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| bilalakhtar | Can anyone suggest me a few bugs that need to be SRUed so that I could work on them? | 06:45 |
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| * micahg needs an SRU uploaded :-/ | 06:50 | |
| bilalakhtar | micahg: YOu need one uploaded, right? I need one to work on! | 06:53 |
| bilalakhtar | micahg: You need an SRU uploaded from the Mozilla package set? | 06:53 |
| micahg | bilalakhtar: yes, I can only upload to maverick and later | 06:54 |
| bilalakhtar | Actually, I got a patch for one thing and nominated it for lucid so that I could get it into -proposed and hence SRUed. But pitti declined it, saying 'This issue is not a large one' | 06:54 |
| lifeless | bilalakhtar: why do you need to work on an SRU ? | 06:56 |
| bilalakhtar | lifeless: a bug! | 06:56 |
| lifeless | bilalakhtar: I mean, its nice that you're contributing, but why an SRU in particular? SRU's are -very- costly to do in terms of time, testing, QA & risk. | 06:56 |
| bilalakhtar | oh, you asked why? | 06:56 |
| bilalakhtar | lifeless: I have applied for MOTU, and tumbleweed and ari-tczew (I don't know the spelling) have said that its difficult to become MOTU unless and unti you work on one. AND I like the SRU process, so it would be something good you're contributing to Ubuntu | 06:57 |
| micahg | bilalakhtar: there's not enough time between now and the next meeting to get an SRU verified and into -updates | 06:58 |
| bilalakhtar | micahg: Atleast you could get it into -proposed! | 06:59 |
| micahg | bilalakhtar: right, but the true test is that is gets to -updates and Fix Releases w/out regressions | 06:59 |
| bilalakhtar | micahg: of course, that's why I am searching for bugs that can be patched cleanly | 06:59 |
| lifeless | bilalakhtar: well, FWIW, I'm MOTU, but I wouldn't personally look for 'has done an SRU' as a particularly important metric for being a MOTU. | 07:00 |
| lifeless | consistent and accurate work on packages, knowing when out of depth, working well with the group : those are the things I'd look for. | 07:00 |
| bilalakhtar | I could point out that I have seen 2 bugs getting SRUed from the beginning | 07:00 |
| bilalakhtar | so I know thw workflow | 07:00 |
| bilalakhtar | AND | 07:00 |
| bilalakhtar | the importance of preventing regressiions | 07:01 |
| * bilalakhtar hates his keyboard | 07:01 | |
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| bilalakhtar | Whoa! No updates overnight in maverick! | 07:36 |
| bilalakhtar | everyone is enjoying the weekend | 07:36 |
| * micahg will probably upload something a little later | 07:36 | |
| Laibsch | Hi | 07:41 |
| Laibsch | I'm in the process of taking over maintainership of isdnutils | 07:41 |
| Laibsch | I looked at the Ubuntu package and especially the patches | 07:41 |
| Laibsch | I don't quite understand what's the use of the script of many of the patches in the form of http://patches.ubuntu.com/i/isdnutils/extracted/template.dpatch | 07:42 |
| Laibsch | for example http://patches.ubuntu.com/i/isdnutils/extracted/vboxplay-bashisms.dpatch and http://patches.ubuntu.com/i/isdnutils/extracted/ppp-2.4.4b1.dpatch | 07:42 |
| Laibsch | seems like a waste of space | 07:42 |
| micahg | Laibsch: convert to quilt and or src format 3 :) | 07:43 |
| Laibsch | I usually do | 07:43 |
| bilalakhtar | Laibsch: use 3.0 (quilt) format, that'll help you | 07:43 |
| bilalakhtar | micahg: :) | 07:43 |
| Laibsch | I just wonder why those things were ever there in the first place | 07:43 |
| micahg | Laibsch: make dpatch more polite maybe? | 07:44 |
| Laibsch | Debian package already does use DebSrc3.0 | 07:44 |
| * bilalakhtar hates dpatch, just because its patches are too cumbersome | 07:44 | |
