[03:15] maco, http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4087/4983006679_443b5b8cc3.jpg === kim0 is now known as kim0_3G [05:53] paultag: still around? [07:56] good morning all! [07:58] ara: morning :) [07:58] * kim0_3G waves hi to everyone [07:58] morning kim0_3G [08:00] * nigelb waves too [08:00] kim0_3G: on phone? ;) [08:00] nah laptop over 3G stick [08:01] ah [08:02] morning [08:02] czajkowski: morning :) [08:04] morning czajkowski :) [08:06] good weekend folks? [08:07] yep for me :) [08:07] czajkowski: how about yourself [08:07] oh, YES! [08:07] * nigelb traveled close to 1000 km, fun [08:07] morning all [08:08] rugby and catching up on movies and with my sister [08:08] all good [08:09] ,5 [08:10] duanedesign: #fail? ;) [08:10] morning AlanBell :) [08:10] lol, trying to type in the dark [08:10] that's a subtle hint to go to bed :p [08:11] , isnt even that close to / big fail :) [08:11] I got my cousins holloween costume http://twitpic.com/2n2o1x more cute than scarey [08:12] http://twitpic.com/2nruzm mothership and caoimhe [08:12] czajkowski: this would be good: http://www.hookandneedles.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/nibbler1.jpg [08:13] nigelb: think your right. cya friends in a few hours o/ [08:13] duanedesign: good night :) [08:14] right need to drop princess to work [08:14] bbiab [08:15] how sweet :D [08:15] (she is going to stab me, I know) [08:47] heh [08:47] well just saves her the walk and it looks lie it's going to rain [08:47] plus she's in great form as she got her apprenticeship sorted finally [08:48] :) [08:54] * jussi is getting excited/scared [08:55] * nigelb hugs jussi [08:55] I hope your feet are toasty warm [08:55] hehe [08:55] not yet [08:56] jussi: 2 weeks to go? [08:56] 12 days [08:56] :D [08:56] He has it counted down to he minute...... :p [08:56] *the minute [08:57] morning all [08:59] buenas dpm [09:00] hey ara, buenas [09:02] morning dpm :) [09:02] morning nigelb :) [09:45] popey: greetings alien :p [09:45] :) [09:46] * nigelb tries to find the Debian folks for that [09:48] popey: lool, or siretart would be good people to talk to about it. [09:48] they both have upload rights in debian for that package [10:23] hey kim0_3G, with your fancy nick I hadn't noticed you were around :) [10:23] how's the 3G connection doing? [10:55] dpm: hehe, it's a bit spotty [10:55] dpm: how are you today [10:56] kim0_3G, fine, a quiet Monday so far. How are things in Cairo? Or are you on the road somewhere? [10:58] dpm: I'm actually spending the week in a coastal city [10:59] kim0_3G, nice! [11:00] so you're with your laptop on the beach, cocktail next to it... and all that business? :) [11:00] yeah :) [11:00] hehe .. not that fancy but still nice [11:00] cool ;) [11:28] morning all [11:28] hola duanedesign [11:28] hey duanedesign [11:29] 'lo communitinians [11:30] or communinites :) [13:39] doctormo: are you around? I'd like to talk to you about your wizardpen support :) [13:51] * dpm lunch [14:36] scott-work: Yes I am around [15:02] doctormo: persia told me some about you maintaining the upstream tablet support (wizardpen) [15:02] doctormo: your effort it certainly appreciated and i would like Ubuntu Studio to support his [15:02] s/his/this [15:02] scott-work: Organising the upstream yes, not so much on the programming side, but sorting out the patches, people and downstream. [15:03] doctormo: i would like to get it into the ubuntu studio seeds for natty so we can provide support out of the box [15:03] scott-work: persia said you would like to support it, I've got a debian guy working on some packaging. [15:03] doctormo: outstanding [15:04] scott-work: So far we've had sucessful reports from Ubuntu and Mint users, failures for SuSE (not sure why, suspect Xorg version) [15:04] so we need to be careful of xorg versions and where the tablet support drifts for natty, wacom support is the best and yet it's still needs patching for maverik. [15:05] doctormo: i don't intend to impugn your debian packer's abilities, but if you run into trouble please let me know, the ubuntu studio team is working with the debian multimedia team and they freaking rock! [15:06] scott-work: Hold that thought, I jsut got a facinating email concerning wizardpen, can you give me your email address so I can CC you? [15:19] doctormo: sure scottalavender@gmail.com [15:20] scott-work: OK just had to join about 10 dots in that email, it's very coincidental that we should be talking at the same time as receiving that. :-D [15:22] doctormo: serendipitous indeed :-) [15:24] scott-work: What kind of tablet do you have? === _paultag_ is now known as paultag_ [15:29] doctormo: i do not own a