| TheBiggerGuycom | Hi, is there anyone who can help me with https://bugs.launchpad.net/upstart/+bug/637172 | 14:54 |
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| bvleur | Hi. I'm wondering why a script with "start on started ssh" can launch processes with a lower pid than "sshd" | 15:19 |
| ashb | bvleur: because pids are fairly random | 15:21 |
| ashb | and the sshd might well fork | 15:21 |
| bvleur | okay. fair enough. I've created a script that runs autossh with remote forward to localhost:22. It seems that running it before sshd is up makes the forward fail, so I want to make sure they start in order. PIDs don't tell me the boot order then right? | 15:23 |
| yaaang | is it possible to use upstart (init, start, etc) as non-root? | 19:31 |
| yaaang | would like to daemonize & manage processes without requiring root; supervisord seems to fit the bill but i was wondering if i should also take a deeper look at upstart | 19:32 |
| JanC | yaaang: why not use sudo to manage who can start/stop/etc. system daemons without needing to give them general root access? | 19:36 |
| yaaang | JanC: that can also restrict to starting/stopping specific services? | 19:37 |
| JanC | yaaang: yes, see the sudoers manpage for examples | 19:38 |
| JanC | you can restrict people to specific commands including parameters etc. | 19:39 |
| JanC | plus, with sudo every time they use this, it will be logged | 19:40 |
| ion | A future release of Upstart will handle users’ jobs as well. | 19:46 |
| yaaang | JanC: how does a non-root user add/remove jobs? | 19:46 |
| yaaang | ion: ah, i see | 19:47 |
| JanC | you could create a script to add a new job and allow users to use that script with sudo, but of course that has serious security implications | 19:49 |
| yaaang | JanC: right | 19:49 |
| JanC | I suppose it wouldn't too difficult to create a system-wide upstart job that looks for user-specific job files though | 19:50 |
| yaaang | maybe even easier than that is the supervisord route - just let users run their own process management daemons | 19:51 |
| JanC | I don't know supervisord, but probably it could be that upstart-job ;) | 19:53 |
| JanC | at least until upstart grows these features itself | 19:54 |
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