[00:48] <chewbranca> how can I install lucid server with no gui?
[00:51] <lifeless> grab the server install cd and install from it
[00:57] <chewbranca> bah... used the wrong iso to mount on the thumbdrive :/
[00:58] <chewbranca> ahhhh... I see what happened now, when you add a new iso to usb-creator-gtk it doesn't automatically select it
[01:02] <chewbranca> ahhhhh much better, thought it was a little weird I had to keyboard tab through the mouse based install process
[01:10] <[R]> how do i make upstart's output on tty1 instead of tty7?
[01:17] <marc__> anyone here having experience with ubuntu on Amazon EC2?
[01:25] <tucemiux> How do I update packages??? -->19 packages can be updated
[01:27] <tucemiux> nevermind, I figured it out
[01:43] <chewbranca> marc__, do NOT run 10.04 on EC2 if you're going to use EBS
[01:43] <chewbranca> use 9.10
[01:43] <chewbranca> 100%
[01:44] <marc__> chewbranca, why?
[01:44] <chewbranca> with 10.04 there is a serious bug that sky rockets load averages
[01:45] <chewbranca> I've got 2 boxes running in production with on EC2 with EBS and both are sitting at a load average above 10 with 99% idle cpu
[01:45] <marc__> chewbranca, I see... even with the AMI launched last month?
[01:45] <chewbranca> absolutely stay away from this until its fixed
[01:45] <chewbranca> the bug still hasn't been resolved
[01:45] <[R]> chewbranca: do you have a #?
[01:45] <chewbranca> https://bugs.launchpad.net/pantheon/+bug/574910
[01:46] <chewbranca> I posted on it back until july
[01:47] <marc__> chewbranca, maybe you can answer a question I have... I was following this guide  http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect-server-ubuntu-10.04-lucid-lynx-ispconfig-3-p3  and there's a part about edition the file  /etc/network/interfaces  to setup static IP... Is it also required on EC2 ?
[01:47] <chewbranca> marc__, this only appears to be affecting EBS instances, so if you're planning on running EBS (which you probably want to because its very nice) then stay on 9.10
[01:48] <chewbranca> no you don't need to set the ip address with EC2, amazon handles elastic ip addresses for you, so you can actually have a static public facing ip address and move that around internally to whatever instance you move to
[01:49] <chewbranca> $ uptime 00:49:22 up 65 days,  1:11,  1 user,  load average: 14.61, 14.86, 14.24
[01:49] <chewbranca> that's rather annoying
[01:49] <chewbranca> live production server
[01:50] <chewbranca> 97.7% idle
[01:52] <marc__> thanks for the info chewbranca
[01:54] <chewbranca> marc__, no problem, 9.10 is solid and still new enough to run most of what you want, so I would run with that, 10.04 on the other hand I've had multiple issues with
[01:55] <marc__> chewbranca, if I check the info using "top" it tells me load average of 1.43
[01:56] <chewbranca> marc__, load average on what?
[01:57] <marc__> ubuntu 10.04 ebs on ec2
[01:57] <marc__> using ami 099720109477/ebs/ubuntu-images/ubuntu-lucid-10.04-i386-server-20100827
[01:58] <chewbranca> and that load average is at complete idle right?
[01:58] <chewbranca> give it a minute or two
[01:58] <marc__> yes
[01:59] <chewbranca> fyi, I'm doing a new install locally on a server here, after a few minutes the load average is 0.02
[01:59] <chewbranca> versus 1.43
[01:59] <chewbranca> read that bug link I posted, that's the exact issue
[01:59] <chewbranca> don't use that 10.04 ami
[02:02]  * Psi-Jack is back. Be afraid. Be very afraid. :)
[02:03] <marc__> dunno... I used that ami, then installed lamp package and ispconfig3:     top - 01:02:43 up  5:30,  1 user,  load average: 1.63, 1.56, 1.48 ... but then again I'm a noob with linux servers :P
[02:03] <chewbranca> marc__, my current load is 0.00
[02:03] <chewbranca> that's what it should be on a new install
[02:03] <chewbranca> your's is 1.63
[02:04] <chewbranca> read that bug thread, its not good, you're running into the EXACT issue I am talking about, don't use it until its fixed
[02:04] <chewbranca> grab 9.10 and use that
[02:04] <marc__> ok, thanks, then I'll go try with 9.10
[02:05] <chewbranca> marc__, no problem
[02:06] <marc__> chewbranca, can you have a look at http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect-server-ubuntu-9.10-ispconfig-3 ?  do you think that it's a good guide to setup a web server?