tablet [15:30] scott-work: More of a keyboard man? [15:30] doctormo: but i see that the debian packager you are working with is the same one that i am familiar with :D [15:31] doctormo: i'm not really a robust artistic type, if i am inspired i usually use pencil although i have been using inkscape more and more though [15:35] scott-work: I do my abominably awful daily sketches in inkscape with the tablet http://doctormo.deviantart.com/gallery/#_browse/scraps [15:45] doctormo: so far i've really only used inkscape to work on logo and other ubuntu studio related items: http://scottalavender.deviantart.com/gallery/ [15:46] doctormo: although i'm beginning to be intrigued by the potential of tablets [15:46] scott-work: See if you can find a second hand wizardpen on cragies list, that'd sure help :-D [15:53] hey all! [15:55] jono: howdy :) [15:55] hey kim0_3G [15:55] kim0_3G, 3G? laptop down? [15:55] jono: nah .. I'm just in another city [15:55] ahhh [15:56] kim0_3G, good to go in 5m? [15:56] jono: yep [15:56] :) [15:59] hi jono [15:59] Morning all [15:59] we have alot to do today! [16:01] kim0_3G, just logging in [16:01] jono: mumble working for ya ? [16:01] jcastro_: you're telling me, i got laundry, dishes, several piles of god knows what to find places for. I'll be lucky if I get to a terminal today. [16:02] just testing kim0_3G [16:02] jono: coz skype isn't for me :) [16:02] kim0_3G, can you hear me? [16:02] kim0_3G: I need jono when you're done with him === jcastro__ is now known as jcastro [16:02] sure you can have him :) [16:03] "I didn't want him anyway!" [16:03] kim0_3G, can you hear me? [16:04] kim0_3G, it keeps cutting out [16:04] kim0_3G, msg me your number, I will phone you [16:08] jono and whichever jcastro happens to be the real jcastro_, big new release of LoCo Directory took place this morning! [16:08] oh nice [16:09] dude people loved the directory when I showed it to them at OLF [16:09] too bad you werent showing them today... [16:09] Names are now displayed instead of usernames [16:10] Pictures can be shown on pages now (from flickr and the like) [16:18] cjohnston: Hmm, what is the new empty row "Loco Contacts(s)" for? [16:19] akgraner`: about how many attendees on Friday do you think? [16:19] doctormo: for teams to assign contacts [16:20] Because an owner/admin doesn [16:20] 't mean they are a contact [16:20] cjohnston: That's right, but why show an empty row? [16:20] Because noone has added the contacts? [16:20] I guess it could be changed to if no contacts dont show [16:22] I would think it would be more likely to be added if it was left visible though [16:22] people would ping the admins and tell them about it [16:27] cjohnston: Although it breaks existing ui rules in that website for not showing rows that are not being used, or at the vest least filling out the blank area with (non set) and See contact here links for admins. [16:29] very* set* [16:32] 2 [16:32] 3 [16:48] hey jono, welcome back [16:49] hey dpm [16:49] thanks! [16:56] cjohnston: you don't have far to go for UDS this year. [16:56] ;-) === akgraner` is now known as akgraner [16:57] jcastro quick call? [16:57] jcastro_, ^ [16:57] yes please [16:57] mumble? [16:57] n [16:57] lol.. which one is the real one? :-P [16:58] p [17:00] * popey hugs jono and jcastro [17:01] * AlanBell thinks jono is np-complete [17:01] * popey misses dholbach [17:02] me too [17:05] Where is dholbach ? [17:05] jono: I had sent you a mail re:lernid, will you be able to get to it this week? pleaes please please :) [17:05] holiday [17:06] paultag_: iran [17:06] Ah, good for him [17:06] hope he's having fun [17:06] he needs it [17:06] jcastro, we handed out about 100 orange dots on Friday [17:06] BRB [17:06] * paultag_ hugs akgraner [17:06] BRB === Technovi1ing is now known as technoviking [17:49] woot, got mobile working on my test forums with tapatalk, should be in the Ubuntu Forums when we upgrade. [17:51] nice [17:51] when's the new theme coming? [17:53] after we upgrade to vB4 [17:53] You can see a preview at http://www.mikesplanet.net/forums [17:54] would love some feedback from non-forum regulars [17:56] the orange feels too bright [17:56] * jcastro uses this opportunity to ask for signatures to be shut off so conversations can be easier to follow [17:56] got the hex code for the color from the design team [17:56] weird [17:58] jcastro: no againist removing signature. File a bug and I will confirm it. [18:00] technoviking: what's the lp project for the forums? [18:00] thought ubuntuforums [18:00] ubuntuforums.org [18:01] should switch that [18:01] ok, calling it a day. Have a nice rest of the day everyone! [18:06] technoviking: filed, thanks [18:06] * jcastro hopes people agree [18:07] paultag, akgraner: Congrats on OLF. [18:07] jcastro: Are the colors a bit mismatching? [18:07] I wish I could have gone, I would have brought my booth decorations and made some more purple. [18:07] doctormo, thanks! It was a great time - wish you could have been there [18:08] I'm not great at UI, but those colors look too painful to look at. [18:08] indeed [18:08] oh, I should read! You just said that :) [18:08] and to be honest, do you care about the person's hardware or hobbies? If I did I would click on their profile [18:08] "Running Lucid AMD64 on a Quad Core" etc. [18:09] hahaha, forestpixie is having fun on new forums - "You might find it worthwhile to also kill the cat and buy a dog" [18:10] jcastro: switch to ubuntu2 theme at the bottom, and see if that is better [18:11] that feels more right [18:11] DD4814 is the right colour in the RGB space [18:12] should probably reference the ubuntubeta font (which should change names real soon now) [18:12] I hope it will be put up somewhere so it can be referenced with @font-face too [18:13] AlanBell: people feel DD4814 is too bright, switch to the orange in the new theme [18:14] need to talk to Iain about this [18:14] might want to throw in a little bit of dot pattern somewhere [18:14] I will add the Ubuntu font [18:14] too much purple [18:16] jcastro: there can never be enough purple! We are as kings! [18:16] doctormo: made a Dark Augine theme also:) [18:17] one cannot have enough orange [18:17] it makes people happy [18:17] the dark aubergine looks quite good [18:19] AlanBell: needs a ton of tweaking, and the vB color scheme setup make KDE look simple [18:20] cjohnston: Congratulations, according to wacky statistics you've done most of the work on the loco directory after dholbach himself since the project was started. :-) [18:20] over 200 setting, before you even look at css or templates [18:20] wacky statistics? [18:21] czajkowski: Isn't orange an emotive colour, depends on the shade. Best colours are green for relaxing and natural and blue for vibrant and awake. [18:21] cjohnston: bugs and merge requests. [18:22] what is wacky statistics? [18:23] doctormo: have you seen my blog [18:23] I LOVE ORANGE [18:23] czajkowski: My blog would say I love black, and penguin. [18:24] later all, moving the main web server for our department from SOlaris with vingette to Ubuntu [18:24] and is your blog right [18:24] czajkowski: Nope, I'm more of a purple, blue kinda person. [18:24] And I prepare cephlapods. [18:24] prefer* [18:26] lol! prepare! [18:39] jono, jcastro - will you all be blogging about AppDevWeek this week - looks like there is only one open slot in the original time slots and 2 open in the extended area [18:40] telepathy should be going in the original slot [18:40] I will blog it tomorrow ish [18:40] sorry I am slammed today [18:40] jcastro, no worries [18:40] I know the feeling I'm catching up from OLF - just wanted to get it on your radar :-) [18:40] nod [18:42] jcastro, I'm going back to "selling time-shares" now ;-P [18:42] don't forget the upsell! [18:42] Is that what we've come down to. [18:42] doctormo, that's how jcastro said I sounded when I was talking about the benefits of being on a LoCo team [18:42] heh [19:00] brb [19:00] jcastro, I put telepathy w/instructor TBD in the Friday Slot and added Sense's - indicator stack in python to Tuesday - so that leaves one extra open slot [19:01] cool, don't sweat the extra slots [19:01] don't feel like you need to fill them [19:01] jcastro just give me a few mins [19:01] they are bonus [19:01] jono: no worries [19:02] thanks, pal [19:16] jono: welcome back! [19:18] Conspirary theorists might argue that the horsemen are planning their vacation on after another so at least one of them have to deal with the other's action items :p [19:18] jcastro, jono ^^ [19:18] ;) [19:18] nigelb: haha. that's fabulous :P [19:19] Pendulum: :) [19:20] Pendulum: doesnt every organization work like that? ;) or do we want all of them on vacation at the same time :p [19:20] oops nigelb ^ .. [19:21] vish: No, we want them not taking vacations :p [19:21] heh [19:21] yeah, I was the only person who took their full holiday time at my last job [19:21] oh I did too [19:21] I took my 21 days plus a further 9 [19:22] Anyway, bedtime. Later. [19:22] nigelb: nn [19:22] * AlanBell likes being the boss [19:22] vacation allowances are things that happen to other people [19:22] and there were only really 4 of us in the office that did the same job so things were quite spread out [19:23] AlanBell: thanks for rubbing that in :P [19:57] Pendulum: heh, in Belgium it's almost mandatory to