[00:00] alraune, ran it, what am i looking for? fans? [00:00] k thx yall [00:00] later [00:00] whats the notation to "allow" all addresses in range 192.168.1.x ? [00:00] xover: it should have found some modules, you first have to load [00:00] al__: we need some context... [00:00] alraune, it found the cpu and gpu, i have applet that shows my temps on the toolbar on my desktop [00:01] al__: : 192.168.1.0/24 [00:01] xover: also (for next reboot) they got to be in /etc/modules [00:01] jrib: its for a for a firewall [00:01] glebihan, cool, all finished. Now I just need to figure out how to run an 386 package on x64. idletask said something about linux32, but I get: [00:01] th0r: why 24? [00:01] Note, selecting util-linux instead of linux32 [00:01] util-linux is already the newest version. [00:01] al__: because you are only considering the first 24 bits of the 32 bit ip address [00:01] how to log in [00:02] kneaux: won't be able to help you there, running on i386 [00:02] xover: sudo modprobe NameOfModule to get them to the kernel, where NameOfModule is the name(s) sensors-detect found [00:02] i think i need to read up on bits and ip addresses.... [00:02] kneaux: the syntax is: linux32 your32bitbinaryhere [00:02] alraune, those modules have been there since june when i installed the OS [00:03] it just added the same module again [00:03] well, think I played enough for tonight, need some sleep now, have fun all ! [00:04] so what does 192.168.1.100/24 allow? [00:04] al__: the same thing [00:04] idletask: i don't have a command "linux32" [00:04] alraune:bye thanks very much [00:04] idletask, just kidding, i do. hold on [00:04] kneaux: that's strange, since it's part of util-linux [00:04] how can i get gdm working after lucid upgrade? [00:05] alraune, how can i tell at what temperature the fans will increase and to what rpm? [00:05] idletask, I'm getting "permission denied" [00:05] is 80 80 80 degrees bad? [00:05] th0r: is is somethign to do with the fact that each number in .xxx is a bit, and each bit is 8 bytes, thus 3 x 8 = 24? [00:05] fans are sat at 2000rpm [00:06] kneaux: does your 32bit binary have execute permissions? [00:06] al__: not quite...you do need to read up on bits and bytes [00:06] th0r: got the bits and bytes the wrong way around but you know what I mean [00:07] al__: yes, that is about it, the first three sets of 8 bits are processed, the fourth set of 8 is ignored [00:07] alraune, I have this is messages [00:07] ACPI: If an ACPI driver is available for this device, you should use it instead of the native driver [00:07] xover: as said, I have low experince with aplle; seems they got a SMC-Chip , and ubuntu has an applesmc-driver, but to be honest, I never worked with it [00:07] idletask, good point. one second... [00:07] winblows fail me again, going back on ubuntu! brb ;-) [00:07] th0r: so does that style of notation allow you to be more specific, lets say you just wanted to allow 192.168.1.1 - 192.168.100? [00:07] bobo123: i'm not 100%, but for ubuntu setup,I beleive you can create a file say /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/02custom , and put two lines 'APT::Install-Recommends "false";' and 'APT::Install-Suggests "false";' to make this the default behavior [00:08] that last set should be 192.168.1.100 [00:08] al__: no, that won't do it, there's no power of 2 range that would exactly cover 1 to 100 [00:08] * h-bomb wishes that xchat would be update on the repos [00:08] idletask, now i get: [00:08] sudo linux32 ~/Downloads/gnaural_1.0.20100707-1_i386.deb [00:08] /home/sgravn/Downloads/gnaural_1.0.20100707-1_i386.deb: 1: Syntax error: newline unexpected [00:08] You have to specify the range [00:08] why am I still in -unregged? [00:08] what does that even mean. [00:08] kneaux: oh, that's a deb file? [00:08] kneaux: and you can't install it? [00:08] idletask, yeah [00:09] Even with dpkg -i? [00:09] Hello all. I'm still struggling with a dual-boot installation on a laptop. I've freed a big chunk of space on the internal drive, but the installer says it's "unusable," and the utility I used to free the space won't initialise it - saying something about there being no slots in the MBR. i wonder if the fact that the installer previously overwrote the Win7 boot loader in the MBR with GRUB [00:09] has something to do with the problem. [00:09] make that "no free slots" - sorry [00:10] I just updated my ubuntu