[00:04] <jenkins> night all
[01:04] <Muscovy> Since it would make Quickshot far easier, is there a way to cycle the quickshot user through each system language for each screenshot?
[07:23] <bilalakhtar> humphreybc: hey! Why did you deactivate my membership in Ohso?
[11:01] <ChrisWoollard> morning all
[11:01] <nisshh> hey ChrisWoollard :)
[11:02] <ChrisWoollard> Hey nish.
[11:02] <ChrisWoollard> or rather nisshh
[11:02] <nisshh> hehe
[11:02] <nisshh> ChrisWoollard: im upgrading to maverick beta, gonna see how it goes
[11:02] <ChrisWoollard> I just commited a fix for bad enlish on you dev manual ;)
[11:03] <nisshh> ChrisWoollard: oh, cool thanks.
[11:04] <ChrisWoollard> When is that going to be released?
[11:04] <nisshh> well
[11:04] <nisshh> we were hoping for maverick
[11:04] <nisshh> but it doesnt look good
[11:04] <nisshh> so looks like we will have to plan to get a release out for 10.04
[11:04] <nisshh> i mean 11.04
[11:06] <ChrisWoollard> Ok
[11:06] <ChrisWoollard> I do even wonder if we will get this manual out on time
[11:07] <nisshh> its going to be close, thats all im saying :)
[11:08] <ChrisWoollard> We have already missed the writing freeze haven't we?
[11:09] <nisshh> ChrisWoollard: actually, i dont know
[11:09] <nisshh> ChrisWoollard: i cant remember the dates
[11:12] <ChrisWoollard> It was 10th September
[11:12] <nisshh> ah yea
[15:48] <flan> If anyone noticed, please ask Muscovy to ping me when he gets on.
[15:48] <flan> notices*
[17:30] <nisshh> rickspencer3: hey, have you done any work on shortening the python chapter for the dev manual?
[17:32] <rickspencer3> nisshh, nah, sorry man
[17:32] <rickspencer3> super duper busy these days :(
[17:33] <nisshh> rickspencer3: yea, i know the feeling
[17:33] <rickspencer3> :)
[17:33] <nisshh> rickspencer3: also, thanks heaps for that work on Pytask, that is going to save me hours of figuring stuff out :)
[17:34] <rickspencer3> nisshh, np
[17:34] <nisshh> :)
[19:19] <shaunm> any quickshot people around?
[19:23] <vish> flan: ^^
[22:29] <jenkins> godbyk: ping
[22:32] <ChrisWoollard> evening Jenkins
[22:32] <jenkins> hey ChrisWoollard
[22:32] <jenkins> ChrisWoollard: ! do you know about screenshots fo this release?
[22:33] <ChrisWoollard> not really. I guess we should collect some new ones if required
[22:33] <jenkins> well the theme is different so they all need to be redone. I have NO clue which ones are leaving/gaining this release
[22:34] <ChrisWoollard> I did hear rumours that the wallpaper may not be the final version either.
[22:35] <jenkins> so did i
[22:35] <ChrisWoollard> I so hope so. It looks like a youth has put orange spray paint on my desktop
[22:36] <ChrisWoollard> according to http://humphreybc.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/dev-infographic.png
[22:36] <ChrisWoollard> screenshots are to be done around the 30th
[22:37] <jenkins> they would take me a couple of hours the install ones are the hard ones
[22:37] <ChrisWoollard> So maybe an agenda item should  be added to the meeting regarding screenshots
[22:37] <jenkins> smart idea
[22:37]  * jenkins is not very awake atm
[22:37] <ChrisWoollard> I'll add it
[22:38] <jenkins> I will do my best to make it real life is taking over so much
[22:38] <ChrisWoollard> I know the feeling. I have spent ages reading the updated ubuntone / rhthmbox chapters. now i am sleepy.
[22:39] <ChrisWoollard> I have had the same problem. I missed about 2/3 weeks because of real life.
[22:39] <jenkins> I can't wait to get back to uni and have more time for ubuntu
[22:41] <ChrisWoollard> :)
[22:41] <jenkins> but I will miss all my scouts stuff :(
[22:42] <ChrisWoollard> Agenda updated
[22:42] <jenkins> ta
[22:46] <ChrisWoollard> ncluded Ubuntu 10.10 release, is uTouch 1.0, Ubuntu’s new multi-touch and gesture stack.
[22:47] <ChrisWoollard> that is an extract from the manual
[22:47] <ChrisWoollard> Can you think of a better term other than stack?
[22:47] <jenkins> included*
[22:48] <ChrisWoollard> :)
[22:48] <jenkins> ability recognition just thinking of words
[22:48] <ChrisWoollard> framework
[22:48] <jenkins> tool
[22:48] <jenkins> framework works
[22:48] <jenkins> feature?
[22:48] <ChrisWoollard> or maybe
[22:49]  * jenkins chris writes a long word
[22:49] <ChrisWoollard> s/Ubuntu’s new multi-touch and gesture stack/This adds multi-touch and gesture support to Ubuntu
[22:50] <jenkins> second one is loads better
[22:51] <ChrisWoollard> I might actually re-write the whole paragraph.
[22:51] <ChrisWoollard> simplicity is the way forward
[22:52] <jenkins> i agree,
[22:53] <ChrisWoollard> I love how people put comments in the tex files saying that they wrote that bit.
[22:55] <jenkins> I only did it at the top of mine because everyone else was. Are people doing it for senteces/paragraphs?
[22:55] <ChrisWoollard> yes
[22:56] <ChrisWoollard> mostly paragraphs
[22:56] <jenkins> interesting
[22:56] <jenkins> nothing against it
[22:56] <godbyk> I'll be sure to annotate each sentence I touch with my name.
