[00:00] <debfx> ScottK: could you sync qtmobility: bug #637645
[02:08] <ScottK> lex79: OK.
[02:08] <ScottK> debfx: Did you check our existing diff to see if we need to keep any of it?
[02:15] <ScottK> Sigh.  Now it looks like I have chromium CSD and kwin decorations both on chromium.
[02:17] <lex79> ScottK: I think we should backport oxygen from 4.5.2, there are many bugs fixed, especially with nvidia
[02:17] <ScottK> lex79: OK.  Can we cherry pick stuff now?
[02:17] <lex79> I'm doing
[02:17] <lex79> maybe I can upload something tomorrow
[02:18] <ScottK> Good.
[05:23] <MikieTimT> I have upgraded my 10.04 VirtualBox VM with 10.10 Beta, but cannot get the screen larger than 800X600 even though the host screen is 1024X768.  It makes everything too small to use.  In the absence of an xorg.conf, and since the System Settings display applet only shows up to 800X600, is there anything that I can do to get the screen size back to the full screen?
[05:34] <superfly> Install VirtualBox Guest Additions
[05:44] <MikieTimT> I did, and it still didn't allow me to change to 1024X768, or resize it to a maximized window as before.
[05:46] <MikieTimT> I see the processes running as expected.
[05:46] <MikieTimT> michael   1057     1  0 21:06 ?        00:00:00 /usr/bin/VBoxClient --clipboard
[05:46] <MikieTimT> michael   1068     1  0 21:06 ?        00:00:00 /usr/bin/VBoxClient --display
[05:46] <MikieTimT> michael   1074     1  0 21:06 ?        00:00:00 /usr/bin/VBoxClient --seamless
[05:46] <MikieTimT> root       769     1  0 21:06 ?        00:00:04 /usr/sbin/VBoxService
[06:34] <jussi> Hrm, what is the backports PPA for again? (the ppas confuzzle me) :D
[06:43] <fabo> rgreening: Qt Mobility 1.0.2-2 is fine
[06:52] <zegenie> regarding this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kopete/+bug/625088
[06:53] <zegenie> will the updated package be backported to lucid any time soon, too - or is this fix only for mav?
[09:52] <apachelogger_> o/
[10:15] <KRF> \o
[10:28] <zegenie> \o/
[10:50] <debfx> omg I has QtAssistant with QtWebkit view :D
[10:52] <debfx> ScottK: yes, I checked the diff, there are no ubuntu changes left in qtmobility
[10:53] <debfx> Debian picked them up and/or we cherry-picked from Debian git
[11:05] <apachelogger> weeh
[11:05] <apachelogger> the design team is taking over the planet
[11:05] <apachelogger> ^^
[11:16] <sheytan> Hey guys :)
[11:16] <debfx> apachelogger: any ideas for bug #624697 ?
[11:16] <sheytan> What about including to the next release of Kubuntu things like 'restore from backup' in the boot menu or somwhere in the system?
[11:17] <sheytan> this would be cool, to backup whole system, all apps, all settings, files, etc, then only restore with few clicks
[12:55] <sheytan> Does kubuntu-restricted-extras download 32bit libs only for flash?
[12:57] <debfx> probably
[12:58] <sheytan> Btw, what about add software management to favourites in kickoff?
[12:58] <sheytan> this will be cool for new users
[12:59] <sheytan> i don't know if it's a bug, but when i choose polish for installation, it doesn't apply to KDE
[12:59] <sheytan> only for the system
[13:14] <debfx> sheytan: which software management tool?
[13:14] <sheytan> debfx default, kpackagekit
[13:14] <debfx> it's already in the Computer tab
[13:15] <debfx> hm system settings is in both
[13:15] <ulysses> sheytan: I think this language issue is not only related to Polish, I can confirm it in Hungarian too
[13:16] <sheytan> ulyssess i'll file a bug, cause it's confusing. You choose other language then english, and you expect your OS to use it, instead you still get english
[13:17] <ulysses> Even if you have internet connection to download the language packs
[13:18] <sheytan> yep
[13:20] <ulysses> This remember me that I have to work on translations:)
[13:26] <sheytan> ulysses where do i should report that bug?