version, before which my ipod shuffle worked happily with it and i could even load music onto it, but now the green and amber lights just flash when i plug it in. [http://www.pcworld.com/article/126146/if_lights_blink_on_your_ipod_shuffle_it_could_be_bad_news.html] [00:10] Hi guys, I was wondering if anybody had a solution for getting hibernate in 10.04 working with the nvidia drivers. [00:10] The first page of google was not helpful. [00:10] it plays on its own tho. Could anyone help me with this? [00:10] * idletask avoids proprietary drivers like the plague they are [00:10] In fact, hibernate does not work for me even with the free nv driver. [00:11] drewbert: the nv driver never has had proper power management, use nouveau [00:11] nouveau _has_ PM support [00:11] Using the main menu hibernate, s2disk, or hibernate-disk. None of them work. [00:11] alright [00:11] I'll try novoue [00:11] nouvoeuasdf [00:11] drewbert: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [00:11] idletask, package architecture (i386) does not match system (amd64) [00:11] newbuntu: msdos partition format allows 4 primary partitions, where one primary partition can be "extended", and can have 4 (i think) paritions inside that. I'm guessing you are trying to make a 5th primary partition. [00:12] kneaux: ah yeah, now I remember this is a deep flaw in the .deb format - which RPM doesn't have [00:12] hello? [00:12] thune3: Well, I did, but I think I fixed that problem already. [00:12] kneaux: you may want to try and extract it by hand somewhere, and ensure you have a 32bit glibc and libs installed [00:12] xover: fo that message make sure it's enabled in bios (acpi) and check dmesg /var/log/syslog for additional hints [00:13] idletask, what are the package names? [00:13] thune3: The "Partition Wizard" (Windoze) utility I used let me convert two partitions to what it calls "logical," which I assume is the same as "extended." [00:13] rsync question: i'm getting a "Permission denied (13)" error attempting to rsync my hard drive. i've narrowed down the problem to my ~/.gvfs directory, but I'm rsync'ing using sudo. Also, I'm using the -x flag, which i thought should prevent attempts to copy mounted directories, which ~/.gvfs appears to be. Anyone have any ideas? Link to command output here: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/Puic3T1G [00:13] kneaux: a quick Google search indicates that ia32-libs would install the basic ones [00:13] thune3: So now there are two physical, two logical partitions, plus the unallocated space. [00:14] I'm not fluent with apt* commands, I'm an RPM and Gentoo person [00:14] I downloaded murrine from git and sudo make installed it, how do I set gtk to use murrine in /usr/local instead of the deb one? [00:14] So I can't list the file in a package, nor find its description [00:14] is it possible to open/mount .wim (Windows Imaging Format) files in Ubuntu? [00:14] hello [00:14] I just updated my ubuntu version, before which my ipod shuffle worked happily with it and i could even load music onto it, but now the green and amber lights just flash when i plug it in. [http://www.pcworld.com/article/126146/if_lights_blink_on_your_ipod_shuffle_it_could_be_bad_news.html] [00:14] it plays on its own tho. Could anyone help me with this? [00:14] scottj: If it's a binary, it should happen automatically [00:14] alraune, I have no BIOS, it uses EFI and its not accessible [00:14] kneaux: and there's a --force-architecture option to dpkg, it seems [00:15] you get this stupid grey sceen, you cannot change any settings pre bootloader [00:15] idletask, already have ia32-libs [00:15] newbuntu: right, the "extended" partition contains "logical" partitions. You would need to pastebin the output of "fdisk -l" or other parition information, in order to see what your issue is. [00:15] crazy2be: if what's a binary? I have two versions of murrine installed, one in /usr and one in /usr/local [00:15] xover: hehe, my apple-knowledge... better ask again for someone else running a macbook, sorry [00:15] kneaux: dpkg --force-architecture the.deb would seem to do the trick [00:16] kneaux: but you'll need to ldd the executable after install [00:16] kneaux: there you go.: http://tinyurl.com/327drec , and again, which package ?? [00:16] thune3: There's something else going on. I'm running in Windoze mode now - any info I can collect that might be useful in diagnosing