| gryman | Anyone know how often launchpad updates the bzr data? | 00:18 |
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| Muscovy | The revision list? | 00:21 |
| gryman | yeah | 00:22 |
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| gryman | Trying to make sure I'm adding to the right place, but my commits don't show up | 00:22 |
| Muscovy | Only a minute or two. | 00:23 |
| Muscovy | Where did you push to? | 00:23 |
| gryman | I never did a push, just commits | 00:24 |
| Muscovy | pushing is the actual upload. | 00:26 |
| gryman | I see, what does commit do? | 00:27 |
| Omega | Uh | 00:27 |
| Omega | ohai | 00:27 |
| gryman | Or perhaps more importantly, is there anything I need to do before a push to make sure I won't wipe out some other changes? | 00:29 |
| Muscovy | Nope. | 00:30 |
| gryman | bzr push lp:ubuntu-tour, right? | 00:30 |
| gryman | I'm just working on content | 00:30 |
| Muscovy | Yes. | 00:30 |
| gryman | ok | 00:30 |
| gryman | bzr: ERROR: These branches have diverged. See "bzr help diverged-branches" for more information. | 00:31 |
| Muscovy | Run bzr merge. | 00:31 |
| gryman | ugh | 00:35 |
| Omega | We should get a bot soon. | 00:35 |
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| AndrewMC | Omega: may i PM you? | 00:37 |
| Omega | Yes you may, sir. | 00:37 |
| Muscovy | gryman: Did it work ok? | 00:55 |
| gryman | Yeah, I ended up pulling down a new branch and then moving my changes over | 00:56 |
| gryman | Mine was a bit out of date | 00:56 |
| Muscovy | brz merge will do that automatically. | 00:56 |
| gryman | There was conflicts | 00:57 |
| Muscovy | Ah. | 00:57 |
| gryman | Someone made ubuntu-one and I still have ubuntuone, etc | 00:57 |
| gryman | Now it's all current | 00:57 |
| Muscovy | My fault for that one I fear. :P | 00:58 |
| gryman | hehe | 00:58 |
| MadnessRed | i made ubuntu-one, sorry, someone asked for it to be changed | 00:58 |
| Muscovy | For some reason, only page 1 of Ubuntu One is being displayed on the main branch. | 01:12 |
| gryman | Did you try going back and then next? | 01:13 |
| gryman | Or go back twice | 01:14 |
| Muscovy | Just topic select, then next. | 01:14 |
| gryman | Might be because there's no page 0 | 01:14 |
| gryman | actually there is | 01:14 |
| Muscovy | Yeah. | 01:15 |
| gryman | Looks like it's starting on page 1 and not 0 | 01:15 |
| Muscovy | It's starting on 0 for me. | 01:15 |
| Muscovy | Um. | 01:16 |
| gryman | Looks like it calls 0 1 | 01:17 |
| gryman | and when you hit next it goes to 2, which isn't there | 01:17 |
| gryman | and when you go back it goes to 1, but it calls the real 1 | 01:17 |
| Muscovy | Inserting a 2 shows the 2. | 01:18 |
| gryman | Here's what I see | 01:19 |
| gryman | ubuntu one | 01:19 |
| gryman | 0 | 01:19 |
| gryman | change section | 01:19 |
| gryman | Could not find en_US using en | 01:19 |
| gryman | 1 | 01:19 |
| gryman | next | 01:19 |
| gryman | 1 | 01:19 |
| gryman | get_next | 01:19 |
| gryman | Could not find en_US using en | 01:19 |
| gryman | 2 | 01:19 |
| gryman | back | 01:19 |
| gryman | 2 | 01:19 |
| gryman | get_next | 01:19 |
| gryman | Could not find en_US using en | 01:19 |
| gryman | 1 | 01:19 |
| Muscovy | I'm not too worried, since that is the old code anyways. | 01:19 |
| gryman | They all do that | 01:21 |
| gryman | You have to click back first once on a new section | 01:22 |
| MadnessRed | odd, do you have the newest code | 01:22 |
| MadnessRed | because the newest code doesn't output text to start with unless you set debug to 1 | 01:22 |
| Muscovy | MadnessRed, we're talking about the main branch, not the code one. | 01:24 |
| MadnessRed | ok | 01:25 |
| MadnessRed | then I wouldn't worry about errors in the code there, a lot has changed | 01:25 |
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| celsojunior | hi | 01:59 |
| mast` | hello | 02:01 |
| Muscovy | I can't seem to add images to the tour. | 02:15 |
| fieldse | greetings. Do we have any senior project members here? | 02:35 |
| fieldse | Senior-ish? | 02:35 |
| fieldse | muscovy, popey - when you get back, are either of you two project leaders for this? | 02:57 |
| laurent_ | What is the default maverick icon theme? | 02:57 |
| fieldse | I've set up a wiki page for the volunteers list, when someone with authority to do so comes around, I'd like to get approval for it. | 02:57 |
| fieldse | laurent_, hi. | 02:57 |
| laurent_ | hi | 02:57 |
| fieldse | IDK, let me check and see what I've got | 02:57 |
| laurent_ | is it humanity | 02:58 |
| laurent_ | My system is an upgrade not a fresh install and I have been using Faenza as the default icon set since it came out | 02:58 |
| fieldse | Ack, just realized I'm on my Karmic system. | 03:01 |
| fieldse | I think it's humanity | 03:01 |
| fieldse | My Maverick system is down for repair, since I was banging on it to get the cpu fan unstuck. =/ | 03:01 |
| fieldse | laurent_, Mine also upgrade and not install - I was wondering about this, does it not change default themes, etc when you do this? | 03:02 |
| laurent_ | Also is there a way to pass variables from the python script in to the HTML of the documents | 03:02 |
| laurent_ | I'm adding icons to the firefox tour | 03:02 |
| laurent_ | showing the back buttons etc. | 03:02 |
| fieldse | That, I do not know. I just started learning python literally yesterday. | 03:02 |
| fieldse | Cool! | 03:02 |
| laurent_ | ideally I would use the python gettheme.py thing to send the paths | 03:02 |
| fieldse | This reads the GNOME theme config and sends back the results? | 03:03 |
| Muscovy | fieldse: I'm one of the leaders. | 03:04 |
| fieldse | laurent_, http://www.webupd8.org/2010/08/humanity-icon-theme-update-comes-in.html | 03:04 |
| Muscovy | Do you actually need administrative permission, or are you just asking? | 03:04 |
| fieldse | ^ on "humanity" theme | 03:04 |
| fieldse | Hey, muscovy - I am just asking to get it a look-over and approval to start directing people to this list to sign up. | 03:05 |
| Muscovy | URL please? | 03:05 |
| fieldse | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuTour/Volunteers | 03:06 |
| Muscovy | laurent_: Not sure what you're doing, but do you need the icons? We were probably going to use screenshots. | 03:06 |
| laurent_ | For the firefox page in code-development it explicitly labels the back forward reload buttons | 03:07 |
| laurent_ | I was linking in the icon | 03:07 |
| laurent_ | reinforces the message | 03:07 |
| Muscovy | Ok. | 03:10 |
| Muscovy | fieldse: Looks good. :D | 03:11 |
| Muscovy | I'll throw some links to the wiki on the main site after school tomorrow. | 03:11 |
| fieldse | Awesome. I would like to make a clearer way for someone to sign up for specific task from the to-do list but I don't want to clutter it up. I figure that as long as the volunteers start piling up on the list, then "project sector leaders" can send out a shout to their entire team list when they're ready to delegate. | 03:12 |
