[02:30] <ScottK> Chipzz: That's one theory I guess.
[05:52] <Kalidarn> just wondering if it'd be acceptable to open a bug for this, encrypted LVM in ubuntu 10.04 seems to break suspend mode
[05:52] <Kalidarn> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemLVMHowto#Some%20Notes it says here "Suspend or suspend2 don't work with this configuration. If you have a working configuration with suspend or suspend2, please append to this article or post a separate one." I'm using Ubuntu 10.04 LTS.
[05:52] <Kalidarn> it does say there in the wiki that it does not work
[05:52] <Kalidarn> I'm just wondering if there's a technical reason as to why it doesn't work
[05:53] <Kalidarn> ie something related to security, the swap file is encrypted so it shouldn't be an issue suspending to it.
[05:54] <Kalidarn> it'd be also interesting if someone with a 10.10 release could test it, incase it has been fixed.
[05:54] <Kalidarn> too much info relates t < 8.04 which was back when we had HAL
[07:10] <riyaz> hi everyone i am here to get some idea about contributting to open source by the way i am interested to learn core programming ....anybody can help??
[07:16] <chris_osx> riyaz: do you mean kernel hacking?
[07:17] <riyaz> chris_osx:no no just to contribute some applications ..
[09:40] <damascene> hi,
[09:54] <Damascene> hi, I made a summary page about decentralized Ubuntu package system https://wiki.ubuntu.com/damascene/Decentralized%20Ubuntu please look at it.
[14:13] <bonii> I had a problem with sound in headphones on my new asus eee pc running lucid, I followed instructions here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Audio/InstallingLinuxAlsaDriverModules, the module is only available for 2.6.32-24 kernel and currently on lucid I am running 2.6.32-25 kernel, so will the fix be patched into this kernel, please advise
[14:17] <fagan> bonii: if it doesnt work in maverick then you can make a bug report about it
[14:20] <Chipzz> bonii: pls don't abuse this channel for bug reports, especially not for bug reports about stable..
[14:20] <Chipzz> err, s/bug reports/support/
[14:23] <fagan> Chipzz: I was just saying to report a bug if its not in maverick
[14:23] <fagan> and the channel was quiet so its all good
[14:24] <Chipzz> fagan: no. this channel being quiet is no excuse for abusing it
[14:24] <fagan> Chipzz: I wasnt
[14:24] <Chipzz> fagan: and my comment wasn't aimed at you...
[14:24] <fagan> oh sorry
[14:25] <bonii> I am sorry if I abused something, I just thought of cross checking with the devs before filing a report, whether the fix was in the process of being pushed
[14:25] <bonii> Sorry if it went againts the channel policy
[14:25] <fagan> bonii: well the kernel version should be fine for maverick
[14:25] <Chipzz> bonii: it's good practice to read a channels' topic before talking in it
[14:26]  * Chipzz wonders why ppl never do that. *sigh*
[14:26]  * bonii goes to read the topic
[14:26] <fagan> Chipzz: its a bad habit really for people
[14:26] <Chipzz> that last thing was a generic comment, not aimed at you specifically bonii
[14:26] <fagan> they see the channel name and think this one can give me the answer
[14:26] <bonii> Chipzz: :)
[14:28] <Chipzz> I am really really REALLY considering a patch to xchat which pops up a big warning to read the channel topic upon starting it, with a greyed out 'ok' button that only gets enabled after 10 seconds, and the only way to turn it off a hidden and undocumented gconf option
[14:29] <fagan> Chipzz: hmmm people would still probably ignore it
[14:29] <Laney> ...the original query wasn't that bad
[14:29] <fagan> its one of those things that ive come to accept that its always going to happen
[14:29] <Laney> this is a gross overreaction
[14:29] <Chipzz> Laney: I'm just ranting about no-one caring about topics anymore, not so much about the original query ;)
[14:30] <Laney> an off-topic rant about people being off-topic
[14:30] <Laney> hmm
[14:30] <fagan> :)
[14:44] <Chipzz> bonii: about your original query; #ubuntu is for general support; if you don't get an answer there, you could try #ubuntu-kernel (not 100% sure if it's on-topic there)
[14:48] <fagan> (it is on topic for that channel)
[14:49] <Chipzz> since #ubuntu-kernel's topic doesn't specify wether it's only about stable or devel too, and the wiki page mentions the "The Ubuntu Kernel Team" and "Crack of the Day", I'ld say it is
[14:58] <bonii> Chipzz: Thanks, I will check that out
[17:36] <cjwatson> Chipzz: honestly, most of these OT questions could be defused with much less noise in the channel if you'd be a little bit less hair-trigger-annoyed in your replies.  A polite redirection suffices and is more within the spirit of the code of conduct.  There's no need to rant at people.
