[09:41] <htorque> greetings, can anyone running up-to-date unity try to reproduce bug 598663? if you follow the two steps and have the 'Close' item in the global 'File' menu, then please mark as confirmed
[09:42] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 598663 in nautilus (and 2 other projects) "Nautilus: global menu stays visible after closing (affects: 1) (heat: 12)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/598663
[09:46] <head_victim> What's the best method of reporting a bug in a locale that doesn't allow for 12 hour time (it defaults to 24hours which is fine but doesn't even have the option for 12)?
[10:10] <bullgard4> [Maverick] I entered '~$ ubuntu-bug gnome-media'. I am surprised: A window "Bug-Buddy" opens, telling me: "Send a bug report: The application epiphany has crashed. Information concerning program crash have been successfully collected. Bug buddy does not know the crashed apllication. Therefore it cannot send the error report to the GNOME bug database. Please store the bug in a text file and...
[10:10] <bullgard4> ...report to the bug database of the affected application." I am lost. How to proceed?
[10:11] <bullgard4> Epiphany is still running.
[10:35] <abhijit> hi
[12:40] <baptistemm> hello
[12:40] <baptistemm> is my SRU complete (Bug 636999) ?
[12:40] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 636999 in git-core (Debian) (and 1 other project) "gitweb.js missing in gitweb package (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Unknown,Unknown] https://launchpad.net/bugs/636999
[13:06] <jibel> baptistemm, could you add a test case in the description, and what are the potential regressions if any ?
[13:14] <baptistemm> jibel: test case is a bit hard, as you need to setup a vhost, but the consequence is simple: you'll have plenty of message 404 NOT FOUND for gitweb.js
[13:14] <baptistemm> and no regression as this is just a missing file
[13:25] <jibel> baptistemm, no need to detail every step to setup a vhost except if there is a specific configuration for that vhost.
[13:26] <jibel> baptistemm, without a test case, the sru won't be approved.
[15:25] <kamusin> our boot is dead :(
[15:26] <jpds> Our wee boot.
[15:27] <kamusin> supermegalopowerawesome3.0motu is gone ..
[15:27] <pedro_> hggdh, ^
[15:30] <hggdh> eh? eeeBotu is dead?
[19:23] <flipefr> hola
[19:23] <flipefr> hi
[19:23] <hggdh> alo
[19:24] <flipefr> hola
[19:24] <flipefr> in which language do you speak
[19:25] <flipefr> ?
[19:25] <greg-g> flipefr: most conversation in this channel happens in english. Although, there are speakers of other languages in here.
[19:27] <flipefr> i am a little lost
[19:27] <flipefr> how can i see the list of users in this channel?
[19:28] <nisshh> flipefr: try the /names command
[19:28] <nisshh> flipefr: which irc client are you using?
[19:28] <flipefr> ok
[19:28] <flipefr> x-chat gnome
[19:29] <nisshh> flipefr: and you dont have a list of users to the right of the chat window? xchat normally does
[19:29] <flipefr> no
[19:30] <flipefr> i have a list in the tab conversations
[19:30] <flipefr> in the button users
[19:30] <nisshh> ah ok
[19:30] <flipefr> but not at the right side
[19:31] <flipefr> there is no way to incorporate it to the frame?
[19:31] <nisshh> flipefr: is there any other reason you came to this channel? because if its just support, #ubuntu would be more appropriate
[19:31] <mistrynitesh> Hi flipefr, welcome to the bugsquad :-)
[19:31] <flipefr> because someone told me to come here in the ubuntu bugsquad while i wait for a mentor
[19:32] <flipefr> i dont now how to start the triage process so maybe here someone would now
[19:34] <nisshh> flipefr: ah, ok, sorry, i didnt know you were waiting for a mentor, just thought you came looking for support
[19:34] <nisshh> flipefr: well, this is the official bugsquad channel after all
[19:35] <flipefr> so here i am
[19:35] <nisshh> :)
[19:35] <flipefr> xd
[19:35] <nisshh> flipefr: im also being mentored at the moment, although by the sound of it, your newer to Ubuntu than i am :)
[19:37] <flipefr> yes, i am very newer in this
[19:37] <flipefr> but not using ubuntu
[19:37] <flipefr> so i decided to colaborate relatively soon
[19:37] <nisshh> flipefr: oh? what are you using?
