[03:56] was wondering if i might can get some help in this channel since I'm not getting any in the #ubuntu channel [03:56] sinman: whatsup? [03:57] I have completely redone my computer several times now and the trash is still showing the same things in it in both ubuntu and ubuntu studio [03:57] 'trash' ?? [03:57] and both of these isn't sharing nothing except the swap [03:57] you mean the trash can? [03:57] yes [03:57] AH [03:57] exactly mirrored? [03:58] the trash cans? [03:58] it look like it [03:58] whats the issue? [03:58] yes they both have the same thing [03:58] can you restore from either one? [03:58] that would be kinda cool [03:59] whats you partitioning like? [03:59] did you add a shared volume to /etc/fstab or something? [03:59] maybe some partition is being read by both installations [03:59] about a week ago i was doing some clean up of things i downloaded, and I moved them to the trash. I forgotten about but had to redo everything including the install and ever since I keep getting the same files in the trash can [03:59] no [04:00] sinman: have you cleared the trash [04:00] this is fresh install of both as of today [04:00] yeah? [04:00] i tried but it won't clear them [04:00] sinman: why dual boot? [04:00] i want to use ubuntu for gaming, and learn programmin, and use ubuntu studio for multimedia stuff only [04:01] there the same [04:01] really [04:01] when i used XP [04:01] i had 2 installs [04:01] one that i used daily [04:01] and one for studio work [04:02] a really minimal install [04:02] linux doesnt really need that [04:02] but, do what you want [04:02] sinman: i think you should research forcing the trash to clear [04:02] and then run some tests [04:02] i have a 1TB HDD so I figure doing a dual boot would use the space be a better choice [04:03] but why are they still there when i delete the partition and change the size of / and /home partition [04:03] and this time I'm using LVM [04:04] not sure [04:04] thats interesting [04:04] exactly [04:04] i would still research forcing the trash to empty [04:04] and run some test [04:05] throw some things away [04:05] and monitor the behavior [04:05] the /home is nowhere the size that they use to be before i started to use LVM (which is today) [04:05] i will [04:06] another question the synaptic when u download from it where does it save the files at. I know someplace in the /var folder [04:07] hmmm [04:07] i dont think you can dig a .deb out of there though [04:07] * holstein looking [04:08] i found them they are in /var/cache/apt/archive [04:09] var/cache/apt/archives [04:09] AH yeah [04:09] :) [04:09] i see a file that came from the update manager, anyway would it be safe to remove those packages if i ever need to free up space for / [04:10] sinman: i wouldnt mess around in there [04:10] k [04:10] and you got a TB ;) [04:10] couldn't hurt to ask [04:10] you could do sudo apt-get clean ?? [04:10] theres a system janitor too [04:11] yep 498GB for ubuntu and 498GB for ubuntustudio [04:11] sinman: check out ubuntutweak too [04:11] k i will [04:11] theres some interesting package management options in there [04:11] if it were my box [04:11] i would do a 200GB ubuntu install [04:11] and partition the rest and call it storage or whatever [04:14] just my opinion [04:14] right now how i got the partition setup is /boot (200MB) the first LVM ubuntu with 2 groups / (65GB) and /home (150) sda3 swap (4GB) then second lvm my ubuntu studio setup like the first LVM [04:15] is it a desktop? [04:15] yes, it's my desktop computer [04:15] i probably wouldnt do LVM then either [04:15] i have the /home encrypted [04:16] today was the first day messing with LVM I just wanted to check it out and learn how to do it [04:16] i dont do anything on my audio box that would decrease performance [04:16] maybe that doesnt [04:16] sinman: i hear you [04:16] learning experience :) [04:17] yes it is [04:18] I use to mess with linux in the past for a very short time and went back to windows. but this time I been using linux for about couple of weeks and don't have the urge to put windows 7 back in [04:19] looks like its this easy [04:19] sudo rm -fr /home/USERNAME/.Trash [04:20] http://everyjoe.com/technology/force-empty-your-trash-from-the-command-line/ [04:20] i done that and nothing [04:20] yeah, when you get something stable rockin, you'll be converted [04:21] the thing this time i'm using a completely different username than what i used in the past, so would that matter [04:21] sinman: the files are still in the trash? [04:21] yes [04:22] is this lucid? [04:22] not maverick? [04:22] yes [04:22] hmmmm [04:23] we.. [04:23] well* [04:23] i only have ubuntu alternative amd64 10.04.01 lts and ubuntu studio alternatyive amd64 10.04 [04:23] you can boot from a live CD [04:23] and nuke 'em [04:23] how would i do that from the live cd [04:24] but im skeptical that this is not a symptom of a larger promlem [04:24] sinman: same way [04:24] k [04:24] just sudo rm the files [04:24] just be careful in there ;) [04:24] always [04:24] if it were me [04:25] id boot the other install [04:25] and try it there [04:25] probably google for a couple more hours [04:25] but i'm afraid even cd to the location i won't see anything like i do now, just in the trash can [04:25] then try the live CD [04:25] sinman: maybe [04:25] thats interesting [04:25] I been thinking of doing a full format of my HDD [04:26] you got fresh installs though [04:26] that might not be a bad idea [04:26] really wipe it [04:26] test it really good while your at it [04:26] need to goto seagate and see if i can download something from there site and put on a cd [04:27] if i can do a slow format with 0's then I know it will fix this problem. lol [04:27] sinman: check out [04:27] http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/ [04:28] all kinds of vendor tools on there [04:28] kewl on the page now [04:28] and parted magic [04:28] photorec [04:28] not that you need that [04:28] but some handy tools [19:58] is there a recommend list of setup equipment to use with ubuntustudio audio production? new to field and trying to search for suggest setup that's compatible with ubuntu [20:18] !hcl | Anvoid [20:18] Anvoid: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection [20:18] not sure how well maintained that is [20:19] Anvoid: however, most stuff from m-audio is pretty good. [22:15] Hi all! I'm looking for a simple program where i could load up drops and quickly access them (prequeued, of course, ready to play) during a live performance. No mixing of fading or anything needed, just a simple drop player, any suggestions? [22:15] *mixing or fading [22:15] dku: hey [22:15] can you just que them up in a player? [22:16] holstein, do you know of any ones that would play instantly? (i tried out banshee and rhythmbox, but they take a split second to load the file) [22:17] maybe VLC ?? [22:17] not sure about the playlist support [22:17] something light though should do it [22:17] lemme look [22:17] well, it's not really a playlist, they would be played on demand [22:17] i just need quick access to them, and for them to play instantly [22:18] dku: a also looke at http://sourceforge.net/projects/jbuzzer/ [22:18] you can map to qwerty keys [22:18] ooh that's pretty cool [22:18] and it seemed to play right off [22:18] it was probably jaunty or karmic when i last tried it [22:19] i'm gonna try that out right now, thanks! [22:19] but it should still work [22:19] didnt really need much [22:19] dku: :) [22:34] How do I uninstall Ubuntu Studio? I upgraded to Maervick, would just like it only, installed on this particular machine. [22:35] hey prep [22:35] just go to synaptic [22:35] and search ubuntustudio [22:35] what up Holstein. [22:35] uninstall whatever is installed [22:35] and make sure you have ubuntu-dekstop installed [22:35] should be that easy [22:37] prep: if you upgraded the packages [22:37] you should be able to just change the theme back to the normal ubuntu one [22:37] cool. Done kicking tires on this machine. Ordering the new atom dual core in a few weeks [22:38] prep: nice [22:38] I'll wait for the 10/10 release of maverick [22:38] you mean the final? [22:39] 10.10? [22:39] yep [22:39] release date [22:39] not sure much will change [22:39] i think we're past beta freeze [22:39] weird thing is, my ubuntu one music store will not play the samples. [22:39] do you have codecs installed? [22:40] are they mp3's? [22:40] yes, everything else is fine, bu the