the problem you can think of? === artinfrieden is now known as artin123 [00:16] alraune, gnaural [00:17] not to be rude people, but i would like to be able to update my ipod before the end of the night === Quutar is now known as Quutar|AWAY [00:17] scottj: If it doesn't do it automatically, i always just back up the relevant files from /usr and move the ones from /usr/local into /usr. However, it should pick up on it automatically. [00:17] when it tries to load murrine that is [00:17] kneaux: native for 64 bit available [00:17] crazy2be: so gtk prefers /usr/local over /usr by default? [00:18] alraune, what where? i couldn't find it :< [00:18] !info gnaural | kneaux [00:18] socttj: most applications will in my experience [00:18] kneaux: Package gnaural does not exist in lucid [00:18] newbuntu: i'm not sure how to get info in windows. i would like to see the partition layout information (partition start/size) info. [00:18] niteshade, what make and model, what player [00:18] kneaux: second, I'll fetch it [00:18] Kernel panic on boot. Same exact scenario as http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1515471 === root__ is now known as SQLShell [00:18] hi all [00:18] the old shuffle. It's white and about the same size and shape as a pack of gum kinda [00:18] The thread didn't solve the problem. [00:18] scottj: do you know for sure which version it is using? [00:18] Any advice? [00:19] niteshade, what player [00:19] newbuntu: another common issue has to do with trying to make modifications on a disk where a parition is mounted. [00:19] ipod shuffle [00:19] thune3: OK. I'm not very adept in Windoze. Is there an easier way than using PrtScrn to take a screen shot? [00:19] kneaux: you can get it from the getdeb repository, own your own (slight) risk [00:19] niteshade, ubuntu music player [00:19] crazy2be: nope, but I got an error w/ a theme that requires git version and searching showed that feature is a recently added one [00:19] oh, rhythmbox [00:19] kneaux: want the walktrough for apt ? === nikolam_ is now known as nikolam [00:19] can anyone suggest Webcam recording software- you know i record myself and edit it. I found Cheese- but its horrible. [00:19] thune3: The partition can't be mounte3d, since it has no file system on it. [00:20] SubCool, camorama? [00:20] newbuntu: Applications > Accessories > Take Screenshot [00:20] thune3: I try the 'APT::Install-Recommends "false";' and 'APT::Install-Suggests "false" thing. Only bad thing is it wil probably not imform me (ask) about the recomended packages [00:20] before, it would see it and let me update it and now it won't even access it like a drive like it did [00:20] i think the "update" deleted the driver that let me do that [00:20] can anyone recommend where i should look (e.g., irc channel, forums, etc.) for my rsync question? [00:20] The exact output is : [ 1.496018] Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0) [00:21] bazhang? [00:21] bobo123: some partition editors will refuse to make mods on a disk where ANY parition is mounted. [00:21] alraune, no i'm good. if you have the sources.list line for getdeb at hand, it'd save me some time, though [00:21] bazhang, trying it now- ty [00:21] thune3: bobo123 sorry newbuntu [00:21] niteshade, yes? [00:21] bastridrazor - thanks [00:21] anything? [00:21] brb [00:22] alraune, nvm, got it [00:22] bobo123: i see what you want. not sure if that's possible... [00:22] kneaux: deb http://archive.getdeb.net/ubuntu lucid-getdeb apps [00:22] niteshade: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1473082 [00:22] DasEi1, thanks [00:22] kneaux: wget -q -O- http://archive.getdeb.net/getdeb-archive.key | sudo apt-key add - [00:23] kneaux: that's me, another box [00:23] understood, sir [00:23] sprechen sie deutsch? [00:23] kneaux: yes, but in here [00:24] what could the cause of that be? [00:25] Heya, I have Ubuntu 10.04 and NVIDIA on a dual screen setup. I would like it so when I maximize a window it only fills up one screen, at the moment it fills up 2 of the monitors when I maximize a window. How do i do this? Thanks. [00:25] hi! How could I change those weather icons in my taskbar? [00:25] hi everybody. how can i start up ubuntu (10.04) without turning bluetooth on??! should i use blueman instead of bluez? [00:26] bobo123: i don't see a way to make it ask. you could just run apt-cache show and make decide to run with --install-recommends