| Omega | same here | 03:12 |
| fieldse | Thanks! | 03:12 |
| Omega | sleepy time! | 03:12 |
| fieldse | Ho-kay, good night omega , thanks muscovy - I'll start emailing members from the list archive to sign up | 03:13 |
| fieldse | peace | 03:13 |
| gryman | Looks like the wiki is having login issues | 03:25 |
| kuroq | keyerror in tour.py | 04:08 |
| kuroq | http://paste.ubuntu.com/492880/ | 04:08 |
| fieldse | greetings. | 04:09 |
| aksharpatel47 | Getting unknowntimezoneerror while logging onto the ubuntu-tour wiki | 04:09 |
| fieldse | No login issues, I was just editing. | 04:09 |
| fieldse | Try again | 04:09 |
| fieldse | There's already been 4 signups at the volunteers list, so it was probably just locked. | 04:09 |
| aksharpatel47 | It says its a bug | 04:10 |
| aksharpatel47 | and tells me to report the bug to moinmoin wiki | 04:10 |
| mast` | I started translating the available text to french, did anybody else sign up for this? | 04:11 |
| fieldse | Negative, we have no french translation signed up at the list yet. | 04:11 |
| fieldse | aksharpatel47, it may be a bug but I think it was just locked - Have you tried again? | 04:12 |
| mast` | good stuff. | 04:12 |
| fieldse | mast`, =) | 04:12 |
| aksharpatel47 | ya. I'm getting the same bug report. And the same message to report the bug | 04:12 |
| aksharpatel47 | In the bugs list | 04:13 |
| aksharpatel47 | I'm finding a similar bug | 04:13 |
| fieldse | muscovy, aprilg >> Made minor edits to the wiki mainpage https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuTour. Let me know if I need to clear these kinds of thing for future purposes. | 04:13 |
| fieldse | aksharpatel47, send me link to bug? | 04:13 |
| aksharpatel47 | http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinBugs/UnknownTimeZoneError?highlight=%28unknowntimezoneerror%29 | 04:13 |
| fieldse | Oy, sorry. Well, are you just trying to sign up? | 04:15 |
| aksharpatel47 | ya | 04:15 |
| fieldse | If you'll give me the information you want posted, I'll put it up for you. | 04:15 |
| aksharpatel47 | I was trying to sign up for editing as well as a programmer | 04:15 |
| aksharpatel47 | and translator for Indian languages | 04:16 |
| fieldse | cool. | 04:16 |
| fieldse | name / email address? and what programming languages / skills? | 04:17 |
| Muscovy | fieldse: that's perfectly fine, just ask us if you're doing a major overhaul or something. :D | 04:17 |
| aprilg | fieldse i think minor edits are ok ;) | 04:17 |
| aksharpatel47 | Akshar Patel / akshar.patel.47@gmail.com / Know Python, Learning GTK / Languages Known : English, Hindi, Gujarati | 04:18 |
| aprilg | hi all, who else is working on content right now? | 04:18 |
| Muscovy | Context? | 04:18 |
| aprilg | content | 04:18 |
| aprilg | text :) | 04:18 |
| fieldse | tent | 04:18 |
| mast` | like camping | 04:18 |
| fieldse | lol | 04:18 |
| fieldse | aksharpatel47, okay, thanks. I'll put it up! | 04:19 |
| aksharpatel47 | okay | 04:19 |
| aksharpatel47 | thanks | 04:19 |
| aksharpatel47 | :) | 04:19 |
| aprilg | Muscovy i'm redoing most of the text right now (converting to html from plain text). where should i push the changes? | 04:19 |
| fieldse | no prob | 04:19 |
| mast` | I joined as a member, if I want to start pushing my translations should I give you my info as well? | 04:19 |
| Muscovy | aprilg: unless it's change in the last hour, lp:~ubuntu-tour/ubuntu-tour/code-development | 04:19 |
| Muscovy | Though I think soon we should import the new code into the main branch, since it's changed a lot. | 04:20 |
| aprilg | yeah, we should do that :) | 04:20 |
| aprilg | i like how the tour's looking so far | 04:20 |
| Muscovy | I'll feel safer if MadnessRed or one of the coders give the go-ahead there. | 04:21 |
| Muscovy | Me too. ;D | 04:21 |
| mast` | I translated about half of the available text into french so far | 04:21 |
| mast` | I'd like to also program though | 04:21 |
| aprilg | mast` you can go ahead and contribute to the code | 04:23 |
| laurent_ | Does anyone know if there is a way to use py variables in the HTML? | 04:23 |
| laurent_ | Currently it looks like it's being done the other way around | 04:23 |
| Muscovy | fieldse, aprilg, I'm not sure who wrote it, but the wiki page specifies lp:~ubuntu-tour/ubuntu-tour/code-development. As far as I know, that's the coding branch, with writing/translations going in lp:ubuntu-tour. | 04:23 |
| laurent_ | The HTML contain {{var}} which is then parsed by tour.py | 04:24 |
| laurent_ | but that means it's going to require separate parsing for every instance | 04:24 |
| laurent_ | Muscovy, currently the lp:ubuntu-tour doesn't have the webkit stuff though | 04:25 |
| laurent_ | so you can't see how your changes look in the program if you're doing HTML | 04:25 |
| Muscovy | Hmm, I think I'll bring the devcode into the main then. | 04:25 |
| Muscovy | It's been a few hours since it's had a fatal bug. | 04:25 |
| laurent_ | the code-dev is working fine for me | 04:26 |
| Muscovy | And I don't fancy merging between two parallel branches. | 04:26 |
| fieldse | muscovy, what should wiki page link to instead? | 04:26 |
| laurent_ | Both | 04:26 |
| laurent_ | :P | 04:26 |
| Muscovy | Or perhaps perpendicular branches. :| | 04:26 |
| Muscovy | Both. | 04:26 |
| Muscovy | Specify code and writing. | 04:26 |
| Muscovy | I'll put the new code into the main branch right now. | 04:26 |
| fieldse | Hokay. So, "contribute code at lp:..../code-development. Contribute writing at lp:ubuntu-tour." | 04:27 |
| Muscovy | Yep. | 04:27 |
| fieldse | aite, done | 04:27 |
| Muscovy | Thanks. | 04:28 |
| laurent_ | If a voice over is used with the tour, would it be an electronic voice? | 04:28 |
| laurent_ | or would someone with a nice voice do it? | 04:29 |
| aprilg | i'd prefer someone with a nice voice :D | 04:29 |
| laurent_ | Who has a nice voice | 04:29 |
| laurent_ | in the trans-atlantic accent lol | 04:29 |
| Muscovy | Mark Shuttleworth? | 04:29 |
| aprilg | hahaha | 04:29 |
| laurent_ | If that was actually possible it would be amazing | 04:29 |
| Muscovy | Yeah. | 04:29 |
| fieldse | Maybe we can get Jono Bacon to do it. ;D | 04:30 |
| Muscovy | Well let's get to UDS-O and convince him. XD | 04:30 |
| gryman | Man, I leave for 30 mins and the channel comes alive | 04:31 |
| fieldse | I'd vote for James Earl Jones, it would give it that nice dramatic pitch. | 04:31 |
| mast` | Ubuntu, is the father... of all operating systems | 04:32 |
| Muscovy | Morgan Freeman. | 04:32 |
| laurent_ | Daniel Day Lewis lol | 04:32 |
| laurent_ | The Ubuntu Milkshake tour | 04:33 |
| Muscovy | Well somebody made an edit during my 30 seconds of local merging. :| | 04:33 |
| gryman | Morgan Freeman for sure | 04:35 |
| aprilg | Muscovy i think that was me hrhrhr | 04:35 |
| aprilg | just pushed a few minutes ago | 04:35 |