[13:28] <ulysses> Maybe it is related to Ubiquity?
[14:04] <ScottK> debfx: I approved the qtmobilty sync, just need to wait for an archive admin to do it.
[14:22] <apachelogger> debfx: when I read that over lunch I knew that this question would come up ;)
[14:23] <apachelogger> debfx: does it actually link against qtwebkit?
[14:23] <apachelogger> otherwise we probably just need to patch buildtime detection to runtime detection
[14:23] <debfx> apachelogger: yes
[14:23] <apachelogger> hm
[14:26] <apachelogger> debfx: doing some fancy build split is the only option then I think
[14:27] <apachelogger> of course that means silly delta with debian...
[14:28] <debfx> yes, but it's either that or we ship a broken assistant
[14:28] <apachelogger> latter is no option
[14:28] <apachelogger> or we deliberately cause a circular dep
[14:29] <apachelogger> which I would honestly prefer since this whole situation will resolve for Qt 4.8 anyway
[14:34] <apachelogger> debfx: how about.... we build the internal qtwebkit (assuming the used symbols are binary compatible with the standalone version) but don't install it and force the package with assistant to depend on the standalone lib
[14:35] <apachelogger> completely hackish but proper since we;d force dependency on a particular (BC ) version manually
[14:36] <debfx> would probably work but we need to patch qt so it doesn't add webkit to QT_CONFIG
[14:36] <apachelogger> *nod*
[14:46] <debfx> oh webkit is already seperated from qbase.pri
[14:46] <debfx> that's nice
[15:02] <shadeslayer> ScottK: i get that error as well, but video plays after that
[15:02] <ScottK> shadeslayer: The xbel one?
[15:03] <shadeslayer> Ugandas hometown hero
[15:03] <ScottK> Oh, the video
[15:04] <ScottK> I got audio, but no video.
[15:04] <shadeslayer> um wait... either its loading or its broken.. i just have a black screen for now...
[15:04] <shadeslayer> but then my internet is sloooowww
[15:04] <shadeslayer> yeah it starts
[15:05] <shadeslayer> video+audio
[15:06] <shadeslayer> ScottK: http://imgur.com/NcDFK
[15:07] <ScottK> Maybe I underestimate how slow rekonq is.  I'll try again later.
[15:08] <shadeslayer> um.. video started slow because i had a download running on chromium :P
[15:10] <shadeslayer> ScottK: and btw open http://kitterman.com/kubuntu/still_bad_rekonq on rekonq ;)
[15:11] <shadeslayer> and kde bug 242886
[15:54] <shadeslayer> ScottK: the problem is a issue with kwebkit.. and theres no patch we can use to fix, so  < insert name of super awesome ninja here > has to come up with patch and patch our packages
[15:55] <shadeslayer> and by super awesome ninja i mean apachelogger
[15:58] <dantti_work> where is the qt-assistant in maverick?
[15:58] <dantti_work> the compat one does not seems to have the doc files
[16:01] <debfx> dantti_work: the qt assistant application?
[16:01] <dantti_work> yup
[16:01] <debfx> qt4-dev-tools
[16:01] <dantti_work> the compat package installed it but it does not have docs
[16:01] <dantti_work> hmm thanks :)
[16:02] <dantti_work> debfx: btw do you know why qt4.7 assistant has a so weird theme (seems like a wrong css)
[16:03] <shadeslayer> whats qt-docs then?
[16:03] <shadeslayer> !info qt4-doc
[16:04] <dantti_work> when I look at this http://simplest-image-hosting.net/jpg-0-plasma-desktoplq1514  I almost prefer to use qt online docs...
[16:05] <rbelem> dantti_work, because of a bug caused bu the qtwebkit separation
[16:06] <dantti_work> rbelem: oh, is there something that I can install to fix that?
