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bilalakhtarCan anyone suggest me a few bugs that need to be SRUed so that I could work on them?06:45
* micahg needs an SRU uploaded :-/06:50
bilalakhtarmicahg: YOu need one uploaded, right? I need one to work on!06:53
bilalakhtarmicahg: You need an SRU uploaded from the Mozilla package set?06:53
micahgbilalakhtar: yes, I can only upload to maverick and later06:54
bilalakhtarActually, I got a patch for one thing and nominated it for lucid so that I could get it into -proposed and hence SRUed. But pitti declined it, saying 'This issue is not a large one'06:54
lifelessbilalakhtar: why do you need to work on an SRU ?06:56
bilalakhtarlifeless: a bug!06:56
lifelessbilalakhtar: I mean, its nice that you're contributing, but why an SRU in particular? SRU's are -very- costly to do in terms of time, testing, QA & risk.06:56
bilalakhtaroh, you asked why?06:56
bilalakhtarlifeless: I have applied for MOTU, and tumbleweed and ari-tczew (I don't know the spelling) have said that its difficult to become MOTU unless and unti you work on one. AND I like the SRU process, so it would be something good you're contributing to Ubuntu06:57
micahgbilalakhtar: there's not enough time between now and the next meeting to get an SRU verified and into -updates06:58
bilalakhtarmicahg: Atleast you could get it into -proposed!06:59
micahgbilalakhtar: right, but the true test is that is gets to -updates and Fix Releases w/out regressions06:59
bilalakhtarmicahg: of course, that's why I am searching for bugs that can be patched cleanly06:59
lifelessbilalakhtar: well, FWIW, I'm MOTU, but I wouldn't personally look for 'has done an SRU' as a particularly important metric for being a MOTU.07:00
lifelessconsistent and accurate work on packages, knowing when out of depth, working well with the group : those are the things I'd look for.07:00
bilalakhtarI could point out that I have seen 2 bugs getting SRUed from the beginning07:00
bilalakhtarso I know thw workflow07:00
bilalakhtarthe importance of preventing regressiions07:01
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bilalakhtarWhoa! No updates overnight in maverick!07:36
bilalakhtareveryone is enjoying the weekend07:36
* micahg will probably upload something a little later07:36
LaibschI'm in the process of taking over maintainership of isdnutils07:41
LaibschI looked at the Ubuntu package and especially the patches07:41
LaibschI don't quite understand what's the use of the script of many of the patches in the form of http://patches.ubuntu.com/i/isdnutils/extracted/template.dpatch07:42
Laibschfor example http://patches.ubuntu.com/i/isdnutils/extracted/vboxplay-bashisms.dpatch and http://patches.ubuntu.com/i/isdnutils/extracted/ppp-2.4.4b1.dpatch07:42
Laibschseems like a waste of space07:42
micahgLaibsch: convert to quilt and or src format 3 :)07:43
LaibschI usually do07:43
bilalakhtarLaibsch: use 3.0 (quilt) format, that'll help you07:43
bilalakhtarmicahg: :)07:43
LaibschI just wonder why those things were ever there in the first place07:43
micahgLaibsch: make dpatch more polite maybe?07:44
LaibschDebian package already does use DebSrc3.007:44
* bilalakhtar hates dpatch, just because its patches are too cumbersome07:44
Laibschanyway seems like it should be safe to ignore that script-in-patch07:45
micahgLaibsch: fail more gracefully07:45
bilalakhtarLaibsch: You're free to drop Ubuntu changes if they are no longer needed, or are unnecessary07:45
Laibschnot my concern I think07:45
Laibschbilalakhtar: I know about that07:45
micahgLaibsch: are you taking over in Debian?07:45
Laibschisdnutils will need a LOT of TLC first07:45
Laibschof course07:45
Laibschmicahg: ^^^07:45
micahgthat'll be good, we've been ahead of Debian since hardy :-/07:45
Laibschone of the last entries07:46
* bilalakhtar wishes he could maintain a package in Debian, he has 6 ITPs pending07:46
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Laibschyes, I always make it a priority to go back to syncing instead of merging07:46
