity and acceleration cranked all the way down, but I'd like it even lower. It isn't too fast where it's at, but anything higher than the lowest setting is.
[16:37] <penguin42> eponym: OK, I'd submit a bug against the setting thing that adjusts it, you might be able to fiddle in gconf to set it slower
[16:39] <eponym> penguin42: thanks! where in gconf should I be looking?
[16:40] <penguin42> eponym: Try /desktop/gnome/periphers/mouse
[16:40] <penguin42> hmm htat's only really acceleration not base speed
[16:42] <eponym> It's a Logitech bluetooth wireless mouse, if that's any help.
[16:44] <penguin42> eponym: Well, I'd try tweaking the values in there - possibly keep that open while you've got the gui open you should see which value changes
[16:46] <eponym> I see, the sensitivity setting is having no effect, but if the acceleration is higher than the lowest setting it is too fast. I'm seeing similar bug reports to this.
[16:55] <eponym> If I make changes to my xorg.conf, what do I need to do to get them to take effect?
[16:56] <Ian_corne> sudo service gdm restart should take care of it
[16:56] <penguin42> restart X
[16:56] <eponym> Right, thanks.
[17:06] <voidmage> does anyone else have a problem with a window when they close it it reopens?
[17:06] <voidmage> for me it's a nautilus window, for someone else it's thunderbird
[17:16] <penguin42> voidmage: No, that's a bit weird
[17:17] <voidmage> penguin42: any ideas? the window this is happening to me with was saved in a session save
[17:17] <voidmage> and i forget how to remove it from my session save
[17:18] <penguin42> well system->preferences->start up applications let you remove some stuff, but it's not really the same - for example it doesn't list the terminal that it's saved
[17:19] <voidmage> i guess i could hand remove it from ~/.config/session-state...
[17:22] <rblst> hello all
[17:22] <voidmage> oh god that was not the best idea
[17:22] <voidmage> now i have infinitely spawning nautilus processes
[17:23] <rblst> does 10.10 have multitouch support for synaptic touchpads?
[17:23] <rblst> if yes, can it be set up in 10.04 somehow?
[17:30] <charlie-tca> rblst: I think it does, but not yet
[17:32] <rblst> charlie-tca, cool, thanks
[17:40] <jpds> BUGabundo: Fastest mirror close to Portugal?
[17:40] <jpds> BUGabundo: Probably the Spanish ones.
[17:40] <BUGabundo> done now
[17:40] <BUGabundo> lol
[17:40] <BUGabundo> set up to use mirrors
[17:40] <Daekdroom> I don't like using mirrors in development versions
[17:41] <BUGabundo> Daekdroom: then get out of here
[17:41] <jpds> I do, they just work.
[17:41] <BUGabundo> and when they don't, we blame jpds
[17:41] <Daekdroom> Sometimes they lag behind too much
[17:41] <Daekdroom> Specially because the development versions gets new packages everytime
[17:42] <jpds> Daekdroom: Most of them are set to update every six hours, is that not enough for you?
[17:43] <Daekdroom> jpds, it has proven to not be enough 2 or 3 times in the past, but every six hours sounds reasonable..
[17:45] <jpds> Daekdroom: Ah, you're based in Brazil, there are two mirrors that update every 6 hours there. :)
[17:45] <jpds> br.archive.u.c being one of them.
[18:13] <tgpraveen> is it just me or do bubble notifications dont work well with empathy
[18:13] <nanomad> which is the correct channel to help devs triage xorg bugs in maverick?
[18:23] <kulight> any one managed to get compiz 0.9 working on 10.10?
[18:27] <tgpraveen> is it just me or do bubble notifications dont work well with empathy
[18:37] <penguin42> kulight: The question is normally related to exactly which graphics card/driver is used
[18:37] <kulight> nvidia
[18:37] <kulight> penguin42: 8600gt
[18:38] <penguin42> kulight: So do you have the proprietary drivers installed (I'm an ATI user)
[18:39] <kulight> penguin42: yes  i also got compiz to install but i get no effects at all (and no copositing) when rebooting to compiz 0.9
[18:39] <kulight> also no windows decoration
[18:39] <penguin42> do other 3d things work?