[02:08] <MTecknology> chewbranca: probably not.. howtoforge and 'best' usually fall far aprt
[02:09] <MTecknology> it usually covers hacks that people have accepted as a good way to do things - in my experience
[02:09] <MTecknology> marc__: **
[02:09] <MTecknology> marc__: http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/
[02:12] <marc__> MTecknology, thanks.
[02:16] <marc__> I've read that it was not recommended to send email from an ec2 instance as it might be considered as spam (something about reverse dns), do you know if the elastic ip fixes that problem?
[02:16] <marc__> chewbranca, ^^
[02:17] <ph8> hmmm
[02:17] <ph8> my mysql doesn't star
[02:17] <ph8> * start
[02:17] <ph8> i'm struggling to find the caus
[02:18] <ph8> this is post hardy->lucid upgrade
[02:27] <chewbranca> marc__, I'm hesitant to trust anything described as 'perfect', but if you're just trying to get a lamp stack going most tutorials will be fine, just need to get apache/mysql/php installed, and that's fairly straightforward with ubuntu
[02:28] <chewbranca> marc__, the serverguide MTecknology linked looks like it covers everything you would want to do
[02:29] <marc__> chewbranca, yeah, I'm reading it right now, but his link was for 10.04, but I found the doc for 9.10
[02:29] <chewbranca> I'm not familiar with issues related to sending email from EC2, I've been sending emails through gmail hosted domain email without any issues
[02:30] <chewbranca> marc__, oh ok cool
[02:30] <chewbranca> also, for email, you can't go wrong with http://www.mailchimp.com/
[02:30] <chewbranca> free outgoing emails up to 3000 a month
[02:31] <marc__> chewbranca, I want a lamp stack that I'll use for development, but I would like to be able to make a production after so I'm trying to find good example :)
[02:32] <ScottK> marc__: Lots of spam is sent from EC2 IP space so it's not unusual for receivers to treat it suspiciously.
[02:32] <chewbranca> marc__, I highly recommend reading that server guide (or the 9.10 version), its a worth while investment of your time and in the long run is better than just following a tutorial
[02:32] <marc__> chewbranca, if I want to setup a webmail on my ec2 server, I can use mailchimp to forward sent messages?
[02:34] <chewbranca> marc__, mailchimp handles sending out newsletter emails and what not, not sure what you mean by 'forward sent messages'
[02:38] <marc__> chewbranca, well, maybe I didn't understand correctly...   I want to create a ec2 instance that will be used for development, but I want to use my domain (already using dnsmadeeasy.com to forward my domain to the elastic IP I got). on that instance I want to setup a mail server (pop/imap)... I want to move my email out of my shared hosting account... once I do that, if I send an email to someone, I don't want it to be conside
[02:38] <marc__> red as spam.
[02:39] <marc__> so I thought that I needed to forward all emails sent from my ec2 instance to another trusted service?
[02:39] <chewbranca> yeah I hear you, I'm just saying I'm not familiar with the issues surrounding EC2 based email as I haven't run into them, as ScottK pointed out, lots of spam shows up from EC2 so its definitely possible it could be considered spam
[02:40] <chewbranca> honestly, if you're not doing a huge amount of outgoing emails, just use google's hosted email service, not even worth your time to manage email when google does a great job of it for free
[02:40] <chewbranca> then all your email will be coming from google's servers, and its not even an issue
[02:45] <marc__> chewbranca, hmmm, yeah, good idea... up to 50 email address
[02:49] <marc__> chewbranca, thank you very much, you've been a great help for me tonight :D
[02:50] <Psi-Jack> Heh
[02:50] <Psi-Jack> Google Mail... Yeaah. when you run servers and such that send email of their own, google mail is bad.