[22:56] <jenkins> lol
[22:56] <jenkins> hey godbyk
[22:57] <godbyk> hey, jenkins
[22:57] <godbyk> upgrade to TL2010 yet? :)
[22:57] <ChrisWoollard> I hope those comments don't get into the pdf
[22:57] <jenkins> got your e-mail, I am happy to keep maitaing the ppa I will have to remember how to do it. I pulled the last ppa as it was owend by the giant team we had. I will work on it for the week end
[22:57] <godbyk> ChrisWoollard: As long as they're actually comments, they won't.
[22:57] <godbyk> jenkins: cool
[22:58] <godbyk> Less work for me is always a good thing. :-)
[22:58] <jenkins> I am unsure if it will work though, as the maintainers have not updated it in debian and I don't know if they have to modify the packaging stuff
[22:58] <jenkins> I will get back into it properly next year but stuff like this i can do ocasionally
[22:59] <godbyk> Next year?
[23:01] <jenkins> when i start uni and have more time to dedicate like i could last release.
[23:01] <jenkins> latex ppa i can fit in maintaing here and there
[23:01] <ChrisWoollard> What do you think
[23:01] <ChrisWoollard> "New to Ubuntu in the 10.10 release, is uTouch 1.0. This feature adds multi-touch and gesture supporton supported hardware such as touchpads, touchscreen monitorsi, and tablets. Touch is included in all three releases of Ubuntu, the Ubuntu Netbook, Desktop and Light."
[23:02] <jenkins> space between support and on
[23:02] <ChrisWoollard> spotted that already. Thanks
[23:02] <jenkins> monitors no i
[23:03] <jenkins> uTouch is included ?
[23:03] <godbyk> We prefer serial commas.
[23:03] <godbyk> You probably don't need the comma in the first sentence.
[23:03] <godbyk> 'support on supported' is kind of awkward.
[23:03] <jenkins> light editions." ?
[23:03] <godbyk> multi-touch could probably be closed up.
[23:03] <jenkins> at the end
[23:04] <godbyk> perhaps a colon instead of a comma to introduce the list at the end?
[23:04] <ChrisWoollard> wow. that was more comments than i expected
[23:04] <jenkins> its a good sentence chris, we are giving constructive comments i hope
[23:05] <ChrisWoollard> next time i will spell check it first
[23:05] <jenkins> lol, sorry. I am not usually good at spelling
[23:05] <godbyk> last sentence: should it be 'uTouch is included..'?
[23:05] <jenkins> said that :P
[23:05] <jenkins> don't know the answer
[23:05] <godbyk> ah, damn. didn't see that one. sorry, jenkins. :)
[23:06] <jenkins> np
[23:06] <ChrisWoollard> I think it is included. I am fairly sure that it will change again in the next version due to a disagreement with gnome and canonical
[23:07] <ChrisWoollard> Maybe I will just get rid of the term uTouch. It is too compilcated for new people.
[23:08] <godbyk> It'd be nice if they'd stop coming up with new UIFes so we don't have to worry about 'em.
[23:08] <ChrisWoollard> i love vi
[23:08] <ChrisWoollard> :set spell
[23:08] <ChrisWoollard> thanks for that one godbyk
[23:09] <jenkins> utouch = touch support
[23:09] <godbyk> vi is awesome.
[23:15] <jenkins> yea so godbyk on the latex stuff i will set up a new ppa asap
[23:15] <jenkins> basically is the short story
[23:17] <godbyk> jenkins: no worries.
[23:17] <godbyk> For those who installed it manually, they can upgrade using tlmgr easily enough.
[23:17] <daker> hi
[23:18] <jenkins> how do you spell perminet as in having a fixed abode ?
[23:18] <jenkins> hey daker
[23:19] <ChrisWoollard> Ok. How about this
[23:19] <ChrisWoollard> New in Ubuntu 10.10 is multi-touch and gesture support. This allows you to utilize the latest multi-touch hardware with Ubuntu.
[23:19] <ChrisWoollard> it is plain and simple with spelling errors/
[23:20] <ChrisWoollard> I will get rid of the -'s though
[23:20] <jenkins> much more simple, how do you get it to work though?
[23:21] <ChrisWoollard> Good question.
[23:21] <ChrisWoollard> I have no idea.
[23:21] <ChrisWoollard> hopefully there are options in prefs or such like
[23:22]  * jenkins starts to try and find the setting
[23:26] <ChrisWoollard> It appears as a seperate package in the tree
[23:26] <ChrisWoollard> Maybe it only gets installed if you have the correct hardware?
[23:27] <ChrisWoollard> If only I had a cool mouse to play with
[23:28] <jenkins> what is this "input method switcher" http://img3.imagebanana.com/img/ivh11kna/InputMethodSwitcherver1.20ubuntu2_02.png what do any of the enties mean?
[23:28] <jenkins> (23:25:34) jenkins: *entries
[23:28] <jenkins> not a clue I don't have a touch screen
[23:30] <ChrisWoollard> We may need to find somebody that has a mac to test it and explain how it works?
[23:32] <ChrisWoollard> If i get time tomorrow I will try to talk to somebody.
[23:42] <jenkins> sorry  I got nothing after" We may need to find somebody that has a mac to test it and explain how it works?"
[23:43] <jenkins> did i miss much
[23:43] <jenkins> there is something about chromium/mavrick or my laptop that causes it to die halfway though using it
[23:43] <jenkins> I held my laptop out the window to get the wifi back as it is in the other part of the house
[23:49] <ChrisWoollard> i said
[23:49] <ChrisWoollard> If i get time tomorrow I will try to talk to somebody.
[23:53] <ChrisWoollard> goodnight
[23:53] <jenkins> night ChrisWoollard