[18:40] <penguin42> e.g. something simple like glxgears
[18:40] <kulight> penguin42: no, screenlets stops working correctly
[18:41] <penguin42> Sounds like the proprietary driver isn't that happy - can you pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[18:41] <penguin42> although as I say I'm not an Nvidian, maybe there is one around
[18:42] <kulight> i removed compiz 0.9 so ill hve to find the correct log...
[18:42] <penguin42> compiz won't make any difference to the Xorg.0.log
[18:46] <kulight> penguin42:  when using compiz 8.6 evrything works
[18:46] <penguin42> o hok, so it sounds like compiz is broke not the X server then
[18:46] <kulight> penguin42: i got nothing i the logs
[18:46] <kulight> penguin42: that was my line of thought
[18:47] <penguin42> hey well, the maverick one is 0.86 isn't it?
[18:50] <kulight> yes ill keep using it for now
[19:05] <Dink> hmm yeah gnome-terminal is causing X to hang interesting. I just went 2 hours fine and once I opened up terminal and starting moving it around, typing etc BAM
[19:05] <Dink> ls -lrt
[19:24] <lotuspsychje> lotuspsychje@RooTBoX:~$ uname -a
[19:24] <lotuspsychje> Linux RooTBoX 2.6.35-19-generic #28-Ubuntu SMP Sun Aug 29 06:34:38 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[19:49] <lotuspsychje> http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/2797/screenshotdwk.png
[19:49] <lotuspsychje> yow dupondje
[19:54] <lotuspsychje> you should try maverick 64 bit mate
[19:54] <Saguaro> I'm on 10.10 64-bit
[19:54] <lotuspsychje> system halt@4sec
[19:54] <lotuspsychje> yes me2
[19:54] <lotuspsychje> http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/2797/screenshotdwk.png
[19:55] <lotuspsychje> its all working
[19:55] <lotuspsychje> flash, compiz, full effects
[19:55] <pavpanchekha> help with lvm?
[19:55] <penguin42> lotuspsychje: Out of interest what's the system/graphics card/etc
[19:56] <penguin42> that's very purple
[19:56] <lotuspsychje> is there a terminal command for that pengiun42
[19:56] <penguin42> pavpanchekha: What's up?
[19:56] <penguin42> lotuspsychje: Well I guessed you would know, lspci would be a start
[19:57] <Saguaro> haha, that screenshot makes me realize I need higher resolution monitors
[19:57] <Saguaro> running at 1440x900 sucks
[19:57] <alex_mayorga> is Bug #581385 alive on Meerkat?
[19:57] <pavpanchekha> penguin42: I'm trying to set up the beta with lvm
[19:57] <penguin42> bug 581385
[19:57] <pavpanchekha> penguin42: it fails into a busybox shell
[19:57] <pavpanchekha> penguin42: LVM is not present in the busybox
[19:57] <lotuspsychje> 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS780M/RS780MN [Radeon HD 3200 Graphics]
[19:58] <penguin42> pavpanchekha: Hmm that sucks; was that from the alternate or main cd ?
[19:58] <pavpanchekha> penguin42: main
[19:58] <pavpanchekha> I installed from the live and then chrooted in to install lvm
[19:58] <pavpanchekha> penguin42: it was a live CD, don't know if that changes things
[19:58] <penguin42> pavpanchekha: So you did live, did the lvm yourself and then told it to just install ?
[19:59] <pavpanchekha> penguin42: My lvm partitions were already set up
[19:59] <pavpanchekha> penguin42: I installed lvm on the live
[19:59] <pavpanchekha> penguin42: installed to lvm
[19:59] <pavpanchekha> penguin42: that worked flawlessly
[19:59] <pavpanchekha> penguin42: and then chrooted in to install the lvm2 package
[19:59] <penguin42> pavpanchekha: Ah OK, hmm - you might try to update the initrd's and grub now you've installed the lvm package
[19:59] <penguin42> pavpanchekha: update-initramfs -k all -u
[19:59] <pavpanchekha> penguin42: uhuh
[19:59] <pavpanchekha> penguin42: umm
[20:00] <pavpanchekha> penguin42: It doesn't want to update initramfs on a read-only medium
[20:00] <pavpanchekha> penguin42: the problem, perhaps?