[02:50] <Psi-Jack> Trust me.
[02:50] <Psi-Jack> It's Bad. ;p
[02:53] <marc__> Psi-Jack, why?
[02:54] <marc__> Psi-Jack, I want my server to send me email on certain events  (web app logging)
[03:57] <Psi-Jack> marc__, Why? Heh. Because your origin endpoint isn't google-apps.
[03:57] <Psi-Jack> marc__, So not only do you have to STILL use your SMTP servers your own self, but you have to make sure it accepts mail and delievrs it to the proper gmail servers as well.
[04:04] <marc__> Psi-Jack, I guess that would work:  http://serverfault.com/questions/54069/how-to-setup-ubuntu-mail-server-with-google-apps
[04:06] <Psi-Jack> marc__, That's only about 25% of what you need.
[04:19] <ruben23> guys i have ubuntu server version 10 but i want to install a lower package version of php please help me...its been weeks figuring it out.
[04:37] <ruben23> guys any idea and help please
[04:44] <au> ruben23: no idea :/
[04:44] <au> ruben23: http://www.google.com.au/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=php+5.2+on+ubuntu+lucid
[04:51] <ruben23> how do i cehck what version of ubuntu server i have..?
[04:52] <lifeless> lsb_release -a
[05:00] <blackmatter> is there any way to transmit on submission port with postfix?
[05:49] <aarcane> so I'm running ubuntu server, how do I find the funky text name of my release ?
[05:51] <blackmatter> arcane
[05:51] <blackmatter> cat /etc/issue
[05:56] <aarcane> /etc/issue has the numerical release, Ubuntu 10.04.1 LTS \n \
[05:56] <aarcane> but not the named release
[05:56] <blackmatter> lsb-release
[05:56] <blackmatter> if lsb not present then idk
[05:57] <aarcane> it's tucked at the bottom of lsb_release -a
[05:58] <blackmatter> ye
[05:58] <blackmatter> u can uname -a
[05:58] <blackmatter> as well
[05:58] <blackmatter> forgot to mention XD
[06:09] <JasonMSP> im installing postfix and need to telnet to test it out.  telnet is installed but when I type telnet localhost 25 i get  -bash: telnet: command not found
[06:10] <blackmatter> jason
[06:10] <blackmatter> on /etc/postfix/master.cf do u have smtp as chroot?
[06:12] <JasonMSP> its got a dash (-)
[06:12] <blackmatter> hmm
[06:13] <blackmatter> try telnet 127.0.0.1 smtp
[06:13] <JasonMSP> thats not going to work because telnet command is not even found.
[06:13] <JasonMSP> telnet is installed though.
[06:13] <blackmatter> lol
[06:14] <blackmatter> sudo apt-get install putty
[06:14] <blackmatter> putty 127.0.0.1 smtp
[06:15] <JasonMSP> im ssh into my server from the house
[06:15] <blackmatter> hmm
[06:15] <blackmatter> plz cat /etc/postfix/main.cf
[06:17] <JasonMSP> ok and?
[06:17] <blackmatter> pm me that
[06:18] <JasonMSP> telnet is my problem.  not postfix though
[06:19] <blackmatter> ic
[06:19] <blackmatter> u can remove completely then reinstall
[06:19] <blackmatter> if that wont work download putty
[08:10] <JasonMSP> apt-get install libmd5-perl comes up "Couldn't find package libmd5-perl"  ?????
[08:12] <au> apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[08:12] <au> then do it
[08:13] <au> also, I checked in ubuntu 10.04 lts, dosen't exist.