* micahg was going to co-maintain something, but the main updater beat me to to update07:46
Laibschbut isdnutils will be a tough nut to crack07:46
Laibschmaybe not tough07:46
micahgLaibsch: you're a brave soul07:46
Laibschbut a lot of little things to fix07:47
Laibschmaybe I'm just stupid enough ;-)07:47
LaibschI hardly even use the package ;-)07:47
LaibschBut I believe in small changes07:47
Laibschand release early and often07:47
bilalakhtarRoAkSoAx: What's the matter with your connection?07:47
Laibschas long as I can improve things a little07:47
bilalakhtarRoAkSoAx: Would like to remind you about bug #54726707:48
ubottuError: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: The read operation timed out (https://launchpad.net/bugs/547267)07:48
RoAkSoAxlol idk :)07:48
Laibschmicahg: you are interested in comaintainership07:48
LaibschI was looking for a few more people07:48
Laibschbecause there are certainly a number of things I don't know very well in isdn07:49
bilalakhtarmicahg is the ubuntu-mozilla golden dev!07:49
LaibschI've got one comaintainer that knows how to code, I'm more of a packaging guy07:49
Laibschbut I felt that was the bare minimum07:49
LaibschI would not have taken over all by myself07:49
Laibschif you'd like to join you'd be more than welcome07:50
micahgLaibsch: I'm already in over my head w/the mozilla rdepends + the packages I use on a regular basis07:50
LaibschI asked a number of people including Paul, but they declined for various reasons07:50
bilalakhtarLaibsch: You mean Paul Wise?07:50
micahgI am trying to start working on the xul rdepends in Debian though, I just need a little time to acclimate to git07:50
RoAkSoAxbilalakthar will do had been working on other stuff.07:51
micahgLaibsch: unfortunately, also, I don't know much about isdnutils, so it would be all uphill and I can't take that on ATM07:51
bilalakhtarRoAkSoAx: No problem :) No urgency, well you spelt my nick wrong !07:51
Laibschbilalakhtar: no, paul slootman07:51
Laibschlast Debian maintainer07:52
Laibschof many years07:52
Laibschmicahg: I know almost nothing about isdn07:52
Laibschthe other guy does07:52
RoAkSoAxsry im from cell phone :)07:52
micahgbilalakhtar: and chrisccoulson would probably be more the ubuntu-mozilla golden dev, I'm just the helper :)07:52
Laibschagain, I'm bringing DM status and packaging know-how, the other guy the coding skills and isdn knowledge to the table07:53
Laibschmore packaging skills would certainly be good07:53
* micahg goes looking for tumbleweed's grab-udd-merge script07:53
Laibschand since you're only co-maintaining there's no immediate sole responsibility07:53
Laibschpackaging will be maintained in git-debian.org07:53
bilalakhtarmicahg: Has it been completed? I don't uppose07:53
Laibschfeel free to stop by even as non-maintainer07:53
micahgbilalakhtar: what?07:54
bilalakhtarmicahg: grab-udd-merge07:54
micahgbilalakhtar: no, I think it's in progress07:54
micahgLaibsch: I have a passing interest in pastebinit, but there doesn't seem to be a lot of bugs for it07:55
tumbleweedmicahg: found it?08:44
micahgtumbleweed: yep, thanks, the package hasn't reached experimental yet though, so I haven't tested it yet08:48
micahgtumbleweed: do you have time to sponsor an SRU?09:20
tumbleweedmicahg: sure09:21
micahgbug 62580109:22
ubottuLaunchpad bug 625801 in gnome-web-photo (Ubuntu Lucid) "gnome-web-photo missing required libxul.so" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/62580109:22
AlanBellat the moment adobe-flashplugin is not available in the canonical partner archive, how do I file a bug about this?09:49
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AlanBellthe problem it causes is that if you get guided to the adobe site to install flash it tries to use apt:adobe-flashplugin?channel=$dist-partner09:49
AlanBellapt:adobe-flashplugin?channel=$distro-partner rather09:50
micahgAlanBell: AFAIK, there are no partner uploads yet09:50
AlanBellthere are some09:50
AlanBellin fact it is there in i38609:51
