[00:05] <chrisccoulson> micahg - oh, that makes sense
[00:05] <chrisccoulson> debian has a different name for the flash alternative
[00:06] <micahg> chrisccoulson: k, I'll look at the packaging later
[00:06] <chrisccoulson> thanks
[00:06] <micahg> chrisccoulson: quality is decent though
[00:06] <chrisccoulson> excellent
[00:07] <micahg> and you can have it full screen and work on the second one without it leaving full screen
[00:38] <BUGabundo> grrrrrr
[00:38] <BUGabundo> I can repetidly crash gmail
[00:38] <BUGabundo> while replying to an email with bullets
[00:38] <BUGabundo> and nothing shows in GDB :((((
[01:01] <fta> BUGabundo, -g --temp-profile --single-process
[01:02] <fta> and if you have the ubuntu fonts, that's know. there's already a bug about that
[01:02] <BUGabundo> yeah it crashes (snap) also on temp profile
[01:03] <BUGabundo> no idea on the fonts
[01:03] <BUGabundo> I have what ever MM gives me on that departement
[01:05] <fta> ok, i'm done writing the readme of my new project :)
[01:05] <fta> Flappy
[01:06] <BUGabundo> be afraid. be very afraid
[01:06] <BUGabundo> nite dear
[08:22] <fta> asac, hey, fyi, i had to disable neon in the arm builds of the ffmpeg codecs as no one offered any help
[08:30] <asac> fta: yeah
[08:30] <asac> fta: when did we enable that?
[08:31] <asac> in ubuntu we cant enable neon without ensuring that it falls back to non-neon
[08:31] <asac> if neon is not on board
[08:31] <fta> asac, never, but upstream has it by default now
[08:31] <fta> it doesn't seem to be a problem to build chromium but ffmpeg 0.6 ftbfs
[08:34] <asac> fta: building works because the builders have coincidentilaly NEON co processort
[08:34] <asac> fta: i thought we disabled it explicitly thouh
[08:34] <asac> fta: do you have a bug for the ftbfs?
[08:34] <fta> asac, no, and no one complained. maybe no one is using ch on arm
[08:35] <asac> fta: the amount of users of folks with boards that dont have neon is close to zero :)
[08:35] <asac> beagle etc. have neon
[08:35] <fta> bug 628924 has the details
[08:35] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 628924 in libvpx (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 11 other projects) "chromium update: 5.0.375.127 -> 6.0.472.53 (affects: 4) (dups: 1) (heat: 278)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/628924
[08:44] <fta> asac, let me know if you want me to fix that
[09:02] <asac> fta: ok seems its not a toolchain regression
[09:02] <asac> but rather upstream neon code bustage
[09:03] <asac> nothing we can really do there. just keep it disabled for ffmpeg for now
[09:03] <asac> thanks!!
[09:04] <fta> asac, well, if i understand neon correctly, it's pretty bad to not use it for decoding media stuff if your hw supports it
[09:04] <asac> fta: ack
[09:04] <asac> thats true
[09:05] <asac> fta: we will get a guy who could fix it soon
[09:05] <asac> but we dont have him yet ;)
[09:05] <fta> asac, ok, thanks
[09:08] <asac> fta: do you know if this is a  general ffmpeg upstrema issue?
[09:09] <fta> asac, it comes from the upstream tree so maybe siretart knows something about it, i don't
[10:39] <micahg> good morning chrisccoulson
[10:39] <chrisccoulson> hi micahg
[10:42] <chrisccoulson> hmmmm, thunderbird 3.0.8 and 3.1.4 already
[10:42] <micahg> chrisccoulson: yep, they're quick :)
[10:43] <micahg> chrisccoulson: I think we should push 3.1.4 to security PPA
[10:43] <chrisccoulson> but that's not for mozilla bug 594699?
[10:43] <ubot2> Mozilla bug 594699 in DOM: Core & HTML "startup crash [@ nsWindowWatcher::OpenWindowJSInternal(nsIDOMWindow*, char const*, char const*, char const*, int, nsIArray*, int, nsIDOMWindow**)] at safe to run script check" [Blocker,New] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=594699
[10:43] <chrisccoulson> so there might be another respin anyway
[10:43] <chrisccoulson> yeah, security PPA makes sense
[10:44] <micahg> chrisccoulson: yeah, for all 5 products
[10:53] <micahg> chrisccoulson: so, Debian is apparantly using flash-mozilla.so for the alternative, where we have 6 all something-flashplugin
[10:53] <micahg> gnash ^^
[10:54] <chrisccoulson> micahg - yeah, that's what i mentioned last night
[10:54] <chrisccoulson> that's not something we can change this close to release though :)
[10:55] <micahg> chrisccoulson: yeah, I can change the alternative though so it's installable, I'll look at what flashplugin-installer does
[10:55] <chrisccoulson> thanks
[10:55] <micahg> chrisccoulson: where's the lightning FFe bug?