| Muscovy | It's up now. | 04:35 |
| Muscovy | Everyone, update your lp:ubuntu-tour's. | 04:35 |
| Muscovy | And scream if something crashes. | 04:35 |
| * Takyoji screams and jumps out the window | 04:36 | |
| Muscovy | Thanks to whoever put in the icons. | 04:36 |
| Muscovy | OH GOD WHATS WRONG? | 04:36 |
| Takyoji | Nothing. :P | 04:37 |
| fieldse | Damn that Freeman! | 04:37 |
| laurent_ | So you do like it? | 04:37 |
| laurent_ | wrong? | 04:37 |
| * Takyoji checks out the repository. | 04:37 | |
| gryman | What's the bzr command to update my local copy? | 04:38 |
| aprilg | bzr pull | 04:38 |
| gryman | aight | 04:38 |
| laurent_ | bzr pull lp:ubuntu-tour | 04:38 |
| fieldse | Oh yeah, so now that I've done all this wiki-fying, I guess I need to ... actually see what the project looks like. =/ | 04:38 |
| Muscovy | Is it pull or update? | 04:38 |
| gryman | update doesn't do anything | 04:38 |
| brandonj | pull | 04:38 |
| Muscovy | I listed update on the site. | 04:38 |
| Muscovy | Oh dear. | 04:38 |
| Muscovy | Fixing... | 04:38 |
| gryman | All update does is tell me I'm current, when I know I'm not | 04:38 |
| laurent_ | All the <p> for every paragraph are kind of unnecessary | 04:40 |
| laurent_ | tour.py converts all \n to <br /> | 04:40 |
| aprilg | ah.. i get all the space now | 04:40 |
| aprilg | ok. changing. will push updates back in a bit | 04:40 |
| Muscovy | While I'm on the site, any particular edits or wikilinks I should make? | 04:41 |
| aprilg | maybe we can update the branch guide? | 04:43 |
| aprilg | include the code-dev branch there | 04:43 |
| Muscovy | Sure. | 04:43 |
| gryman | aprilg, are you removing some of that white space now? | 04:44 |
| gryman | Is there going to be a way to weight the categories? | 04:45 |
| mast` | maybe I should slow down on french translations and wait for the entire english edits are in | 04:46 |
| laurent_ | I think in the bazaar help I noticed some changes that needed to be made | 04:46 |
| laurent_ | but I think it relates to the split between the code-dev and the main | 04:46 |
| Muscovy | mast`: that would be more efficient. | 04:47 |
| laurent_ | yeah upload your work doesn't include both | 04:47 |
| laurent_ | but I suppose most of the coders aren't going to need that | 04:47 |
| aprilg | gryman yep | 04:50 |
| gryman | So, I did a pull, changed a typo, did a commit, then went to push, and somehow I ended up with uncommited changes? | 04:50 |
| gryman | Oh, and there was a merge in there somewhere | 04:51 |
| Muscovy | The icons in FIrefox and Places menu don't detect from user's settings. | 04:51 |
| Muscovy | In my case, the Firefox ones don't even show, because my Humanity folder has been mostly dismantled. | 04:52 |
| aprilg | hmm, can anyone help me with this 'branches have diverged' error? | 04:52 |
| gryman | bzr merge | 04:53 |
| aprilg | ok. thanks! | 04:53 |
| laurent_ | remember everyone when starting a new directory the files start at 0 not 1 | 04:54 |
| laurent_ | Muscovy, humanity is the default theme no? | 04:54 |
| laurent_ | This is why I was asking about the variables though | 04:54 |
| laurent_ | I guess I'll need to access gconf there or something to make sure it detects the correct icons | 04:55 |
| Muscovy | I just tinker oddly. | 04:55 |
| Muscovy | But yeah, that would be best. | 04:55 |
| mast` | Would there be a bit more info on the use of DBus to track the process of the tour? | 05:03 |
| laurent_ | it will need to use dbus eventually | 05:04 |
| laurent_ | especially if it wants auto progression | 05:04 |
| Muscovy | We discussed this in the planning phase. | 05:04 |
| Muscovy | The problem with DBus is we'll need to do a LOT of patching. | 05:04 |
| mast` | stuff like, if the user is on the open office tour the app will wait for the user to create a new document him/herself become continuing ? | 05:04 |
| Muscovy | For 90% of what we want, there's a bash command, I'll grab it. | 05:04 |
| mast` | become = before* | 05:05 |
| Muscovy | pgrep firefox | xargs ps | 05:05 |
| Muscovy | We can use that to determine running processes, which works in a lot of places. | 05:06 |
| gryman | ugh, did I delete the network files? | 05:08 |
| Muscovy | Branch? | 05:08 |
| Muscovy | Yep. | 05:09 |
| Muscovy | I'll get it back. | 05:09 |
| gryman | That doesn't make any sense | 05:09 |
| Muscovy | My disjointed speech? | 05:09 |
| gryman | I think laurent renamed them, as did I | 05:09 |
| gryman | No, that they're missing | 05:09 |
| gryman | or deleted | 05:09 |
| Muscovy | They seem to have been missing for a while. | 05:11 |
| laurent_ | aprilg did you intend to overwrite the changes I made to 4_places? | 05:11 |
| laurent_ | I renamed the networking files | 05:11 |
| gryman | Muscovy: I see laurent renamed them to start at 0 14 minutes ago, so they can't be missing that long | 05:11 |
| Muscovy | Did you run bzr add afterwards? | 05:11 |
| laurent_ | but I think the latest revision may have had a weird merge | 05:11 |
| Muscovy | Whoops, my bad, pulling the wrong revisions. | 05:12 |
| gryman | Do you have to add? I thought you just did a bzr mv file1 file2 | 05:12 |
| aprilg | crap. laurent_ no. waaa :( did i? | 05:12 |
| Muscovy | They're in 59. | 05:12 |
| Muscovy | I'm heading to bed, talk to you guys tomorrow. | 05:12 |
| gryman | heh | 05:12 |
| gryman | night | 05:12 |
| aprilg | laurent_ sorry about that .. | 05:13 |
| laurent_ | all good | 05:14 |
| gryman | laurent_: So, not sure if you want to add those network files back | 05:14 |
| gryman | They're missing in 60 | 05:14 |
| gryman | afaik | 05:14 |
| laurent_ | ok I'll make sure they're there in a mo | 05:14 |
| gryman | alright | 05:14 |
| gryman | When I wrote them I wasn't thinking about starting with 0, that's my fault | 05:15 |
| laurent_ | all good | 05:15 |
| laurent_ | I'm pushing it now | 05:15 |
| gryman | There we go, thanks | 05:16 |
| laurent_ | why do workspaces come first in the tour? | 05:19 |
| gryman | Because the categories don't seem to be weighted or ordered | 05:20 |
| gryman | Desktop Configuration should come after About Ubuntu | 05:20 |
| laurent_ | yeah it's a bug in the python sorting I guess | 05:20 |
| laurent_ | it goes 1 then 11 | 05:20 |
| gryman | and Networks should probably come before most other internet dependent items | 05:21 |
| laurent_ | yeah | 05:23 |
| laurent_ | I suppose the ordering of the content isn't too important just yet | 05:23 |
| laurent_ | I'll file a bug though | 05:23 |
| gryman | Maybe prefix the dirs with a number, much like the actual files | 05:23 |
| laurent_ | I don't mean just the directories | 05:27 |
| laurent_ | I mean the actual files inside | 05:27 |
| laurent_ | it will go from 1_... to 11_... | 05:27 |
| gryman | Oh | 05:31 |
| gryman | I didn't notice that | 05:31 |
| gryman | I'm adding more info for shotwell now | 05:31 |
