* micahg waves02:25
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micahghi chrisccoulson09:46
chrisccoulsonhi michag10:06
chrisccoulsonmicahg even ;)10:06
micahgchrisccoulson: I see you fixed a major outstanding bug (flash click)10:08
chrisccoulsonmicahg - yeah. well, i just applied a workaround to disable GTK client-side windows10:09
chrisccoulsonit's not really a fix, but it's better than nothing :)10:09
chrisccoulsonand i've got lightning packaged and ready to upload :)10:09
micahgchrisccoulson: k, I'm fixing up the third party apport hook and uploading beta 5 to a new PPA10:10
micahgchrisccoulson: ooh..that's really good news10:10
chrisccoulsoni requested a FFe, but nobody has commented yet, so i'm not that hopeful we'll get it in for maverick :(10:10
* micahg is interested in seeing the packaging10:10
chrisccoulsonyeah, i'll host it somewhere later. i've got to disappear again now and entertain my daughter for the day10:11
micahgchrisccoulson: k, I still have mail to catch up on, but I wanted to get the Firefox beta up10:11
micahgchrisccoulson: are you back?12:07
chrisccoulsonmicahg - for a few minutes. daughter is just eating her lunch12:10
micahgchrisccoulson: ah12:10
chrisccoulsonand making a mess!12:10
micahgchrisccoulson: so, WRT gnome-web-photo, we should probably file another bug to move to the standalone glue12:11
micahgor if you know which upstream tracker is used, I can file a bug there12:11
chrisccoulsonmicahg - yeah, i don't mind. but we should definately fix that12:11
chrisccoulsoni'm not sure if it has an upstream tracker ;)12:12
micahgchrisccoulson: right, I know it's an upstream project with code at gnome, just don't know where the bugs go12:12
chrisccoulsonyeah, me neither12:12
micahgchrisccoulson: we can add it to the list for natty unless you think it should be done for maverick12:12
chrisccoulsonwe can probably do it for maverick, it's only a small change12:13
* micahg is uploading beta 5 to ppa:mozillateam/firefox-next12:13
micahgchrisccoulson: k, I'm not familiar with that change, so I guess you'd have to do it12:13
micahgI'm going to have to merge mediatomb since someone else updated it in Debian first12:14
chrisccoulsonyeah, i don't mind doing it. it should just be a case of editing LIBXUL_LIBS in m4/libxul.m4, and then rerunning autoconf12:14
micahgthen I'll work on upstreaming the diff for natty12:14
micahgah, that easy :012:14
micahgchrisccoulson: BTW, I had an epiphany over the holiday (pun intended), why don't we build abrowser on top of libxul so that it can be installed alongside firefox?12:15
micahgit also solves the omnijar issue12:15
chrisccoulsonmicahg - i was sort of thinking about making them parallel installable too, but i'm not sure whether we'd do it by using system libraries12:16
micahgchrisccoulson: well, there's no reason not to use system libraries w/abrowser since there's no trademark issue12:16
chrisccoulsonyeah, that's true12:16
micahgit's a little more maintenance, but not much12:17
micahgwe would need a new source (although I think debian is building both from one source now)12:17
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=== micahg changed the topic of #ubuntu-mozillateam to: Welcome to the Ubuntu Mozilla Team: | Mailing List: http://is.gd/83fnr | Firefox 3.6.8 in Hardy-Lucid | Firefox 3.6.9 in Maverick and Security PPA (http://is.gd/dsudW) | Thunderbird 3.1 Now in Maverick/Daily PPA, Coming to Stable PPA Soon | Firefox 4.0 Beta PPA http://is.gd/f6TM4 | Report Mozilla PPA bugs here: http://is.gd/dPMLv | Help test Mozilla prerelease updates http://is.gd/dsud
=== micahg changed the topic of #ubuntu-mozillateam to: Welcome to the Ubuntu Mozilla Team: | Mailing List: http://is.gd/83fnr | Firefox 3.6.9 in Hardy-Maverick | Thunderbird 3.1 Now in Maverick/Daily PPA, Coming to Stable PPA Soon | Firefox 4.0 Beta PPA http://is.gd/f6TM4 | Report Mozilla PPA bugs here: http://is.gd/dPMLv | Help test Mozilla prerelease updates http://is.gd/dsudW