micahgAlanBell: idk then, seems weird, I know that sun java isn't there yet09:52
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ari-tczewtumbleweed: around?12:13
tumbleweedari-tczew: yes12:13
ari-tczewtumbleweed: could you give me more information about this: versionmangle strips .dfsg, but your package is +dfsg12:15
tumbleweedari-tczew: s/\.dfsg// isn't exactly what you want wen your version is 0.4.2+dfsg12:17
ari-tczewtumbleweed: which file?12:17
tumbleweedari-tczew: debian/watch12:18
ari-tczewtumbleweed: about README.source: has suggested by Rhonda :P12:25
tumbleweedAs I said, not everything I mentioned has to be dealt with, you can disagree with me :) It's a nice readme, but I'd expect people to know quilt now that it's part of source format 3.12:27
ari-tczewtumbleweed: about 0.5 version: it's unstable version12:29
tumbleweedari-tczew: aah, thanks for clearing that up12:30
ari-tczewtumbleweed: I'm not sure 100%, I'll ask upstream => davidsansome12:30
ari-tczewtumbleweed: about copyright... it's also reviewed by Rhonda. we wanted add information about /debian* files. could you review older revisions on my branch? diff is here: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ari-tczew/clementine/REVU/revision/712:32
tumbleweedari-tczew: the way I understand dep5, if you want to use a licence-body multiple times, you put it in a standalone section (i.e. just License: Foo\nBody) and reference it from all the stanzas that need it12:34
tumbleweedwhen you have "License: Foo or Bar" you have to have two standalone sections12:34
ari-tczewtumbleweed: do you mean about this: License: Qt Commercial or LGPL-2.1 or GPL-312:36
tumbleweedyeah, also the CPL one12:36
ari-tczewtumbleweed: I understand, we should choice one license right?12:36
tumbleweedari-tczew: no, I'm saying if you have "Qt Commercial or LGPL-2.1" you don't follow that with the Qt body12:37
tumbleweedit doesn't matter that much, nothing is parsing DEP5 (yet?). I just think it's not technically correct.12:37
ari-tczewtumbleweed: copyright file is maintained by davidsansome. but I understand, that I'm responsible for this one as uploader.12:39
ari-tczewtumbleweed: btw. can I create file when I can write who created which file?12:39
ari-tczewcredits file12:39
tumbleweedari-tczew: I don't really untersntand?12:41
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ari-tczewtumbleweed: I;m not an author of all files in debian/*. I want to write somewhere credits. e.g. ari-tczew is an author of debian/rules, John Doe is an author of debian/copyright12:43
tumbleweedari-tczew: you can do that12:46
ari-tczewkklimonda: around?12:57
Laneyari-tczew: you can do that, but do you really need to? The changelog is good attribution.12:58
ari-tczewLaney: for me is not problem, just asking for developers feedback12:58
ari-tczewLaney: I thought that README.debian or something is for credits12:59
Laneyif you feel you've made a substantial contribution then you can add yourself as a copyright holeder12:59
ari-tczewkklimonda: bug with g-s-d is when I copy/paste from image taken throgh print screen13:27
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ari-tczewkklimonda: your second patch isn't fixed the problem :(14:33
c_kornhow could I write a debian/watch file for the release version of snowglobe? http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Snowglobe14:42
c_kornthe download directory does not give any information if it is a release or development version14:42
RainCTwow Launchpad is sucking badly16:32
RainCTHey c_korn16:34
RainCTc_korn: Are you aware that there are existing packages for Snowglobe? http://apt.byteme.org.uk/16:34
RainCTc_korn: The authors of that were looking into getting it into Debian some months ago, I'm not sure why they haven't done so yet.16:35
korn_RainCT: seems they do not have a watch file at all anyway: http://git.byteme.org.uk/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=snowglobe.git;a=tree;f=trunk/debian;h=056f47cd5ce07c3671361aa8beea14e8a42a663e;hb=HEAD16:39