take your full vacation time ;) [19:57] JanC: paid or unpaid? [19:58] paid [19:58] in the US no one has to even offer paid vacation time [19:58] or paid sick time [19:59] if you work during your legally granted vacation time, they have to pay you a lot extra [19:59] (the no paid sick leave is becoming a bigger issue, though, because when everyone got scared about swine flu they started realising that people who don't get paid for sick time often can't afford to take time off even when they're really sick) [19:59] (I'm not sure why this was a new thought) [20:01] sick time is paid by your employer for the 1st week to month here, after that you get paid a minimum income by the mandatory social security [20:01] heh [20:03] basic social security insurance is mandatory here... [20:04] and regulated by the government [20:07] AlanBell: pay at all is something that happens to other people, no? [20:07] doctormo: yeah, there is that! [20:08] although we have started paying a regular salary now [20:08] AlanBell: To who? lol, not to me. [20:09] our payroll only goes to people called Alan [20:10] hardcoded firstname ftw [20:11] AlanBell: Ah hell, does that mean you'll be hiring Alan Pope? [20:12] Did I ever mention I hate flies... [20:15] doctormo: there is no currently active recruitment process involving Alan Pope. [20:16] jussi: What would you prefer? [20:16] doctormo: no flies... [20:17] * AlanBell passes jussi some big spiders [20:17] AlanBell: huntsmen? yes please [20:17] jussi: Would you like jars and beans? [20:28] doctormo: i found this ubuntu page for wizardpen https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TabletSetupWizardpen [20:29] doctormo: is there a better page to understand which tablet i should get if i wish to acquire a tablet ? [20:29] jcastro: User CP -> Options -> visible Post Elements -> disable "show Signatures" [20:29] open question for the channel follows: [20:29] technoviking: I know how to turn it off for me [20:29] I mean by default [20:29] can anyone suggest how to acquire help for updating the Ubuntu Studio Drupal website ? [20:30] i've tried ubuntu forums, the ubuntustudio-users mail list ...with extremely limited success [20:31] scott-work: did anyone take over for Cory? [20:31] technoviking: in which capacity? as studio lead? [20:32] scott-work: yeah [20:33] technoviking: ah, yes, that would be me :) [20:33] scott-work: doh, sorry [20:33] technoviking: lol ;) [20:34] heh [20:34] it was handy when lusibg was over here we ju'd poke him with issues [20:34] to be honest, i'm ready to go to the drupal forums and ask for some kindly, gentle soul to take pity on me [20:35] i've had several offers of help to develop a website based on word press but i've been told through the grapevine that word press is verboten [20:37] scott-work: are you on twitter? if so ask @forbairt for some advice, he themes all my sites with WP and latest one is a wiki but all others are wp [20:39] czajkowski: thank you for the tip, however, ubuntustudio.org is hosted on Canonical servers and i've been told only drupal sites are allowed due to security concerns :( [20:39] ahhhh [20:39] scott-work: *hugs* [20:41] czajkowski: thank you [20:42] however, if i can't find someone willing to help out with update the drupal site I might resort to pay out of my own pocket to host the site elsewhere and use word press then :/ [20:42] scott-work: hey [20:42] scott-work: what kind of hosting do you need? [20:43] (sorry I also have no context :) ) [20:43] highvoltage: for this: http://ubuntustudio.org/ [20:43] highvoltage: currently using drupal as CMS but possibly moving to word press [20:44] scott-work: cool [20:44] scott-work: why would you need other hosting? doesn't canonical host that? [20:45] highvoltage: it does, but we would really like to update the website, which is currently in drupal, and we are having trouble finding someone to effect it [20:46] highvoltage: we have had offers to do a complete makeover using word press but apparently word press can not be used on canonical servers [20:46] scott-work: are the people who told you that aware that markshuttleworth.com runs on wordpress (hosted at canonical), as well as the Canonical blog itself? And also soon the Ubuntu Fridge? [20:46] scott-work: WordPress rock [20:47] also, wordpress is easier to keep up to date. lots of drupal sites (ubuntu studio is an example) don't get updated and become horribly insecure anyway [20:47] highvoltage: i would presume not (aware that *.com runs on wordpress) [20:48] ubuntu.com is on drupal [20:48] i think a follow up series of emails is most likely in order then :) [20:48] I think a lot of people have tried to tackle