[08:14] <JasonMSP> hmm...  thats what im running
[08:18] <au> apt-cache search perl | grep 'md5'
[08:18] <au> libcrypt-passwdmd5-perl - interoperable MD5-based crypt() for perl
[08:18] <au> libdigest-md5-file-perl - Perl extension for getting MD5 sums for files and urls
[08:20] <JasonMSP> same
[08:20] <JasonMSP> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenWebMail  - im doing this
[08:21] <JasonMSP> sudo dpkg -i owm2.53-2.deb is failing
[08:21] <JasonMSP> dpkg: error processing owm2.53-2.deb (--install):
[08:21] <JasonMSP>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[08:21] <JasonMSP> Errors were encountered while processing:
[08:21] <JasonMSP>  owm2.53-2.deb
[08:26] <JasonMSP> nvm that last
[08:32] <joschi> JasonMSP: why don't you just install squirrelmail or roundcube webmail?
[08:32] <joschi> JasonMSP: there are *working* packages for them for ubuntu, in contrast to openwebmail
[08:39] <JasonMSP> just got it working.
[09:18] <ph8> morning all, does anyone know a little about mdadm? When I boot I get /dev/md0 could not be configured, it drops to busybox. If I use the mdadm binary in busybox to reassemble my arrays manually (by uuid) and then simply exit, it works. So the array is fine it's just an issue with the boot process. While i'm in busybox, if I look at /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf it's got all the directives twice, in two identical blocks. This isn't the mdadm.conf that i have on
[09:18] <ph8>  my machine so i'm guessing it's auto generated - does anyone know how i influence this auto generation process and get it fixed? I think this is what's stopping the boot. Running Lucid
[09:18] <ph8> maybe worth copying to the forums :)
[09:22] <simplexio> ph8: hmm
[09:23] <ph8> it is a puzzler
[09:23] <ph8> i'm guessing that's how mdadm works with 'automatic detection' on boot
[09:24] <ph8> ah it would appear i can modify my initrd
[09:24] <ph8> and repack
[09:24] <ph8> but what happens when i upgrade?? :-s
[09:24] <simplexio> my best quess is that mdadmd dosnt have anough time to figure what device belongs to which array
[09:26] <simplexio> ph8: what fdisk says about your partitions ?, mine says linux raid autodetect
[09:26] <ph8> yes mine are autodetect
[09:26] <ph8> well it knows the uuid's
[09:27] <ph8> so they're in the boot time mdadm.conf somehow
[09:27] <ph8> in fact maybe i just need to do an update-initramfs
[09:27] <ph8> after modifying my own mdadm.conf
[09:27] <ph8> and it packages it then
[09:28] <simplexio> i have 2 raid1 and one 4disk raid5 set, usually raid1 come online without problem, but raid5 usually just finds one disk and i have to mdadm --assemble --scan
[09:28] <ph8> mine is raid1
[09:28] <ph8> :o what does scan do
[09:29] <ph8> should i be able to do that to fix the issue rather than mounting each device manually by uuid?
[09:29] <ph8> hmm looks like that initramfs hasn't fixed it
[09:29] <ph8> oh wait i'm lying
[09:29] <ph8> that's got it
[09:29] <ph8> hurray!
[09:29] <ph8> so the mdadm in initramfs was bad
[09:29] <ph8> i had altered the one in /etc on my system but hadn't run update-initramfs
[09:30] <simplexio> ph8: --assemble --scan scan all disk and figures whihc goes to own raid array
[09:30] <simplexio> even if you dont have mdadm.conf
[09:31] <ph8> clever
[09:31] <simplexio> one solution to your problem is define all devices in mdadm.conf
[10:15] <ghaleb> hello, I've compiled PAM from source code and now I'm not able to log into the system, I got the source code from apt-src install pam. I have a preconnected session I can work with, any help ?
[10:26] <denysonique_lubu> hi
[10:26] <denysonique_lubu> is there a complete solution to control everything via a gui?
[10:26] <denysonique_lubu> e.g. a mail server, firewall, etc
[10:27] <joschi> denysonique_lubu: webmin
[10:27] <joschi> denysonique_lubu: maybe ebox
[10:30] <denysonique_lubu> joschi, is there a way to setup everything without actually touching the cli?