[10:55] <chrisccoulson> micahg - bug 531867
[10:55] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 531867 in iceowl (Debian) (and 1 other project) "[FFe] [needs-packaging] Lightning 1.0 Beta for Thunderbird 3 (affects: 93) (dups: 5) (heat: 351)" [Unknown,Unknown] https://launchpad.net/bugs/531867
[10:56] <chrisccoulson> hmmm, somebody added a debian task
[10:56] <micahg> ah
[10:56] <micahg> chrisccoulson: are you trying for 3 or 3.1?
[10:57] <chrisccoulson> micahg - 3.1
[10:57] <micahg> chrisccoulson: k
[10:58] <micahg> chrisccoulson: are we reusing the source?
[10:58] <micahg> *package
[10:59] <chrisccoulson> micahg - the packaging is basically a re-write (although it's significantly simpler to what we had before)
[10:59] <chrisccoulson> i'll push it somewhere in a minute
[10:59] <micahg> chrisccoulson: k, I just was wondering about the na,me
[11:00] <chrisccoulson> micahg - i kept the same name for now
[11:00] <micahg> chrisccoulson: k
[11:01]  * micahg should've just uploaded empty packages to lucid then rather than remove :(
[11:01] <chrisccoulson> micahg - it also uses the thunderbird SDK, which means it builds in about 2 minutes :)
[11:02] <micahg> chrisccoulson: that rocks :)
[11:03] <micahg> chrisccoulson: I'll work on the gnash update on my ride in to $WORK later today
[11:04] <micahg> mediatomb can wait another day or 2
[11:04] <chrisccoulson> micahg - cool, thanks
[11:05]  * micahg might try another UDD merge
[11:06] <chrisccoulson> huh, "/usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9.2.9/xulrunner-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libsqlite3.so.0: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32"
[11:06] <chrisccoulson> on bug 636806
[11:06] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 636806 in xulrunner-1.9.2 (Ubuntu) "package xulrunner-1.9.2 1.9.2.9 build1 nobinonly-0ubuntu0.10.04.1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 127 (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/636806
[11:07] <chrisccoulson> people really do like breaking their systems
[11:07] <micahg> heh
[11:16] <chrisccoulson> lightning is taking ages to upload on my connection :/
[11:16] <chrisccoulson> the source is currently the whole of comm-1.9.2, just like thunderbird, which isn't too good
[11:16] <chrisccoulson> i'm not sure whether we can clean out the bits we don't need before we pack the tarballs
[11:21] <micahg> chrisccoulson: well, did you remove the mozilla-1.9.2 part of the checkout?
[11:21] <chrisccoulson> micahg - not yet. i suppose i could do that now it's using thunderbird to build
[11:23] <micahg> then it'll take 2 minutes to upload too :)
[12:06] <chrisccoulson> micahg - oh, it seems like the lightning build still needs some parts of the embedded mozilla-1.9.2 tree
[12:07] <chrisccoulson> like the text preprocessor
[12:18] <chrisccoulson> micahg - i put the lightning packaging on http://people.canonical.com/~chrisccoulson/
[13:07] <chrisccoulson> hi mdeslaur, can i have a USN for thunderbird 3.0.8 please :)
[13:07] <mdeslaur> chrisccoulson: sure, hold on
[13:07] <chrisccoulson> thanks
[13:08] <mdeslaur> chrisccoulson: 986-1
[13:08] <chrisccoulson> mdeslaur, thanks
[13:08] <mdeslaur> np
[13:56] <fta> asac, kees, jdstrand_ : new stable chromium ftbfs on armel/karmic.. most probably related to the hardening thing: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/55522699/buildlog_ubuntu-maverick-armel.chromium-browser_6.0.472.55~r58392-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[13:57] <fta> it's a minor upgrade (.53 -> .55), and the pie hardening was (almost) the only packaging change
[14:07] <jdstrand_> fta: re webm v flash> webm-- I didn't have flash installed
[14:08] <fta> jdstrand_, ok, good
[14:32] <fta> jdstrand_, once again, nothing i can do to solve the above issue, except blindly disabling the hardening on arm and pray for the best
[14:33] <jdstrand_> fta: can you wait for kees' input?
[14:33] <fta> jdstrand_, sure
[15:56] <kees> fta: hmmm. it looks like they're calling ld directly instead of using CXX; that can sometimes confuse things.