ftaBUGabundo, hey12:56
BUGabundoolá fta12:57
ftacan't make sense of this: http://people.ubuntu.com/~fta/shipment.png12:57
BUGabundois it going around the world again?12:57
* BUGabundo checks12:57
BUGabundoyou got two in traffic ?12:58
ftano idea12:58
ftawould be nice though ;)12:58
BUGabundoship one of them to me12:59
BUGabundoill pay the ports12:59
BUGabundonot sure what I would use it for, though13:00
ftaif you don't read, it's close to useless13:02
micahgchrisccoulson: FYI, there might be a chemspill update for the last round of mozilla updates13:03
BUGabundofta yeah, I don't. unless I can put my greader there LOL13:03
ftaBUGabundo, there's a webkit based browser inside this thing13:04
ftai bought the wifi only version, but there's also a 3G version13:04
BUGabundoI'm telling you , If you get two, send me one13:04
BUGabundoI'll pay 66% of it13:04
ftamicahg, when is jaunty EOL?13:11
micahgfta: end of october13:11
ftaok, thanks13:11
ftaand hardy?13:11
micahgfta: end of april for desktop13:12
ftahm.. still a long shot13:12
ftaboth apparently still have ~8% market share13:13
ftajdstrand_, hi, i used "Fix Committed" as it's committed in the packaging branch13:57
Dimmuxxmicahg++ :)14:45
erachrisccoulson, is there any hope for 438868 in maverick?15:34
era*bug 43886815:34
ubot2Launchpad bug 438868 in indicator-session (Ubuntu) (and 5 other projects) "Numerous applications have focus issues after emerging from a screensaver or suspend (affects: 124) (dups: 15) (heat: 617)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/43886815:34
chrisccoulsonera - we're only 4 days from final freeze, and nobody understands what the problem is15:38
chrisccoulsonso i don't think there's any chance for that15:38
Dimmuxxthat's one of the most annoying bugs in ubuntu15:43
erachrisccoulson, good candidate for a natty lite papercut?16:04
eraoh wait16:07
ftaBUGabundo, uhuh, my package just arrived in Paris16:35
BUGabundoon a Sunday?16:35
ftaof course, that won't be cleared today16:36
BUGabundoso deliver tomorrow ?16:37
ftastill planed for the 14th16:38
ftaamazon said at or before the 17th16:38
ftajdstrand_, was your test with the trailer in webm or flash?18:59
BUGabundofta will we get google instant in chromium?19:06
BUGabundoor flag only?19:06
ftawhat do you mean?19:08
BUGabundoyou know19:08
ftait works out of the box19:08
BUGabundogoogle instant search19:08
BUGabundoin omnibar19:08
ftaoh, is there such a thing?19:08
ftawell, you can add that to your /etc/chromium-browser/default file, but as it's limited to trunk (maybe -dev), it's not meant for stable yet19:15
BUGabundoI run trunk19:16
BUGabundoalways do19:16
BUGabundonot stable is my food19:16
BUGabundoits so unstable that replying to mails in gmail crashes it right now19:16
ftathe only crash i'm aware of is with the ubuntu font19:17
BUGabundoI'll log it and file , as I always do19:18
BUGabundofta what are this xul-ext packages?19:18
BUGabundo!info xul-ext-notify19:22
ubot2BUGabundo: xul-ext-notify (source: notify-extension): integrate Firefox download messages with desktop notifications. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.5.4-3ubuntu3 (lucid), package size 8 kB, installed size 136 kB19:22
BUGabundothis ones19:22
ftano idea what that is19:32
ftaoh, there's a remake of nikita19:37
BUGabundothere had to be a french bloke happy about that19:39
* BUGabundo hides19:39
ftathe movie was great, they did two remakes, so there has to be a reason19:46
dupondjecan we fix this ?19:49
ubot2dupondje: Error: Bug #466228 is private.19:49
dupondjeThis report is public edit19:50
chrisccoulsondupondje, that's up to jdstrand_19:58
micahgdupondje: no one should be using 64 bit flash anymore, I'd suggest trying w/32 bit19:58
chrisccoulsoni think the issue is with installing the flash plugin from the adobe site in to the profile, rather than being specifically a 64-bit issue19:59
dupondjemicahg: its same issue with 32bit flash19:59