[16:06] <rbelem> dantti_work, nope afaik
[16:06] <dantti_work> :(
[16:06] <debfx> dantti_work: no, but I'm working on a fix
[16:07] <dantti_work> debfx: thanks :D
[16:22] <claydoh> how much of an issue do we think the lack of spellcheck in rekonq  will become?
[16:24] <rbelem> ScottK, ping
[16:24] <ScottK> rbelem: Pong.
[16:24] <rbelem> ScottK, :-)
[16:24] <rbelem> ScottK, i just finished the first part of the patch 
[16:24] <rbelem> ScottK, http://paste.ubuntu.com/493700/
[16:26] <agateau> debfx: ping
[16:26] <rbelem> ScottK, there are some stuff to backport  in kdebase-workspace yet
[16:26] <debfx> agateau: pong
[16:26] <agateau> debfx: you work on Amarok package, right?
[16:27] <debfx> yeah
[16:27] <ScottK> rbelem: I'll be offline most of today and tomorrow.  Perhaps apachelogger can review.
[16:27] <rbelem> ScottK, ok :-)
[16:28] <agateau> debfx: I have an appmenu patch for it (one liner) I wanted to integrate it into bzr and do a merge request, but it seems the current bzr branch is for Amarok 2.3.91, what's the prefered way to get a patch integrated in Maverick?
[16:29] <agateau> (I usually bother Riddell with my patches, but as he is away... it's time to learn some new tricks...)
[16:31] <debfx> agateau: I think it's best to create a merge request, then we can backport the patch to 2.3.1
[16:31] <agateau> debfx: ok
[16:39] <agateau> debfx: done: https://code.launchpad.net/~agateau/amarok/appmenu-fix/+merge/35428
[16:39] <ScottK> debfx: Would you please have a look at Debian Bug #596853.  It looks like we may want to fix that and not just sync?
[16:50] <ulysses> sheytan: is there any Kubuntu or KDE template for OOo Impress? I'm going to present the Hungarian KDE translation team, and I want some eyecandy in my presentation
[17:01] <JontheEchidna> lulz: http://imgur.com/oIYBP
[17:02] <ulysses> JontheEchidna: you have to give me some of your RAM:P
[17:03] <ulysses> 6.2 TiB too much
[17:03] <JontheEchidna> quite
[17:16] <sheytan> ulysses i don't really know :)
[17:16] <sheytan> there should be something by default i guess, but i don't use ooo
[17:17] <ulysses> sheytan: I found something on kde.org, but there are a bit old, the latest OOo template is for 4.2...
[17:21] <shadeslayer> sheytan: oh question for you
[17:21] <sheytan> yes? :)
[17:21] <shadeslayer> suppose i have to make a ID card...
[17:21] <ScottK> New mesa is uploaded to maverick, so there is hope for Intel users now.
[17:21] <shadeslayer> PM would be better i think
[17:21] <shadeslayer> ScottK: 
[17:21] <shadeslayer> whoops
[17:43] <shadeslayer> ScottK: did you upload new choqok ?
[17:46] <debfx> hm bzr won't let me merge the branch
[17:47] <debfx> is there a reason not to upgrade the bzr branch format?
[17:51] <nixternal> for some reason, I am enjoying this DMB meeting
[17:51] <nigelb> nixternal: we can see that :p
[17:51] <nixternal> and that was obviously meant for another channel
[17:52] <nigelb> nixternal: I was about to ask you "having fun today at the meeting?" :p
[20:13] <Quintasan_Droid> O/
[20:30] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: what is the problem and what is the issue?
[20:33] <apachelogger> rbelem: I take it upstream is aware of that backport? also, the proposed patch is unclean (it has a debian-changes-4:4.5.1-0ubuntu4 patch - i.e. outside the scope of the backport patch)
[20:35] <rbelem> apachelogger, i think that upstream does not know
[20:36] <apachelogger> rbelem: in that case they should be informed so they can rant to our face rather than behind our back ;)
[20:36] <rbelem> apachelogger, i saw some garbage in the debdiff, how to remove that?