[15:58] <fta> maybe, they often switch between ld and ld gold
[16:08] <fta> kees, ^^, this comes from gyp. the magic is somewhere in there: http://code.google.com/p/gyp/source/browse/trunk/pylib/gyp/generator/make.py
[16:10] <fta> kees, rebuilding in verbose mode would probably be helpful (VERBOSE=1 in my d/rules) but i don't have access to any arm builder
[17:49] <gnomefreak> if i import contacts.csv will it over write the addresses i have already?
[17:50] <gnomefreak> ^^^ for tb
[18:47] <kees> fta: did only armel ftbfs for 6.0.472.55 ?
[18:48] <fta> kees, yes: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/6.0.472.55~r58392-0ubuntu1
[18:49] <kees> fta: I will poke at it. arm-specific failure seems really odd in this case.
[19:03] <kees> fta: since it takes 14 hours to build, let's do this for now:
[19:03] <kees>  # Don't build on armel because it's broken and we're already past beta
[19:03] <kees>  ifeq (,$(filter armel,$(DEB_BUILD_ARCH)))
[19:03] <kees> etc
[19:04] <fta> kees, yep, that was my plan if no one comes up with a solution
[19:04] <kees> i.e. we're already past beta, and it's going to take a while for me to track this down. but since it works fine on i386/amd64, let's leave those as-is.
[19:04] <kees> okay, cool
[19:06] <fta> it also means i have to make yet another update in both maverick and lucid...
[19:06] <fta> worth checking with upstream if they have another stable release in the pipe
[19:11] <kees> fta: yeah, that was my concern -- this is creating a giant turn-around time due to the ARM compile times, so for now let's just ditch it on arm, and I'll continue trying to hunt it down. (I've started a build on an armel machine I have access to.)
[19:12] <fta> kees, do it with VERBOSE=1 so it's easier for you to debug
[19:13] <kees> oh yeah, good point
[19:14]  * kees restarts
[19:20] <fta> (remember it's huge)
[20:40] <chrisccoulson> [reed] - you there?
[20:59] <chrisccoulson> micahg - have you seen http://blog.mozilla.com/mwu/2010/09/10/extensions-now-installed-packed/ ?
[21:00] <micahg> chrisccoulson: yes, I saw that, should speed up load time
[21:00] <chrisccoulson> i should start making a list of all the things we need to consider for next cycle
[21:00] <micahg> chrisccoulson: yeah, add them to the blueprint
[21:00] <chrisccoulson> we'll need to fix mozilla-devscripts for that one
[21:00] <chrisccoulson> yeah, i'll start adding a list later
[21:01] <micahg> chrisccoulson: k
[21:37] <kancerman> how do I re-enable flash when it tells me 3rd party storage is disabled ??
[22:14] <fta> jdstrand, you got your ack for the ch 5->6 update
[22:14] <jdstrand> fta: yep. I already copied it :)
[22:14] <jdstrand> fta: I pestered people a bit for the ack ;)
[22:14] <fta> jcastro, hi, could you do something about http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=51243 ? (last few comments)
[22:14] <jdstrand> well, more just ot look at the bug, not to convince them of the need to ack
[22:15] <fta> jdstrand, good, thanks
[22:15] <fta> *sigh* no time to work on my new project today :(
[22:16] <jdstrand> :(
[22:19] <fta> i wonder if my project description makes sense: http://paste.ubuntu.com/492972/
[22:20] <jcastro> fta: ohhai, I was just looking for you
[22:20] <jcastro> fta: did someone ever get you an answer wrt. daily build resources?
[22:21] <jcastro> fta: ok so agl needs the font?
[22:21] <fta> jcastro, nope, no one. build resources come and go, i suffer with the crowd
[22:22] <fta> jcastro, yep, lots of people got this crash, all had the ubuntu font installed. but i don't have them, neither has upstream
[22:22] <jcastro> oh, you don't either? ok one sec
[22:23] <jcastro> do you know if agl has an lp account offhand?
[22:23] <jcastro> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-typeface-interest
[22:23] <jcastro> you this team please
[22:23] <fta> jcastro, there's also a problem with ARM builds, i can't test build or debug anything, so i discover issues/regressions only when it's too late
[22:24] <fta> jdstrand, not sure if agl has one, evan sure does. let me check
[22:24] <fta> oops
[22:24] <fta> jcastro, ^^
[22:24] <jcastro> ok
[22:25] <jcastro> I'll add evan on the list too just in case
[22:25] <jcastro> let me just find him in #chromium
[22:26] <fta> (just asked him)
[22:49] <fta> jdstrand, remember .55 ftbfs on arm. i will disable it (*) in the next upgrade (either ubuntu2, or if there's a new version shortly). (*) unless kees is able to find a fix
[22:49] <fta> it = PIE