| thorwil | morning! | 08:16 |
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| thorwil | currently on http://www.ubuntu.com/community : Artwork: Put your creativity to work by improving the look and feel of Ubuntu. Help design themes, graphics or backgrounds for the next release. | 08:17 |
| thorwil | ouch | 08:17 |
| vish | thorwil: heh! exactly what i have copy pasted in my draft! | 08:18 |
| thorwil | vish: why? you must be aware of the not-the-defaults issue | 08:19 |
| thorwil | vish: so are you working https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityContributePages#Artists ? | 08:19 |
| vish | nope not going to do the wiki.. | 08:20 |
| vish | thorwil: nah , *i* am aware that not many get to work on defaults , but the link is misleading.. i'v been writing this mail and everytime its a tl;dr! trying to cut it down :s | 08:20 |
| vish | thorwil: but we can do some work on the default too! | 08:21 |
| thorwil | vish: we've been there. not making clear that it's damn unlikely creates false hopes. people then show bursts of activity and once they realize it won't happen, disappear | 08:22 |
| vish | ++ | 08:23 |
| vish | thorwil: one we need to be clear on what we can help.. i'm looking into places where people can help.. but i might have missed a few.. | 08:24 |
| thorwil | vish: really don't know where a photo for that Community thing should come from. what do you think, should i offer an illustration instead, of 3 monkeys throwing poop unto a canvas? ^^ | 08:25 |
| vish | thorwil: i'd say _do not_ fill that wiki until there is a better outline of what the team does.. lets not fool ourselves too ;) | 08:26 |
| thorwil | but maybe that would be too many monkeys | 08:26 |
| thorwil | vish: if you want an outline of what the team does, the answer is: "" | 08:27 |
| vish | thorwil: hence the do not fill :) | 08:27 |
| vish | pah! maybe i'll finally finish that mail! its been 2weeks , and every time i look at it for 5mins and get depressed ;p | 08:29 |
| thorwil | vish: pastebin it, so i can have a look | 08:29 |
| vish | thorwil: neat! | 08:29 |
| vish | thorwil: http://paste.ubuntu.com/493494/ | 08:31 |
| thorwil | vish: amazing how long it took to get to the content of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork and how utterly stupid the first bullet point is | 08:32 |
| vish | :) | 08:32 |
| thorwil | as if submiiting content to the wiki would be a valuable activity in itself | 08:33 |
| thorwil | vish: what's the name of our theme packager? | 08:38 |
| vish | thorwil: that draft is a mess , with links and stuff.. not properly formated.. but just a list .. | 08:38 |
| vish | thorwil: Andrew SB does a lot of the theme/icon packaging | 08:38 |
| thorwil | vish: i'm editing it nonetheless | 08:38 |
| vish | sure.. :) | 08:38 |
| thorwil | vish: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/ICX9F6sMA243Kt2RBwEF/ | 09:00 |
| vish | thorwil: hei! you removed the " all-wise thorwil " | 09:02 |
| * vish pouts! | 09:02 | |
| thorwil | vish: would be good to expand on what does work, describing the flickr pool and countdown banners and maybe spreadubuntu (as much as it does have quality issues) as successes | 09:02 |
| vish | yeah.. the spreadubuntu is in another mail draft! with just links, i'm collecting.. ; | 09:02 |
| thorwil | then one could add a look over the fence, how artwork/design happens in fedora and maybe opensuse | 09:03 |
| vish | yup.. the fedora.. gnome artrequest.. there are a lot of links.. but i dont want to become a lt;dr ;p | 09:04 |
| vish | trying to split it up into replies/followups | 09:04 |
| thorwil | vish: you know, i was kindly ask to tone down the negativity after a few of my welcome messages on the list | 09:05 |
| vish | thorwil: yeah.. hence the main need for the " all-wise thorwil " mention ;) | 09:05 |
| thorwil | vish: your tl;dr worries are linked to the lack of quality on the list ... think about it | 09:05 |
| vish | yeah.. i'm stuck inbetween yelling at the list and trying to motivate it into doing something ;p | 09:06 |
| thorwil | vish: your are no Ben, but i do think a little provocation is called for. hence explicitly proposing closure of list and team ;) | 09:08 |
| vish | thorwil: did Being Ben motivated anyone ? and i dont intend to be Ben either ;p .. | 09:08 |
| vish | motivate* | 09:08 |
| thorwil | vish: that's why i say a little provocation, as opposed to saying something dumb and provocative | 09:10 |
| vish | thorwil: exactly! people can try and be provocative.. but does that translate to action? its tough to get it right.. i'm gathering links to show how to be productive too .. :) | 09:10 |
| thorwil | vish: do you intent to mention Elementary, too? | 09:15 |
| vish | thorwil: in what sense? Elementary has a different purpose/intent | 09:16 |
| thorwil | not sure | 09:17 |
| * vish bbiab... | 09:18 | |
| thorwil | vish: maybe the list/team shouldn't be about starting anything, but rather be a place of contact for those who work on something related, anyway | 09:19 |
| thorwil | http://thorwil.wordpress.com/2010/09/14/ubuntu-countdown-10-10/ | 19:33 |
| vish | thorwil: typo "ans thus " > and | 19:57 |
| thorwil | vish: fixed, thanks! | 19:59 |
| vish | np.. | 19:59 |
| thorwil | vish: the funny thing about the first design is that i considered that concept in one of the earlier rounds. but i did not see a good solution on how to deal with the gaps and filling the dots, so i dropped it | 20:01 |
| vish | thorwil: heh, i had that idea too.. i think for last cycle! but i never got to try it :( | 20:03 |
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