| aprilg | how do i rename the desktop-configuration folder to desktop-customization ? do i just change it locally then push the changes to the branch? | 05:32 |
| gryman | No, you'd want to use bzr mv file1 file2 | 05:35 |
| gryman | You think it really needs renaming? | 05:35 |
| laurent_ | it's not important | 05:35 |
| aprilg | configuration is diff from customizing. most of the topics on there are for customizing the desktop | 05:37 |
| laurent_ | the user isn't going to see that directory | 05:38 |
| gryman | But you customize through configuring | 05:39 |
| mast` | Just wondering. The tour will "hold" while the user launches applications, right? | 05:39 |
| gryman | It's just symantecs | 05:39 |
| mast` | it could be interesting if the user was reading about open office and the tour paused and said: "to launch open office's word processor go to applications->office->OpenOffice.org Word Processor" then resumed after the user did so | 05:42 |
| mast` | and checking for opened apps would be incredibly easy | 05:43 |
| gryman | Do we want to walk them through each of the OOo apps? | 05:43 |
| gryman | Or just show them where it's at, what it does, and where to get more details information on usage? | 05:43 |
| mast` | probably not | 05:44 |
| gryman | That's what I've been doing for the more advanced topics. Briefly mention them, what it can do, and then where to go for more info on that subject | 05:44 |
| gryman | So they don't feel like you left them hanging | 05:44 |
| mast` | I see | 05:45 |
| aprilg | ok :) leaving desktop folder as is | 05:46 |
| aprilg | gotta go :) be back in a bit | 05:46 |
| aprilg | thanks guys! | 05:46 |
| gryman | mast`: Otherwise right now I'd be explaining color curves in Gimp instead of just telling them that they can get more information on usage from http://www.gimp.org/ | 05:48 |
| laurent_ | this is a tour | 05:49 |
| laurent_ | overall it shouldn't really last more than 5 minutes | 05:49 |
| laurent_ | it's showing the very basics | 05:49 |
| laurent_ | the most important parts should be that they know how to launch an application, connect to the internet and most of all install software, as unless they own a smart phone, it will be a somewhat unfamiliar technique to new users | 05:50 |
| mast` | then I don't see the use of DBus / scanning for processes | 05:50 |
| gryman | Maybe later we could do a normal "starter" tour, and then a "power" tour that has more topics | 05:50 |
| laurent_ | mast if they fail to open an application, how does the tour know? | 05:51 |
| laurent_ | or continue | 05:51 |
| laurent_ | ideally I don't think they should have to click next at all | 05:51 |
| mast` | it could open it for them on a timer | 05:51 |
| laurent_ | then they haven't learned anything | 05:52 |
| mast` | laurent_: it should be safe to assume that if the person does the tour they're at least trying to learn | 05:53 |
| laurent_ | true | 05:53 |
| mast` | I can see that having them launch open office might be pointless | 05:53 |
| laurent_ | yeah, in someways much of the content goes beyond a tour | 05:54 |
| laurent_ | some of it mimics a help guide, which already exists | 05:54 |
| laurent_ | some of it mimics content that is better suited to the Ubuntu manual | 05:54 |
| mast` | things like opening the main menu though could be nice | 05:54 |
| laurent_ | my personal opinion is that the tour should be concise | 05:55 |
| laurent_ | yeah basically teaching the basic user interface | 05:55 |
| gryman | Well, I'm adding content, and if it's not needed it can be cut out | 05:55 |
| laurent_ | yeah I've been adding content too | 05:55 |
| gryman | Better to have too much and remove some then not enough | 05:55 |
| mast` | laurent_: I agree on the fact that it should be concise, in and out in 5 minutes on average (with people spending more time on it as needed) | 05:55 |
| laurent_ | it's easier to sort a bunch of content than not have enough... exactly | 05:55 |
| gryman | I still think a "power" option would be neat | 05:56 |
| laurent_ | I also think the text should be minimal... they have just installed, a new user will be a bit overwhelmed | 05:56 |
| laurent_ | a nice soothing encouraging voice | 05:56 |
| laurent_ | to help them | 05:56 |
| laurent_ | with friendly images | 05:56 |
| laurent_ | gently guiding through their new and powerful OS | 05:56 |
| gryman | I guess we're attracting Windows users then? :P | 05:56 |
| laurent_ | no, someone who has never used ubuntu before | 05:57 |
| gryman | Come on, it was a little funny | 05:57 |
| gryman | :P | 05:57 |
| laurent_ | yeah | 05:57 |
| mast` | laurent_: especially since some languages might take up more space than english... I know that going through some drafts in french I ended up with translations that were sometimes much longer | 05:57 |
| laurent_ | anyone who has used ubuntu more than a month would probably find a tour pointless no? | 05:57 |
| gryman | Depends on why they're using it | 05:58 |
| laurent_ | mast precisely, it will make translating easier and faster to keep it concise | 05:58 |
| laurent_ | but then adding audio would require that we find people to do audio translations in every language, which may be even harder | 05:58 |
| gryman | Someones spouse might use Ubuntu for a while before finding the tour and watching it | 05:58 |
| gryman | The tour could be useful to schools as well | 05:59 |
| gryman | Cut down on initial direction | 05:59 |
| laurent_ | very good point | 05:59 |
| laurent_ | for the translations, once everything is stable, launchpad should be used | 06:00 |
| laurent_ | https://help.launchpad.net/Translations/YourProject | 06:02 |
| gryman | Ok, added shotwell tags, editing, and publishing | 06:02 |
| gryman | My shotwell has almost 8k photos | 06:03 |
| gryman | :D | 06:03 |
| mast` | there should be a list of precise screenshots to be taken so they can start being localized ;) | 06:07 |
| gryman | Yeah | 06:07 |
| laurent_ | I think there is talk of using open shot | 06:07 |
| laurent_ | or quickshot or what ever it is called | 06:07 |
| gryman | To do a slideshow? | 06:07 |
| gryman | Open shot is a video editor | 06:07 |
| laurent_ | the thing they used in ubuntu manual to take all the screens | 06:08 |
| mast` | quickshot | 06:08 |
| gryman | greg@moniker:~$ search quickshot | 06:08 |
| gryman | greg@moniker:~$ | 06:08 |
| mast` | that's the tool they use in ubuntu-manuel | 06:09 |
| mast` | manual* | 06:09 |
| laurent_ | http://ubuntu-manual.org/quickshot | 06:09 |
| mast` | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-manual/quickshot | 06:09 |
| mast` | oh, you beat me to it | 06:09 |
| fieldse | What screenshots are needed? | 06:11 |
| fieldse | Can we start a list there on the etherpad? | 06:11 |
| laurent_ | who knows just yet | 06:11 |
| laurent_ | or the wiki | 06:11 |
| fieldse | I was wondering about that - seems like we need to keep the wiki updated from the etherpad, as that's most current, yes? | 06:11 |