[10:39] <joschi> denysonique_lubu: yes. pay someone to do it for you ;)
[10:40] <denysonique_lubu> jo-erlend, to be honest I am not a fan of gui's but I would like to try something like that just once
[10:40] <denysonique_lubu> for fun
[10:43] <jo-erlend> joschi, hey! You stole my nick! :)
[10:50] <jo-erlend> denysonique_lubu, there is nothing preventing you from running all the services on Ubuntu desktop. If it's a headless server, you can still use ubuntu desktop with a terminal server solution, like x2go or freenx.
[10:51] <yann2> jo-erlend, yes you can, but when XDMCP was supported in GDM, you could even use freenx on another server to connect to a server without freenx installed :)
[10:51] <jo-erlend> yann2, right. I thought the removal of xdmcp was just a temporary thing?
[10:52] <yann2> not as far as I know
[10:52] <jo-erlend> that was a great feature for me. I really miss it.
[10:53] <yann2> so do I
[10:53] <yann2> you might replace gdm with something else though, but havent tried it yet
[10:54] <jo-erlend> yes, but then I could just as easily install x2go or freenx... :)
[10:54] <yann2> been using 8.4s, and xdmcp was broken in KDM back then, not sure about now
[10:54] <denysonique_lubu> jo-erlend, I just fired up lubuntu now and I     have a feeling to try some server apps via gui
[10:54] <yann2> well I use Nomachine NX to "tunnel" to other servers via xdmxp
[10:55] <jo-erlend> denysonique_lubu, cool.
[10:56] <denysonique_lubu> jo-erlend, 'If it's a headless server, you can still use ubuntu desktop with a terminal server solution, like x2go or freenx' If it is headless there is no X so I can't run freenx or anything like that
[10:56] <denysonique_lubu> etc
[10:56] <jo-erlend> denysonique_lubu, why is there no x on a headless server? I have that on most of mine.
[10:57] <yann2> I thought headless meant "without X server" :)
[10:57] <denysonique_lubu> jo-erlend, well if it is headless why should I install X on it? ;p
[10:57] <jo-erlend> denysonique_lubu, because you have ssh?
[10:57] <denysonique_lubu> jo-erlend, are you talking about xforwarding?
[10:57] <jo-erlend> yann2, I thought headless meant a server without a screen.
[10:58] <jo-erlend> denysonique_lubu, well. Sort of. Pure x forwarding is way too slow to be of any practical use, but freenx and x2go is much faster and does much more.
[10:58] <yann2> right  - my english isnt perfect, sorry :)
[10:58] <denysonique_lubu> anyway headless == no X
[10:59] <denysonique_lubu> hmm I think I will give ebox a try
[10:59] <jo-erlend> denysonique_lubu, I don't understand that. Headless usually means no monitor, not no x.
[10:59] <jo-erlend> but yes, ebox is nice.
[11:01] <jo-erlend> yann2, have you tried spice yet? Seems awesome, but I haven't figured out how to install it on Ubuntu yet. Only Fedora. :(
[11:02] <yann2> not yet now - is in the latest kvm though, really looking forward to it
[11:02] <yann2> if you manage to install it on a server then I have interest yes :)
[11:02] <jo-erlend> the whole point is to install it on a server. :)
[11:02] <yann2> have nomachine tunnel to NX would be nice too
[11:03] <denysonique_lubu> jo-erlend, spice?
[11:04] <jo-erlend> denysonique_lubu, it's a pc-over-ip solution that's perfect for kvm. I've been longing to move my desktop into a data center for many years.
[11:07] <denysonique_lubu> jo-erlend, just build it from source ;p
[11:07] <denysonique_lubu> jo-erlend, its bad it is propriatary
[11:07] <jo-erlend> it isn't. Why do you say that?
[11:07] <denysonique_lubu> jo-erlend, better just set up xen
[11:07] <denysonique_lubu> jo-erlend, is it free software?