[20:37] <rbelem> apachelogger, eheheh :-D
[20:38] <rbelem> i will talk to notmart and aseigo about that
[20:48] <lex79> ScottK: final freeze is on 16th, but the end or the start of 16th? the question is...can I upload stuff on 16th before midnight?
[20:52] <apachelogger> rbelem: well, you could just dump debian-changes patch (if it is only garbage)
[20:52] <apachelogger> otherwise you could get a new clean source and create the patch again without introducing files outside the scope of the patch :P
[20:53] <apachelogger> rbelem: also there is a bak-kubuntu... diff around
[20:53] <apachelogger> supposedly that is also not desired
[20:53]  * apachelogger thinks that he should write some documentation on how to not get messed up sources ^^
[20:59] <maco> lex79: start of the 16th
[20:59] <lex79> maco: oh, this means I can't upload stuff on 16th?
[20:59] <maco> right
[20:59] <lex79> too bad
[21:00] <lex79> maco: thanks
[21:01] <apachelogger> nixternal: did I mention that the kubuntu feedback plasmoid is brokenish?
[21:02]  * apachelogger is wondering what to put on his desktop to make it less of a useless space
[21:02] <apachelogger> any recommendations?
[21:03] <lex79> a clock apachelogger :P
[21:03] <apachelogger> I got one in my panel, thanks :P
[21:03] <lex79> nah, you need also an analog clock :P
[21:04] <apachelogger> I have an analog clock in my panel :P
[21:04] <nigelb> lex79: or binary clock ;)
[21:04] <lex79> yeah binary is better :)
[21:04] <apachelogger> I had a binary clock before
[21:04] <apachelogger> uses too much space
[21:05] <lex79> apachelogger: note widget where it remember you that you are so brilliant
[21:05] <apachelogger> ohh
[21:07] <apachelogger> lex79:  I must say this makes all sorts of sense
[21:07] <lex79> yeah the widgets are so usefull lol
[21:12] <dantti_work> Riddell: I got a button for you :P http://simplest-image-hosting.net/jpg-0-plasma-desktopa16600
[21:25] <apachelogger> eheheheh
[21:26] <apachelogger> are we putting software-properties-kde to a rest? ^^
[21:46] <claydoh> https://dev.launchpad.net/FailingBzrSvnImports#Launchpad%20code%20bugs are there other methods to pull code into launchpad to set up a daily build ?
[21:46]  * claydoh is probably waayyyy over his head
[21:53] <yofel> claydoh: what do you want to set up a daily build for?
[21:54] <yofel> claydoh: and no, kdesupport and kdebase are broken currently, and if you want to use a recipe you'll need them :(
[21:55] <claydoh> kmymoney's svn trunk I used to do it manually for them, but stopped once stable versions were released
[21:55] <claydoh> now they would like it to come back for some testing
[21:56] <yofel> oh that, ask jelmer in #launchpad if something can be done about that
[21:56] <claydoh> :( oh well it doesn't *have* to be daily, just saw the shiny new tools
[21:56] <yofel> needs some manual layout definition in bzr-svn I think
[21:57] <claydoh> there are a few kde things that failed, i am sure it will get fixed sometime
[21:58] <yofel> claydoh: bug them and it might get fixed faster :P
[21:58] <claydoh> :)
[21:58] <claydoh> little old me?
[22:00] <claydoh> if I was a krafty koder I would just script it all up and go lol
[22:08] <yofel> well, or you can fix the actual bug in lp:bzr-svn -> layout/custom.py. I don't really get the KDELayout definition there..
