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OmegaI would like to request ubottu for #ubuntu-tour00:29
nhainesjpds: Omega is requesting ubot4 to #ubuntu-tour ^^00:34
OmegaThank you sir.00:35
=== SpockVulcan is now known as AndrewMC
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AndrewMCcan i request the logbot for #ubuntu-youth17:53
AndrewMCplease17:54
erUSULis a core channel ? loco ?17:57
* gnomefreak didnt know there was a youth channel17:57
jpdsAndrewMC: No.17:57
zkriessebonjouro17:57
zkriesseI was asked to join by AndrewMC, what's up17:58
jpdsLogging a youth channel sounds like a Bad Idea™.17:59
erUSULjpds: well he can certainly request it ... and you can certainly deny it ;) . giving a reason would be also nice ...17:59
jpdsFor similiar reasons to why we don't log -offtopic.17:59
zkriessejpds: One, most of the folks in #ubuntu-youth are Young Adults, two: it's an official team so logging it is not a bad idea imo18:00
* jpds delagates to Pici / topyli / nhandler / tsimpson / jussi.18:02
gnomefreaksince it has #ubuntu i dont see why a log bot cant be in there18:06
jpdsgnomefreak: Random dribbling of randomness by a bunch of young people, cool.18:07
gnomefreak:)18:07
jpdsDo Not Want Logged for their sakes.18:07
topylii have no issues with it, except that i don't know the bots very well so i'll shut up18:07
zkriessejpds: Ok I'm going to say one thing. If you don't like the, " Random dribbling of randomness by a bunch of young people" why the heck are you even in the channel?18:08
topyliafaik the youth project has objectives beyond random dribbling too18:08
jpdszkriesse: I'm OK with it, I'm just not sure the others would want to be publicly logged.18:09
jpdsReducio ad absurdum.18:09
jpdsDamn, wrong one.18:10
phillwHi fil18:11
gnomefreakhi18:11
phillwHi folks, a little while back I sent an email off asking for a log-bot on #lubuntu but never heard anything back :-(18:12
* phillw scared as recognises some of the names on here :)18:13
m4vthe only loggin bots I know are the locobots and ubuntulog, the locobots are ugly, for request ubuntulog you need to ask it in rt@ubuntu.com18:13
phillwm4v: is that for the bot same as on #ubuntu-beginners?18:13
gnomefreaki didnt get a memo but is today logbot day?18:14
topyliheh18:15
phillwgnomefreak: it was them discussing it on #ubuntu-youth that reminded me that I sent a request in at the end of July.18:15
m4vphillw: they might take a while18:16
gnomefreakis this something that should be brought up at a council meeting?18:16
* m4v got a ubuntulog in #ubuntu-es-locos 3 months after he requested it18:16
phillwalanbell kindly gave us a meeting-bot, but as lubuntu is still not adopted by canonical, although supported on the forums etc. I was wondering when / if we would get a decission?18:18
gnomefreakall official locos should have one IMHO18:18
phillwI'll ask drubin next time he is about as to if I filed the request correctly and to the correct place. Thanks for your time in answering.18:23
m4vphillw: I sent 3 requests and got the bot 3 months later, don't hold your breath :P18:24
phillw10/10/10 is fast approaching, as the lubuntu team is small, it would really be a big help to us if we could get it by then.18:27
phillwm4v: who did you request it from? I'm not even sure if I asked the correct people to consider it.18:28
gnomefreakIRCC i think has to approve it18:28
jussihi all18:29
gnomefreakhi jussi18:29
jussibot master is here18:29
m4vI only sent the request to rt@ubuntu.com18:29
gnomefreak:)18:29
jussiphillw: did you send a request for a locobot or ubuntulog?18:29
jussiAndrewMC: what is the purpose of #ubuntu-youth?18:30
phillwI asked for same bot as is on #ubuntu-beginners18:30
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jussiphillw: right, and by what method did you ask?18:30