[11:07] <jo-erlend> of course.
[11:08] <denysonique_lubu> jo-erlend, btw show me a link to that spice
[11:09] <jo-erlend> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SPICE_%28protocol%29
[11:11] <denysonique_lubu> jo-erlend, you are right
[11:11] <denysonique_lubu> btw this is spice not pcoip
[11:11] <denysonique_lubu> i thought spice was a client to pcoip
[11:11] <denysonique_lubu> etc
[11:11] <denysonique_lubu> jo-erlend, you can't install on ubuntu?
[11:12] <jo-erlend> well, there is no packages yet. You could always compile it yourself, but I suspect it's fairly complicated. Anyway, I've had other things to do. :)
[11:14] <ghaleb> hello, I've compiled PAM from source code and now I'm not able to log into the system, I got the source code from apt-src install pam. I have a preconnected session I can work with, any help ?
[11:16] <joschi> ghaleb: why did you do that?
[11:17] <ghaleb> joschi: I read a tutorial to wright a PAM module
[11:17] <ghaleb> but by mistake a compiled the entire PAM modules
[11:17] <joschi> ghaleb: since you still have an open shell just reinstall pam
[11:18] <ghaleb> joschi: through apt ?
[11:18] <joschi> ghaleb: yes
[11:18] <ghaleb> but the modules in /lib/security are exists
[11:20] <ghaleb> joschi: when I type sudo su, it gives me sorry try again three times without even letting me enter password
[11:21] <joschi> ghaleb: in this case you'll need to boot from a linux live cd/dvd/usbstick and fix your system from there
[11:22] <denysonique_lubu> jo-erlend, no its not, it usually is ./configure && make && make install
[11:22] <denysonique_lubu> etc
[11:23] <jo-erlend> we really are different people. .)
[11:23] <denysonique_lubu> jo-erlend, lol, in terms of what?
[11:23] <denysonique_lubu> etc
[11:24] <jo-erlend> joschi is not me.
[11:24] <ghaleb> joschi: yep, but I still have a way to the system
[11:24] <ghaleb> joschi: a preconnected session with root access
[11:25] <joschi> ghaleb: well, then reinstall pam through it
[11:25] <ghaleb> I'm looking for PAM in apt repo, do I have to apt-get all libpam packages ?
[11:29] <joschi> ghaleb: just the ones already installed: `dpkg -l 'libpam*'`
[11:48] <ghaleb> joschi: it's not working :(
[11:48] <ghaleb> I reconfigured dpkg-reconfigure libpam0g
[11:53] <joschi> ghaleb: if you really reinstalled (`aptitude reinstall`, `apt-get install --reinstall`) all the pam libraries and pam was the only thing you broke, it should work
[11:59] <ghaleb_> joschi: even though, it's not working. There is something happened, I can't do anything related to pam, even setting new password for users
[12:01] <joschi> ghaleb_: what's in your logs?
[12:01] <ghaleb_> permission denied
[12:02] <ghaleb_> I'm afraid to reboot
[12:03] <ghaleb_> maybe I'm reconfiguring a wong package
[12:03] <ghaleb_> reinstalling
[12:14] <ghaleb_> joschi: YEP IT WORKED!
[12:14] <ghaleb_> joschi: I reinstalled libpam0g
[12:14] <ghaleb_> I've been reinstalling libpam-modules
[12:14] <ghaleb_> thank you very much!
[12:16] <joschi> ghaleb_: you're welcome
[12:38] <ruben23> hi guys how do i check disk space particular on my / directory...
[12:38] <simplexio> ruben23: df -h
[13:02] <RoyK> ..--..
[13:03] <ecelis> RoyK: ask your question
[13:04] <ecelis> oh! sorry, I confused that with an s.o.s
[13:09] <ruben23> guys how do i uninstall a source install without mke uninstall script..?
[14:00] <Crankygeek> Hello,
[14:00] <ghaleb_> guys, I have a problem installing pam from the source code, I compile and make install but then the system doesn't accept login nor sets passwords, any help ?