chrisccoulsonbut it's not for me to decide whether we want to support that method of install20:00
dupondjeii  flashplugin-installer                                                  Adobe Flash Player plugin installer20:00
dupondjethis is what I have atm20:00
dupondjeso :)20:00
dupondjeand I get: [ 6032.271165] type=1400 audit(1284316978.362:25): apparmor="DENIED" operation="exec" parent=3136 profile="/usr/lib/firefox-3.6.9/firefox-*bin" name="/usr/bin/lpstat" pid=3137 comm="sh" requested_mask="x" denied_mask="x" fsuid=1000 ouid=020:00
micahgdupondje: and you don't have another one in your profile, right?20:00
dupondjeit uses the one from flashplugin :p20:02
dupondjeI see it because it randomly crashes :x20:02
micahgdupondje: you might want to update the bug with your current information, that might move it alonf20:03
dupondjei'll do20:03
dupondjewould be nice to fix it, its quite straight forward20:03
dupondjeand easy to fix20:03
dupondjeadded :)20:04
micahgdupondje: is it a specific site?  flash can do weird things sometimes20:05
ftalp is really unusable today, i give up20:06
dupondjemicahg: nope, all flash printing20:06
dupondjeit shows a empty printer list ..20:06
dupondjequite logic when it forbids access to lpstat :)20:07
micahgdupondje: yep, ok, well he'll see it tomorrow, so maybe they're will be an update20:07
micahgdupondje: which release are you on also?20:07
* micahg adds a firefox task20:08
Dimmuxxmicahg: will the beta ppa be updated with only official builds or will it get b6build1 etc?20:11
micahgDimmuxx: whatever the final beta 6 build is, I'll push, I'm a little limited on time right now20:12
Dimmuxxokay so it might change in the future then?20:12
micahgDimmuxx: are you asking if you'll get updates to the PPA?20:13
Dimmuxxno I'm asking about the rc builds of alphas/betas/rc/finals20:13
micahgDimmuxx: yes, I'll push the rc builds as they are released20:14
micahgDimmuxx: final will hopefully go in firefox-stable20:14
Dimmuxxthat's not what I meant20:14
micahgDimmuxx: no, that's not what I meant20:14
Dimmuxxthose are rcs of b420:14
micahgDimmuxx: no, I meant RC as in final release candidates :)20:15
Dimmuxxyeah exactly and that's not what I was talking about ;)20:15
micahgDimmuxx: there was only 1 for beta 5420:16
micahgbeta 520:16
micahgDimmuxx: it really depends on how much time I have20:16
micahgDimmuxx: I'm only committing to the final beta/rc builds20:16
Dimmuxxmicahg: okay, that's why I asked if it might change in the future in case you get more time.20:17
micahgchrisccoulson: I need to fix the apport hook, the question is, I need to ship a file in /etc/apport/crashdb.conf.d, so how should I do this?20:17
micahgDimmuxx: well, that's a toss up, I'd probably push for the devel release, not the stable ones20:18
Dimmuxxdevel as in rc builds so b6 might get build1, 2, 3... in case they are done?20:19
micahgDimmuxx: devel as in Maverick/natty :)20:19
micahgnot all beta testers are equal20:20
Dimmuxxso maverick/natty might get rc1/build1 of b6 but not lucid and older?20:22
chrisccoulsonmicahg - you can just drop a new file in debian/apport and add it to the install file can't you?20:23
chrisccoulsonfta - i'm having LP issues as well, the pages never finish loading20:24
micahgchrisccoulson: yes, but I need it on multiple branches that are installable at the same time20:24
micahgand it only needs to be in the PPAs20:24
micahgI was thinking of adding it to a separate package as a recommends with a replaces on older version and a binary version equals20:25
chrisccoulsonmicahg - just use the source package name for the filename (like i do for the apport blacklist file)20:25
chrisccoulsonor is it a different issue with that file?20:25
micahgchrisccoulson: yes, since this just lists our PPA bug project as a valid project for apport20:25
micahgand only needs to be done once for all installed packages20:25
chrisccoulsoni'm not sure of the best way to handle that20:26