[20:00] <penguin42> pavpanchekha: Hmm hang on this is tricky, you're going to have to boot from the livecd, get lvm going and mount the root and boot filesystems (and proc and sys) and chroot into them and try and do that
[20:00] <pavpanchekha> penguin42: One sec, I'll boot back into the live CD to test your command
[20:00] <alex_mayorga> penguin42: does the GT 230M card work?
[20:01] <penguin42> alex_mayorga: Don't know - I don't do Nvidia, but I think some people have had Nvidia working
[20:02] <alex_mayorga> penguin42: thanks
[20:02] <alex_mayorga> other horrific things that might happen?
[20:03] <penguin42> pavpanchekha: My guess is that the suggested way to do lvm would be from the alternate CD, but I run a normal / and just use lvm for extras
[20:03] <alex_mayorga> how can I setup X to fall back in case something goes awry?
[20:03] <penguin42> alex_mayorga: I'm not sure if it's fixed but with the closed nvidia drivers there was a thing you had to put an IgnoreABI in the xorg.conf to load the older drivers - that was a few weeks ago
[20:05] <BUGabundo> anyone here ever installed crashplan? it can't find java in MM
[20:05] <BUGabundo> guess it doesn't like openjdk-6-jre
[20:05] <alex_mayorga> !crashplan
[20:06] <penguin42> alex_mayorga: Put a large paper bag over your head and DON'T PANIC
[20:06] <lotuspsychje> lol
[20:06] <penguin42> other than that, you could try asking here
[20:06] <alex_mayorga> penguin42: :D
[20:07] <BUGabundo> alex_mayorga: http://bcrashplan.com/
[20:07] <BUGabundo> alex_mayorga: http://crashplan.com/
[20:07] <BUGabundo> its a close source paid backup service
[20:07] <pavpanchekha> penguin42: Sorry about leaving, I have only 1 internet connection for both the desktop I'm rescuing and the laptop I'm using [bleh]
[20:07] <lotuspsychje> on a edu line :p
[20:09] <pavpanchekha> penguin42: what was the command? `update-initramfs -k all -u`?
[20:09] <penguin42> pavpanchekha: Yeh I think that has a chance
[20:09] <pavpanchekha> alright
[20:09] <pavpanchekha> penguin42: rebooting I go!
[20:11] <pavpanchekha> penguin42: It worked, and you now have my infinite gratitude
[20:12] <pavpanchekha> penguin42: Please leave an address or telephone number and our agents will ship it to you within 10-12 business days
[20:12] <penguin42> hehe!
[20:13] <sevenseeker> anyone have a ATI Radeon HD 4650 or that series and have it working with 10.10?
[20:13] <penguin42> pavpanchekha: So just checking, your lvm partitions were there already, you installed and then chroot'ed in to add lvm packages?
[20:13] <pavpanchekha> yep
[20:13] <penguin42> sevenseeker: I have the HD4350 which I think uses the same drivers
[20:14] <penguin42> pavpanchekha:Hmm, I'm trying to think whether it should have done the update-initramfs for you
[20:14] <sevenseeker> penguin42, hello again :) are you using the latest fglrx or the radeon drivers?
[20:14] <penguin42> sevenseeker: Radeon drivers plus the latest mesa from sarvatt/mesa ppa
[20:14] <pavpanchekha> penguin42: When I chrooted in, I mount -o bind'd /proc, /dev, and /sys
[20:14] <pavpanchekha> penguin42: So it might have detected that I was on read-only media
[20:14] <sevenseeker> aha, that could be my problem then...
[20:14] <pavpanchekha> penguin42: And refused to regenerate teh initramfs
[20:14] <sevenseeker> no mesa
[20:15] <penguin42> sevenseeker: I only put those in because other wise I get a load of weird flickering on 3d games
[20:15] <lotuspsychje> sevenseeker my HD3200 ati worked by default, no alternate drivers
[20:15] <penguin42> pavpanchekha: But didn't you have to chroot to get the lvm2 installed anyway?
[20:15] <pavpanchekha> yes
[20:15] <penguin42> lotuspsychje: If you run google earth or assaultcube do you get flickering?
[20:15] <sevenseeker> penguin42, ahh... well when I mv my xorg.conf it reconfigures or attempts to, and hangs
[20:15] <duffydack> sevenseeker, 4650, working.
