ScottK | Chipzz: That's one theory I guess. | 02:30 |
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Kalidarn | just wondering if it'd be acceptable to open a bug for this, encrypted LVM in ubuntu 10.04 seems to break suspend mode | 05:52 |
Kalidarn | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemLVMHowto#Some%20Notes it says here "Suspend or suspend2 don't work with this configuration. If you have a working configuration with suspend or suspend2, please append to this article or post a separate one." I'm using Ubuntu 10.04 LTS. | 05:52 |
Kalidarn | it does say there in the wiki that it does not work | 05:52 |
Kalidarn | I'm just wondering if there's a technical reason as to why it doesn't work | 05:52 |
Kalidarn | ie something related to security, the swap file is encrypted so it shouldn't be an issue suspending to it. | 05:53 |
Kalidarn | it'd be also interesting if someone with a 10.10 release could test it, incase it has been fixed. | 05:54 |
Kalidarn | too much info relates t < 8.04 which was back when we had HAL | 05:54 |
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riyaz | hi everyone i am here to get some idea about contributting to open source by the way i am interested to learn core programming ....anybody can help?? | 07:10 |
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chris_osx | riyaz: do you mean kernel hacking? | 07:16 |
riyaz | chris_osx:no no just to contribute some applications .. | 07:17 |
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damascene | hi, | 09:40 |
Damascene | hi, I made a summary page about decentralized Ubuntu package system https://wiki.ubuntu.com/damascene/Decentralized%20Ubuntu please look at it. | 09:54 |
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bonii | I had a problem with sound in headphones on my new asus eee pc running lucid, I followed instructions here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Audio/InstallingLinuxAlsaDriverModules, the module is only available for 2.6.32-24 kernel and currently on lucid I am running 2.6.32-25 kernel, so will the fix be patched into this kernel, please advise | 14:13 |
fagan | bonii: if it doesnt work in maverick then you can make a bug report about it | 14:17 |
Chipzz | bonii: pls don't abuse this channel for bug reports, especially not for bug reports about stable.. | 14:20 |
Chipzz | err, s/bug reports/support/ | 14:20 |
fagan | Chipzz: I was just saying to report a bug if its not in maverick | 14:23 |
fagan | and the channel was quiet so its all good | 14:23 |
Chipzz | fagan: no. this channel being quiet is no excuse for abusing it | 14:24 |
fagan | Chipzz: I wasnt | 14:24 |
Chipzz | fagan: and my comment wasn't aimed at you... | 14:24 |
fagan | oh sorry | 14:24 |
bonii | I am sorry if I abused something, I just thought of cross checking with the devs before filing a report, whether the fix was in the process of being pushed | 14:25 |
bonii | Sorry if it went againts the channel policy | 14:25 |
fagan | bonii: well the kernel version should be fine for maverick | 14:25 |
Chipzz | bonii: it's good practice to read a channels' topic before talking in it | 14:25 |
* Chipzz wonders why ppl never do that. *sigh* | 14:26 | |
* bonii goes to read the topic | 14:26 | |
fagan | Chipzz: its a bad habit really for people | 14:26 |
Chipzz | that last thing was a generic comment, not aimed at you specifically bonii | 14:26 |
fagan | they see the channel name and think this one can give me the answer | 14:26 |
bonii | Chipzz: :) | 14:26 |
Chipzz | I am really really REALLY considering a patch to xchat which pops up a big warning to read the channel topic upon starting it, with a greyed out 'ok' button that only gets enabled after 10 seconds, and the only way to turn it off a hidden and undocumented gconf option | 14:28 |
fagan | Chipzz: hmmm people would still probably ignore it | 14:29 |
Laney | ...the original query wasn't that bad | 14:29 |
fagan | its one of those things that ive come to accept that its always going to happen | 14:29 |
Laney | this is a gross overreaction | 14:29 |
Chipzz | Laney: I'm just ranting about no-one caring about topics anymore, not so much about the original query ;) | 14:29 |
Laney | an off-topic rant about people being off-topic | 14:30 |
Laney | hmm | 14:30 |
fagan | :) | 14:30 |
Chipzz | bonii: about your original query; #ubuntu is for general support; if you don't get an answer there, you could try #ubuntu-kernel (not 100% sure if it's on-topic there) | 14:44 |
fagan | (it is on topic for that channel) | 14:48 |
Chipzz | since #ubuntu-kernel's topic doesn't specify wether it's only about stable or devel too, and the wiki page mentions the "The Ubuntu Kernel Team" and "Crack of the Day", I'ld say it is | 14:49 |
bonii | Chipzz: Thanks, I will check that out | 14:58 |