this before [20:49] highvoltage: i had noticed this http://uds.ubuntu.com/ several days ago as well (which is wordpress) [20:49] it shouldn't be that hard, I revampted the edubuntu site recently and getting the permissions I need wasn't hard [20:49] I just filed tickets on RT for everything I required [20:49] and then poked some people in #canonical-sysadmin now and again [20:50] highvoltage: i notice that the edubuntu website seems to pull data from wiki.ubuntu.com but reformats it (presumably with css), are you responsible for that? [20:50] scott-work: I can understand why some people don't like it, but to say that it's forbidden when some prominent sites run it, and even when new ones are being set up to do so sounds kind of like a double-standard [20:51] scott-work: that's not what it does, it's a drupal site :) [20:51] highvoltage: agreed (double standards) [20:51] highvoltage: but it seems to mirror what is on wiki.ubuntu.com; it even has the ubuntu studio meeting notes [20:52] scott-work: you're probably on the wrong site then ;) [20:52] scott-work: http://edubuntu.org [20:52] highvoltage: sorry, wrong site LOL [20:52] https://wiki.edubuntu.org/UbuntuStudio/Meetings [20:52] yep, that's the wiki [20:53] my bad, but your website does look extremely nice :) [20:53] * scott-work desires one as nice ;) [20:54] highvoltage: forgive my ignorance, but what is RT? [20:54] request ticket [20:54] scott-work: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserPreferences there are a list of themes available, if you access the wiki via edubuntu.org it applies the edubuntu theme [20:54] same for kubuntu [20:55] scott-work: https://rt.ubuntu.com/ [20:55] scott-work: I can recomment starting with a professional theme. I bought the mynxx theme from rockettheme (http://demo.rockettheme.com/drupal/?theme=mynxx) for the edubuntu site and just modified it for purpose [20:55] scott-work: login ubuntu pwd ubuntu and log tickets there [20:55] wow! thank you all for the responses :) [20:55] scott-work: tis a helpful channel alright :) [20:56] scott-work: I recommend that you actually email your ticket, it makes it clearer who logged the request, rt@ubuntu.com [20:56] scott-work: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-website themes for drupal, wordpress, django [20:58] AlanBell: you are part of the Ubuntu UK Podcast, no? [20:58] nope [20:58] i am [20:58] ^^ he is [20:58] the pope of ubuntu [20:58] !popey [20:58] Factoid 'popey' not found [20:58] whut!! [20:59] only exists in -uk [21:00] i knew that popey was, but he wasn't in the last episode that i listend to though [21:00] i wasnt? [21:00] i'm two episodes back [21:01] ah [21:02] i was in all of the last 8 or so [21:02] http://podcast.ubuntu-uk.org/ all of the ones listed on that front page :) [21:03] http://www.flickr.com/photos/codedragon/sets/72157624005309900/ them lot are the podcasters [21:03] :) [21:04] :) [21:04] i just started S03E13 - Three Wise Fools and i thought you were missing from that one (it's late at night in the garden) [21:05] heh, my garden :) [21:06] LOL me=fail then [21:06] in fact the opening line is me saying "welcome to my house" :D [21:08] i thought it was proverbial, not literal :P [21:10] scott-work: Get a wacom if you want it to work, get a wizardpen if you want to save yourself some money and declare holy war on wizardpen drivers as a missing feature. [21:10] That wiki page needs updating, it's a bit old. [21:10] Hopefully I'll have more time for podcasts now that I'll be going to the gym again [21:53] jcastro, ping [21:55] don't ping, just ask [21:56] I need the script for the stackexchange stats [21:56] and the command to run it [22:00] one sec [22:00] jcastro, thanks! [22:00] http://meta.ubuntu.stackexchange.com/questions/290/can-someone-whip-up-a-quick-script-for-uwn [22:00] grab the bottom one [22:00] the "Edit 15" one [22:00] put it in a file [22:01] call it whatever.py [22:01] then run "python whatever.py" [22:01] then paste. :) [22:01] roger that - thanks [22:01] * AlanBell watches akgraner turn into a python hacker [22:01] akgraner: you can make it a panel applet [22:01] for the win [22:01] :-) [22:02] Oh you two [22:02] AlanBell, :-p === kim0_3G is now known as kim0_vacation [22:15] jcastro, I got this error - Traceback (most recent call last): [22:15] File "./stackstats.py", line 24, in [22:15] os.popen('xsel', 'wb').write(output) [22:15] UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode character u'\xe6' in position 1684: ordinal not in range(128) [22:15] but the information before that seems correct [22:16] akgraner, you're not using utf it looks like === paultag_ is now known as paultag [22:17]