| Laibsch | polite? | 07:44 |
| Laibsch | anyway seems like it should be safe to ignore that script-in-patch | 07:45 |
| micahg | Laibsch: fail more gracefully | 07:45 |
| Laibsch | aha | 07:45 |
| bilalakhtar | Laibsch: You're free to drop Ubuntu changes if they are no longer needed, or are unnecessary | 07:45 |
| Laibsch | not my concern I think | 07:45 |
| Laibsch | bilalakhtar: I know about that | 07:45 |
| Laibsch | thanks | 07:45 |
| micahg | Laibsch: are you taking over in Debian? | 07:45 |
| Laibsch | isdnutils will need a LOT of TLC first | 07:45 |
| Laibsch | of course | 07:45 |
| Laibsch | micahg: ^^^ | 07:45 |
| micahg | that'll be good, we've been ahead of Debian since hardy :-/ | 07:45 |
| Laibsch | http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=foss@rolf.leggewie.biz | 07:46 |
| Laibsch | one of the last entries | 07:46 |
| * bilalakhtar wishes he could maintain a package in Debian, he has 6 ITPs pending | 07:46 | |
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| Laibsch | yes, I always make it a priority to go back to syncing instead of merging | 07:46 |
| * micahg was going to co-maintain something, but the main updater beat me to to update | 07:46 | |
| Laibsch | but isdnutils will be a tough nut to crack | 07:46 |
| Laibsch | maybe not tough | 07:46 |
| micahg | Laibsch: you're a brave soul | 07:46 |
| Laibsch | but a lot of little things to fix | 07:47 |
| Laibsch | maybe I'm just stupid enough ;-) | 07:47 |
| Laibsch | I hardly even use the package ;-) | 07:47 |
| Laibsch | But I believe in small changes | 07:47 |
| Laibsch | and release early and often | 07:47 |
| bilalakhtar | RoAkSoAx: What's the matter with your connection? | 07:47 |
| Laibsch | as long as I can improve things a little | 07:47 |
| bilalakhtar | RoAkSoAx: Would like to remind you about bug #547267 | 07:48 |
| ubottu | Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: The read operation timed out (https://launchpad.net/bugs/547267) | 07:48 |
| RoAkSoAx | lol idk :) | 07:48 |
| Laibsch | micahg: you are interested in comaintainership | 07:48 |
| Laibsch | ? | 07:48 |
| Laibsch | I was looking for a few more people | 07:48 |
| Laibsch | because there are certainly a number of things I don't know very well in isdn | 07:49 |
| bilalakhtar | micahg is the ubuntu-mozilla golden dev! | 07:49 |
| Laibsch | I've got one comaintainer that knows how to code, I'm more of a packaging guy | 07:49 |
| Laibsch | but I felt that was the bare minimum | 07:49 |
| Laibsch | I would not have taken over all by myself | 07:49 |
| Laibsch | if you'd like to join you'd be more than welcome | 07:50 |
| micahg | Laibsch: I'm already in over my head w/the mozilla rdepends + the packages I use on a regular basis | 07:50 |
| Laibsch | I asked a number of people including Paul, but they declined for various reasons | 07:50 |
| bilalakhtar | Laibsch: You mean Paul Wise? | 07:50 |
| micahg | I am trying to start working on the xul rdepends in Debian though, I just need a little time to acclimate to git | 07:50 |
| RoAkSoAx | bilalakthar will do had been working on other stuff. | 07:51 |
| micahg | Laibsch: unfortunately, also, I don't know much about isdnutils, so it would be all uphill and I can't take that on ATM | 07:51 |
| bilalakhtar | RoAkSoAx: No problem :) No urgency, well you spelt my nick wrong ! | 07:51 |
| Laibsch | bilalakhtar: no, paul slootman | 07:51 |
| Laibsch | last Debian maintainer | 07:52 |
| Laibsch | of many years | 07:52 |
| Laibsch | micahg: I know almost nothing about isdn | 07:52 |
| Laibsch | the other guy does | 07:52 |
| RoAkSoAx | sry im from cell phone :) | 07:52 |
| micahg | bilalakhtar: and chrisccoulson would probably be more the ubuntu-mozilla golden dev, I'm just the helper :) | 07:52 |
