| sinman | was wondering if i might can get some help in this channel since I'm not getting any in the #ubuntu channel | 03:56 |
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| holstein | sinman: whatsup? | 03:56 |
| sinman | I have completely redone my computer several times now and the trash is still showing the same things in it in both ubuntu and ubuntu studio | 03:57 |
| holstein | 'trash' ?? | 03:57 |
| sinman | and both of these isn't sharing nothing except the swap | 03:57 |
| holstein | you mean the trash can? | 03:57 |
| sinman | yes | 03:57 |
| holstein | AH | 03:57 |
| holstein | exactly mirrored? | 03:57 |
| holstein | the trash cans? | 03:58 |
| sinman | it look like it | 03:58 |
| holstein | whats the issue? | 03:58 |
| sinman | yes they both have the same thing | 03:58 |
| holstein | can you restore from either one? | 03:58 |
| holstein | that would be kinda cool | 03:58 |
| holstein | whats you partitioning like? | 03:59 |
| holstein | did you add a shared volume to /etc/fstab or something? | 03:59 |
| holstein | maybe some partition is being read by both installations | 03:59 |
| sinman | about a week ago i was doing some clean up of things i downloaded, and I moved them to the trash. I forgotten about but had to redo everything including the install and ever since I keep getting the same files in the trash can | 03:59 |
| sinman | no | 03:59 |
| holstein | sinman: have you cleared the trash | 04:00 |
| sinman | this is fresh install of both as of today | 04:00 |
| holstein | yeah? | 04:00 |
| sinman | i tried but it won't clear them | 04:00 |
| holstein | sinman: why dual boot? | 04:00 |
| sinman | i want to use ubuntu for gaming, and learn programmin, and use ubuntu studio for multimedia stuff only | 04:00 |
| holstein | there the same | 04:01 |
| holstein | really | 04:01 |
| holstein | when i used XP | 04:01 |
| holstein | i had 2 installs | 04:01 |
| holstein | one that i used daily | 04:01 |
| holstein | and one for studio work | 04:01 |
| holstein | a really minimal install | 04:02 |
| holstein | linux doesnt really need that | 04:02 |
| holstein | but, do what you want | 04:02 |
| holstein | sinman: i think you should research forcing the trash to clear | 04:02 |
| holstein | and then run some tests | 04:02 |
| sinman | i have a 1TB HDD so I figure doing a dual boot would use the space be a better choice | 04:02 |
| sinman | but why are they still there when i delete the partition and change the size of / and /home partition | 04:03 |
| sinman | and this time I'm using LVM | 04:03 |
| holstein | not sure | 04:04 |
| holstein | thats interesting | 04:04 |
| sinman | exactly | 04:04 |
| holstein | i would still research forcing the trash to empty | 04:04 |
| holstein | and run some test | 04:04 |
| holstein | throw some things away | 04:05 |
| holstein | and monitor the behavior | 04:05 |
| sinman | the /home is nowhere the size that they use to be before i started to use LVM (which is today) | 04:05 |
| sinman | i will | 04:05 |
| sinman | another question the synaptic when u download from it where does it save the files at. I know someplace in the /var folder | 04:06 |
| holstein | hmmm | 04:07 |
| holstein | i dont think you can dig a .deb out of there though | 04:07 |
| * holstein looking | 04:07 | |
| sinman | i found them they are in /var/cache/apt/archive | 04:08 |
| holstein | var/cache/apt/archives | 04:09 |
| holstein | AH yeah | 04:09 |
| holstein | :) | 04:09 |
| sinman | i see a file that came from the update manager, anyway would it be safe to remove those packages if i ever need to free up space for / | 04:09 |
| holstein | sinman: i wouldnt mess around in there | 04:10 |
| sinman | k | 04:10 |
| holstein | and you got a TB ;) | 04:10 |
| sinman | couldn't hurt to ask | 04:10 |
| holstein | you could do sudo apt-get clean ?? | 04:10 |
| holstein | theres a system janitor too | 04:10 |
| sinman | yep 498GB for ubuntu and 498GB for ubuntustudio | 04:11 |
| holstein | sinman: check out ubuntutweak too | 04:11 |
| sinman | k i will | 04:11 |
| holstein | theres some interesting package management options in there | 04:11 |
| holstein | if it were my box | 04:11 |
| holstein | i would do a 200GB ubuntu install | 04:11 |