[19:38] <flipefr> lucid
[19:38] <flipefr> i used jaunty and karmic before
[19:39] <nisshh> flipefr: lucid IS ubuntu, unless your using kubuntu or xubuntu
[19:39] <flipefr> pure ubuntu, gnome desktop
[19:40] <flipefr> not kubuntu or xubuntu
[19:40] <flipefr> i dont like too  much kde
[19:40] <nisshh> ok
[19:41] <flipefr> sooooo
[19:41] <flipefr> i subscribed to the eail list
[19:41] <flipefr> email
[19:41] <flipefr> i read the triage guide
[19:42] <flipefr> i requested a mentor
[19:42] <flipefr> and now i am waiting
[19:42] <nisshh> cool
[19:42] <flipefr> i suppose the mentor contacted you via email
[19:42] <flipefr> and told you something to do
[19:43] <flipefr> but i am not hurry
[19:43] <flipefr> and i dont have much free time
[19:43] <nisshh> right
[19:43] <flipefr> so that's the rason why i started by the simplest way
[19:43] <flipefr> instead of development
[19:43] <flipefr> reason
[19:44] <flipefr> can you tell something you ussually do to solve bugs
[19:45] <flipefr> do you read the list and choose what to do
[19:45] <flipefr> or there is a place, maybe launchpad, where you are assigned to a bug
[19:45] <flipefr> until you reassign it to a developer
[19:46] <flipefr> or maybe solve it
[19:46] <flipefr> or reject
[19:46] <nisshh> flipefr: you get on launchpad and do all sorts of things with bugs :)
[19:46] <flipefr> ok
[19:47] <nisshh> flipefr: you should understand that your mentor is not their to do it for you, your mentor is there to answer your questions and report on your progress
[19:47] <nisshh> there*
[19:48] <flipefr> ok
[19:49] <flipefr> so i should start investigate in launchpad
[19:50] <nisshh> flipefr: im not your mentor, but yea, you should have signed up to launchpad before you even requested a mentor
[19:51] <flipefr> i signed but all i did was change the personal profile, the ubuntu wiki and a few things
[19:51] <flipefr> i now there is a place for bugs
[19:52] <flipefr> but i didnt see how to view the list
[19:53] <flipefr> inside launchpad
[19:53] <flipefr> there is a tab named "bugs"
[19:54] <flipefr> where there is a combo to select the list of bugs
[19:54] <nisshh> thats it
[19:54] <flipefr> but i find nothing in all categories
[19:54] <nisshh> flipefr: how long have you been using ubuntu for?
[19:55] <flipefr> a year or so
[19:55] <flipefr> only like user
[19:55] <nisshh> right
[19:55] <flipefr> more than a year
[19:55] <flipefr> maybe a year and half
[19:55] <flipefr> 3 versions
[19:56] <flipefr> of course i use synaptic and terminal
[19:56] <nisshh> so do most people
[19:56] <flipefr> and changed playmouth and some sort of things
[19:57] <flipefr> but never compile kernel or developed a program
[19:57] <flipefr> only some practices in c
[19:57] <flipefr> python
[19:57] <flipefr> java
[19:57] <flipefr> made a small script
[19:58] <nisshh> yea
[19:58] <flipefr> thats things
[19:58] <flipefr> those
[19:58] <flipefr> but no more deep
[19:58] <flipefr> anyway
[19:58] <flipefr> launchpad tells me there is no bugs for me
[19:59] <flipefr> what is a blueprint here in launchpad
[19:59] <nisshh> flipefr: hang on, hang on
[20:00] <nisshh> flipefr: your mentor will answer your questions
[20:00] <flipefr> ok
[20:00] <flipefr> thanks anyway
[20:00] <nisshh> :)
[20:00] <nisshh> flipefr: sorry if im being blunt about it but im pretty busy writing code here :)
[20:01] <flipefr> ok
[20:01] <flipefr> i am leaving then
[20:01] <flipefr> thanks
[20:01] <nisshh> np :)
[20:02] <flipefr> bye
[20:02] <nisshh> cya :)
[20:22] <sometux> there is a bug in the help's menus
[20:23] <sometux> there is a bug in the help's menus. release: Ubuntu 10.10 beta
[20:26] <baptistemm> what an useful bug report
[20:26]  * yofel just wanted to say that..