| laurent_ | I'd say definitely a screenie of each menu | 06:11 |
| laurent_ | an open networks indicator, while it is disconnected | 06:12 |
| gryman | A list of SS's would be great | 06:12 |
| laurent_ | the wiki should probably take over from the etherpad now that it exists | 06:12 |
| fieldse | FWIW, shutter kicks ass for screenshots. | 06:12 |
| laurent_ | though the colouring of etherpad is nice | 06:12 |
| gryman | Shutter is cool | 06:12 |
| gryman | I like it | 06:13 |
| laurent_ | a screenshot of the various installation procedures of software centre | 06:13 |
| fieldse | Agreed, I think that it's better to have it in one location, even if it means losing the coloration. At least the new visitors would be able to see what's up | 06:13 |
| laurent_ | as again, that's one of the most important things for a person who is unfamiliar with linux, esp ubuntu | 06:13 |
| fieldse | but up to y'all? | 06:13 |
| mast` | Quickshot is pretty automated though | 06:13 |
| laurent_ | Quickshot would need to be customised for this project | 06:14 |
| fieldse | Installation procedures, that's good. | 06:15 |
| fieldse | I'm going to start a ss list on the pad | 06:15 |
| laurent_ | installation? | 06:16 |
| gryman | Ok, the boss said it's time for bed | 06:23 |
| gryman | I'll be back tomorrow morning | 06:24 |
| laurent_ | cya | 06:24 |
| mast` | see ya | 06:25 |
| mast` | fieldse: are you creating the list of ss on Etherpad? | 06:27 |
| laurent_ | another purpose aside from teaching the newest user how to use ubuntu would be to show an existing user the new features | 06:31 |
| fieldse | Yes. | 06:32 |
| fieldse | mast`, ^ | 06:33 |
| laurent_ | but then again the ubiquity tour in installation will no doubt do a lot of that too | 06:33 |
| laurent_ | Silasle, there seems to be a bug with the progression of the tour | 06:35 |
| laurent_ | when you open it, the about ubuntu chapter has more than 10 entries | 06:36 |
| laurent_ | I'm consistently having it jump from 1 to 11 then to 2 | 06:36 |
| laurent_ | etc. | 06:36 |
| Silasle | Ok, i check that later today | 06:36 |
| mast` | fieldse: I can help out with that if you want. Wanna keep the list you have there an add beside each item what the screenshot should be? | 06:40 |
| mast` | ie. Firefox -> How to launch it (screenshot: application->internet->firefox highlighted) | 06:40 |
| fieldse | mast` Hey, yes. I would like help with that, cuz I don't know what's needed. | 06:41 |
| mast` | I'll start from the bottom of the list? :p | 06:41 |
| fieldse | I've not been keeping up to speed with the writers' chatter, so I don't know exactly what they're working on. | 06:41 |
| Silasle | laurent_: Also the last page seems to be in some other language. | 06:41 |
| fieldse | or what they're wanting "highlighted" | 06:41 |
| laurent_ | What last page? | 06:42 |
| Silasle | In about-ubuntu | 06:42 |
| laurent_ | in code-dev or ubuntu-tour? | 06:42 |
| Silasle | code-dev | 06:42 |
| Silasle | Portuguese | 06:42 |
| laurent_ | someone added that to the wrong folder obviously | 06:43 |
| laurent_ | but the language file are being handled in the main | 06:43 |
| maheshmohan | laurent_ , are you talking to me? | 06:43 |
| fieldse | mast`, What am I helping with here? Are we just adding (screenshot) to end of each item? | 06:43 |
| laurent_ | in fact it would probably be wise to take out most of the language files from code-dev if that doesn't affect the merges | 06:44 |
| laurent_ | maheshmohan, I was talking to Silasle | 06:44 |
| maheshmohan | ok. Can you listen to me, to solve my problem, after solving Silasle's ? | 06:45 |
| laurent_ | go ahead | 06:45 |
| maheshmohan | i fixed a typo in 'about-ubuntu' section. but, when i tried to commit i got 'these branches are diverged' error. What to do? | 06:46 |
| mast` | fieldse: I thought that was the idea. Have a list of each "article" and add what the screenshot that goes with it should be | 06:46 |
| Silasle | laurent_: I get the order 0123456789,10,11,12,(13) | 06:46 |
| laurent_ | you don't get the workspaces as the second slide? | 06:47 |
| Silasle | No | 06:47 |
| laurent_ | I'm getting that consistently | 06:47 |
| laurent_ | maheshmohan you will need to type the command bzr merge | 06:47 |
| Silasle | Whit the latest from code-dev? | 06:47 |
| laurent_ | what happened is someone has added a push since you pulled | 06:47 |
| maheshmohan | ok. I will try | 06:48 |
| laurent_ | we merged the code-dev in to lp:ubuntu-tour earlier | 06:48 |
| laurent_ | so they should pretty much be the same, but yes both | 06:48 |
| Silasle | Hmm, for me it's ok. | 06:48 |
| laurent_ | Silasle, try clicking off about-ubuntu to another chapter, then return to it and see if that makes it happen | 06:48 |
| maheshmohan | laurent, I merged, but, I got "nothing to do" as output. | 06:49 |
| Silasle | No, second is "Ubuntu is a free, open ......" | 06:49 |
| Silasle | And then panel, aplication menu and so on | 06:50 |
| laurent_ | have you pulled the latest? | 06:50 |
| laurent_ | I'm not even getting ubuntu is a free, open.... | 06:50 |
| maheshmohan | I pulled it 2 hours ago(using bzr branch command) | 06:51 |
| Silasle | Yep, latest | 06:51 |
| laurent_ | odd | 06:52 |
| laurent_ | my first slide says "Welcome to ubuntu tour" | 06:53 |
| mast` | lp:ubuntu-tour doesn't work for me :/ | 06:53 |
| laurent_ | The second says "Ubuntu Workspaces" | 06:53 |
| Silasle | bbl | 06:53 |
| laurent_ | 3 is "The Ubuntu desktop is designed to be efficient and very easy to use." | 06:53 |
| laurent_ | what's the full command you're running mast? | 06:53 |
| laurent_ | ok my 1_what is ubuntu is not showing at all, it's showing the 11_workspaces instead of 1_ | 06:55 |
| laurent_ | what's the full command you're running mast`? | 06:55 |
| mast` | laurent_: just updated with bzr pull | 06:56 |
| mast` | and running with python ubuntu-tour.py | 06:56 |
| fieldse | mast`, this is starting to look good. Much more orderly. | 07:03 |
| mast` | what about the remove a package screenshot? | 07:04 |
| mast` | either the list of all installed packages, with emphasis on the uninstall button | 07:05 |
| mast` | or the actual packages window | 07:05 |
| mast` | package's* | 07:05 |
| maheshmohan | laurent, I solved my problem. One doubt, can I use this for contribution, or is it dead/ http://openetherpad.org/GUNcK2dx75 | 07:09 |
| laurent_ | That or the wiki | 07:10 |
| laurent_ | try use the wiki if you can, it's more accessible | 07:11 |
| mast` | lp:ubuntu-tour is the working branch right? | 07:11 |
| fieldse | whew. | 07:11 |
| laurent_ | lp:ubuntu-tour is for the authoring of the text | 07:11 |
| mast` | it looks pretty good fieldse :) | 07:12 |
| laurent_ | for the code use the code-development branch | 07:12 |
| mast` | ah, that would explain it | 07:12 |
| laurent_ | then that gets merged back while stable | 07:12 |
| fieldse | Awesome work, mast`! I'm about done for an evening, I think. | 07:13 |