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\shdid I already said, that I hate "On Duty" services, even paid ones?17:00
Laneywhat's an 'on duty' service?17:08
sebnerLaney: I guess that's end-user phone support over the weekend @home18:08
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valavanisalexHi all, I'm struggling with a manual merge on bug #62804819:36
ubottuLaunchpad bug 628048 in mesa (Ubuntu) "[FFe] Mesa 7.9" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/62804819:36
valavanisalexCan anyone help my figure out why it is giving FTBFS?19:36
tumbleweedvalavanisalex: manual merge? as opposed to?19:37
valavanisalexAs opposed to bzr-mergepackage or MoM19:37
tumbleweedif you prefer bzr, you can bzr import-dsc the experimental dsc onto your debian branch then merge-package that19:38
kklimondahmm.. django has some tests that depend on UTF-8 locales. Are there any locales with UTF-8 on builders and if not can I install language-pack-en-base?19:38
tumbleweedvalavanisalex: my guess is that /usr/share/pixmaps hasn't been created. Put it in debian/dirs19:38
valavanisalexAh, does that work even if the debian package is maintained in git?19:38
evilshadeslayervalavanisalex: inkscape.xpm << is that file in debian/ ?19:39
tumbleweedoh, yes, do you have a debian/inkscape.xmp? :)19:39
valavanisalexyes, debian/inkscape.xpm is present19:39
evilshadeslayeroh then debian/dirs mod :D19:40
valavanisalexbut /usr/share/pixmaps is not in debian dirs19:40
valavanisalexI'll try that!19:40
tumbleweedvalavanisalex: debian using git doesn't matter19:40
valavanisalextumbleweed: great, thanks19:40
kklimondaor I could regenrate locales on the fly..19:40
valavanisalexweird: /usr/share/pixmaps wasn't in the old ubuntu version either, but that builds with no problems19:41
evilshadeslayervalavanisalex: loads of stuff changes19:41
evilshadeslayercould be that some other package created that dir19:41
evilshadeslayerbut now it doesnt... so ...19:42
valavanisalexyeah, I guess so.  Thanks for the help.  I'll modify debian/dirs and see if it builds correctly19:42
tumbleweedno other package will create that dir, (it's actualy $(CURDIR)/debian/inkscape/usr/share/pixmaps ), but it could be created by some other part of the build19:43
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micahgtumbleweed: for sablotron, xml-resume-library has an optional recommends on sablotron, no need to remove20:04
tumbleweedmicahg: yeah, but it looks like it might as well go20:09
micahgtumbleweed: oh, I see :), removed from unstable, good call20:10
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OwaisLHey friends. I read somewhere that the Extra repo is up. What is the workflow to submit apps?21:45
OwaisLRainCT: hey, I uploaded a sane version of that package lately to REVU. Want to check out? http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/gmailwatcher21:48
kevykev1Hello everyone !! I am new to the team and would like to introduce myself.. My name is Kevin McKinney; I am a masters student at Carnegie Mellon University.22:09
iulianHello Kevin.22:09
kevykev1I am a C / C++ programmer (not an expert); and I would like to start helping out anyway I can22:09
kevykev1Hi iulian22:10
kevykev1I an interested in enhancing the gnome-device-manager package22:10
iuliankevykev1: Cool.  You might be interested in joining #ubuntu-desktop.  The guys from there deal with gnome packages.22:11
kevykev1okay, i will join that channel22:11
kmckinney1Thanks iulian!! I have joined the #ubuntu-desktop channel..22:17
iuliankmckinney1: You're welcome.22:21
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ari-tczewtumbleweed: around?22:52
tumbleweedari-tczew: only just22:54
blackmatterLF mentor23:52
lfaraone_What's the youngest current age of a MOTU?23:56
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micahglfaraone: at least 17 on the way down23:57
lfaraonemicahg: hm? just wondering. I'm a little bit above 17, and wondering if I'm that one.23:58
micahglfaraone: no :), I'm thinking of nhandler23:59

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