or not. === user is now known as guest83763 [00:26] well, that still didn't solve anything, but now i know i'm not the only one with the problem [00:26] is there any way to go back to the old version? [00:26] ubuntu-offtopic [00:26] #ubuntu-offtopic [00:27] huh? [00:27] niteshade: the way i skimmed it, it certainly read as if there were a few suggestions. [00:27] anyone use aspireone d260 with ubuntu ? [00:28] no, after i read it, they just wound up filing a bug report. And, i think one dude might have gotten his to work as it was a different ipod from the other ones' [00:28] he really just said that it already worked for him and he didn't have to do anything. [00:28] I gave my computer to a security professional and want to make sure that I do not have a FUD RAT on it. How can I check that? Firewall? [00:29] how do i leave a message for someone who is no longer in the channel? [00:30] what's a fud rat? [00:30] niteshade: a remote tool like a trojan [00:30] oh [00:30] artin123: netstat -ltupn [00:30] so it's like a virus? [00:31] you're worried the security professional violated your security? [00:31] niteshade: i count five "this worked. yay". there might be more in the bug report itself. [00:31] niteshade: like especially encrypted so u cannot detect it with a anti-virus scanner [00:31] idletask: thanks [00:31] But a "fud rat" with Linux? === [CM] is now known as CWM880 [00:32] idletask: I am not sure if this is possible but when someone has root access this might be possible? [00:32] if you give your computer to someone else they could rootkit it [00:32] "Im not sure what i did different when upgraded or if that even matters but I upgraded using the update-manager -d option." - (the "solver") This seems to be what he used, but it seems a tad late for that [00:33] artin123: if by "someone" you mean someone different than you, then yes [00:33] How do I replace thunar with nautilus? [00:33] I have configured to share some media over my home network, can ubuntu index the files so i can direct windows directory.? [00:34] tensorpudding: so I will try the netstat -ltupn [00:34] idletask: yes [00:34] artin123: check user accounts too [00:35] if I want to set up a postfix mail server only to relay sent mail from systems in my local network out to the internet, all I need to install is postfix, right? [00:35] I don't need courier, any tls packages, or other stuff? [00:35] tauren_: install and configure, but yes, only postfix [00:36] idletask: what do I have to look for, that only my user and the root account are there or something else? [00:36] hey [00:36] artin123: yes, that's it [00:36] wats up [00:36] thx [00:36] idletask, thanks. if I want it to catch bounces as well, I still don't need anything else? [00:36] niteshade: 1) "I found a way around. I did install Pysdm." 2) "removing the libgpod-common solved the problem for me" 3) "Thank you for the tip! That worked" 4) "It worked for me!!! Many thanx!" 5) "Removing libgpod-common worked for me" 6) "After a recent upgrade of podsleuth. My Ipod can now be synced" [00:36] HIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII [00:37] my bluetooth is always enabled on every boot and i always have manually to disable it. does any1 know of a workaround for this lil problem? [00:37] bazhang: [00:37] hsr, [00:37] bazhang: In that case nothing is deleteable [00:37] tauren_: you mean DSNs? Why would they come to your Postfix server anyway? You're not the MX for any domain, right? [00:38] idletask, yes, I control the MX [00:38] What is the use of /tmp folder? [00:38] !info /tmp [00:38] Package tmp does not exist in lucid [00:39] Oh ubottu tells only about packages! [00:39] hsr: temporary files [00:39] alraune: Why can't they be deleted? [00:40] tauren_: no, I mean, will the Postfix server you want to configure/install also be the MX or not? [00:40] idletask, basically, I'm setting up a send-only mail server for a web service, like e.mydomain.com. I already have a regular mail server at mail.mydomain.com for receiving regular mail. [00:40] hsr: they can , and they get automated anyway [00:40] OK, so no worries, your Postfix server will never see any bounces [00:41] alraune: But they don't. isee the same folders and files everyday [00:42] hsr: http://tinyurl.com/34x97l2 [00:42] idletask, but I need to process DSNs/bounces to automatically remove people from the mailing list if they bounce. I'm