| holstein | and partition the rest and call it storage or whatever | 04:11 |
| holstein | just my opinion | 04:14 |
| sinman | right now how i got the partition setup is /boot (200MB) the first LVM ubuntu with 2 groups / (65GB) and /home (150) sda3 swap (4GB) then second lvm my ubuntu studio setup like the first LVM | 04:14 |
| holstein | is it a desktop? | 04:15 |
| sinman | yes, it's my desktop computer | 04:15 |
| holstein | i probably wouldnt do LVM then either | 04:15 |
| sinman | i have the /home encrypted | 04:15 |
| sinman | today was the first day messing with LVM I just wanted to check it out and learn how to do it | 04:16 |
| holstein | i dont do anything on my audio box that would decrease performance | 04:16 |
| holstein | maybe that doesnt | 04:16 |
| holstein | sinman: i hear you | 04:16 |
| holstein | learning experience :) | 04:16 |
| sinman | yes it is | 04:17 |
| sinman | I use to mess with linux in the past for a very short time and went back to windows. but this time I been using linux for about couple of weeks and don't have the urge to put windows 7 back in | 04:18 |
| holstein | looks like its this easy | 04:19 |
| holstein | sudo rm -fr /home/USERNAME/.Trash | 04:19 |
| holstein | http://everyjoe.com/technology/force-empty-your-trash-from-the-command-line/ | 04:20 |
| sinman | i done that and nothing | 04:20 |
| holstein | yeah, when you get something stable rockin, you'll be converted | 04:20 |
| sinman | the thing this time i'm using a completely different username than what i used in the past, so would that matter | 04:21 |
| holstein | sinman: the files are still in the trash? | 04:21 |
| sinman | yes | 04:21 |
| holstein | is this lucid? | 04:22 |
| holstein | not maverick? | 04:22 |
| sinman | yes | 04:22 |
| holstein | hmmmm | 04:22 |
| holstein | we.. | 04:23 |
| holstein | well* | 04:23 |
| sinman | i only have ubuntu alternative amd64 10.04.01 lts and ubuntu studio alternatyive amd64 10.04 | 04:23 |
| holstein | you can boot from a live CD | 04:23 |
| holstein | and nuke 'em | 04:23 |
| sinman | how would i do that from the live cd | 04:23 |
| holstein | but im skeptical that this is not a symptom of a larger promlem | 04:24 |
| holstein | sinman: same way | 04:24 |
| sinman | k | 04:24 |
| holstein | just sudo rm the files | 04:24 |
| holstein | just be careful in there ;) | 04:24 |
| sinman | always | 04:24 |
| holstein | if it were me | 04:24 |
| holstein | id boot the other install | 04:25 |
| holstein | and try it there | 04:25 |
| holstein | probably google for a couple more hours | 04:25 |
| sinman | but i'm afraid even cd to the location i won't see anything like i do now, just in the trash can | 04:25 |
| holstein | then try the live CD | 04:25 |
| holstein | sinman: maybe | 04:25 |
| holstein | thats interesting | 04:25 |
| sinman | I been thinking of doing a full format of my HDD | 04:25 |
| holstein | you got fresh installs though | 04:26 |
| holstein | that might not be a bad idea | 04:26 |
| holstein | really wipe it | 04:26 |
| holstein | test it really good while your at it | 04:26 |
| sinman | need to goto seagate and see if i can download something from there site and put on a cd | 04:26 |
| sinman | if i can do a slow format with 0's then I know it will fix this problem. lol | 04:27 |
| holstein | sinman: check out | 04:27 |
| holstein | http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/ | 04:27 |
| holstein | all kinds of vendor tools on there | 04:28 |
| sinman | kewl on the page now | 04:28 |
| holstein | and parted magic | 04:28 |
| holstein | photorec | 04:28 |
| holstein | not that you need that | 04:28 |
| holstein | but some handy tools | 04:28 |
| Anvoid | is there a recommend list of setup equipment to use with ubuntustudio audio production? new to field and trying to search for suggest setup that's compatible with ubuntu | 19:58 |
| jussi | !hcl | Anvoid | 20:18 |
| ubottu | Anvoid: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection | 20:18 |
| jussi | not sure how well maintained that is | 20:18 |
| jussi | Anvoid: however, most stuff from m-audio is pretty good. | 20:19 |