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cjwatson | Chipzz: honestly, most of these OT questions could be defused with much less noise in the channel if you'd be a little bit less hair-trigger-annoyed in your replies. A polite redirection suffices and is more within the spirit of the code of conduct. There's no need to rant at people. | 17:36 |
cjwatson | the person who came in was apologetic and polite when corrected | 17:40 |
Chipzz | cjwatson: and I did point him in the right direction | 17:40 |
cjwatson | you were unnecessarily vitriolic. | 17:40 |
cjwatson | please try to refrain from that in future | 17:40 |
cjwatson | (yes, you did point him in the right direction) | 17:43 |
Chipzz | cjwatson: IMO, much of these OT questions could be avoided by simply setting the channel +s | 17:45 |
Chipzz | so it doesn't show up in the server list of channels | 17:45 |
cjwatson | I don't think that's necessary. The OT questions are not a significant contributor of noise. The attempts to police them, however, do seem to be | 17:46 |
cjwatson | I frequently read through long backlogs of this channel to find a small amount of OT questions and a huge screed of flamewar about whether it was appropriate or not | 17:47 |
cjwatson | being a bit more relaxed in directing people to where they can best get help would do everyone a lot of good, I think | 17:47 |
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cjwatson | I've bitten my tongue about it for some time because I don't want to be part of the same problem | 17:48 |
cjwatson | but the contrast with some other channels where somebody comes in with a question, we say "sorry, this isn't really the right place, try #whatever", and they say thanks and leave, is quite marked | 17:49 |
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fagan | I tend to do that but if it can be answered in one line anyway I just answer and say this isnt the place | 17:50 |
fagan | if no one answers | 17:50 |
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Chipzz | cjwatson: I did say it was not the place, and I did point him in the right direction. and the rant wasn't directed at him specifically | 17:55 |
Chipzz | or is it my use of the word "abuse" you're objecting to? | 17:58 |
fagan | Oh yeah I mean say that I was just shortening it | 17:58 |
Laney | The whole diatribe was unnecessary. If you'd have just redirected him in one line then nobody would have got upset. | 17:59 |
fagan | True but I answered the question in one line instead and I thought that it was ok | 17:59 |
fagan | but then 10 mins later it spawned the other thing | 18:00 |
Laney | fagan: yes, it should have been the end of it | 18:00 |
Chipzz | fagan: I don't think this is about you :) | 18:00 |
fagan | :) | 18:00 |
Laney | Enough about this for now though, please | 18:00 |
fagan | yep | 18:00 |
ryanakca | Anybody know which package the Kubuntu posters are in on the LiveCD? | 18:10 |
Chipzz | ryanakca: I don't, but have you tried dpkg -S? | 18:13 |
ryanakca | Chipzz: I don't have an Ubuntu LiveCD with me, only a box of Kubuntu ones (I'm trying to print one off for Software Freedom Day/week and don't know what package to download to get it) | 18:18 |
Chipzz | wouldn't the Kubuntu posters be on the Kubuntu CD instead of on the Ubuntu CD? :) | 18:22 |
shadeslayer | Chipzz: youd think so | 18:23 |
shadeslayer | but they are on the Ubuntu CD... along with Xubuntu ones | 18:24 |
charlie-tca | that's not the "example-content" file, is it? | 18:24 |
shadeslayer | charlie-tca: aye | 18:24 |
shadeslayer | its a pretty nice set | 18:24 |
Chipzz | ryanakca: if you know the filename, you can use packages.ubuntu.org | 18:24 |
charlie-tca | package name is "example-content | 18:24 |
charlie-tca | " | 18:25 |
ryanakca | Ew. The example-content still uses old artwork and thinks we use Konqueror as our file manager. | 18:26 |
ryanakca | (On Lucid anyways) | 18:27 |
shadeslayer | ryanakca: time for a update to that package then i guess :P | 18:31 |
ryanakca | Quite :) | 18:31 |
ryanakca | shadeslayer: I guess I'll have to make my own poster and update the package with it... | 18:32 |
shadeslayer | :D | 18:32 |
shadeslayer | ryanakca: poke sheytan with the artwork stuff | 18:32 |
shadeslayer | he is really really good at it | 18:33 |
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lex79 | cjwatson: can you add libbluedevil and bluedevil to the set of kubuntu packages please? :P | 21:34 |
lex79 | thanks | 21:34 |
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Jarvis | any core devs about? i'm trying to chase somone to take a look at Bug #539814 | 23:19 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 539814 in tar (Ubuntu Lucid) "tar: futimens() with a bad file descriptor (AT_FDCWD) causes bootstrapping failure with kernels < 2.6.22" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/539814 | 23:19 |
dupondje | pfft :( sd card on my laptop is so broken in recent kernels :( | 23:24 |
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