| Laibsch | again, I'm bringing DM status and packaging know-how, the other guy the coding skills and isdn knowledge to the table | 07:53 |
| Laibsch | more packaging skills would certainly be good | 07:53 |
| * micahg goes looking for tumbleweed's grab-udd-merge script | 07:53 | |
| Laibsch | and since you're only co-maintaining there's no immediate sole responsibility | 07:53 |
| Laibsch | packaging will be maintained in git-debian.org | 07:53 |
| bilalakhtar | micahg: Has it been completed? I don't uppose | 07:53 |
| bilalakhtar | *suppose | 07:53 |
| Laibsch | feel free to stop by even as non-maintainer | 07:53 |
| micahg | bilalakhtar: what? | 07:54 |
| bilalakhtar | micahg: grab-udd-merge | 07:54 |
| micahg | bilalakhtar: no, I think it's in progress | 07:54 |
| micahg | Laibsch: I have a passing interest in pastebinit, but there doesn't seem to be a lot of bugs for it | 07:55 |
| AnAnt | Hello | 08:14 |
| tumbleweed | micahg: found it? | 08:44 |
| micahg | tumbleweed: yep, thanks, the package hasn't reached experimental yet though, so I haven't tested it yet | 08:48 |
| micahg | tumbleweed: do you have time to sponsor an SRU? | 09:20 |
| tumbleweed | micahg: sure | 09:21 |
| micahg | bug 625801 | 09:22 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 625801 in gnome-web-photo (Ubuntu Lucid) "gnome-web-photo missing required libxul.so" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/625801 | 09:22 |
| AlanBell | at the moment adobe-flashplugin is not available in the canonical partner archive, how do I file a bug about this? | 09:49 |
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| AlanBell | the problem it causes is that if you get guided to the adobe site to install flash it tries to use apt:adobe-flashplugin?channel=$dist-partner | 09:49 |
| AlanBell | apt:adobe-flashplugin?channel=$distro-partner rather | 09:50 |
| micahg | AlanBell: AFAIK, there are no partner uploads yet | 09:50 |
| AlanBell | there are some | 09:50 |
| AlanBell | http://archive.canonical.com/dists/maverick/partner/binary-amd64/Packages | 09:50 |
| AlanBell | in fact it is there in i386 | 09:51 |
| AlanBell | http://archive.canonical.com/dists/maverick/partner/binary-i386/Packages | 09:51 |
| micahg | AlanBell: idk then, seems weird, I know that sun java isn't there yet | 09:52 |
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| ari-tczew | tumbleweed: around? | 12:13 |
| tumbleweed | ari-tczew: yes | 12:13 |
| ari-tczew | tumbleweed: could you give me more information about this: versionmangle strips .dfsg, but your package is +dfsg | 12:15 |
| tumbleweed | ari-tczew: s/\.dfsg// isn't exactly what you want wen your version is 0.4.2+dfsg | 12:17 |
| ari-tczew | tumbleweed: which file? | 12:17 |
| tumbleweed | ari-tczew: debian/watch | 12:18 |
| ari-tczew | tumbleweed: about README.source: has suggested by Rhonda :P | 12:25 |
| tumbleweed | As I said, not everything I mentioned has to be dealt with, you can disagree with me :) It's a nice readme, but I'd expect people to know quilt now that it's part of source format 3. | 12:27 |
| ari-tczew | tumbleweed: about 0.5 version: it's unstable version | 12:29 |
| tumbleweed | ari-tczew: aah, thanks for clearing that up | 12:30 |
| ari-tczew | tumbleweed: I'm not sure 100%, I'll ask upstream => davidsansome | 12:30 |
| ari-tczew | tumbleweed: about copyright... it's also reviewed by Rhonda. we wanted add information about /debian* files. could you review older revisions on my branch? diff is here: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ari-tczew/clementine/REVU/revision/7 | 12:32 |
| tumbleweed | ari-tczew: the way I understand dep5, if you want to use a licence-body multiple times, you put it in a standalone section (i.e. just License: Foo\nBody) and reference it from all the stanzas that need it | 12:34 |