| dku | Hi all! I'm looking for a simple program where i could load up drops and quickly access them (prequeued, of course, ready to play) during a live performance. No mixing of fading or anything needed, just a simple drop player, any suggestions? | 22:15 |
| dku | *mixing or fading | 22:15 |
| holstein | dku: hey | 22:15 |
| holstein | can you just que them up in a player? | 22:15 |
| dku | holstein, do you know of any ones that would play instantly? (i tried out banshee and rhythmbox, but they take a split second to load the file) | 22:16 |
| holstein | maybe VLC ?? | 22:17 |
| holstein | not sure about the playlist support | 22:17 |
| holstein | something light though should do it | 22:17 |
| holstein | lemme look | 22:17 |
| dku | well, it's not really a playlist, they would be played on demand | 22:17 |
| dku | i just need quick access to them, and for them to play instantly | 22:17 |
| holstein | dku: a also looke at http://sourceforge.net/projects/jbuzzer/ | 22:18 |
| holstein | you can map to qwerty keys | 22:18 |
| dku | ooh that's pretty cool | 22:18 |
| holstein | and it seemed to play right off | 22:18 |
| holstein | it was probably jaunty or karmic when i last tried it | 22:18 |
| dku | i'm gonna try that out right now, thanks! | 22:19 |
| holstein | but it should still work | 22:19 |
| holstein | didnt really need much | 22:19 |
| holstein | dku: :) | 22:19 |
| prep | How do I uninstall Ubuntu Studio? I upgraded to Maervick, would just like it only, installed on this particular machine. | 22:34 |
| holstein | hey prep | 22:35 |
| holstein | just go to synaptic | 22:35 |
| holstein | and search ubuntustudio | 22:35 |
| prep | what up Holstein. | 22:35 |
| holstein | uninstall whatever is installed | 22:35 |
| holstein | and make sure you have ubuntu-dekstop installed | 22:35 |
| holstein | should be that easy | 22:35 |
| holstein | prep: if you upgraded the packages | 22:37 |
| holstein | you should be able to just change the theme back to the normal ubuntu one | 22:37 |
| prep | cool. Done kicking tires on this machine. Ordering the new atom dual core in a few weeks | 22:37 |
| holstein | prep: nice | 22:38 |
| prep | I'll wait for the 10/10 release of maverick | 22:38 |
| holstein | you mean the final? | 22:38 |
| holstein | 10.10? | 22:39 |
| prep | yep | 22:39 |
| prep | release date | 22:39 |
| holstein | not sure much will change | 22:39 |
| holstein | i think we're past beta freeze | 22:39 |
| prep | weird thing is, my ubuntu one music store will not play the samples. | 22:39 |
| holstein | do you have codecs installed? | 22:39 |
| holstein | are they mp3's? | 22:40 |
| prep | yes, everything else is fine, bu the stoe | 22:40 |
| prep | store | 22:40 |
| holstein | who knows | 22:40 |
| holstein | i think that is still a work in progress | 22:40 |
| prep | kind of a bummer, was working, as was Jack | 22:40 |
| holstein | when? | 22:41 |
| holstein | in lucid? | 22:41 |
| prep | yep | 22:41 |
| holstein | yeah, i ran lucid early alpha | 22:41 |
| prep | Bad thing about the HP, is no firewire or express slot | 22:42 |
| holstein | it can be a lot of work | 22:42 |
| holstein | reporting all the errors | 22:42 |
| holstein | and trying all the fixes | 22:42 |
| holstein | prep: :/ | 22:42 |
| holstein | yeah, that sucks | 22:42 |
| prep | maybe I can wait see if someone releases a netbook that will. I asked System 76, no plans for new machines | 22:43 |
| holstein | nah | 22:43 |
| holstein | they wont | 22:44 |
| holstein | i have an early mininote | 22:44 |
| holstein | HP | 22:44 |
| holstein | with an express card slot | 22:44 |
| holstein | but thats over now | 22:44 |
| prep | wish someone would start a company geared towards multimedia work | 22:44 |
| holstein | indamix | 22:46 |
| holstein | http://www.indamixx.com/ | 22:47 |
| prep | yeah, it's kinda cool. what version of tux are they running | 22:47 |
| holstein | transmission is pretty much 64studio | 22:47 |
| prep | oh, well I favore Ubuntu | 22:47 |
| holstein | probably is ubuntu | 22:47 |
| holstein | probably hardy | 22:47 |
| holstein | like the last stable 64studio | 22:48 |
| prep | but non of the cool new stuff | 22:48 |
| holstein | yeah, but stable | 22:48 |
| holstein | and you can pay for it :) | 22:48 |
| holstein | some folks feel more comfortable paying for things | 22:48 |