[20:15] <pavpanchekha> but as part of the apt-get, even though it might have wanted to update-initramfs, that would have failed
[20:16] <lotuspsychje> penguin42: lemme go check
[20:16] <penguin42> sevenseeker: I don't have an xorg.conf
[20:16] <duffydack> sevenseeker, no xorg.conf, just works OOTB.
[20:16] <pavpanchekha> penguin42: just update-initramfs failed (I tried that)
[20:16] <penguin42> pavpanchekha: OK, the -u is update and the -k all does all kernels
[20:16] <pavpanchekha> penguin42: somehow, the arguments you gave forced it to update it
[20:16] <pavpanchekha> penguin42: uhuh
[20:16] <pavpanchekha> penguin42: ok, hmm
[20:16] <sevenseeker> duffydack: hmmm, I updated 3 days ago and have stayed current but I get errors, lemme pastebin them real quick (gotta transfer)
[20:18] <pavpanchekha> penguin42: I'm offline for a sec again
[20:18]  * penguin42 is going
[20:18] <duffydack> sevenseeker,  you upgraded from lucid?  well, I dont know then, this is fresh.. I cant stand upgrades.. pff
[20:18]  * penguin42 has to go and turn his brain off and watch some TV, other wise I won't sleep properly!
[20:19] <sevenseeker> duffydack: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/261102/
[20:19] <sevenseeker> duffydack: that is my next step
[20:19] <sevenseeker> :(
[20:20] <duffydack> you upgraded while using the fglrx driver though didnt you.
[20:21] <sevenseeker> duffydack: yes, however I since purged it and installed the latest driver (by creating a maverick package from the binary installer from ati)
[20:22] <duffydack> stick with free driver till fglrx becomes stable/packaged
[20:22] <ChogyDan> hmmm, my upgrade is locked up
[20:23] <sevenseeker> ok, not sure how to do that though... deleting xorg.conf and doing startx (or rebooting) causes a blank screen
[20:23] <ChogyDan> missing window borders, any ideas?
[20:23] <sevenseeker> that I can't ctrl-alt-F# to a term
[20:23] <duffydack> ChogyDan, using compiz?
[20:23] <ChogyDan> duffydack: I wasn't, but I can't really check
[20:24] <duffydack> ChogyDan, I sometimes get booted into a desktop with no window controls/border, I have to reload compiz
[20:25] <ChogyDan> duffydack: yeah, but this is happening mid -upgrade
[20:25] <duffydack> happens in lucid as well.. that and another little bug they dont seem to wanna fix
[20:25] <alex_mayorga> !modeset
[20:25] <duffydack> Not sure then.  I stay away from upgrades.  not worth my time.
[20:25] <lotuspsychje> coompiz never workd better for me
[20:26] <ChogyDan> oh well, I don't think compiz is running: ps aux | grep compiz turned nothing
[20:27] <duffydack> pgrep -l 'compiz'
[20:31] <alex_mayorga> looks like I have a "gift" to pick video cards bug 576125
[20:32] <ChogyDan> hah!  the problem was that there was a popup about grub and a device.map.  Metacity is crashed, so I couldn't click.  But I was able to use ctrl+c within the terminal window of upgrade manager...
[21:02] <alex_mayorga> how many betas would happen?
[21:03] <duffydack> 1
[21:03] <BUGabundo> 2
[21:04] <BUGabundo> 3
[21:04] <BUGabundo> GO
[21:04] <duffydack> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MaverickReleaseSchedule
[21:04] <alex_mayorga> let's see how the beta fares now
[21:04] <duffydack> anyone thinking oct 10th wont be the release date.
[21:08] <alex_mayorga> duffydack: it will be, SABDFL said so
[21:08] <BUGabundo> ahaahh
[21:09] <sevenseeker> alex_mayorga, what does the SA stand for?
[21:09] <duffydack> I just dont want em to rush out something..
[21:09] <duffydack> its a lot earlier on in the month than previous releases, is it not
[21:14] <Daekdroom> duffydack, the point is not having to rename future versions if they delay them
[21:16] <duffydack> 10.10.10 it is then :0
[21:18] <alex_mayorga> duffydack: our dictator, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Shuttleworth#Involvement_in_Linux_and_FOSS
[21:19] <duffydack> I guess there wont be any issues come release day, due to the gap between lucid-maverick isnt as wide as with karmic-lucid, in terms of tech
[21:22] <duffydack> anyhoo.. Anyone else using empathy and it only displaying notification when you actually view the message thats waiting.