| tumbleweed | when you have "License: Foo or Bar" you have to have two standalone sections | 12:34 |
| ari-tczew | tumbleweed: do you mean about this: License: Qt Commercial or LGPL-2.1 or GPL-3 | 12:36 |
| tumbleweed | yeah, also the CPL one | 12:36 |
| ari-tczew | tumbleweed: I understand, we should choice one license right? | 12:36 |
| tumbleweed | ari-tczew: no, I'm saying if you have "Qt Commercial or LGPL-2.1" you don't follow that with the Qt body | 12:37 |
| tumbleweed | it doesn't matter that much, nothing is parsing DEP5 (yet?). I just think it's not technically correct. | 12:37 |
| ari-tczew | tumbleweed: copyright file is maintained by davidsansome. but I understand, that I'm responsible for this one as uploader. | 12:39 |
| ari-tczew | tumbleweed: btw. can I create file when I can write who created which file? | 12:39 |
| ari-tczew | credits file | 12:39 |
| tumbleweed | ari-tczew: I don't really untersntand? | 12:41 |
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| ari-tczew | tumbleweed: I;m not an author of all files in debian/*. I want to write somewhere credits. e.g. ari-tczew is an author of debian/rules, John Doe is an author of debian/copyright | 12:43 |
| tumbleweed | ari-tczew: you can do that | 12:46 |
| ari-tczew | kklimonda: around? | 12:57 |
| Laney | ari-tczew: you can do that, but do you really need to? The changelog is good attribution. | 12:58 |
| ari-tczew | Laney: for me is not problem, just asking for developers feedback | 12:58 |
| ari-tczew | Laney: I thought that README.debian or something is for credits | 12:59 |
| Laney | if you feel you've made a substantial contribution then you can add yourself as a copyright holeder | 12:59 |
| ari-tczew | kklimonda: bug with g-s-d is when I copy/paste from image taken throgh print screen | 13:27 |
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| ari-tczew | kklimonda: your second patch isn't fixed the problem :( | 14:33 |
| c_korn | how could I write a debian/watch file for the release version of snowglobe? http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Snowglobe | 14:42 |
| c_korn | the download directory does not give any information if it is a release or development version | 14:42 |
| RainCT | wow Launchpad is sucking badly | 16:32 |
| RainCT | Hey c_korn | 16:34 |
| RainCT | c_korn: Are you aware that there are existing packages for Snowglobe? http://apt.byteme.org.uk/ | 16:34 |
| RainCT | c_korn: The authors of that were looking into getting it into Debian some months ago, I'm not sure why they haven't done so yet. | 16:35 |
| korn_ | RainCT: seems they do not have a watch file at all anyway: http://git.byteme.org.uk/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=snowglobe.git;a=tree;f=trunk/debian;h=056f47cd5ce07c3671361aa8beea14e8a42a663e;hb=HEAD | 16:39 |
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| \sh | did I already said, that I hate "On Duty" services, even paid ones? | 17:00 |
| Laney | what's an 'on duty' service? | 17:08 |
| sebner | Laney: I guess that's end-user phone support over the weekend @home | 18:08 |
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| valavanisalex | Hi all, I'm struggling with a manual merge on bug #628048 | 19:36 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 628048 in mesa (Ubuntu) "[FFe] Mesa 7.9" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/628048 | 19:36 |
| valavanisalex | Can anyone help my figure out why it is giving FTBFS? | 19:36 |
| tumbleweed | valavanisalex: manual merge? as opposed to? | 19:37 |
| valavanisalex | As opposed to bzr-mergepackage or MoM | 19:37 |