| holstein | really not a bad price | 22:49 |
| holstein | i think its 90 bucks | 22:49 |
| holstein | try buying OSX or win + protools for that ;) | 22:49 |
| prep | HA, I just left Apple. Worked there for 3 months. I have been a Mac user since 98, but after working there, too much corporate kool-aid being poured | 22:51 |
| prep | So there's not any USB interfaces that work well with linux? | 22:54 |
| holstein | sure | 22:55 |
| holstein | i dont like them | 22:55 |
| prep | like? | 22:55 |
| holstein | but the zoom H4 is quite nice | 22:55 |
| holstein | i would have a zoom H4 | 22:55 |
| holstein | other than that, i dont like to do audio over USB | 22:55 |
| prep | That's pretty cool. I didn't know it was also an interface. Works out of the box? | 22:57 |
| holstein | prep: if its not out of the box | 22:57 |
| holstein | its easy | 22:57 |
| holstein | and i know it works well | 22:57 |
| holstein | pipeman has one | 22:57 |
| prep | well....... | 22:57 |
| holstein | over in #opensourcemusicians | 22:57 |
| prep | does it have balanced outputs? | 22:57 |
| holstein | and the preamps are pretty sweet | 22:57 |
| holstein | prep: its got xlr ins | 22:58 |
| holstein | with phantom powere | 22:58 |
| prep | Ok, so how do you run out to your mons? | 22:58 |
| holstein | never really asked about the way ou | 22:58 |
| holstein | t | 22:58 |
| holstein | as long as i can get from source to hard drive balanced | 22:59 |
| holstein | im OK | 22:59 |
| prep | hmmm | 22:59 |
| prep | it has 1/4 out, ;-/ | 23:00 |
| prep | dang | 23:00 |
| holstein | balanced ins | 23:00 |
| prep | yes | 23:00 |
| holstein | you'll never need to transfer fromit | 23:01 |
| holstein | from it* | 23:01 |
| holstein | you can do USB tranfer | 23:01 |
| holstein | transfer* | 23:01 |
| prep | I have to monitor out | 23:01 |
| holstein | sure | 23:01 |
| holstein | just plug it in | 23:01 |
| holstein | prep: you use headhones? | 23:01 |
| holstein | those are unbalanced | 23:01 |
| prep | yes when tracking, but when I mix I used powered monitors, which I prefer balanced | 23:02 |
| holstein | well, sure | 23:02 |
| holstein | but the signal going to tape is balanced | 23:02 |
| holstein | so i wouldnt lose any sleep over it | 23:02 |
| prep | true | 23:02 |
| prep | http://www.pssl.com/!ztmEYNLMBJ0QrFRsnJis6A!/Zoom-H4N-Stereo-Portable-Field-Recorder-s | 23:03 |
| holstein | yup | 23:04 |
| holstein | i would look around though | 23:04 |
| holstein | i think we can get them under 200 US | 23:04 |
| prep | I'll look. That would be perfect with my new machine, Ardour Maverick | 23:04 |
| holstein | its quite nice | 23:05 |
| holstein | if you only need 2 channels at a time | 23:05 |
| holstein | and the preamps will push whatever | 23:06 |
| holstein | so you dont need any other gear if you get a fancy mic | 23:06 |
| prep | very true | 23:06 |
| prep | thanks for the info | 23:06 |
| holstein | AND | 23:07 |
| holstein | its stand alone too | 23:07 |
| holstein | so you can carry that and your fancy mic | 23:07 |
| holstein | and do whatever anywhere | 23:07 |
| prep | I'm liking that a lot | 23:07 |
| holstein | and bring the .wav's back to ardour | 23:07 |
| holstein | i would totally have one | 23:07 |
| holstein | if my firepod wasnt portable | 23:08 |
| holstein | if i just have a couple extra hundred bucks laying about | 23:08 |
| prep | well looks like I found the perfect solution | 23:08 |
| holstein | thats top of my list | 23:08 |
| prep | Now if Ardour would release 3 with MIDI. I'd be in heaven | 23:09 |
| holstein | soon i bet | 23:09 |
| holstein | i think there are beta's out for testing | 23:09 |
| prep | really? | 23:10 |
| prep | This will be a great fall | 23:10 |
| prep | Ok, I have to get ready, Tennessee State Fair, get my fat on | 23:10 |
| prep | thanks a heap | 23:10 |
| prep | be easy | 23:10 |
| holstein | prep: laterx | 23:11 |
| dku | holstein: interestingly enough, my final solution was to use mc and mpg321 | 23:22 |
| holstein | dku: hey | 23:23 |
| holstein | whatever works :) | 23:23 |
| dku | yep, gotta love the ol' midnight commander ;) | 23:23 |
| dku | and mpg321 loads really fast | 23:23 |
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