[14:01] <au> try the mailing list ghaleb_
[14:01] <Crankygeek> I am running a Ubuntu 10.4.1 server installation, I would like to install and run a Teamspeak server. Does anyone know what the file name is for teamspeak version 3 and is it available through the repositories?
[14:02] <ghaleb_> au: which mailing list, is there a pam mailing or ubuntu-server mailing list ?
[14:02] <au> ubuntu server
[14:03] <ghaleb_> thanks
[14:04] <\sh> Crankygeek, apt-get install teamspeak-server
[14:04] <ghaleb_> anybody knows how to verbose the log more to see what happens at syslog ?
[14:04] <\sh> Crankygeek, apt-cache search teamspeak would have helped you
[14:05] <\sh> Crankygeek, oh and version 3 is not in the repositories...I would go then with the upstream version...and then you are out of support on ubuntu
[14:07] <au> hehe ghaleb_ :) *above*
[14:09] <ghaleb_> au: I see openldap bug
[14:15] <gathraigin> hi all, does anyone have an idea, why I get an "postconf: fatal: open /etc/postfix/main.cf: No such file or directory" error when I restart networking?
[14:18] <\sh> gathraigin, is /etc/postfix/main.cf available or is it really missing?
[14:19] <gathraigin> is really missing, ther is only a master.cf
[14:20] <\sh> gathraigin, there you have your problem...apt-get install --reinstall postfix eventually fix the problem
[14:20] <\sh> gathraigin, if not, you have to recreate main.cf manually
[14:21] <gathraigin> ok, I try that... it is a little bit unfortunate because I do not want postfix, but it was installed when I installed ubuntu-vm-builder...
[14:22] <\sh> gathraigin, no it's installed because some dep of ubuntu-vm-build needs "default-mta"
[14:23] <gathraigin> ah ok... I have a lot to learn ;) thanks
[14:24] <\sh> gathraigin, if you do an apt-cache search mail-transport-agent you'll find some replacements for postfix
[14:27] <gathraigin> hm, is postfix not a good choice as mta? or is there a better one with a smaller footprint?
[14:29] <\sh> gathraigin, ssmtp is a mta replacement with a small footprint..but it depends on you what you want to do ... if you need a good mta...use the ubuntu default aka postfix
[14:29] <gathraigin> ok, I found the problem with main.cf
[14:31] <gathraigin> ah all right, I will research ssmtp and postfix to see which will suit my needs better... thank you \sh
[14:57] <marc__> anyone know if I have to edit the hosts file in an EC2 instance?
[16:04] <dv_> hello.
[16:04] <dv_> is there any reason why ubuntu server doesnt automatically install acpid in the installation=?
[16:04] <dv_> i mean, I have to install it manually afterwards
[16:15] <joschi> dv_: same reason why apache httpd is not preinstalled or vim or Postfix: because it's no core package which would be needed by every user
[16:21] <dv_> but *acpid*?
[16:21] <dv_> this is such a basic package
[16:22] <joschi> why?
[16:22] <joschi> dv_: I don't use acpid on *any* of my servers
[16:24] <padhu> anybody dive me a link for Drupal startup guide
[16:43] <sailerboy> does anyone have a recomendation for a lightweight ftp client?
[16:43] <sailerboy> i tried vsftp, but half the time i cant connect
[16:50] <joschi> sailerboy: vsftpd is a ftp server
[16:51] <joschi> sailerboy: try lftp or ncftp if you want a good CLI ftp client
[16:51] <sailerboy> erm
[16:51] <sailerboy> i meant ftp server
[16:51] <sailerboy> sorry
[16:53] <joschi> vsftpd is a good lightweight ftp server
[16:54] <joschi> sailerboy: and I doubt that your connection errors are caused by it ;)
[16:55] <sailerboy> most of the connections just time out
[16:55] <sailerboy> i'll try purging and reinstalling
[17:04] <yann2> is it possible to create preallocated images using vmbuilder? I/o are horrible as long as the size of the disk images grows
[17:07] <\sh> yann2, you should be able too
[17:07] <\sh> s/too/to/
[17:41] <yann2> \sh, cant find the appropriate argument
[19:50] <blackmatter> quick question, what is xshm?