| maheshmohan | Can I get the wiki link? | 07:13 |
| fieldse | Hey maheshmohan : | 07:13 |
| fieldse | This is the "todo list": https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuTour/Todo | 07:13 |
| fieldse | And the volunteers list wiki page is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuTour/Volunteers | 07:14 |
| fieldse | I move that we copy the etherpad to the wiki and close it out - anyone actively working on it right now? | 07:14 |
| maheshmohan | fieldse, ok.thanks. I just refrred it to make a page for trash in about-ubuntu section | 07:15 |
| fieldse | maheshmohan, cool, thanks. | 07:15 |
| laurent_ | What is the correct procedure for dealing with a merge conflict? | 07:15 |
| fieldse | o_O | 07:16 |
| mast` | Anyone thought of a way to put emphasis on stuff on screen? | 07:30 |
| laurent__ | huh? | 07:31 |
| mast` | from the wiki: The app needs to indicate to users on the screen a certain location of interest. We need some way of rendering arrows or boxes on the screen (outside of the main app window) to highlight things. | 07:32 |
| laurent__ | my idea was a low opacity set of concentric circles | 07:35 |
| laurent__ | but I don't think the app has got to that stage | 07:35 |
| laurent__ | It's outside my capabilities | 07:35 |
| maheshmohan | one unrelated doubt | 07:36 |
| laurent__ | ? | 07:36 |
| maheshmohan | I can't login to the wiki. I got "UnknownTimeZoneError" | 07:37 |
| laurent__ | someone had that earlier | 07:37 |
| mast` | I think compiz would be able to do that | 07:37 |
| maheshmohan | Also, I'm going to create a new file. so, what I have to do? pull, create file, add, commit, merge. am I right? | 07:38 |
| maheshmohan | is this the order? | 07:38 |
| laurent__ | no merge | 07:38 |
| laurent__ | you push | 07:38 |
| maheshmohan | ok.thanks | 07:39 |
| maheshmohan | what is merge for? | 07:39 |
| laurent__ | when your branch and the central branch are out of sync | 07:39 |
| maheshmohan | ok. waht to do for wiki error? | 07:41 |
| laurent__ | I don't know sorry | 07:41 |
| laurent__ | mast` are you editing the wiki? | 07:42 |
| laurent__ | it's possible only one person can edit the wiki at a time | 07:42 |
| mast` | laurent__: nop | 07:43 |
| laurent__ | fieldse was it you who had the "UnknownTimeZoneError" in the wiki before? | 07:43 |
| maheshmohan | how I know, when my revison is accepted by the team? | 07:44 |
| laurent__ | http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinBugs/UnknownTimeZoneError?highlight=%28unknowntimezoneerror%29 | 07:45 |
| laurent__ | that was the link provided before | 07:45 |
| maheshmohan | laurent, I cant get you | 07:47 |
| laurent__ | your revisions have been added to bazaar maheshmohan | 07:50 |
| laurent__ | is that what you meant? | 07:50 |
| maheshmohan | ok. I meant, is it accepted? Because, It is not listed in my launcpad page | 07:50 |
| laurent__ | it takes a while to update everything sometimes | 08:02 |
| laurent__ | but your changes are in the branch | 08:02 |
| mast` | i'm off for the night, see ya | 08:05 |
| maheshmohan | thanks laurent. Now I have to find a solution for editing wiki page | 08:06 |
| laurent__ | perhaps try temporarily changing your timezone | 08:15 |
| aprilg1 | fieldse the link to the volunteers list on the main page (in the box for pages) is broken :) | 11:24 |
| aprilg1 | how do i change that? | 11:25 |
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| aprilg | fieldse i meant the wiki page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuTour | 11:28 |
| aprilg | figured it out :) fixed the link | 11:39 |
| fieldse | oh, hi. nice. So you pierced the depths of my wiki prestidigitation, eh? | 12:36 |
| fieldse | =P | 12:36 |
| fieldse | -> switching machines, bbl | 12:36 |
| GiulioC | hi all | 13:35 |
| aksharpatel47 | hi | 13:37 |
| GiulioC | I have a problem on updating my local bzr branch from internet... | 13:46 |
| GiulioC | yesterday i downloaded using bzr branch lp:ubuntu-tour | 13:46 |
| GiulioC | today trying to update this folder, it shows that it's already at the lastest revision | 13:47 |
| GiulioC | but it's actually 73, on my pc it's 40 | 13:48 |
| GiulioC | and using bzr update lp:ubuntu-tour i get this error: I have a problem on updating my local bzr branch from internet... | 13:50 |
| GiulioC | ops sorry | 13:51 |
| GiulioC | bzr: ERROR No WorkingTree exists for "bzr+shh://bazaar.launchpad.net/%2Bbranch/ubuntu-tour/" | 13:52 |
| daker | GiulioC, do $ bzr version-info | 13:59 |
| daker | in your branch folder | 13:59 |
| GiulioC | mmm, now i have downloaded another branch folder...because I didn't changed anything from yesterday... | 14:01 |
| daker | or if you still have to old branch just do | 14:02 |
| daker | $ bzr pull | 14:02 |
| GiulioC | ok thanks | 14:03 |
| daker | s/to/the | 14:03 |
| daker | GiulioC, nop | 14:08 |
| Omega | Good day guys. | 14:14 |
| GiulioC | when can we start to translate in other languages? | 14:15 |
| GiulioC | hi omega | 14:15 |
| Omega | You can already start. | 14:16 |
| Omega | You just make the folders for the corresponding language | 14:16 |
| Omega | and start translating | 14:16 |
| GiulioC | for italian is "it" or "it_IT" | 14:16 |
| GiulioC | ? | 14:18 |
| GiulioC | who wrote shotwell missing sections? | 14:24 |
| Omega | GiulioC: You need both | 14:25 |
| Omega | if it cannot find your region it falls back to it | 14:25 |
| gryman | I don't see a missing section for shotwell | 14:25 |
| Omega | I don't know how many kinds of italian there are | 14:25 |
| gryman | I wrote tags, editing, and publish | 14:25 |
| GiulioC | ah ok I saw...gryman can I modify a bit yours? | 14:26 |
| GiulioC | :) | 14:26 |
| gryman | of course | 14:26 |
| GiulioC | btw I'll use "it" for italian...because it's only speech in Italy...and a bit in Swizerland...but not so much.. | 14:28 |
| gryman | GiulioC: Are you going to add a "missing" section for shotwell? | 14:29 |
| GiulioC | no, I wrote "missing" because they weren't made by me | 14:31 |
| gryman | Oh | 14:38 |
| Silasle | Are we using 639-1 language code standard? | 14:46 |
| aksharpatel47 | do you think we should start a facebook page for Ubuntu | 14:59 |
| aksharpatel47 | Tour project? | 14:59 |
| mast` | couldn't hurt | 15:04 |
| aksharpatel47 | would be better if it's official though | 15:06 |
| Omega | We don't need a facebook page per se. | 15:14 |
| Omega | I don't particularly like facebook. | 15:14 |
| gryman | Even if they're the bane of your existence, it could generate some interest | 15:15 |
| gryman | I don't like FB much either, but I do use it to keep in touch with family | 15:15 |
| mast` | nobody likes facebook :p but it's a good way to reach people when you have something to display | 15:15 |
| GiulioC | neither do i | 15:15 |
| Omega | 15/9/01 is the release date of diaspora | 15:16 |
| GiulioC | Wednesday? | 15:17 |