[21:22] <lotuspsychje> yes duffydack same here
[21:23] <lotuspsychje> new message pops up but no tray icon
[21:25] <duffydack> erm.. with me its showing message in the message menu, and the contact list is flashing it, but when I view the message, its only then I get the indicator bubble displaying the message
[21:30] <pavpanchekha> NVidia problems, who should I ask?
[21:31] <pavpanchekha> I installed nvidia-current and now my monitor declares "Out of Range"
[21:33] <pavpanchekha> Nvidia issues help, anyone?
[21:34] <jpds> pavpanchekha: Try #ubuntu-x
[21:35] <lotuspsychje> duffydack: disable 'show incomming messages in menu'
[21:35] <alex_mayorga> pavpanchekha: what's the faulty card?
[21:37] <duffydack> lotuspsychje, that makes it show the fancy onsceen bubble but also now shows me the window
[21:38] <duffydack> the point of me wanting the message show in indicator style bubble is to not see the window until I want to
[21:38] <lotuspsychje> lolµ
[21:40] <duffydack> nevermind..  its fine in lucid.. and this is just  test install.
[21:45] <ramburgsun> hi 2 all. I can not create a bootable flash Maverick beta and daily build. I tried ultraiso and Universal-USB-Installer and fix syslinux.cfg. What is the problem? sorry for my english
[21:46] <yong> ramburgsun, unetbootin works for me to create maverick liveusb
[21:47] <slipperychicken> <3 unetbootin
[21:47] <duffydack> iso`s ftw
[21:48] <ramburgsun> it should rename the isolinux-> syslinux manually?
[21:57] <duffydack> gujin loader and a few partitions for each iso I cat over, all I use these days.,
[21:58] <pavpanchekha> alex_mayorga: I have a 7600 GT
[21:58] <pavpanchekha> alex_mayorga: At this point, if I could switch to a different driver, I'd be happy
[21:58] <pavpanchekha> alex_mayorga: Alternatively, if I could figure out how to get xrandr to fix it
[21:58] <alex_mayorga> pavpanchekha: what's the driver that doesn't work
[21:59] <pavpanchekha> alex_mayorga: I just installed nvidia-current from the restricted driver manager
[21:59] <pavpanchekha> alex_mayorga: how do I get the version?
[21:59] <magicianlord> install it from synaptic
[21:59] <magicianlord> and then run from root, "sudo nvidia-xconfig"
[22:00] <pavpanchekha> magicianlord: That worked!
[22:00] <pavpanchekha> magicianlord: Thanks!
[22:00] <magicianlord> sure
[22:06] <alex_mayorga> pavpanchekha: can you summarize for me please? about to restart into 10.10 with nvidia card
[22:07] <pavpanchekha> alex_mayorga: I did what magicianlord said (nvidia-xconfig) and it worked
[22:08] <alex_mayorga> pavpanchekha: aptitude install first?
[22:08] <magicianlord> it should be better documented.
[22:09] <magicianlord> after nvidia drivers are installed (sudo apt-get install nvidia-current), you need to configure x (sudo nvidia-xconfig) and log out and back in.
[22:10] <bjsnider> jockey installs the xorg.conf file for you in a way that's compatible with ubuntu
[22:10] <bjsnider> i'm not as confident in nvidia-xconfig
[22:12] <ramburgsun> I try with unetbootin. Startup endless reading flash (_8 (|)
[22:12] <magicianlord> does it? then use that. from what i remembered, i had to run xconfig either way
[22:13] <bjsnider> it's easy to check for the existence of xorg.conf and its contents before rebooting
[22:15] <magicianlord> debian does document a manual way of configuring xorg.conf with nvidia
[22:33] <alex_mayorga> well my dist-upgrade is done, final tips to try recovery if something goes awry?
[22:35] <magicianlord> restoring xorg.conf
[22:52] <magicianlord> is everyone enjoying maverick so far?
[22:55] <Sir_Brizz> for the most part, yes
[22:55] <duffydack> mostly.