using VERP for bounce management, so the return path for bounces is e.mydomain.com instead of the regular mail host. [00:42] hsr: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/01/19/changing-the-tmp-cleanup-frequency/ [00:42] alraune: Thanks [00:42] tauren_: ah, I see - then you'll need a lot more than basic configuration [00:43] How can i learn about filesystems? [00:43] awesome, that worked [00:43] What's the "proper" way to install postgresql-8.1 on Lucid? [00:44] hsr: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemsExplained [00:45] alraune: Thanks [00:45] :) [00:45] This page misses btrfs [00:45] Bah [00:45] hsr: or do you talk about the different dirs and their meaning ? [00:45] I need a ubuntu professional to help with me an video driver issue [00:46] ScribbleJ: There isn't, use 8.4. [00:46] Does linux, ubuntu specifically, have and problems with webcams in general? [00:47] jpds, I'm in the process of upgrading to 8.4 but the best path I'll have to do so involves running 8.1 on the machine temporarily. [00:47] Spaztic_One: no, check list before buy [00:47] alraune: What list is this? [00:48] When I open folders via the Places menu, they always open in thunar. How do I set them to open with Nautilus? [00:49] Spaztic_One: there are few compatibilty lists, a start : http://tinyurl.com/32bkllx [00:49] !hw [00:49] !hardware [00:49] For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection [00:50] Grazie [00:52] alraune, If you do a /etc/init.d/fancontrol status does it read running on your system? [00:53] mine is saying not running [00:53] is there a way to install helvetica on ubuntu? [00:53] idletask: can you give me a command to show all users please, cannot find it [00:53] How do I re-assign the file:// protocol to nautilus? [00:53] artin123: getent passwd [00:54] thank you [00:54] xover: I haven't installed it, since I use thermal resistors for it [00:54] how do i get byobu/screen to automatically start when i launch gnome-terminal or terminator [00:55] xover: mine isn't [00:55] alraune, what does that mean? [00:55] xover: I don't have fancontrol installed [00:55] if i have temperatures readings, why can i not just set my fans based on them [00:56] if 80defrees, fan - 4000rpm or equivalent pwm. [00:57] xover: did you try the apple-module ? does sudo pwmconfig no find a suitable fan ? [00:57] now* [00:57] alraune, applesmc was always running [00:58] alraune, pwmconfig find no suitable sensors [00:58] /usr/sbin/pwmconfig: There are no pwm-capable sensor modules installed\ [00:59] Hello again. Lost my connection. I was having partitioning problems, trying to do a dual-boot install on a Windoze laptop. I've created a screenshot showing the partition table: http://s1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc389/gst12c41/?action=view¤t=partitions.jpg [00:59] xover: what macbook was it ? [01:01] any screen or byobu users? [01:01] 4,1 [01:02] xover: output of: cat /sys/devices/platform/applesmc.768/fan1_manual ? [01:03] 0 and 0 for 2 [01:03] xover: good sign! http://tinyurl.com/34ke9hb [01:03] idletask: can I paste you the results please so you check it? [01:05] xover: thing is, the recent distros changed from hal to acpi and upstart, and I didn't follow that for mac [01:05] is it because i do not power off? [01:06] can I paste the results of "getent passwd" publicly, so someome can tell me how many users I have, or is there some sensitive information in it? [01:06] xover: power off ? you mean stress the cpu ? [01:09] alraune, there was a mention of rebooting instead of powering off [01:09] I just realized ubuntu 10.10 is out [01:10] I think this is the reason why, as yesterday i did an SMC reset, which i think is just powering off the laptop. holding down the power button without the batter on power in isnt going to do anything right? its just a complete power off!? [01:10] i had my cpu up to 90degrees and the fans still didnt move === King is now known as Guest81904 [01:10] Grrr [01:10] I cannot get virt-manager/kvm to work [01:10] xover:same in view of installs [01:11] xover: tried to higher fan speed as described ? [01:12] elitexray, no its beta, #ubuntu+1 for discussion [01:12] alraune, how do you mean [01:12] xover: read the link I gave you [01:12] I have [01:12] xover: http://tinyurl.com/34ke9hb [01:12] i know how to manually set them [01:12] i want it to happen automatically. [01:13] nice job bazhang [01:13] hallo [01:13] i think i need to power off the machine, rebooting from windows into linux i think is the cause of the issue. i have a feeling it is today with the NVRAM registers as described. [01:13] brb [01:13] Ubuntu is pretty unsupportive [01:13] Ive been in here mentioning about my video driver issue [01:14] xover: if that module works corectly it should, ;; to test I'd higher the speed to protect cpu and then stress the cpu to see if temps stay fine [01:14] !details | elitexray [01:14] elitexray: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..." [01:14] I doesn't seem like I can get cron working properly. Any command I use doesn't work. "12 * * * * kate ~/shiiit.txt" - should have been executed 02:12, but it didnt [01:14] I've been in here for a half hour, elitexray, and I don't know what your video driver issue is. [01:14] What does one suggest in the area of databases [01:14] How can I show all accounts using getent passwd, but without all the extra information? I just want to see the account names [01:15] Jantire, that depends a lot on your needs... but postgresql does rock. [01:15] And eventually it would be a rather large database [01:15] glaucous: are you sure that ~/ will point to the right location, as this is probably run as root [01:15] glaucous: there's one star too much [01:15] I have a problem with getting a visual on my games during start up running on wine. [01:15] Theres audio but no visual === lulz is now known as Cream [01:15] glaucous: and what's more, kate is a graphical program, it cannot be launched via cron [01:16] elitexray, what makes you think that's a video driver issue? [01:16] That's as far as my knowledge goes. [01:16] I am running ubuntu 9.04 I believe and I had it config'd for long time and it had firefox installed an compiz effects working after a recent partial update firefox is missing and compiz is not working... does anyone know why this windows like behavior is manifesting itself? [01:16] elitexray, that's a problem with wine games try #winehq [01:16] I've been told the same thing, I've been to winehq [01:16] they cant help [01:16] !appdb | elitexray and check this [01:16] elitexray and check this: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help [01:16] Sounds like a wine issue. Wine is tricky and personally I keep a copy of Windows around just for the games. [01:17] idletask: Oh, and what about a command that requires root (and is run as user), will there pop up a sudo terminal, or it won't display anything? [01:17] Useless [01:17] I give up [01:17] Good idea. [01:17] Yeah thanks [01:17] dougl: 'a recent partial update'? [01:18] glaucous: it will never display anything, cron doesn't have the necessary environment and/or file descriptors to achieve what you want - or maybe if you pass DISPLAY to it and do xhost +localhost, then that may work [01:18] But no guarantee [01:18] Ubuntu is lacking professionals [01:18] glaucous: try that with the at command first [01:18] soreau, yes got message from system saying only partial up date was available so I did partial update - system dl 150 or so packages and requested restart [01:18] idletask: Alright, no need. All my commands are text based. [01:18] !attitude | elitexray [01:18] elitexray: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines [01:18] idletask: That just means I have to run it as root [01:18] newbuntu2: I can't tell for sure from that screenshot but I'm guessing that the problem is that the free space is not within your extended partition, and you've run out of primary partitions. === HEADSHOT is now known as HEADSHOT|afk [01:19] idletask: The crontab jobs [01:19] glaucous: what are you trying to achieve exactly anyway? [01:19] dougl: Hm, hopefully that wasn't a dist-upgrade [01:19] soreau, how can I tell? [01:19] idletask: Backup scripts to run every day/week etc. Some for some reason require sudo, otherwise the fail (even when reading, which is odd) [01:19] dougl: Check that firefox is installed, run apt-get update/upgrade and make sure it returns without error. For your compiz issue, pastebin your X log to pastebin.com [01:20] soreau, synaptic says firefox is installed [01:20] Hi. Running xubuntu on an older machine (P4/512MB). Moving around any of the windows (like Firefox) cause a bit of CPU usage and the window is a big laggy to move. Is this a CPU or video card bound thing? [01:20] How do I list the