[00:01] <craigwdy2k> Is the Debian Weekly Build essentially an Debian Installer that installs Testing & gives you a choice of either XFCE or LXDE...?  Because that's what I suspect it might be...  Anybody here ever tried this flavor of Debian...?
[00:14] <craigwdy2k> Well: I have no better ideas so I guess I'll have to be the guinea pig...  Wish me luck...
[00:17] <craigwdy2k> If the Debian Testing based distro has any issues I'll probably try PC/OS next...
[00:18] <knome> craigwdy2k, please, this is a xubuntu support channel.
[00:19] <craigwdy2k> Oh well: if I could get that ISO to boot I wouldn't be in the position I'm in now...
[00:20] <craigwdy2k> Either of the two actually...
[01:24] <illmind> hey all. I need some help. I'm trying to update linux from current: "Linux gen 2.6.31-22-generic #63-Ubuntu SMP Wed Aug 18 22:54:26 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux" to the next version but I dont have enough room
[01:25] <illmind> what is the best place to find unneeded temporary files?
[09:47] <owner> Is it possible to install shockwave onto xubuntu's firefox, without using wine and windows firefox?
[14:49] <pfifo> whats the best application to view and print pdf files with? xpdf is ugly and hurts my eyes, evince wants to install 600MB of gnome packages, any suggestions?
[14:51] <pfifo> will adobe reader work correctly?
[14:52] <charlie-tca> What version of Xubuntu?
[14:53] <charlie-tca> evince should have been a default installed application in Xubuntu. Which version are you running that did not install it?
[14:54] <pfifo> charlie-tca, well technically its 8.04 ubuntu minimal install with xfce4 added on later, mostly a server box so Im trying to avoid installing tons of gui stuff
[14:55] <pfifo> but atm im in need of something to view a pdf
[14:55] <charlie-tca> I haven't used adobe reader in several years. I pretty stay with evince now.
[14:55] <Sysi> you still can't use xpdf?
[14:56] <pfifo> is it possible to twist dpkg's arm and make it not install a bunch of recommended and extras
[14:56] <pfifo> xpdf works, but the important part of this solution is printing
[14:56] <pfifo> xpdf dosent like printers
[14:58] <charlie-tca> There is a "--no-recommended" or similar command for aptitude, I think, that installs without the extra packages
[14:58] <charlie-tca> That may not allow evince to work though
[14:59] <Sysi> apt-get for some reason installs less useless stuff than aptitude
[15:00] <charlie-tca> but no matter how you force the package to install without dependencies and recommends, it may not work right
[15:00] <pfifo> yeah but i mean its a pdf viewer, 252MB is kinda heavy. Why on earth dose evince need esound-daemon? do they put mp3's in pdf's now-a-days?
[15:01] <Sysi> you actually can put .exe in pdf
[15:01] <pfifo> yes, but i think you see what i mean
[15:01] <Sysi> some stuff are just packaging, if not libraries or something
[15:03] <pfifo> i guess ill just go with xpdf then, google docs can be a pretty looking front end if i really need it
[15:04] <pfifo> also, im using 10.04 at the moment and I love simple-scan, why cant i install thins on 8.04
[15:05] <charlie-tca> it wasn't written for it
[15:06] <charlie-tca> I think the libraries in 8.04 are too old for the simple-scan app
[15:07] <pfifo> is it part of gnome?
[15:14] <charlie-tca> I don't know
[16:23] <kaput450> hi
[16:23] <kaput450> can someone help me, i can not figure out how to edit the grub menu in ubuntu
[16:24] <kaput450> anyone ? :)
[18:01] <slow-motion> hi
[19:37] <secret> hello
[19:37] <secret> Somebody here familiar with linux .so api?
[20:07] <mancio82> Hello!
[20:08] <mancio82> Someone cab help me?
[20:08] <mancio82> can
[20:10] <Sysi> !hi
[20:11] <mancio82> I've a question about USB disk on Xubuntu 10.04
[20:51] <knome> mancio82, just ask and people will most probably help if they know the answer
[22:53] <ircipimp> hi
[22:54] <ircipimp> a friend of mine just looked at my firefox browser and notified the beautiful font. I use the default shipped with x-lucid, which is named "sans" in the control widget. how can i figure out, which font it actually is? I couldn't find any font just named "sans".
[22:55] <ircipimp> it's not FreeSans
[22:55] <ircipimp> that's what i found out
[22:55] <knome> ircipimp, dejavu sans?
[22:57] <ircipimp> yes... i tried by switching to the fonts in question and every time the rendering in firefox changed. for dejavu sans it did not change, so i think this should be it.
[22:57] <ircipimp> is there a way to figure that out without knowing beforehand?
[22:57] <knome> yes, it should be dejavu sans
[22:57] <knome> ircipimp, umm... there is some link from sans to dejavu sans somewhere, but i don't know where that is
[22:58] <ircipimp> ok, thanks a lot
[22:58] <knome> i mean, dejavu sans is specifically set for the default sans font, but i don't know where that is
[22:58] <knome> no problem
[23:00] <ircipimp> yes, i'll have a look at /usr with some find-hackery.
[23:00] <ircipimp> n8