| gryman | Did you mean 15/9/10? | 15:17 |
| Omega | yes | 15:18 |
| gryman | Never know with different date formats | 15:23 |
| gryman | Wasn't sure if you meant 9/15/2015 | 15:23 |
| gryman | or something like that | 15:23 |
| GiulioC | gryman, where are you from? | 15:24 |
| gryman | US | 15:24 |
| GiulioC | in Italy we use to write date DD/MM/YEAR | 15:24 |
| gryman | Yeah, most of Europe does | 15:24 |
| mast` | we do in Canada as well | 15:25 |
| gryman | I hate having to use Windows for my class | 15:26 |
| GiulioC | I have to go | 16:03 |
| gryman | Bathroom is down the hall | 16:03 |
| gryman | third door on your left | 16:04 |
| GiulioC | no thanks I don't need the bathroom | 16:04 |
| GiulioC | :P | 16:04 |
| GiulioC | i have to do some homework | 16:04 |
| gryman | That's what I'm trying to do now | 16:04 |
| GiulioC | can i update the branch with my modifications? | 16:05 |
| GiulioC | I started to add some translations in Italian and correct explanations | 16:06 |
| GiulioC | corrected some explanations* | 16:06 |
| GiulioC | then? | 16:09 |
| gryman | yep | 16:09 |
| GiulioC | ok | 16:09 |
| GiulioC | ok byez ;) | 16:12 |
| maheshmohan | Guys, what is the current status? Will it work when I pull the code & run 'python ubuntu-tour.py' file? | 16:21 |
| gryman | yep | 16:21 |
| maheshmohan | But, I found it not working | 16:24 |
| gryman | error? | 16:24 |
| Omega | Are you using GNOME? | 16:27 |
| maheshmohan | yes. I am. Error is http://pastebin.com/jGjhDgS1 | 16:30 |
| Omega | Try running the stable branch | 16:31 |
| maheshmohan | where is it | 16:34 |
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| maheshmohan | Omega, where is the stable branch? From what I know, there are two branches, one for code and another for writing | 16:46 |
| Omega | lp:~ubuntu-tour | 16:47 |
| mast` | code-development is for the code and ubuntu-tour for writing | 16:48 |
| maheshmohan | yes. I pulled from ubuntu-tour | 16:48 |
| maheshmohan | that code is not working | 16:48 |
| mast` | I get the same error you do, with both code-dev and ubuntu-tour | 16:48 |
| maheshmohan | also, can I start translating chapters now, or I have to wait for the project to finish? | 16:52 |
| mast` | maheshmohan: I remember seeing someone say that translations should wait until the english versions are final | 16:55 |
| maheshmohan | ok. But, somw guy commited italian translation just now. Thats why I asked | 16:56 |
| mast` | maheshmohan: yeah I know I also started working on the french stuff, but I don't think I'll push anything quite yet | 16:57 |
| maheshmohan | But, I think, the first chapter, 'about-ubuntu' is quite mature to start translating | 16:58 |
| gryman | They were saying they would use launchpad for translations once the main content was set | 17:10 |
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| ayortano | Hello | 17:52 |
| Silasle | Hi ayortano | 17:52 |
| ayortano | To be precise, I really want to help as translator and editor. | 17:54 |
| Silasle | ayortano: Check this page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuTour/ under "How to Volunteer and Contribute" | 17:55 |
| ayortano | Thanks Silasle | 18:01 |
| kuro__ | will this only be "ubuntu-tour", or is there also going to be a "kubuntu-tour" | 18:05 |
| ayortano | I add my name to the page in the wiki? | 18:08 |
| kuro__ | yes | 18:08 |
| Silasle | ayortano: Yes | 18:08 |
| ayortano | Ok | 18:09 |
| ayortano | Is ok | 18:14 |
| ayortano | Im Federico Leite | 18:14 |
| MadnessRed | hm, I think we need a getting started tour | 18:48 |
| MadnessRed | the current one, when you start give you trash | 18:48 |
| MadnessRed | Also how about we move the menu to inside the html interface | 18:50 |
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| MadnessRed | hi a;; | 19:28 |
| MadnessRed | a;; => all | 19:29 |
| aksharpatel47 | hi | 19:41 |
| MadnessRed | any new updates? | 19:43 |
| aksharpatel47 | nothing on the mailing list | 19:43 |
| Silasle | MadnessRed: http://pastebin.com/jGjhDgS1 | 19:43 |
| aksharpatel47 | Lots of people joining the project as can be seen on ubuntu wiki | 19:44 |
| aksharpatel47 | what's in the link? | 19:44 |
| MadnessRed | a problem | 19:44 |
| Silasle | an bug report | 19:44 |
| MadnessRed | need to talk to the owner of the problem though | 19:44 |
| Silasle | It's maheshmohan | 19:45 |
| MadnessRed | Also Silasle, here is a quick ui mockup, what do you think? | 19:45 |
| MadnessRed | http://paste.ubuntu.com/493246/ | 19:45 |
| MadnessRed | Ignore the spelling of Previous | 19:45 |
| Silasle | First comment, use http://www.balsamiq.com/products/mockups# for mockups :P | 19:46 |
| MadnessRed | ok, ignoring that | 19:47 |
| Silasle | Second comment, progress bar beside the buttons | 19:47 |
| MadnessRed | ok | 19:47 |
| Silasle | *Back next buttons | 19:47 |
| MadnessRed | yh | 19:47 |
| MadnessRed | but the left menu? | 19:48 |
| Silasle | At least better then it's now. | 19:48 |
| MadnessRed | Also, I am going to work on our bug report :) | 19:49 |
| MadnessRed | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-tour/+bug/636823 | 19:49 |
| Silasle | And you have moved the get colors part to get_theme.py ? | 19:50 |
| Silasle | Ah, that one. | 19:50 |
| Silasle | What's whit that annoying scrollbar? | 19:51 |
| Silasle | I am going to test how it looks whit treeview | 19:53 |
| MadnessRed | ok | 19:56 |
| MadnessRed | don't commit though | 19:56 |
| MadnessRed | also what urls should be handled internally, and what ones externally | 19:57 |
| MadnessRed | should I just say, all file:// should be handled by us, and anything else should be passed to the default browser? | 19:57 |
| Silasle | Everything created by us internaly | 19:57 |
| Silasle | That you wrote! | 19:58 |
| MadnessRed | klkl | 19:58 |
| MadnessRed | so if uri[0:7] == 'file://': return 0 | 19:58 |
| MadnessRed | kk | 19:58 |
| Silasle | Mmm, yes or "if "file:// in uri:return 0 | 19:59 |
| Silasle | * if "file://" in uri: return 0 | 19:59 |
| MadnessRed | also I don;t need an else after an if return do I | 20:00 |
| MadnessRed | I think we should spicify file:// being at the start | 20:01 |
| Silasle | If your other code doesn't need an 1 returned if it's not an file uri | 20:01 |
| Silasle | Then you don't need it | 20:01 |
| Omega | Good day guys. | 20:02 |
| Silasle | Hi Omega | 20:02 |
| MadnessRed | ok, I pushed it | 20:05 |
| Silasle | I cant pull now as i'm editing my file | 20:05 |
| MadnessRed | :/ pull first before you commit | 20:06 |
| MadnessRed | I edited ubuntu-tour.py | 20:06 |
| Silasle | It right now looks like this: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4997718/Screenshot-18.png | 20:08 |
| Omega | I think we should move away from calling the chapters by program name and start calling them by task name | 20:09 |
| Silasle | File "ubuntu-tour.py", line 22, in <module> | 20:09 |
| Silasle | if sys.argv[1] == 'debug': | 20:09 |