[22:55] <duffydack> bugs still, but it will be installed in place of lucid soon enough
[22:56] <magicianlord> cool
[23:07] <magicianlord> it's almost time for a reinvention of the desktop managers
[23:09] <linkinx> I am following this bug, and deleting "ui" is not helping.. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/syslinux/+bug/608382
[23:18] <alex_mayorga> hello all!
[23:18] <alex_mayorga> back up and running
[23:22] <alex_mayorga> still no way to dismiss all notification from the green folder thingie?
[23:23] <alex_mayorga> err, green envelope
[23:26] <Salminen> Hello. I was guided to try 10.10 after 10.04 for some reason lacked the gfx drivers for my laptop. I did, but apparently i must have downloaded the wrong version since i have no GUI, just command line interface.
[23:27] <Salminen> How can i change to the correct version now, using the command line?
[23:27] <Salminen> (if i can)
[23:28] <alex_mayorga> Salminen: what's your card
[23:28] <Salminen> wish i could say, some sis graphics chip
[23:28] <Salminen> esprimo mobile v5515
[23:29] <Sir_Brizz> Salminen: you should be able to install ubuntu-desktop
[23:29] <Salminen> hmm sorry for being such a noob but using which command?
[23:29] <Salminen> sudo apt-get?
[23:29] <Sir_Brizz> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[23:29] <Salminen> thanks
[23:29] <Salminen> i'll see if that works
[23:30] <Salminen> ubuntu-desktop is already up-to-date
[23:30] <Salminen> interesting
[23:30] <Sir_Brizz> try sudo gdm restart
[23:30] <Salminen> (for some reason it's in finnish, my translation might be lacking)
[23:31] <Salminen> failed to acquire org.gnome.displaymanager
[23:31] <Sir_Brizz> interesting
[23:31] <Salminen> wish i was paying more attention when installing this
[23:32] <Salminen> i used sudo update-manager -d in my 10.04 terminal and installed the 10.10 from there
[23:32] <Salminen> im confused as to what i might have done wrong to install the incorrect version
[23:33] <alex_mayorga> how borked is nvidia-current using jockey?
[23:34] <Sir_Brizz> alex_mayorga: it worked for me
[23:34] <Sir_Brizz> Salminen: try this
[23:34] <Sir_Brizz> sudo aptitude update
[23:34] <Sir_Brizz> then sudo aptitude safe-upgrade
[23:34] <alex_mayorga> Sir_Brizz: thanks! What card?
[23:34] <Sir_Brizz> 9200M
[23:34] <splashote> hi, ambiance maverick-beta stopped workind, the configurator says it's not installed, there is a conflict with phase-themes, which i don't find as a package. what can i do?
[23:35] <Salminen> 0 packages 0 newly installed 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded
[23:35] <Salminen> so it ran a check and ended up doing nothing
[23:35] <Sir_Brizz> is it checking the maverick repositories?
[23:35] <Salminen> btw i tried to just use gdm, said something about connection not allowed in security policy
[23:36] <Salminen> yeah it is
[23:36] <Salminen> there's at least four option in grub about which ubuntu to run, could i just be running the wrong one?
[23:36] <Salminen> (propably not)
[23:37] <Sir_Brizz> it's possible
[23:38] <Salminen> lol
[23:39] <Salminen> and all this started from me wanting to upgrade my 9.04 to 10.04 while i was playing a game
[23:39] <Salminen> damn fujitsu laptops
[23:39] <Salminen> ooo
[23:39] <Salminen> i found the GUI version i think
[23:39] <Salminen> for some reason it was in the middle of multiple other options
[23:40] <Salminen> well i quess that means it works
[23:40] <Salminen> still no drivers for my gfx chip though
[23:40] <Salminen> just flashing white and black on the screen, propably getting the pop-up about "low graphics mode" soon - i hope
[23:41] <Salminen> i quess i'll have to format and reinstall older version, it worked fine in 9.04 and 9.10
[23:42] <Sir_Brizz> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1245831
[23:42] <Sir_Brizz> you might want to try something like that
[23:51] <Salminen> lol
[23:51] <Salminen> tried running recovery mode, instead of flashing balck and white i get blue, red, white and black
[23:51] <Salminen> it's an improvement
[23:52] <magicianlord> i wonder if qwebirc works on kindle then
[23:57] <sevenseeker> duffydack: so I installed from scratch... video is beautiful now :)