ftachrisccoulson, yeah, i moved to my new project instead, s*w lp20:26
micahgwow ff40 beta 5 is totally useless for me :-/20:45
micahgoh, had the wrong profile :)20:46
* micahg tries again20:46
chrisccoulsonmicahg - what happened?20:53
chrisccoulsoni'm using the dailies here as my main browser ;)20:53
chrisccoulsoni see we have jaegermonkey now20:53
micahgchrisccoulson: my addons don't work still and I seem to have an SSL issue w/the beta, I don't have time to debug ATM20:55
chrisccoulsonmicahg - i was thinking about dropping the symlink to /usr/lib/firefox-addons from the FF4.0 branch20:56
chrisccoulsoni think we should have a dedicated /usr/lib/firefox-4.0-addons, and just use those folders for shipping version-dependant addons20:56
chrisccoulson(such as language packs)20:57
chrisccoulsoni'd like to able to localise the development versions in the future, to get more people interested in testing them20:57
micahgchrisccoulson: makes sense21:03
micahgchrisccoulson: there were 3 new languages added the TB3.1, so I was going to prepare a thunderbird-locales update21:03
chrisccoulsoncool, thanks21:04
micahgchrisccoulson: I think we can sync gnash, any objections?  I can try the test build and request a sync21:15
chrisccoulsonmicahg - i've not looked at what's in debian, but i trust your judgement anyway21:57
chrisccoulsonif you think we can sync it, then just open a bug for it :)21:57
micahgchrisccoulson: k, we don't seem to be carrying any major changes21:57
micahgor any changes at all :)21:57
micahgand it's good \o/21:57
chrisccoulsonexcellent, thanks21:57
porter1Has anyone else experienced slowdowns in firefox-4.0 when using wolframalpha.com on the results page? Earlier builds didn't seem to have this issue. Firefox is fine as long as the page isn't actually drawn to the screen, like switching to another tab.21:58
chrisccoulsonthe page seems to work here, what graphics driver do you use?22:00
chrisccoulsonmicahg - i had a quick chat online with dpm about language packs a few days ago22:01
chrisccoulsonwe'll talk some more at UDS, but i think we'll unify the way we handle mozilla translations22:01
chrisccoulsonbut we don't know which way to go yet ;)22:01
micahgchrisccoulson: ah, ok, in the mean time, I'll still update tb-locales :)22:02
chrisccoulsonit will either end up in us handling firefox like we handle thunderbird, or getting thunderbird translations in to launchpad22:02
porter1chrisccoulson, I'm using the nvidia proprietary which could easily be the problem since I'm running it in 10.10 for testing.22:02
chrisccoulsonporter1, possibly. i use intel on my work machine, and i don't get those issues22:03
micahgporter1: we've had nvidia issues since 3.6, I haven't been able to track it down yet22:03
* micahg doesn't have an nvidia test machine22:04
chrisccoulsondoes it happen with nouveau? :)22:04
chrisccoulson(although i've not tried that driver yet on my nvidia desktop)22:04
chrisccoulsoni suppose i should give it a go when i get some time22:05
micahgchrisccoulson: bad news, just tested gnash and it doesn't seem to work :(23:38
chrisccoulsonhmmm, that's not good23:38
chrisccoulsonwhat happens?23:38
chrisccoulsonyou just installed the debian package right? or did you rebuilt it first?23:39
micahgchrisccoulson: rebuilt :)23:39
chrisccoulsoni can try it in the morning, but i don't intend to do much tonight :)23:40
micahgI can look at the deps to see if we have any major differences later23:40
micahglater tonight I have to prepare the gjs/gnome-shell update for lucid23:40
micahgchrisccoulson: oh, on top of it, we need to tweak the apparmor profile to allow it as well23:41
micahgthat should probably go in the new abstraction in the apparmor package, I'll have to file a bug later23:42
* micahg also just saw 1 difference between the Debian package and ours, we suggest ubufox23:47
micahgchrisccoulson: weird, it works with ubufox and flash disabled23:53

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