[17:40] <cjwatson> the person who came in was apologetic and polite when corrected
[17:40] <Chipzz> cjwatson: and I did point him in the right direction
[17:40] <cjwatson> you were unnecessarily vitriolic.
[17:40] <cjwatson> please try to refrain from that in future
[17:43] <cjwatson> (yes, you did point him in the right direction)
[17:45] <Chipzz> cjwatson: IMO, much of these OT questions could be avoided by simply setting the channel +s
[17:45] <Chipzz> so it doesn't show up in the server list of channels
[17:46] <cjwatson> I don't think that's necessary.  The OT questions are not a significant contributor of noise.  The attempts to police them, however, do seem to be
[17:47] <cjwatson> I frequently read through long backlogs of this channel to find a small amount of OT questions and a huge screed of flamewar about whether it was appropriate or not
[17:47] <cjwatson> being a bit more relaxed in directing people to where they can best get help would do everyone a lot of good, I think
[17:48] <cjwatson> I've bitten my tongue about it for some time because I don't want to be part of the same problem
[17:49] <cjwatson> but the contrast with some other channels where somebody comes in with a question, we say "sorry, this isn't really the right place, try #whatever", and they say thanks and leave, is quite marked
[17:50] <fagan> I tend to do that but if it can be answered in one line anyway I just answer and say this isnt the place
[17:50] <fagan> if no one answers
[17:55] <Chipzz> cjwatson: I did say it was not the place, and I did point him in the right direction. and the rant wasn't directed at him specifically
[17:58] <Chipzz> or is it my use of the word "abuse" you're objecting to?
[17:58] <fagan> Oh yeah I mean say that I was just shortening it
[17:59] <Laney> The whole diatribe was unnecessary. If you'd have just redirected him in one line then nobody would have got upset.
[17:59] <fagan> True but I answered the question in one line instead and I thought that it was ok
[18:00] <fagan> but then 10 mins later it spawned the other thing
[18:00] <Laney> fagan: yes, it should have been the end of it
[18:00] <Chipzz> fagan: I don't think this is about you :)
[18:00] <fagan> :)
[18:00] <Laney> Enough about this for now though, please
[18:00] <fagan> yep
[18:10] <ryanakca> Anybody know which package the Kubuntu posters are in on the LiveCD?
[18:13] <Chipzz> ryanakca: I don't, but have you tried dpkg -S?
[18:18] <ryanakca> Chipzz: I don't have an Ubuntu LiveCD with me, only a box of Kubuntu ones (I'm trying to print one off for Software Freedom Day/week and don't know what package to download to get it)
[18:22] <Chipzz> wouldn't the Kubuntu posters be on the Kubuntu CD instead of on the Ubuntu CD? :)
[18:23] <shadeslayer> Chipzz: youd think so
[18:24] <shadeslayer> but they are on the Ubuntu CD... along with Xubuntu ones
[18:24] <charlie-tca> that's not the "example-content" file, is it?
[18:24] <shadeslayer> charlie-tca: aye
[18:24] <shadeslayer> its a pretty nice set
[18:24] <Chipzz> ryanakca: if you know the filename, you can use packages.ubuntu.org
[18:24] <charlie-tca> package name is "example-content
[18:25] <charlie-tca> "
[18:26] <ryanakca> Ew. The example-content still uses old artwork and thinks we use Konqueror as our file manager.
[18:27] <ryanakca> (On Lucid anyways)
[18:31] <shadeslayer> ryanakca: time for a update to that package then i guess :P
[18:31] <ryanakca> Quite :)
[18:32] <ryanakca> shadeslayer: I guess I'll have to make my own poster and update the package with it...
[18:32] <shadeslayer> :D
[18:32] <shadeslayer> ryanakca: poke sheytan with the artwork stuff
[18:33] <shadeslayer> he is really really good at it
[21:34] <lex79> cjwatson: can you add libbluedevil and bluedevil to the set of kubuntu packages please? :P
[21:34] <lex79> thanks
[23:19] <Jarvis> any core devs about? i'm trying to chase somone to take a look at Bug #539814
[23:24] <dupondje> pfft :( sd card on my laptop is so broken in recent kernels :(