stoe [22:40] store [22:40] who knows [22:40] i think that is still a work in progress [22:40] kind of a bummer, was working, as was Jack [22:41] when? [22:41] in lucid? [22:41] yep [22:41] yeah, i ran lucid early alpha [22:42] Bad thing about the HP, is no firewire or express slot [22:42] it can be a lot of work [22:42] reporting all the errors [22:42] and trying all the fixes [22:42] prep: :/ [22:42] yeah, that sucks [22:43] maybe I can wait see if someone releases a netbook that will. I asked System 76, no plans for new machines [22:43] nah [22:44] they wont [22:44] i have an early mininote [22:44] HP [22:44] with an express card slot [22:44] but thats over now [22:44] wish someone would start a company geared towards multimedia work [22:46] indamix [22:47] http://www.indamixx.com/ [22:47] yeah, it's kinda cool. what version of tux are they running [22:47] transmission is pretty much 64studio [22:47] oh, well I favore Ubuntu [22:47] probably is ubuntu [22:47] probably hardy [22:48] like the last stable 64studio [22:48] but non of the cool new stuff [22:48] yeah, but stable [22:48] and you can pay for it :) [22:48] some folks feel more comfortable paying for things [22:49] really not a bad price [22:49] i think its 90 bucks [22:49] try buying OSX or win + protools for that ;) [22:51] HA, I just left Apple. Worked there for 3 months. I have been a Mac user since 98, but after working there, too much corporate kool-aid being poured [22:54] So there's not any USB interfaces that work well with linux? [22:55] sure [22:55] i dont like them [22:55] like? [22:55] but the zoom H4 is quite nice [22:55] i would have a zoom H4 [22:55] other than that, i dont like to do audio over USB [22:57] That's pretty cool. I didn't know it was also an interface. Works out of the box? [22:57] prep: if its not out of the box [22:57] its easy [22:57] and i know it works well [22:57] pipeman has one [22:57] well....... [22:57] over in #opensourcemusicians [22:57] does it have balanced outputs? [22:57] and the preamps are pretty sweet [22:58] prep: its got xlr ins [22:58] with phantom powere [22:58] Ok, so how do you run out to your mons? [22:58] never really asked about the way ou [22:58] t [22:59] as long as i can get from source to hard drive balanced [22:59] im OK [22:59] hmmm [23:00] it has 1/4 out, ;-/ [23:00] dang [23:00] balanced ins [23:00] yes [23:01] you'll never need to transfer fromit [23:01] from it* [23:01] you can do USB tranfer [23:01] transfer* [23:01] I have to monitor out [23:01] sure [23:01] just plug it in [23:01] prep: you use headhones? [23:01] those are unbalanced [23:02] yes when tracking, but when I mix I used powered monitors, which I prefer balanced [23:02] well, sure [23:02] but the signal going to tape is balanced [23:02] so i wouldnt lose any sleep over it [23:02] true [23:03] http://www.pssl.com/!ztmEYNLMBJ0QrFRsnJis6A!/Zoom-H4N-Stereo-Portable-Field-Recorder-s [23:04] yup [23:04] i would look around though [23:04] i think we can get them under 200 US [23:04] I'll look. That would be perfect with my new machine, Ardour Maverick [23:05] its quite nice [23:05] if you only need 2 channels at a time [23:06] and the preamps will push whatever [23:06] so you dont need any other gear if you get a fancy mic [23:06] very true [23:06] thanks for the info [23:07] AND [23:07] its stand alone too [23:07] so you can carry that and your fancy mic [23:07] and do whatever anywhere [23:07] I'm liking that a lot [23:07] and bring the .wav's back to ardour [23:07] i would totally have one [23:08] if my firepod wasnt portable [23:08] if i just have a couple extra hundred bucks laying about [23:08] well looks like I found the perfect solution [23:08] thats top of my list [23:09] Now if Ardour would release 3 with MIDI. I'd be in heaven [23:09] soon i bet [23:09] i think there are beta's out for testing [23:10] really? [23:10] This will be a great fall [23:10] Ok, I have to get ready, Tennessee State Fair, get my fat on [23:10] thanks a heap [23:10] be easy [23:11] prep: laterx [23:22] holstein: interestingly enough, my final solution was to use mc and mpg321 [23:23] dku: hey [23:23] whatever works :) [23:23] yep, gotta love the ol' midnight commander ;) [23:23] and mpg321 loads really fast