[22:15] <nigelb> nixternal: Very awful right? :)
[22:15] <nigelb> nixternal: we had an issue with something server-side and they refused to do anything for us about it :/
[22:28] <JontheEchidna> nixternal: btw, with apachelogger's work this cycle on pkg-kde-tools, that NO_KUBUNTU_POT crap should no longer be required :)
[22:29] <JontheEchidna> as the .po mangling crap will only be active on builds for the main component, and not universe, ppa, or local
[23:16] <debfx> apachelogger: this seems to work: http://paste.ubuntu.com/493864/
[23:16] <debfx> makes the qt package 200% more hackish though
[23:32] <maco> nixternal: rackspace!
[23:45] <nixternal> maco: rackspace isn't worth what I need. i get everything rackspace does and then some for way less with dreamhost
[23:45] <maco> nixternal: nigelb said you were having issues with godaddy
[23:45] <nixternal> it would take a lot for me to leave dreamhost. been there for a long time and they hook me up with hosting stuff, like a vps
[23:45] <nixternal> yeah, go daddy is now following me on twitter and dm'ing me to help fix their crap
[23:46] <maco> and i find it nice to have full root on rackspace unlike dreamhost. plus, no worries about other people getting owned and leading to my stuff getting screwed up like with shared hosting
[23:46] <nixternal> they wouldn't help me on the phone, so i resorted to smashing them on twitter
[23:46] <nigelb> nixternal: wow
[23:46] <debfx> JontheEchidna: could you upload the amarok patch from agateau: http://people.ubuntu.com/~debfx/amarok_2.3.1-1ubuntu8.debdiff
[23:46] <nixternal> so far that seems to have worked, and I don't even own that domain
[23:46] <maco> oh dreamhost has vps now?
[23:46] <nixternal> they have had it for a couple of years now
[23:46] <maco> i used them years ago, but i thought they only did shared
[23:46] <nigelb> nixternal: thanks for the tip, now I need to that for some stuff
[23:46] <nixternal> lol
[23:46] <nigelb> they refused to change php version for me
[23:47] <maco> i pay $1 more / month for rackspace than i did for dreamhost shared hosting
[23:47] <JontheEchidna> debfx: sure
[23:47]  * Riddell wanders by
[23:47] <maco> howdy Riddell
[23:47] <maco> Riddell: how was the canoedling?
[23:47] <nixternal> shoot, choqok exceded its limits. sometimes i wish i was using 32bit os so i could install adobe air and use tweetdeck
[23:48] <nixternal> would use seesmic, but those idiots switched to sunlight or whatever that MS crap is
[23:48] <nigelb> nixternal: heh, post to identi.ca and cross post
[23:48] <JontheEchidna> moonlight, maybe?
[23:48] <nixternal> maco: how much bandwidth and storage do you have though?
[23:48] <nixternal> JontheEchidna: yeah, that's it
[23:48] <nixternal> satellites and stars are all the same to me, i am not hawking :p
[23:49] <JontheEchidna> :p
[23:49] <maco> nixternal: i pay a few cents per gig of bandwidth and i think i have like 10 or 20 gb of disk
[23:50] <maco> like maybe 25¢?
[23:50] <maco> it came out to $13 for like 7gb data usage
[23:50] <maco> erm including the $11/mo
[23:50] <maco> so only $2 of that was bandwidth
[23:50] <JontheEchidna> debfx: a patch by one developer, with a changelog entry by another, and signed by a third :P
[23:50] <nixternal> i am unlimited with my bandwidth and my storage is damn close to unlimited now
[23:51]  * nigelb should buy on rackspace when I get time
[23:51] <shtylman> linode!!
[23:51] <JontheEchidna> debfx: uploaded. thanks. (and to agateau too) ;)
[23:51] <Riddell> hum, who broke kubuntu.org?
[23:51] <debfx> JontheEchidna: mass review for a one-line patch :D
[23:51] <nigelb> shtylman: a bit too much for what I want
[23:51] <maco> Riddell: blame adam, thats what flatmates are for?
[23:52]  * nigelb wonders what broke
[23:54] <nixternal> heh, i wonder if go daddy is deleting the domain now that i complained :D