| Silasle | IndexError: list index out of range | 20:09 |
| Silasle | MadnessRed: ^ | 20:09 |
| MadnessRed | :/ | 20:10 |
| Silasle | Omega: We will have folders like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/493246/ | 20:10 |
| Omega | That looks so much better. | 20:10 |
| Omega | Also, I dig that mockup. | 20:10 |
| Omega | Did MadnessRed make that by hand? | 20:11 |
| MadnessRed | sorted | 20:11 |
| MadnessRed | He did | 20:11 |
| Omega | o: | 20:11 |
| Omega | Props; | 20:11 |
| Silasle | :P | 20:11 |
| MadnessRed | With gedit | 20:11 |
| Silasle | Ok, runs | 20:11 |
| MadnessRed | and it you add debug to the end of the command, eg, I do | 20:12 |
| MadnessRed | clear; ./ubuntu-tour.py debug | 20:12 |
| MadnessRed | then it will show the debug output | 20:12 |
| Silasle | Ok | 20:12 |
| Silasle | It's programmers day today: Make Happy Programmer Day cards using ASCII art ;) | 20:13 |
| MadnessRed | nice :) | 20:13 |
| MadnessRed | why today? | 20:13 |
| Silasle | Guess! | 20:13 |
| Silasle | It's the 256th day of the year (byte) | 20:14 |
| MadnessRed | kk | 20:15 |
| Omega | Oh it is? Happy programmers day guys! | 20:16 |
| Silasle | brb | 20:17 |
| MadnessRed | any you | 20:17 |
| MadnessRed | I don't suppose someone could allow me to mange bugs on the bug tracker | 20:17 |
| Omega | I will grant you the necessary powers. | 20:17 |
| MadnessRed | ty | 20:18 |
| Silasle | back | 20:18 |
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| Omega | https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-tour-bugs | 20:19 |
| Omega | Join that group | 20:19 |
| Silasle | MadnessRed: Do you know how to get the treeview clicks? | 20:19 |
| Omega | and you'll be able to manage them | 20:19 |
| MadnessRed | i think so | 20:19 |
| MadnessRed | actually single clicks can be difficult | 20:20 |
| MadnessRed | I think there is a workaround though | 20:20 |
| Silasle | But double clocks? | 20:20 |
| Silasle | *clicks | 20:20 |
| MadnessRed | connect("activated",function) | 20:20 |
| MadnessRed | but the treeview will be generated in tour.py | 20:21 |
| MadnessRed | with a simple callback function | 20:21 |
| MadnessRed | I think that is best | 20:21 |
| MadnessRed | then the entirety of tour management is in tour.py | 20:21 |
| MadnessRed | brb | 20:21 |
| MadnessRed | back | 20:25 |
| Silasle | activated not working | 20:26 |
| Silasle | File "ubuntu-tour.py", line 92, in __init__ | 20:26 |
| Silasle | tree.connect("activated",self.callback,name) | 20:26 |
| Silasle | TypeError: <gtk.TreeView object at 0x9d717ac (GtkTreeView at 0x9db0020)>: unknown signal name: activated | 20:26 |
| Silasle | row-expanded works | 20:26 |
| Silasle | Ah, row-activated | 20:28 |
| Silasle | Hmm, i dont get that | 20:44 |
| Silasle | MadnessRed: It wasn't that easy, i have an treeview and i can change section but not change page | 21:01 |
| MadnessRed | ok, sorry, was not watching irc | 21:02 |
| MadnessRed | its active I think | 21:02 |
| MadnessRed | can you push you code then, I'll see what I can do with it | 21:02 |
| Silasle | It's row-activated | 21:02 |
| Silasle | But the only thing i get is something like (0,7) column 0 row 7 | 21:03 |
| MadnessRed | oh right yh | 21:03 |
| Silasle | I'll send you an tar file | 21:04 |
| MadnessRed | ok | 21:04 |
| MadnessRed | madnessred@gmail.com | 21:05 |
| Silasle | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4997718/tree.tar.gz | 21:06 |
| Silasle | That code is an bit messed up and may look strange but it was the best i could get :| | 21:08 |
| MadnessRed | ok | 21:08 |
| MadnessRed | ok, the way that things will be organised, I think... | 21:08 |
| Silasle | ? | 21:09 |
| MadnessRed | ... | 21:09 |
| MadnessRed | in the folder | 21:09 |
| MadnessRed | code-project/tour/language | 21:09 |
| MadnessRed | should be a file tour.info | 21:09 |
| MadnessRed | Which should read something like: | 21:09 |
| MadnessRed | name:About Ubuntu | 21:10 |
| MadnessRed | parent:Uncatagorised | 21:10 |
| MadnessRed | position:1 | 21:10 |
| Silasle | Yea | 21:10 |
| MadnessRed | that way we can also have titles in the correct language | 21:10 |
| Silasle | Mmm | 21:10 |
| MadnessRed | and we can manage case better | 21:11 |
| Silasle | Ah, you changed something | 21:12 |
| MadnessRed | I just uploaded a revised tour.info file | 21:19 |
| MadnessRed | I missed something last time | 21:19 |
| MadnessRed | I thinki | 21:19 |
| MadnessRed | # | 21:19 |
| Silasle | What's whit my treeview? | 21:20 |
| Silasle | Ok, bed time, bye | 21:24 |
| MadnessRed | ok, sorry | 21:24 |
| MadnessRed | was looking at the code | 21:24 |
| MadnessRed | I am making the tour things objects, so they store there own language a catgory | 21:24 |
| MadnessRed | should make things a bit more effienct, and make creating the treeview easier | 21:25 |
| Silasle | Yea, but now creating isn't the problem | 21:25 |
| MadnessRed | I know, but we need to sort out the catagories | 21:27 |
| Silasle | Yea, that too | 21:28 |
| MadnessRed | which are kind of a dependancy of the treeview | 21:28 |
| Silasle | Mmm, thats true | 21:29 |
| Silasle | Wouldnt it be an idea to have the links in the html window? | 21:29 |
| Silasle | *links=treeview | 21:30 |
| MadnessRed | I thought about that | 21:30 |
| MadnessRed | but then we need to generate html dynamically, each time the page is loaded | 21:31 |
| MadnessRed | it could be done but i think it would look better with gtk | 21:31 |
| Silasle | Maybe | 21:34 |
| Silasle | But i'm really going to bed now | 21:34 |
| Silasle | bye | 21:34 |
| MadnessRed | bi | 21:42 |
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| MadnessRed | There is a high chance of bugs in the latest revision, please test and let me know | 22:11 |
| MadnessRed | thats on the code-development branch | 22:11 |
| MadnessRed | I know that only 1 tutorial shows at the moment, thats because the others don't have config files yet | 22:12 |
| MadnessRed | 22:13 | |
| MadnessRed | I gtg, I'll checkup when I get back for any bugs, sorry about this | 22:13 |
| Omega | No problem | 22:16 |
| aprilg1 | Hi everyone. just got home. read through logs. yarrr | 22:30 |
| aprilg1 | someone mentioned an FB page? what about twitter? lulz. i don't like FB tho. i deleted my account | 22:30 |
| aprilg1 | :D | 22:30 |
| === aprilg1 is now known as aprilg | ||
| MadnessRed | !digest | 22:41 |
| gryman | How'd you know I just had lunch? | 22:42 |
| MadnessRed | I was hoping, that it would update me with the last posts, but it didn't | 22:44 |
| === zz_Crisco is now known as Crisco | ||
| aprilg | aprilg_away | 22:46 |
| === aprilg is now known as aprilg_away | ||
| aprilg_away | arrr really need to sleep na0 | 22:46 |
| MadnessRed | kk | 22:46 |
| aprilg_away | i'll catch up with you guys later | 22:46 |
| Muscovy | Oh dear, 40 new messages. | 23:59 |
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