[20:30] <hggdh> OK. There is a bug on the above bug report
[20:31] <kklimonda> report it
[20:31] <kklimonda> I'll confirm and we can get people start working on a fix
[20:31] <hggdh> I think I only need to repeat it twice, and it is reported
[20:31] <Guest63993> Hello regarding bug 577624 seems a wishlist, may I have someone please mark as such?
[20:31] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 577624 in keepassx (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "leaves stale lockfiles on unclean shutdown (affects: 1) (heat: 28)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/577624
[20:33] <kklimonda> rusivi: I disagree - from description it seems that you have to do some manual steps to get it unlocked.
[20:33] <kklimonda> well, both from description and comments
[20:33] <rusivi> Your correct that you do have to do some manual steps, input the master password.
[20:34] <rusivi> Then it asks you if you want read-only, unlock,
[20:34] <rusivi> kklimonda: You choose unlock, your back in business.
[20:36] <kklimonda> rusivi: right, so I don't think that wishlist fits - maybe some other importance would fit the description better instead?
[20:36] <rusivi> kklimonda: Well, I don't have a better suggestion other than wishlist/opinion :)
[20:37] <rusivi> kklimonda: invalid?!
[20:38] <kklimonda> rusivi: well, we can agree that there is a problem with keepassx so it's not an invalid report.
[20:38] <njin> pedro_: hello, can you sponsor my membership at Ubuntu-it ? http://forum.ubuntu-it.org/index.php/topic,369223.0.html
[20:38] <kklimonda> rusivi: reporter has said that it happens when he shuts down his computer using Shutdown from menu.
[20:38] <njin> everyone is invited
[20:38] <rusivi> kklimonda: I don't agree. It's not a problem. The file is "unlocked" by inputting the master password on startup, then one chooses read-only mode or unlock. It's a matter of aesthetics.
[20:39] <kklimonda> rusivi: also "Invalid" isn't really an importance.
[20:39] <rusivi> kklimonda: how is inputting the master password to access the database file a bug?
[20:40] <kklimonda> rusivi: not removing a lock on db at shutdown is.
[20:43] <rusivi> kklimonda: If anything, it's a wishlist, b/c it does not cause any adverse affect to the end user other than having to click one extra check box after typing in master password.
[20:44] <kklimonda> rusivi: then it's an usability issue, isn't it? User wouldn't understand why is he asked this question as he didn't do anything wrong.
[20:50] <rusivi> kklimonda: BTW, IDK why devs implemented this locking mechanism, I'll check documentation see if it reveals anything.
[20:50] <kklimonda> rusivi: it's probably a mechanism to prevent two instances of keepassx from writing to the same database at the same time.
[20:53] <rusivi> kklimonda: I think your correct about that.
[21:05] <kklimonda> rusivi: btw, what importance do you think the bug matches if you check it against this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Importance ?
[21:08] <rusivi> kklimonda: Honestly, a Wishlist for a Feature Specification, which upstream would address.
[21:09] <kklimonda> and what about Low?
[21:13] <kklimonda> rusivi: to be more exact I disagree with siretart that this is an expected behaviour because keepassx has been killed. We do provide a way for applications to learn about shutdown in progress and close cleanly.
[21:14] <rusivi> kklimonda: If you think Low than so be it, no big deal ;)
[21:14] <kklimonda> rusivi: well, I'm just discussing it - this way we both learn something new.
[21:18] <rusivi> kklimonda: fair enough. It does seem this is a request for KeePassX to honor the provided learning of shutdown & clean closing you mentioned. What is this package(s) or link that discusses this learning process?
[21:19] <njin> pedro_: around ?
[21:20] <kklimonda> rusivi: what do you mean?
[21:20] <pedro_> njin, yeah
[21:21] <njin> pedro_: hello, haw are you ?
[21:21] <rusivi> kklimonda: you mentioned Ubuntu provides a way for applications to learn about shutdown in progress and close cleanly. I would like to know more about this, could you please provide some information on this?
[21:23] <pedro_> njin, i'm good, thanks. what about you?
[21:23] <kklimonda> rusivi: oh, both GNOME and KDE provide a common D-Bus interface applications can use to register themselves and then, at the shutdown they receive notification that shutdown is in progress and may do some nifty stuff.
[21:23] <njin> everythings ok, are you busy ?
[21:24] <njin> pedro_:^
[21:24] <pedro_> no more than the usual ;-)
[21:24] <njin> LO
[21:27] <kklimonda> rusivi: for example GNOME does this through gnome session: http://live.gnome.org/SessionManagement/GnomeSession