phillwwas a while back, but I emailed someone, unfortunately that part of the email system is 'down' (Thank-you google mail), and I don't have the exact details18:31
phillwI only have my records of the team agreeing to having a log-bot on the channel.18:32
jussiphillw: ok, please re-request a bot from rt@ubuntu.com18:32
phillwthanks jussi18:32
jussithey are now usually pretty prompt, so give it about a week, unless they are busy18:33
phillwI'll forward on the email of the team agreeing to it, which should save a little time :-)18:33
erUSUL!sysinfo18:35
gnomefreak?18:36
erUSULsysinfo is <reply>Nobody here gives a d**** about your system specs. Please do not spam the channel with that script.18:38
erUSUL:P18:38
jussihrm, I thought we had a factoid for that...18:42
erUSUL!search sysinfo18:42
ubottuFound: sysinfo-#ubuntuforums18:42
jussisysinfo-#ubuntuforums18:42
jussi!sysinfo-#ubuntuforums18:42
ubottuPlease do not use sysinfo scripts in this channel. Doing so will result in a warning then ban.18:42
jussisysinfo can be useful in #ubuntu, if you wnat to quickly tell your specs.18:43
jussierUSUL: where was it that you saw it annoyingly?18:43
erUSULjussi: not annoyingly only without reason in #ubuntu. just to show off18:44
jussihrm, yeah thats annoying18:44
jussibut its still useful in certain situations18:44
phillwthanks jussi, i've sent the email, so now will keep fingers crossed :-)  Thanks everyone for your time, much appreciated. :-)18:45
jussino probs :)18:45
erUSULjussi: i've never seen that used for a good reason in #ubuntu ( dunno other channels )18:46
jussierUSUL: I have...18:46
jussialthough the use of it has died out some.18:46
gnomefreakthey have scripts for that :)19:03
gnomefreakbut there should be a more right to the point as mine is too long for #ubuntu usage19:04
gnomefreakbrb smoke19:04
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AndrewMCjussi: sorry for the REALLY late reply but the purpose of Ubuntu Youth is to help them find their place in the community20:37
nhandlerAndrewMC: Why do you guys want logs? What benefit would they offer?20:41
zkriesseOk so why do we want logs?20:42
AndrewMCnhandler: sorry zkriesse is our leader i am one of his servents lol20:42
zkriesseAndrewMC: You're a co-leader...20:42
nhandlerzkriesse: What benefit would having public logs on irclogs.u.c provide?20:43
guntbertwho to poke about missing ubuntu-logs?20:43
zkriesseProvide logs to those who wish to read up on what they've missed20:43
zkriesseSay a meeting (Yes meetingology provides some logging but it's not perfect) there is a log that is public and people can read up on it20:44
nhandlerzkriesse: Yes, but is there anything in those logs that is beneficial or is it more social.20:44
zkriesseA meeting log?20:45
zkriesseOf course a meeting log is beneficial...and now that we're constantly discussing (starting to anyway) IRC ideas for teaching, wiki importance, packaging, it's beginning to hold key knowledge20:45
nhandlerzkriesse: I thought you had the meeting logs on the wiki. But I would strongly suggest going through your private logs (and talking to other members) to see if the benefits of public logs outweign the costs. For more social channels, many people are uncomfortable with their discussions being public (it also serves very little benefit). For formal teaching stuff, if it does not take place in -classroom, it is useful to ...20:48
nhandler... pull the logs for that one session rather than making the whole channel publically logged. But in the end, it comes down to what the team wants and whether or not the canonical sysadmins are ok with it20:48
guntbertirclogs.ubuntu.com: the logbot apparently stopped yesterday 17:00 - who should be alerted?20:48
zkriesseOk forget it20:49
Tm_Trt@ubuntu.com guntbert20:49
guntberttm_: thx20:50
Tm_Tor, umm, /whois ubuntulog20:50
Tm_Tor what's the logbot20:50
Omegaubuntulo120:50

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