| tumbleweed | if you prefer bzr, you can bzr import-dsc the experimental dsc onto your debian branch then merge-package that | 19:38 |
| kklimonda | hmm.. django has some tests that depend on UTF-8 locales. Are there any locales with UTF-8 on builders and if not can I install language-pack-en-base? | 19:38 |
| tumbleweed | valavanisalex: my guess is that /usr/share/pixmaps hasn't been created. Put it in debian/dirs | 19:38 |
| valavanisalex | Ah, does that work even if the debian package is maintained in git? | 19:38 |
| evilshadeslayer | valavanisalex: inkscape.xpm << is that file in debian/ ? | 19:39 |
| tumbleweed | oh, yes, do you have a debian/inkscape.xmp? :) | 19:39 |
| valavanisalex | yes, debian/inkscape.xpm is present | 19:39 |
| evilshadeslayer | oh then debian/dirs mod :D | 19:40 |
| valavanisalex | but /usr/share/pixmaps is not in debian dirs | 19:40 |
| valavanisalex | I'll try that! | 19:40 |
| tumbleweed | valavanisalex: debian using git doesn't matter | 19:40 |
| valavanisalex | tumbleweed: great, thanks | 19:40 |
| kklimonda | or I could regenrate locales on the fly.. | 19:40 |
| valavanisalex | weird: /usr/share/pixmaps wasn't in the old ubuntu version either, but that builds with no problems | 19:41 |
| evilshadeslayer | valavanisalex: loads of stuff changes | 19:41 |
| evilshadeslayer | could be that some other package created that dir | 19:41 |
| evilshadeslayer | but now it doesnt... so ... | 19:42 |
| valavanisalex | yeah, I guess so. Thanks for the help. I'll modify debian/dirs and see if it builds correctly | 19:42 |
| tumbleweed | no other package will create that dir, (it's actualy $(CURDIR)/debian/inkscape/usr/share/pixmaps ), but it could be created by some other part of the build | 19:43 |
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| micahg | tumbleweed: for sablotron, xml-resume-library has an optional recommends on sablotron, no need to remove | 20:04 |
| tumbleweed | micahg: yeah, but it looks like it might as well go | 20:09 |
| micahg | tumbleweed: oh, I see :), removed from unstable, good call | 20:10 |
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| OwaisL | Hey friends. I read somewhere that the Extra repo is up. What is the workflow to submit apps? | 21:45 |
| OwaisL | RainCT: hey, I uploaded a sane version of that package lately to REVU. Want to check out? http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/gmailwatcher | 21:48 |
| kevykev1 | Hello everyone !! I am new to the team and would like to introduce myself.. My name is Kevin McKinney; I am a masters student at Carnegie Mellon University. | 22:09 |
| iulian | Hello Kevin. | 22:09 |
| kevykev1 | I am a C / C++ programmer (not an expert); and I would like to start helping out anyway I can | 22:09 |
| kevykev1 | Hi iulian | 22:10 |
| kevykev1 | I an interested in enhancing the gnome-device-manager package | 22:10 |
| iulian | kevykev1: Cool. You might be interested in joining #ubuntu-desktop. The guys from there deal with gnome packages. | 22:11 |
| kevykev1 | okay, i will join that channel | 22:11 |
| iulian | Excellent. | 22:13 |
| kmckinney1 | Thanks iulian!! I have joined the #ubuntu-desktop channel.. | 22:17 |
| iulian | kmckinney1: You're welcome. | 22:21 |
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| ari-tczew | tumbleweed: around? | 22:52 |
| tumbleweed | ari-tczew: only just | 22:54 |
| blackmatter | LF mentor | 23:52 |
| lfaraone_ | What's the youngest current age of a MOTU? | 23:56 |
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| micahg | lfaraone: at least 17 on the way down | 23:57 |
| lfaraone | micahg: hm? just wondering. I'm a little bit above 17, and wondering if I'm that one. | 23:58 |
| micahg | lfaraone: no :), I'm thinking of nhandler | 23:59 |
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