files in a package at the command line, please? [01:20] will_, ram more likely [01:21] hi, i'm using auctex to edit my latex files. but, the indentation is not working well. E.g.: auctex does not indent \sections from subsections. Is there a way to do that? [01:21] glaucous: well, consider that some files you want to read may indeed not be readable by a normal user, and/or some directories not traversable [01:21] will, check the output of "top" in a terminal while you're moving the windows... if it's a CPU issue you'll see it there. Or use any GUI based cpu monitor I suppose. [01:21] dougl: Well my guess is that it was a failed dist-upgrade. You better concentrate on backing up any important data in the event you will need to perform a fresh install [01:21] bazhang: Hmm... ok. Going to get it upgraded to 1.5GB (the max of the system... just waiting on my ebay purchase... :) [01:22] idletask: dpkg -L package [01:22] hey everybody [01:22] will_: what gpu? [01:22] Jordan_U: thanks [01:22] idletask: You're welcome. [01:22] soreau, ok - thanks for info appreciate your help [01:22] aeon-ltd: VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 65x/M650/740 PCI/AGP VGA Display Adapter [01:22] will_: just wondering, how much did you spend on the ram? [01:23] will_, xubuntu is not that much lighter than ubuntu; lubuntu is though, by quite a margin (lubuntu-desktop to try) [01:23] * h-bomb is away: I'm busy [01:23] Grrr [01:23] i have a problem, i changed my desktop with the compiz configuration settings manager . but after i shutdown my laptop.....the settings are no longer there, when i check the compiz manager again ..... then it is all there and i cannot use it again [01:23] aeon-ltd: $22+5 shipping, DDR RAM 2x512 [01:23] Why won't KVM work, and why is virt-manager written in python? :( [01:23] idletask: Yeah I guess. just seems a bit odd that some files are not readable. I can understand readonly, but what harm can reading do? [01:23] will_: It's CPU bound, but only because SiS cards are notoriously bad WRT linux support. [01:23] dougl: I don't know about your firefox issue but if you pastebin your X log from /var/log/Xorg.0.log to pastebin.com I could look and see what's wrong with your graphics drivers [01:23] will_: to go further on what bazhang said, openbox on top of a ubuntu cli/server install is even lighter than xu/lubuntu [01:24] Jordan_U: So if I got an AGP ATI or nVidia card, it should be better? [01:24] will_: already paid? [01:24] i would be so happy if somebody could help me [01:24] will_: Yes. [01:24] nabin_raj: Enable the effects in gnome-appearance-properties? [01:24] aeon-ltd: yep [01:24] will_, there is lubuntu-core as well if you wish to not use openbox or HAL [01:24] glaucous: well, it's not harmless, and some files normal users just have no point in reading, so it is as well they cannot read them [01:24] Jordan_U: How about a matrox card? [01:24] will_: From what I remember those are pretty abismal in linux as well. [01:24] soreau, I dont thinks is a driver issue compiz no longer starts.... I still get my nvidia splash screen when starting x [01:25] Jordan_U: Ok. ATI or nVidia is better? So many choices heh [01:25] will_: not sure about sis support, but i think you could've saved that $22, just by looking into alternative software or distro versions, but meh more ram couldn't hurt in the long run [01:25] soreau: so how do i do that [01:25] bazhang: aeon-ltd: alright, I'll also look into those as well. :) [01:26] dougl: Did you try re-enabling it in the visual effects tab and save your session by clicking Remember Currently Running Application in sys>prefs>startup programs>options tab? [01:26] nabin_raj: ^^ [01:26] aeon-ltd: Eh... more RAM isn't a bad thing hehe [01:26] OK, other command line question: I have a package name, how do I know its installed version? [01:26] dougl: nabin_raj: sys>prefs>appearance>visual effects tab [01:26] * idletask only just starts with dpkg/apt and friends [01:26] will_: If you don't mind proprietary drivers then nvidia is generally better, especially with older cards. [01:27] Jordan_U: Don't mind :) Ok, I'll look into that one. Thanks! :) [01:27] idletask: apt-cache policy package [01:27] will_: You're welcome. [01:27] policy? To know the installed _versions_? [01:27] How logical is that? [01:29] idletask: It gives other information as well as just the currently installed version. [01:29]