[20:00] <nakhlawi> !xshm
[20:01] <nakhlawi> http://linux.die.net/man/3/xshm
[20:03] <blackmatter> with a php rfi it can work with the known php_include() from the msf framework?
[20:04] <blackmatter> ok now i got it... cheers nahlawi
[20:04] <nakhlawi> blackmatter: I can't help. Maybe someone else in this room can?
[20:04] <nakhlawi> blackmatter: no problem.
[21:11] <amstan> hey guys, you know in htop
[21:11] <amstan> on the cpu meter, there's a red bar, for some reason it stays at 100%
[21:11] <amstan> apparently that's kernel usage
[21:12] <amstan> what could cause that?
[21:34] <jpds> amstan: iowait?
[22:21] <arrrghhh> figured i'd ask here too... is it possible to use the pxe boot server on my ubuntu server to image windows machines?  I got it to drop ubuntu images on workstations...
[22:33] <qman__> theoretically, but IME the windows installer is too smart/stupid for that, you'd have to disk image for sure
[22:35] <holstein> hello
[22:35] <holstein> is this bad?
[22:35] <holstein>  System information disabled due to load higher than 1
[22:37] <qman__> could be
[22:37] <qman__> if you are running a single core/single CPU system and your load is consistently higher than 1, you're underpowered and should upgrade
[22:42] <hggdh> Daviey: just FYI, since your day starts much earlier than mine: 2.0+bzr1239 failed absolutely. See revision 55 on ~/+junk/uec-qa
[22:43] <hggdh> Daviey: also, bug 636101
[23:16] <aarcane> heya, so on my ubuntu server, my printers are shared via samba, so it works alright, except that after rebooting my system I have to restart smbd to make the printers show up
[23:17] <_Techie_> aarcane, im not sure what the others would recommend, but i would just bandage it up with a cron job
[23:18] <_Techie_> @reboot /etc/init.d/smbd restart
[23:19] <aarcane> hrrm, if noone else has any better ideas, I'll give that one a try.
[23:20] <aarcane> I think it may have to do with cups needing time to bring the printers live though, can cron handle @reboot + however many minutes somehow ?
[23:20] <_Techie_> yep
[23:20] <_Techie_> gimme a min to find what im after
[23:23] <_Techie_> gotta brave #ubuntu to find the command, because i cant remember it
[23:23] <holstein> qman__: i am on a single core box
[23:24] <holstein> but the percentage is low
[23:24] <holstein> CPU useage
[23:24] <holstein> in top
[23:24] <_Techie_> aarcane, got the command
[23:25] <_Techie_> add this to your crontab -e
[23:25] <_Techie_> @reboot sleep [seconds] && /etc/init.d/smbd restart
[23:26] <_Techie_> give it 30 seconds to be on the safe side
[23:26] <_Techie_> so @reboot sleep 30...
[23:27] <aarcane> I'm thinking @reboot; smbd start instead of restart, and only adding k20s to runlevels 0 1 6...  that way it won't be started twice.
[23:28] <_Techie_> aarcane, nah, issue restart that way any current PID is killed and if theres no current PID then its started anyway
[23:29] <_Techie_> also means you dont have to do more than you have to
[23:30] <aarcane> seems kinda wasteful to start it twice.
[23:30] <_Techie_> aarcane, it wont be started twice
[23:32] <_Techie_> on boot when smbd is launched it will creat a PID file, when the restart is issued, then the old process will be killed safely, and then started again... one smbd at a time, nie and clean
[23:32] <_Techie_> nice*
[23:33] <aarcane> yeah, but started->stopped->started, instead of started only once.
[23:34] <_Techie_> id rather have it start stop start instead of possibly screwing up all together
[23:40] <_Techie_> is there any disk cloning utility that i can control via a web panel, preferably AJAX